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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by semid4lyfe(m): 11:36am On Sep 20, 2025
BlueRayDick:
I have just responded to this post in my last post before this one. I'm not talking about Nigerian politics in particular.

I know what propaganda is and I've know what it is not long time ago; long before I was even interested in Nigerian politics
Sometimes, what you think you know or have known all your life is wrong.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:42am On Sep 20, 2025
semid4lyfe:
Sometimes, what you think you know or have known all your life is wrong.
But I just showed u what the enyclopedia Britannica( the world oldest encyclopedia) defined as propaganda. And it aligns with what I've known propaganda to be all my life.

So is the encyclopedia wrong too?

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 12:36pm On Sep 20, 2025
Segedinho:
@ TemporaryHansel


I say make i update u
We'll find a way around it. Nothing is 100% full proof.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 12:39pm On Sep 20, 2025
semid4lyfe:
Actually, he's correct. Propaganda can either be positive or negative.
Do you believe government can say negative things about itself?

You seem to have a lot of faith in the Nigerian government, and I can't help but wonder why?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 12:47pm On Sep 20, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]I have heard a lot of stories of people abroad who go through loneliness. I really don't know how it works there.

I know universities are a bubbling space for relationships. I surprise say person dey lonely for there.[/color]
Lmao it's not as easy making friends.
Especially when you come around winter period.
Your loneliness go really slap anyhow.
Even with family sef, I realize something as basic as speaking pidgin English generally is greatly missed, that whenever I run into Nigerians, the joy in my heart is alot when we both speak pidgin.

That's just for pidgin oo.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 12:56pm On Sep 20, 2025
BlueRayDick:
What is positive propaganda?
We might be seeing the transition of semid to a full-blown cornvict.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 12:58pm On Sep 20, 2025
BlueRayDick:
This is not propaganda, it is a factual stament that smokers can die and knacking without protection can lead to HIV.

You need to check the meaning of propaganda first before u define positive propaganda
💯
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 12:59pm On Sep 20, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Okay

If the half truth is going to bring a positive change, can we call it "Positive propaganda?"

grin[/color]
Propaganda is propaganda.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 1:10pm On Sep 20, 2025
akwesenana:
grin grin
Lmao cheesy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by semid4lyfe(m):
BlueRayDick:
But I just showed u what the enyclopedia Britannica( the world oldest encyclopedia) defined as propaganda. And it aligns with what I've known propaganda to be all my life.

So is the encyclopedia wrong too?
Brittanica is not wrong. Na you no read well because you no wan unlearn to relearn. Others don talk am but make I try one last time.

Propaganda can either be negative or positive. It is the intended outcome/goal that categorizes the propaganda as negative or positive not the message itself or the tools used in disseminating the propaganda.

Example: The Ministry of Health launches a campaign that all male newborn should be circumcised to eliminate their risk of contracting HIV/AIDS.

We all know the above is exaggerated messaging and factually incorrect because circumcision DOES NOT ELIMINATE the risk of contracting the virus BUT because the practice reduces the risk of contracting STIs, UTIs, HIV and improves the general health of the populace, it will be categorized as Positive propaganda.

Deception, half-truths. lies may be deployed to push this kind of propaganda. What makes it positive is that the increased uptake of neonatal circumcision will reduce the rates of transmission of UTI, STIs, HIV and ultimately save lives. What makes it propaganda is the exaggeration, being economical with the truth, hiding facts and not being factually accurate to get behaviour change.

I hope you get it now cos I don tire to dey type.

I rest my fingers.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Sportsweb: 1:14pm On Sep 20, 2025
BlueRayDick:
The bold was why I was just laughing at our resident self processed Russian-cum-Palestinian advocate when he was talking about October 7 not being the start of the whole crisis but 56 years ago.

He deliberately chose 56 years ago that was convinient for him but forgot the Palestinians and their Arab brothers plotted together to filwipe off the Jews as far back as 1948 in opposition to the state of Israel and state of Palestine existing side by side as separate individual nations.

They chose war and lost woefully against Israel along with their other Arab brothers. The two state solution they now crave for was offered to them on a platter by the UN and the majority rest of the world but they chose to fight a war that didn't end well for them but somehow they expect the Victor in the war to loose guard for them.

No be juju be that?
You Don't Know What You Have Until You Lose it.

They are now begging for two state solution and Israel doesn't want to give it to them either.

Who knows, Palestine would have been a super power in middle East, probably more richer and stronger than Israel today if they had choosed the path of PEACE back then
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:44pm On Sep 20, 2025
semid4lyfe:
Brittanica is not wrong. Na you no read well because you no wan unlearn to relearn. Others don talk am but make I try one last time.

Propaganda can either be negative or positive. It is the intended outcome/goal that categorizes the propaganda as negative or positive not the message itself or the tools used in disseminating the propaganda.

Example: The Ministry of Health launches a campaign that all make newborn should be circumcised to eliminate their risk of contracting HIV/AIDS.

We all know the above is exaggerated messaging and factually incorrect because circumcision DOES NOT ELIMINATE the risk of contracting the virus BUT because the practice reduces the risk of contracting STIs, UTIs, HIV and improves the general health of the populace, it will be categorized as Positive propaganda.

