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Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by gozmok1(m): 2:20pm On Sep 23, 2025
BlackViper:
ria still has a long way to go to fulfil its tax revenue potential, but it has started the long walk there.

https://techcabal.com/2025/09/22/nigeria-tax-reform-vs-kenya-model/
Tinubu removed petrol subsidy which led to increase in transportation cost and virtually every other thing in Nigeria by x10.

Removed subsidy on tertiary education tuition fee for Nigerian students which led to increase in university school fees and he cunningly brought student loan, loan not grant.

Tinubu brought Telecom tax, this pushed data price up.

He still went ahead to tax 50 naira for any transactions of 10,000 naira and above

Tinubu devalued Naira and unified our exchange rate which jerked exchange rate up and led to increase in commodity prices in Nigeria.

Tinibu increased the of clearing of goods 6 times in less than 3years in office, upto 800%

Tinubu removed subsidy on electricity tariffs and introduced band A, band B, C billing system which led to increase in electricity bill by x10

Tinubu is introducing new tax law that will force many struggling businesses to start paying huge tax from 2026.

Tinubu introduced new vehicle ownership style whereby every owner of vehicle in Nigeria now pay to FG every year to renew the ownership of their car. So every year you pay Tinubu to verify that your car is still your car not that you sold the car to a new owner.

Braze up for patrol tax from next year you pay 45naira for every 1 liter of fuel you buy 😭😭

Tinubu is now introducing house insurance which will cause annual rent in Nigeria to increase by x2 so that people paying NGN2 million per flat in a year will now pay NGN3.5million to NGN4million once he implements the housing insurance policy and Una say this man called Tinubu should not be impeached before 2027?

Nigerians continue playing na my tribes man, e go soon clear for una eyes shocked

May the supporters of this inhumanity never end well, may the cry of poor Nigerians reach God's heart 😭😭
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by nairalanda1(m): 2:24pm On Sep 23, 2025
This post shows Nigerians do not understand why they are poor and broke.

Two common misconceptions on this site

1.That income from less than 2 million barrels of crude oil per day can feed 230 million people

2.That a country does not need any form of taxes to go

3.That if we fight corruption, (a sentiment i agree with, we got to fight corruption)...somehow the income from 2 million bpd will be enough.

I mean, we are producing 1.7 m bpd on a good day, and that can feed a nation of just 2 million.

It's the flawed assumptions above that make talking and even discussing economics difficult. Everyone wants to talk about corruption as if ending it is the be all that ends all. Meanwhile, raising the point that the government is not making enough income, and that the vast majority of nigerians do not pay federal or state tax means you are agbado.(PwC and the world bank have proven through reports that Nigerians don't pay tax)

Nigerians also tend to wear distrust of the government as a badge of honor (unless their side is in power, then any issue is whoever is in oppositon fault...see how tinubuites are blaming obi and the north for issues right now). Yes, we should not trust the government, but the second step...holding government to account. It all starts and ends on this site. Not one nairalander is willing to join a party, form a party, form a pressure group, even form a club that would ask for the LG chairman to renovate the road in their area. Na to come and say whoever is in power is corrupt...as if that changes anything. We have been shouting Z and Y are corrupt since 1999....and nothing has changed because people are not willing to change.

I mean, I have not voted for pdp or apc since 2003. But trying to tell Nigerians to look at other parties brings mockery. Where is change going to come from

But I digress

Nigeria today has a very poor budget income. Oil prices have not been good to us, to the point our budget is running at a loss. All true...and the corruption makes things worse. But even if we have a revolution tomorrow, and jail tinubu and company and even jail all our past leaders...we would still be faced with 80% of income coming from less than 2 m bpd which as i have said can only feed 1-2 million people. How do we increase the money

That is the question I ask our government...how do we increase our money making capacity.

But asking the question makes many people angry. Its understandable...most of us are poor and broke. Hell, I know it well. I live here. But then you have people shouting saner climes, and expecting the same kind of health care, for example as the UK which spends up to six times our naitonal budget on healthcare alone. If not more.

