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Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by delkuf(m): 10:08pm On Sep 22, 2025
nairalanda1:
Doubt you are ignoring me, my fine fellow wink

Nigeria must fight corruption, but we got to industrialize. You cannot get UK level of say healthcare when UK is spending 175 bn pounds for health and Nigeria is spending less than 1.5 billion

The corruption in Nigeria makes things worse, which is why it has to go.

But you just want to call me an oppressor so you miss the points i make

Have a great dY grin. I still won't vote for your party or apc till they have diversification and industrialization on the manifesto
the point you make is that you want Nigerian to accept the new tax while turning a blind eye on the corruption and lack of transparency of the govt
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by delkuf(m): 10:13pm On Sep 22, 2025
lawani:
It is a leadership problem. There is no voluntary tax payment anywhere. Lagos did not seek anybody's permission before weaning themselves off allocations. They collect over 40 billion naira every month. If I am a Governor no one can stop me from taking tax. I can't have millions of income earners in my state and be waiting cap in hand for allocations.
the 40 billion Lagos is collecting from the few that pays what are doing with it. Are they transparent with it.

You are not transparent with 40 billion and you want to collect 400 billion.
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by delkuf(m): 10:18pm On Sep 22, 2025
lawani:
The private sector will have to be involved in solving power. To have 50000 MW like South Africa there will need to be an investment of up to 50 billion dollars and we are more than four times the population of South Africa. Therefore we need 200 billion dollars for the same level of power. Even more than and government budget is not more than thirty billion dollars. State governments have been given the go ahead to seek partners and solve the problem but they are taking baby steps. The market is there that will pay for the power but here we are. However people are solving power issues by going off grid. Off grid power now will be much more than grid power
am not talking about the private sector, am talking about the govt. What has tinubu be doing with all the billion he has been collecting from the subsidy removal and vat. He has been buying yacht and cars.
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by delkuf(m): 10:23pm On Sep 22, 2025
nairalanda1:
Nigeria must industrialize

I'm afraid you still think i support corruption. That is sad.

Again Nigeria must fight corruption and industrialize

I have the right not to make you happy cheesy
the guy have tell you tgat the government should first be held accountable on corruption and you are talking of industrialization. A country with the level of corruption of Nigeria cannot become industrialize.
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by lawani(m): 10:29pm On Sep 22, 2025
delkuf:
am not talking about the private sector, am talking about the govt. What has tinubu be doing with all the billion he has been collecting from the subsidy removal and vat. He has been buying yacht and cars.
I am not here to defend Tinubu. I am not his supporter but to be an advanced country enjoying universal healthcare, free education and etc you must be ready to give up half of your GDP as taxes
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by delkuf(m): 10:36pm On Sep 22, 2025
lawani:
I am not here to defend Tinubu. I am not his supporter but to be an advanced country enjoying universal healthcare, free education and etc you must be ready to give up half of your GDP as taxes
i dont think you are living in Nigeria. Because if you do, you will see how this squeezing from the poor Nigeria and living lavishly.
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by femi4: 10:45pm On Sep 22, 2025
RollinTNDA:
You are enjoying a system in UK

Ask yourself
What sacrifice did the fore fathers of UK fought. The countless wars they fought, the blood they shed fighting against evil kings. ...

And removing evil kings inorder for their young future generation to have good society.

These same white people suffered bad government with corruption and injustice.

Instead of them to Japa.
They stood together and fought and changed their country for good.

Now you Japa your own country to go and chill in another man country. To enjoy the fruits of their ancestors blood and sweat.

There Ancestors are smiling from the grave seeing their sacrifice didn't go in vain for their future generations.