Deception, half-truths. lies may be deployed to push this kind of propaganda. What makes it positive is that the increased uptake of neonatal circumcision will reduce the rates of transmission of UTI, STIs, HIV and ultimately save lives. What makes it propaganda is the tactic of exaggerating, being economical with the truth, hiding facts and not being factually accurate to get behavior change.

I hope you get it now cos I don tire to dey type.

I rest my fingers.
This thing wey u talk say " Na you no read well"? , I do not agree with it because what other meaning is there to read to the clear definition the Britannica gave?

I believe if we are talking about unlearning and relearning, then we should be focusing on how Britannica explained propaganda (not positive or negative propaganda) as " dissemination of information- facts, arguments, rumours, half-truths, or lies- to influence public opinion. It is often conveyed through mass media."

And also " Propaganda being more or less systematic effort to manipulate other people's beliefs, attitudes, or actions by means of symbols (words, gestures, banners, monuments, music, clothing, insignia, hairstyles, designs on coins and postage stamps, and so forth).

They still further explained that propaganda is different from casual conversation that is laden with facts in the sense that

Deliberateness and a relatively heavy emphasis on manipulation distinguish propaganda from casual conversation or the free and easy exchange of ideas.

I didn't write any of those, but you said I didn't read it well. What other meaning do these words convey in English abeg?

And please give me an example of what you feel positive propaganda will be as regards current governance/politics in Nigeria
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by semid4lyfe(m): 1:47pm On Sep 20, 2025
TemporaryHansel:
Do you believe government can say negative things about itself?

You seem to have a lot of faith in the Nigerian government, and I can't help but wonder why?
Baba, wetin I dey tackle BRD on na the meaning of the word propaganda. BlueRay opines it has a negative connotation while I think it has a dual meaning. Na strictly english matter we dey discuss. No politicize the matter.

.....And FYI, I don't have faith in any Nigerian government or politician.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:53pm On Sep 20, 2025
semid4lyfe:
Baba, wetin I dey tackle BRD on na the meaning of the word propaganda. BlueRay opines it has a negative connotation while I think it has a dual meaning. Na strictly english matter we dey discuss. No politicize the matter.

.....And FYI, I don't have faith in any Nigerian government or politician.
It's not my opinion that propaganda has a negative connotation, the Britannica definition was straight and simple on what propaganda is.

There's a reason why propaganda is different from facts na. At least we both agree facts (justified truth) and propaganda are not the same thing.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by PDPGuy: 3:01pm On Sep 20, 2025
BREAKING

Air Peace will construct a 32 billion Naira MRO facility at the MMIA, and will be completed by December 2026..

The MRO will be the second of its kind in Nigeria, following the establishment of a similar facility on the grounds of the Uyo international airport.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:06pm On Sep 20, 2025
izzou:
https://www.nairaland.com/8522926/man-reportedly-beaten-death-three

[color=royalblue]Man beaten to death by his 3 wives.

It doesn't get better. It happened in Otuocha

Rumdeuter, come and remind us of the benefits of polygamy, in 20 words.[/color]
Polygamy is not for weak men

Men practicing monogamy regularly get stabbed by their wives as well

Na you open eye go marry agaracha
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:08pm On Sep 20, 2025
iamoyindamola:
🤣🤣🤣
They were united for once
Na useless thing you dey unite for

All those Sisters at Nasfat need some soDICK loving

Instead of having them as sidechics then wife them
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by sleekdot(m): 3:19pm On Sep 20, 2025
BlueRayDick:
But I just showed u what the enyclopedia Britannica( the world oldest encyclopedia) defined as propaganda. And it aligns with what I've known propaganda to be all my life.

So is the encyclopedia wrong too?
Do you think what govt did during pandemic when they deployed some half truths to protect public health count as positive propaganda

Almost every policy can be spun positive or negative. It depends on how its done
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by sleekdot(m): 3:20pm On Sep 20, 2025
GloriousGbola:
the orgy he got vs the orgy he was told he would get
Egbon we can find you a God-fearing GenZ baddie from a good family. They are plenty out there looking for responsible men
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by sleekdot(m): 3:31pm On Sep 20, 2025
Trevor012:
Is the university system in America different from the one in Nigeria because I don't understand how you will be a student in a university setting and not have friends to hang around with unless it's by choice.
There are cultural differences. Abroad most people keep to themselves. You might have a neighbor and barely speak to each other. You have to make yourself almost a nuisance to get new engagement

With technology and phones your best friend might even be across the world so no too much need to engage snobby people. There are even some families that the kids and parents inside the same house only talk to themselves through WhatsApp or SM

Even if we check here. Some of us are more familiar. I can jump on your post and insult you or engage with no hard feelings a new poster who isnt very bold might feel left out and just keep to themselves

Also as a student most people have the cliques and different struggles. When I was in school the Indian clique be like cult. They always get the right study materials, the Teaching assistants who are usually Indians too go don give them pointers on where to study. They know every. I had to forcefully go toast an Indian babe before she begin cut soap for me. Did same with the Chinese cliques too