Apparently saying that tinubu has failed in raising extra money, in doing the best to diversify the economy, and in taking nigeria off oil...a view I have held since 2011...with the GEJ govt, then the buhari government, and this one...and all our past governments...means I am a tinubu supporter.

Yes saying tinubu has failed means you support him.

It's time to heed some advice i got in 2021. Then again....


I would have left some articles here, but Matthew 7 vs 6-7 applies.

Good night.
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by ariesbull: 2:25pm On Sep 23, 2025
These crop of politicians are tax collectors .... They will start taxing the air we breathe soon ! Yet we still have natural resources
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by mrvitalis(m): 2:32pm On Sep 23, 2025
BlackViper:
ria still has a long way to go to fulfil its tax revenue potential, but it has started the long walk there.

https://techcabal.com/2025/09/22/nigeria-tax-reform-vs-kenya-model/
Bros 90% of Nigerians won't qualify to pay that in Kenya

you need to be making over 3 million naira before u are to pay taxes in Kenya
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by CodeTemplarr: 2:33pm On Sep 23, 2025
helinues:
You can't run any business in Kenya without paying tax.

If you are running foods and drugs business, it's not even about the tax but scrutinizing before approval.

When we said things are just too easy in Nigeria, some people dont understand
how on earth did 52 people like such comment?
Seem these guys are already arming themselves ahead of 2027 propaganda. Wooooow. Woooooow
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by Gboom: 2:35pm On Sep 23, 2025
SmartPolician:
These APC people are coming up with a lot of BS to justify overtaxing Nigerians.

If the government wants to truly increase Nigeria's revenue though taxation, they should automate the process and compel all companies to pay taxes digitally.

Stop the analogue collection of taxes. Your workers are steàling the taxes.
What do mean by paying digitally?
What is the role of TIN if it is not automating the process?
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by CodeTemplarr: 2:38pm On Sep 23, 2025
nairalanda1:
This post shows Nigerians do not understand why they are poor and broke.

Two common misconceptions on this site

1.That income from less than 2 million barrels of crude oil per day can feed 230 million people

2.That a country does not need any form of taxes to go

3.That if we fight corruption, (a sentiment i agree with, we got to fight corruption)...somehow the income from 2 million bpd will be enough.

I mean, we are producing 1.7 m bpd on a good day, and that can feed a nation of just 2 million.

It's the flawed assumptions above that make talking and even discussing economics difficult. Everyone wants to talk about corruption as if ending it is the be all that ends all. Meanwhile, raising the point that the government is not making enough income, and that the vast majority of nigerians do not pay federal or state tax means you are agbado.(PwC and the world bank have proven through reports that Nigerians don't pay tax)

Nigerians also tend to wear distrust of the government as a badge of honor (unless their side is in power, then any issue is whoever is in oppositon fault...see how tinubuites are blaming obi and the north for issues right now). Yes, we should not trust the government, but the second step...holding government to account. It all starts and ends on this site. Not one nairalander is willing to join a party, form a party, form a pressure group, even form a club that would ask for the LG chairman to renovate the road in their area. Na to come and say whoever is in power is corrupt...as if that changes anything. We have been shouting Z and Y are corrupt since 1999....and nothing has changed because people are not willing to change.

I mean, I have not voted for pdp or apc since 2003. But trying to tell Nigerians to look at other parties brings mockery. Where is change going to come from

But I digress

Nigeria today has a very poor budget income. Oil prices have not been good to us, to the point our budget is running at a loss. All true...and the corruption makes things worse. But even if we have a revolution tomorrow, and jail tinubu and company and even jail all our past leaders...we would still be faced with 80% of income coming from less than 2 m bpd which as i have said can only feed 1-2 million people. How do we increase the money

That is the question I ask our government...how do we increase our money making capacity.

But asking the question makes many people angry. Its understandable...most of us are poor and broke. Hell, I know it well. I live here. But then you have people shouting saner climes, and expecting the same kind of health care, for example as the UK which spends up to six times our naitonal budget on healthcare alone. If not more.

Apparently saying that tinubu has failed in raising extra money, in doing the best to diversify the economy, and in taking nigeria off oil...a view I have held since 2011...with the GEJ govt, then the buhari government, and this one...and all our past governments...means I am a tinubu supporter.

