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AntiChristian:
But his son Pastor Dare later died at 42 years in 2021.

So whether he leaves RCCG or not if his son will die he will die! Even Jesus can't stop his own death in the Bible.

Sirmwill:
The last line is totally not correct

Jesus actually came to die and then Wake up back to prove total power over death!

AntiChristian:
I think that last line is the most correct.

Biblically the one who has power of death is only the father who lives eternally. Jesus tasted death according to the Bible!
Na humans dey come to die!

Sirmwill:
Funny
Have you heard about Enoch and Elijah?
They didn't experience Death

Jesus, majorly came to die and then resurrect to finally debunk the power of death among humans!

So, believing in him means having power over death!
The Father is in Jesus and Jesus is in the Father!

AntiChristian:
If you say Enoch and Elijah didn't die then Hebrew 9:27, Ecclesiastes 9:2 and James 4:14 all say humans will die at least once. So all will die even if the Bible failed to record their deaths!
Only humans die not Gods! Gods don't turn human! God don't lie!

MaxInDHouse:
Atimes i love your envy as you tolerate no rivalry for truth but Islam will always render you enthusiasm futile because Islam in itself is incomplete.

Well those Bible verses you quoted aren't direct enough to expose the lies in what the other man said you should have used the Bible book of Romans 3:23 and 5:12

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23

That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned. Romans 5:12

So if all humans are sinners and death is what death brings {Romans 6:23} because we all came through Adam and none of us worths being glorified as immotals this simply means Enoch and Elijah both died it's just that inspired Bible writers didn't record their death!

AntiChristian:
Baba JW, you better go argue with them about trinity and how Jesus came back when Nigeria was amalgamated.
I no get time for ẹjọ wẹ wẹ!

AntiChristian:
If you say Enoch and Elijah didn't die then Hebrew 9:27, Ecclesiastes 9:2 and James 4:14 all say humans will die at least once. So all will die even if the Bible failed to record their deaths!

Only humans die not Gods! Gods don't turn human! God don't lie!

Sirmwill:
gods? SMH
Yeah there are many Man created gods
Created by only one God

There is only one God
The Father of Everyone as he is the Father of Jesus
Thats the only one God

The Bible did not "fail" to record their deaths
They didn't die.

Every other persons that came to create religions claiming they are Prophets or Messengers are all dead and are awaiting the final Judgement for their deceits!

Only one died and Resurrected back in his Physical body and ascended to Heaven after revealing himself to people and even eating among people

He did all of this to (amomg other things) forever prove that he alone knows the one only true God and He alone is the way and He and everyone who believes him are all sons of God!

AntiChristian:
So you are telling me the Bible lied that everyone will die? I have given you the verses that clearly says every human will die. So saying some humans did not die makes the Bible a lie.

Clarify this first! Verses are Hebrew 9:27, Ecclesiastes 9:2 and James 4:14.

Secondly, who came to create religion? Where in the Bible did anyone create any religion? Did Abraham, Moses, Jesus, John the Baptist or any other mentioned any religion as theirs?

And how did God have birth to sons? What does God need sons for?
In Genesis 6:1-4, some sons of God were mentioned coming to impregnate daughters of men! Are these Jesus's brothers from the same God?

Sirmwill:
Okay
I now understand your little issue
Your understanding of the word sons is not the same way the Bible describes Sons/Children

Can the size an Ocean be determined by the size of a pin in the Ocean?
Can A creator of Life need life?


You asked who created Religion?
Depending on what you define religion as

Well
The Rich and the Poor,The Old and Young,The Mighty and Weak,they all move by what they see.Some money.Some Aging.Some Strength.
What a Man sees,He moves by.So then,The Creator of Man would move by what?
Then what would move the Creator of Man?

A Ruler sends his head of staff to go and share food to his Subjects.
Some collected it with Plates,some with their bare hands.Some took it and sold it to other subjects.Some rejected it and died of hunger.Some exhausted it and need more.Some stole the ones given to others.Some took theirs, poisoned it and ate it together with others.
There still remains only one Ruler!

Then
You have been quoting specific Bible verses and Claiming that saying some people did not die makes the Bible a Lie
That's interesting 😂

It's just like a King who is served Food and told it is poisoned by the Chef himself.
Another King would simply Leave the food since he can.
But this particular King eats the food and dies because of Hunger.
Their Kingdoms are still existing and People are still in those Kingdoms living to tell the stories of their Kings.

I hope you would now understand.
If not now, soonest

AntiChristian:
You sabi write out of point. Where you asked all these? That's the same way some will collect extra sheets in exam hall and still end up scoring D. Na error be that!

Hebrews 9:27 (NWT): "And just as it is reserved for men to die once for all time, but after this a judgment,"

Ecclesiastes 9:2 (NWT): "Everything is the same for all; there is one fate for the righteous and the wicked, for the good and the clean and the unclean, for the one who sacrifices and the one who does not sacrifice. As is the good person, so is the sinner; the one who takes an oath is as the one who fears an oath."

James 4:14 (NWT): "Whereas you do not know what your life will be tomorrow. For you are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes."

Answer the question directly and stop beating about the bush!

Sirmwill:
I answered your questions already