While Nigeria keeps rotting away
Who will save Nigeria??
We learn from the experience of others..we ain't supposed to spend yrs in the wilderness if we know what we are doing
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by lawani(m): 10:53pm On Sep 22, 2025
delkuf:
i dont think you are living in Nigeria. Because if you do, you will see how this squeezing from the poor Nigeria and living lavishly.
So all governors are living lavishly? Why can't Kano secure a revenue of 10 billion dollars per annum and use part of it to solve Nigeria's steel problem? That is just 500 dollars per head per annum. I live in Nigeria
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by 66uvie: 11:01pm On Sep 22, 2025
Abdul05:
Na only nigeria You pay tax and still go Contribute money for transformer Wey no go work.. grin


Bro, suffering dey naija.. grin
.... what about the meter wey them go take bill you...
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by Tochi360: 11:57pm On Sep 22, 2025
Abdul05:
Na only nigeria You pay tax and still go Contribute money for transformer Wey no go work.. grin


Bro, suffering dey naija.. grin
Only in Nigeria you will use your hand and vote for people with drug case, school scam case, education fraud, bullion van fraud and yet begin dey call God for help grin😁😁.

Them born Nija born mumulity and suffer cheesy.

Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by isyourboy(m): 1:26am On Sep 23, 2025
Abdul05:
Na only nigeria You pay tax and still go Contribute money for transformer Wey no go work.. grin


Bro, suffering dey naija.. grin
Wait, people pay taxes in Nigeria?
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by nairalanda1(m): 2:30am On Sep 23, 2025
delkuf:
the guy have tell you tgat the government should first be held accountable on corruption and you are talking of industrialization. A country with the level of corruption of Nigeria cannot become industrialize.
And you guys know i have spoken many times against corruption. But many of you prefer to misread me.
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by nairalanda1(m): 2:31am On Sep 23, 2025
delkuf:
the point you make is that you want Nigerian to accept the new tax while turning a blind eye on the corruption and lack of transparency of the govt
Nope. Don't misinterprete me.

Even if we fight corruption and we should, we still.dont have enough cash

At the end, we got to industrialize. And fight corruption

Better read me properly
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by nairalanda1(m): 2:33am On Sep 23, 2025
delkuf:
must the govt be held accountable before they can give us basic things. Must we protest before do what is right.
So after fighting corruption, which i have never opposed, it is you who think i excuse it, we still have the issue of a very low budget of 30 trillion for 240 million people?

Okay.
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by nairalanda1(m): 2:41am On Sep 23, 2025
delkuf:
the guy have tell you tgat the government should first be held accountable on corruption and you are talking of industrialization. A country with the level of corruption of Nigeria cannot become industrialize.
Hey Nigerians!

My support for taxes on those who do not pay taxes and industrialization does not mean i don't support war against corruption

The more people who pay taxes and the more industrialized we become, the less easy it becomes to be corrupt. Because corruption under these circumstances will anger a lot of people and cause severe revolution. So any leader better not be corrupt at all.

Corruption is fuelled today because we run a resource dependent economy. Since most government money is from oil , they don't feel obligated to be our servants, so them apc politicans steal. As did their predecessors.

If most revenue from government comes from the people, any stealing is going to be met with riots and protests. And they the leaders know this. Also corruption will harm an industrial economy, so them leaders would be scared to wreck it.

I hope you people can see my point now. If you can't , sorry

And yes we can fight corruption now. But most of you on both sides , tinubu and obi and atiku are only interested in using corruption as a stick to beat each other with. That's why we will never see an end to it. You Nigerians really love your corruption. And it is sad
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by tachhub: 3:36am On Sep 23, 2025
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by Gerrard59(m): 3:44am On Sep 23, 2025
lawani:
Corporate tax is different from personal income tax. Personal income tax is where the bulk of tax revenue resides. If you employ you must pay minimum wage to yourself and employee and if you can't you will be shut down. It is corporate tax that can be dodged not tax on wages and if you are caught dodging corporate tax too ..
What if the employer does not pay a salary to himself or pays just the minimum wage?

That is tax avoidance rather than evasion.
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by descarado: 5:18am On Sep 23, 2025
nairalanda1:
Yes because especially on water and electricity, most of you don't pay the amount needed to guarantee not paying for your transformer or building borehole

In the UK, most people pay their electricity bills and water bills at rates that if they were to charge it here and force most people to pay it , there will be riots

We are not a rich country like Saudi.
Household stop lying. My house in abuja is in an area where every house owner pays tax. Yes, an exclusive zone but we did the road,bought 2 transformers, service it to date, employ our own security, and before Nigerians started band A to Z, our electricity band is A. In the whole abuja, we are billed more than the rest cos we hardly have power outage. What has the govt done for us?
Oh, every house has borehole.