Yes saying tinubu has failed means you support him.

It's time to heed some advice i got in 2021. Then again....


I would have left some articles here, but Matthew 7 vs 6-7 applies.

Good night.
Before crude was discovered, what did your fathers and mothers eat to have you?
Now if you agree they ate something without crude oil, and that crude oil funds is as good as tax in the hands of the leaders, tell me why should i submit my sweat to people who prioritize wastage and hajj or extremely useless projects to continue the charade so easily? Why?
It is clear who you work for. I know spambot is not intelligent nough to disvern that.
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by anonimi: 2:39pm On Sep 23, 2025
BlackViper:
ria still has a long way to go to fulfil its tax revenue potential, but it has started the long walk there.

https://techcabal.com/2025/09/22/nigeria-tax-reform-vs-kenya-model/
Why pay taxes and fuel subsidies to government, so they can get more luxury for themselves while we groan in extreme poverty shege?

Why should 200 million people subsidise the massive corruption of Oshiomhole’s Assembly of Past Criminals, APC?

How wise is that huh

chisomkachy:
Nigerian President Bola Tinubu’s first supplementary budget includes a fleet of SUVs for himself and his wife, a presidential yacht and the renovation of his villa amid a cost-of-living crisis for some of the poorest people in the world.

The proposal — which seeks additional funding beyond the annual budget approved by Tinubu’s predecessor — comes as the government asks Nigerians to persevere through pain caused in part by a raft of economic reforms ushered in by the new president. Africa’s most populous country faces rampant unemployment, soaring food prices and a plummeting currency.

Federal lawmakers approved the president’s request for extra spending on Thursday, but eliminated the provision of 5 billion naira ($6.01 million) to buy a presidential yacht. Instead, they doubled the allocation to a student loan fund to 10 billion naira, according Abubakar Bichi, chairman of an appropriations committee in the House of Representatives.

The lawmakers approved 1.5 billion-naira proposed to purchase SUVs for the office of First Lady Oluremi Tinubu — an amount larger than that allocated to many individual federal colleges. The supplementary budget also proposes almost 6 billion naira to purchase SUVs for the presidency — more than the amount initially allocated to fund a student loan program for poor families.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-02/nigeria-budgets-for-suvs-and-yachts-amid-economic-hardship
Petrol should never cost more than N70 per litre, says APC

January 19, 2015

The All Progressives Congress (APC) has described as mere tokenism the reduction of petrol price from N97 to N87 per litre, saying the petroleum product ordinarily should sell for N70.

On Sunday, the federal government announced the reduction of petrol price, citing the fall of global crude oil price.

But the APC through Lai Mohammed, its spokesman, on Monday accused the government of making a show out of deceit, saying “a 10.3 per cent slash in the price of petrol was a mere tokenism at a time the price of crude oil has crashed by about 60 per cent”.

It argued that the pump price of a litre of petrol should not be more than 70 Naira, alleging that at N87 per litre, the government was forcing Nigerians to subsidise the massive corruption in the oil sector by N17 for every litre of fuel.

https://www.thecable.ng/petrol-never-cost-n70-per-litre-says-apc/
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by tesseract: 2:40pm On Sep 23, 2025
How is this out business?
Is Nigeria and Kenya the same.?
Pushing out narratives to nairaland and other SM platforms to justify their tax nonsense.
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by DextrousD: 2:40pm On Sep 23, 2025
CodeTemplarr:
how on earth did 52 people like such comment?
Seem these guys are already arming themselves ahead of 2027 propaganda. Wooooow. Woooooow
Asin ehn my brother, something is seriously wrong somewhere,

either there's a bot that does the auto likes, or many people just enjoy all these nonsense...

because if you go through other posts on this same tread, nobody quoted him to support what he said...

now if nobody is quoting to support his statement, where then did all the 52 likes come from?

in such a short time for that manner..

strange and super weird!

something might be wrong with Nairalan* as a whole.
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by BlackViper(op): 2:49pm On Sep 23, 2025
Are you sure about your claim that T.I.N can be obtained from FIRS website? Because it seems at odds with what FIRS itself published last week