Also our struggles are different. We will be thinking of where to find side job after classes dem dey hang out for bars and club after hours to bond

You find out that after leaving class as strangers today tomorrow some are best friends cos of hanging out while we wey don go find work are still strangers
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 3:34pm On Sep 20, 2025
sleekdot:
There are cultural differences. Abroad most people keep to themselves. You might have a neighbor and barely speak to each other. You have to make yourself almost a nuisance to get new engagement

With technology and phones your best friend might even be across the world so no too much need to engage snobby people

Even if we check here. Some of us are more familiar. I can jump on your post and insult you or engage with no hard feelings a new poster who isnt very bold might feel left out and just keep to themselves

Also as a student most people have the cliques. When I was in school the Indian clique be like cult. They always get the right study materials, the Teaching assistants who are usually Indians too go don give them pointers on where to study. They know every. I had to forcefully go toast an Indian babe before she begin cut soap for me. Did same with the Chinese cliques too

Also our struggles are different. We will be thinking of where to find side job after classes dem dey hang out for bars and club after hours to bond

You find out that after leaving class as strangers today tomorrow some are best friends cos of hanging out while we wey don go find work are still strangers
'Forcefully' cheesy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:46pm On Sep 20, 2025
GloriousGbola:
'Forcefully' cheesy
I think Asian women are naturally shy when it comes to foreigners so you need more persistence to get through with them even if you know they might not marry you cos of cultural restrictions

And when I saw that the guys were not giving updates and giving me stories like just study harder, I was just lucky etc. I knew there was a racket underground just that I didnt have access.

Romance is a good way to break into those circles like police use women to break into cartels
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 3:54pm On Sep 20, 2025
raumdeuter:
I think Asian women are naturally shy when it comes to foreigners so you need more persistence to get through with them even if you know they might not marry you cos of cultural restrictions

And when I saw that the guys were not giving updates and giving me stories like just study harder, I was just lucky etc. I knew there was a racket underground just that I didnt have access.

Romance is a good way to break into those circles like police use women to break into cartels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsWZTsaGFdE?si=GVGg6vU7kj7WkEsX
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 4:08pm On Sep 20, 2025
semid4lyfe:
Baba, wetin I dey tackle BRD on na the meaning of the word propaganda. BlueRay opines it has a negative connotation while I think it has a dual meaning. Na strictly english matter we dey discuss. No politicize the matter.

.....And FYI, I don't have faith in any Nigerian government or politician.
Tunde Onakoya also started with a denial.

I'll be there. cheesy grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 4:11pm On Sep 20, 2025
sleekdot:
There are cultural differences. Abroad most people keep to themselves. You might have a neighbor and barely speak to each other. You have to make yourself almost a nuisance to get new engagement

With technology and phones your best friend might even be across the world so no too much need to engage snobby people. There are even some families that the kids and parents inside the same house only talk to themselves through WhatsApp or SM

Even if we check here. Some of us are more familiar. I can jump on your post and insult you or engage with no hard feelings a new poster who isnt very bold might feel left out and just keep to themselves

Also as a student most people have the cliques and different struggles. When I was in school the Indian clique be like cult. They always get the right study materials, the Teaching assistants who are usually Indians too go don give them pointers on where to study. They know every. I had to forcefully go toast an Indian babe before she begin cut soap for me. Did same with the Chinese cliques too

Also our struggles are different. We will be thinking of where to find side job after classes dem dey hang out for bars and club after hours to bond

You find out that after leaving class as strangers today tomorrow some are best friends cos of hanging out while we wey don go find work are still strangers
You just had to make us know this. OG. grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 4:17pm On Sep 20, 2025
Temporary Hansel wetin your babe dey try do so?

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nazgul: 4:18pm On Sep 20, 2025
GloriousGbola:
'Forcefully' cheesy
Hello chief, I heard that Tinubu's January 2026 tax implementation would affect only those operating naira accounts not dollar account holders.

Cos someone was telling me that they can't tax you in dollar cos that would be robbery. You would only be taxed when you move it to your naira account.

Please how true is this?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:22pm On Sep 20, 2025
Nazgul:
Hello chief, I heard that Tinubu's January 2026 tax implementation would affect only those operating naira accounts not dollar account holders.

Cos someone was telling me that they can't tax you in dollar cos that would be robbery. You would only be taxed when you move it to your naira account.

Please how true is this?
I have not followed up on this but my personal opinion - one way or another every Nigerian in Nigeria earning money is going to be taxed
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 4:23pm On Sep 20, 2025
When you want to collect tax, you cight example with countries like U.S and the U.K

When we ask you for what the U.S. and U.K. provide for their citizens, you say we don't understand the system of government .

Raumdeuter why?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 4:45pm On Sep 20, 2025
Sowore should be careful in his utterances and exposes against Wike sha

Wike is not your typical politician. Wike go kpai you
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nazgul: 4:46pm On Sep 20, 2025
GloriousGbola:
I have not followed up on this but my personal opinion - one way or another every Nigerian in Nigeria earning money is going to be taxed
Na wa o.
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