People living there has the money to pay for govt to do their job but govt will take the money and go away so like I said,stop lying.

As I am out of Nigeria,I still pay for all those things.

Imagine comparing Naija taxation with UK.
What an insult on Nigerians.
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by nairalanda1(m): 6:40am On Sep 23, 2025
descarado:
Household stop lying. My house in abuja is in an area where every house owner pays tax. Yes, an exclusive zone but we did the road,bought 2 transformers, service it to date, employ our own security, and before Nigerians started band A to Z, our electricity band is A. In the whole abuja, we are billed more than the rest cos we hardly have power outage. What has the govt done for us?
Oh, every house has borehole.

People living there has the money to pay for govt to do their job but govt will take the money and go away so like I said,stop lying.

As I am out of Nigeria,I still pay for all those things.

Imagine comparing Naija taxation with UK.
What an insult on Nigerians.
Okay, enjoy your bad service. As you say, we are too poor to afford better

Also you are representative of all Nigeria. Every Nigerian is like you and earns the same amount you do. cheesy
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by Ade3131: 7:08am On Sep 23, 2025
lawani:
I don't support the sales tax on petrol. It is the states that should buckle up on income tax. Then minimum wage should be high enough to bear tax and it should be enforced on all employers. The money should be used for free healthcare education and etc. If a country will move forward half of the GDP must be taken as taxes. No income should be tax free. How do you help the common people if they don't pay tax?
I suspect this is a response that's drafted by an AI. Substantiate your argument and tell us how money from subsidy removal has improved the lives of Nigerians.

Show us what's on ground from subsidy so that we can be convinced that more will come our way from paying taxes.
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by descarado: 8:15am On Sep 23, 2025
nairalanda1:
Okay, enjoy your bad service. As you say, we are too poor to afford better

Also you are representative of all Nigeria. Every Nigerian is like you and earns the same amount you do. cheesy
Seems you have nothing to say.
I can comfortably tell you so many places in Nigerian states where people are paying to their teeth for all these yet, money disappears without trace or action.

Even the poor is ready to pay if he sees where the money is going into.
Some Nigerians even construct roads.
Thats how irresponsible Nigerian political space is.
So shut it whe n you know nothing and obviously pay nothing. Let those who pay for services they dont see lament.
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by nairalanda1(m): 8:19am On Sep 23, 2025
descarado:
Seems you have nothing to say.
I can comfortably tell you so many places in Nigerian states where people are paying to their teeth for all these yet, money disappears without trace or action.

Even the poor is ready to pay if he sees where the money is going into.
Some Nigerians even construct roads.
Thats how irresponsible Nigerian political space is.
So shut it whe n you know nothing and obviously pay nothing. Let those who pay for services they dont see lament.
I'm just being honest. If you want good service, you pay well.

It's not a message I like, but it is the truth. Your commentary here, won't change that fact.

You can join a party and change things from within. Maybe I will vote for you. I'm tired of our politicans.
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by descarado: 8:26am On Sep 23, 2025
nairalanda1:
I'm just being honest. If you want good service, you pay well.

It's not a message I like, but it is the truth. Your commentary here, won't change that fact.

You can join a party and change things from within. Maybe I will vote for you. I'm tired of our politicans.
So those who have been paying well, where is the good service?

Its practically non existing in Nigeria.

There was a small dent on one elderly lady's car one day and she sued the council for not fixing it on time. She won.
There is corruption all over the world but the type we have in Nigeria makes people weep bloody tears.
Its not hidden anymore. We celebrate it
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by nairalanda1(m): 8:29am On Sep 23, 2025
descarado:
So those who have been paying well, where is the good service?

Its practically non existing in Nigeria.

There was a small dent on one elderly lady's car one day and she sued the council for not fixing it on time. She won.
There is corruption all over the world but the type we have in Nigeria makes people weep bloody tears.
Its not hidden anymore. We celebrate it
Well,

1. 70% Of Nigerians do not pay taxes

2. Most of healthcare and electricity is subsidised which is why there are not profitable

3.Our budget before corruption is 30 trillion. For 230 bn people. That is not enough

4.80 % Of our revenue comes from oil that can only sustain a nation of 2 million people. We have no productive industires, and no diversified economy, especially as regards our agric and minerals.