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Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by Miosofune(m): 2:57pm On Sep 23, 2025
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BlackViper:
ria still has a long way to go to fulfil its tax revenue potential, but it has started the long walk there.

https://techcabal.com/2025/09/22/nigeria-tax-reform-vs-kenya-model/
[i][/i]This is all about what this one is currently eating and what he sees he will eat next. Comparing Nigeria with a sparsely populated country in tax collection is good, but what of the same set of countries that have low population but are better than Nigeria, good infrastructure, good salary, and most importantly good way of living. Nigeria is at its end time of the world.
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by nairalanda1(m): 3:01pm On Sep 23, 2025
CodeTemplarr:
Before crude was discovered, what did your fathers and mothers eat to have you?
Now if you agree they ate something without crude oil, and that crude oil funds is as good as tax in the hands of the leaders, tell me why should i submit my sweat to people who prioritize wastage and hajj or extremely useless projects to continue the charade so easily? Why?
It is clear who you work for. I know spambot is not intelligent nough to disvern that.
Good afternoon.
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by MrColdsweat: 3:06pm On Sep 23, 2025
Tinubu and remi should should Nigerians the receipts of their tax payments since 2003.

Rubbish!
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by Lamasta(m): 3:17pm On Sep 23, 2025
You want to turn Nigeria to Kenya ba APChuh
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by Ezyp(m): 3:19pm On Sep 23, 2025
kayttah:
Now, they can bring up another country as benchmark for what's going to favour them. If citizens demand stuff like what's obtaining in the US or UK or Australia for example, they'll come with different reasons why we shouldn't compare that way. People ruling in Nigeria are purely evil.
Exactly. They also forget that even though they collect taxes from their citizens, they also do tax return by the end of each year.

I doubt Nigeria government will copy the tax return.
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by Feelsgood: 3:20pm On Sep 23, 2025
helinues:
You can't run any business in Kenya without paying tax.

If you are running foods and drugs business, it's not even about the tax but scrutinizing before approval.

When we said things are just too easy in Nigeria, some people dont understand
Yeah! Easy... like politicians and government officials stealing our common wealth as they want... like very EASY! undecided
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by Kennitrust(m): 3:20pm On Sep 23, 2025
To justify the fraudulent taxation Nigerians are battling with abi
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by Dtruthspeaker: 3:49pm On Sep 23, 2025
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Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by Franking: 3:54pm On Sep 23, 2025
Who wants to pay tax in a fantastically corrupt country like Nigeria? You mean I should pay tax while the likes of Akpabio, Wike and their likes loot the money?
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by ElSudani: 3:58pm On Sep 23, 2025
Dalohad:
Oil-rich Libya under Ghadaffi paid almost zero taxes, government provided water, power and almost free housing. Cars were cheap. Fuel is still very cheap till today as part of his legacy.

Most Oil-rich Arab countries do not burden their people with exorbitant taxes. UAE is almost tax-free, that's why Americans and wealthy Europeans are running down there to live and work.

Your politicians whom you support for stipends that can barely get you a piece to eat, have monopolized Oil wealth. Because they have people like you ready to defend all their kleptomania and kleptocracy, they have become emboldened to further dip their fingers into the pockets of the common Nigerians and ask for blood in taxes, so they can maintain their expensively lifestyles, buy Prado jeeps and properties in the same countries where oil wealth and taxes are used judiciously without embezzlement.

Please if the brain is incompetent of proper research and reasoning, there is no need to join in this discourse.
Libya of course, Lagos alone is like three times the population of the whole of Libya and Libya has oil.
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by Tayorshd87(m): 4:13pm On Sep 23, 2025
BlackViper:
The problem of incompetence in tax collection is already raring its head again.

We have been told that the new tax regime will go into effect on the 1st of January 2026 and before then, everyone will be expected to already have a Tax Identification Number (TIN), but even as of now approaching the end of September, there is no single registration centre anywhere where one can get a T.I.N.

Are they now going to introduce registration centres at the 11th hour so people will be queueing for their T.I.N during the Christmas break because they want to beat the deadline of 1st January 2026?