If you read my posts, you will see I am angry with the government for not making more money, not just corruption. But you have assumed I support tinubu and am oppresor, so good morning, and good luck.
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by lawani(m): 8:59am On Sep 23, 2025
[quote author=Gerrard59 post=13688What if the employer does not pay a salary to himself or pays just the minimum wage?

That is tax avoidance rather than evasion.[/quote]Laws can be made to take care of all that. CEOs paying themselves one dollar per annum should be illegal
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by delkuf(m): 9:13am On Sep 23, 2025
nairalanda1:
So after fighting corruption, which i have never opposed, it is you who think i excuse it, we still have the issue of a very low budget of 30 trillion for 240 million people?

Okay.
I don't care about low budget. Even if we have a budget of 1 billions dollars with the corruption of Nigeria, there will be no effect of that money on the ordinary citizens.

Lets deal with corruption head on. Look at what happened in Nepal. Now that they have dealt with there corrupt leaders, they can now start talking about industrialization
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by delkuf(m): 9:23am On Sep 23, 2025
nairalanda1:
Nope. Don't misinterprete me.

Even if we fight corruption and we should, we still.dont have enough cash

At the end, we got to industrialize. And fight corruption

Better read me properly
if we fight corruption there will be enough cash. What is the corruption we are talking about here is it not the misappropriation of fund by this govt. If we can fight corruption there will enough cash.

You saying there is no enough cash and this govt is using over 300 billion to do 1577 street light. That means one street light is done by over 200 million naira. Just one street light. And you are saying there is no cash.


Guy don't just say anything again. You are one of them
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by nairalanda1(m): 9:43am On Sep 23, 2025
delkuf:
if we fight corruption there will be enough cash. What is the corruption we are talking about here is it not the misappropriation of fund by this govt. If we can fight corruption there will enough cash.

You saying there is no enough cash and this govt is using over 300 billion to do 1577 street light. That means one street light is done by over 200 million naira. Just one street light. And you are saying there is no cash.


Guy don't just say anything again. You are one of them
So, 30 trillion is enough for 240 million people.

Oga, either you are supporting tinubu, or you are just joking.

Tinubu is a bad leader because we should have a budget of 100 trillion or more...not just 30 trillion
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by nairalanda1(m): 9:44am On Sep 23, 2025
delkuf:
I don't care about low budget. Even if we have a budget of 1 billions dollars with the corruption of Nigeria, there will be no effect of that money on the ordinary citizens.

Lets deal with corruption head on. Look at what happened in Nepal. Now that they have dealt with there corrupt leaders, they can now start talking about industrialization
LIke you think I support corruption

Good morning. After I have shouted many times i don;t

Not everyone who disagrees with you is pro-corruption cheesy
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by Mrpin111: 10:07am On Sep 23, 2025
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Sirmwill:
There's no difference

Anyone who actually has sense would notice
Only in Nigeria u will see someone making these types of comments.
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by CorrectionFLuid: 10:37am On Sep 23, 2025
nairalanda1:
Doubt you are ignoring me, my fine fellow wink

Nigeria must fight corruption, but we got to industrialize. You cannot get UK level of say healthcare when UK is spending 175 bn pounds for health and Nigeria is spending less than 1.5 billion

The corruption in Nigeria makes things worse, which is why it has to go.

But you just want to call me an oppressor so you miss the points i make

Have a great dY grin. I still won't vote for your party or apc till they have diversification and industrialization on the manifesto
You just tire pesin embarassed
Re: UK Based Nigerian Explains Why He Prefers Paying Taxes In UK by lawani(m): 10:41am On Sep 23, 2025
nairalanda1:
So, 30 trillion is enough for 240 million people.

Oga, either you are supporting tinubu, or you are just joking.

Tinubu is a bad leader because we should have a budget of 100 trillion or more...not just 30 trillion
Money can only come mainly from personal income tax now and the federal government is not in charge of that.
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