To add insult to injury, they will still penalise you if you fail to acquire a T.I.N before the deadline.

Nigerians are watching and waiting.
Intelligent input 🙁☹️

But I guess there is a link to register that online without physical center ..

Check it out ..
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by dalass(f): 4:18pm On Sep 23, 2025
BlackViper:
The problem of incompetence in tax collection is already raring its head again.

We have been told that the new tax regime will go into effect on the 1st of January 2026 and before then, everyone will be expected to already have a Tax Identification Number (TIN), but even as of now approaching the end of September, there is no single registration centre anywhere where one can get a T.I.N.

Are they now going to introduce registration centres at the 11th hour so people will be queueing for their T.I.N during the Christmas break because they want to beat the deadline of 1st January 2026?

To add insult to injury, they will still penalise you if you fail to acquire a T.I.N before the deadline.

Nigerians are watching and waiting.
You are so correct 💯.

Also, I don't believe that Kenya generates more taxes than Nigeria. A lot of taxes generated in Naija go into private pockets, companies and even government officers.

They only remit whatever is left after sharing the generated taxes.
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by Igbek76: 4:47pm On Sep 23, 2025
Dalohad:
Tulumbu Agbadomudeens don come with propaganda..

How much oil does Kenya have?

You have also conveniently forgotten that the same Tax law led to the riots in Kenya and the government had to backtrack.

If you want NEPAL+ Kenya situation next year, no wahala, tell Tinubu s to carry on.
Empty vessel makes the loudest noise.
How has your gra gra helped your community?
You guyz don't want Nigeria to be organized under a system that works and it's auditable.
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by Dalohad: 4:56pm On Sep 23, 2025
Igbek76:
Empty vessel makes the loudest noise.
How has your gra gra helped your community?
You guyz don't want Nigeria to be organized under a system that works and it's auditable.
Yes, you want it to be organised by having Nigerians donate 25% of their pennies and hard earned for politicians (whom you either work for or benefit from) to swallow wholesale in the guise of Taxes, they way they have done with Oil wealth since 1960.

How many Nigerians know what crude oil looks like?
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by ufotunang: 5:05pm On Sep 23, 2025
motymop:
i have a first hand experience on how they do it

if you are using a toll for instance, you dont pay cash, you use your phone and dail a code to pay, as you pass the toll, they will issue you the receipt.

They are actually very advanced when it comes to collecting tax.

every damn thing is taxed in that country.
.. have you been to the country before..I am just asking
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by COMPAQ(m): 5:07pm On Sep 23, 2025
BlackViper:
The problem of incompetence in tax collection is already raring its head again.

We have been told that the new tax regime will go into effect on the 1st of January 2026 and before then, everyone will be expected to already have a Tax Identification Number (TIN), but even as of now approaching the end of September, there is no single registration centre anywhere where one can get a T.I.N.

Are they now going to introduce registration centres at the 11th hour so people will be queueing for their T.I.N during the Christmas break because they want to beat the deadline of 1st January 2026?

To add insult to injury, they will still penalise you if you fail to acquire a T.I.N before the deadline.

Nigerians are watching and waiting.
Na you no Sabi. Go the the website of the Joint Tax Board, find the link to generating TIN, input your BVN or NIN and you get a TIN automatically.

Besides they say your NIN is also your TIN so what are you on about?
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by Murketeer: 5:20pm On Sep 23, 2025
helinues:
You can't run any business in Kenya without paying tax.

If you are running foods and drugs business, it's not even about the tax but scrutinizing before approval.

When we said things are just too easy in Nigeria, some people dont understand
Goan look up the minimum wage of Kenya first and come back
Re: How Kenya Collects More Taxes Than Nigeria With Fewer People by YouAreNobody: 5:22pm On Sep 23, 2025
helinues:
You can't run any business in Kenya without paying tax.

If you are running foods and drugs business, it's not even about the tax but scrutinizing before approval.

When we said things are just too easy in Nigeria, some people dont understand
Yes, let's pay more tax so tinubu and his boys can use the money to enjoy their lives
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