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Image123:
Ask them for what they say and why when you meet them. Facts stubbornly show that religion is not what is attacked when they raze villages, towns, buses and markets as they do.

why then do the chant allahu akbar?

Honestey:
These bums are trying too hard to cause mayhem in Nigeria. Even Nigeria christians know that Bandits are operating in deeply core Muslim communities and thus killing more Muslims than Christians. The only time they were killing christians as they killed Muslims was in Kaduna under the Governorship of the current ADC man. Bandits and Boko Haram are not any religion group and are not serving the interest of Islam. They are basically mistake that must be eliminated by the Nigeria society.

what then happen in borno state? Why do they chant allahu akbar when carrying out their act?

Don27tiky:
how then do you explain this
Jihadist cross the Muslim dominated Nasarawa state without harming anyone but get to Christian state of Benue and massacre people

You explain it by looking at the number of states facing insecurity, how many are the casualties, are they asked for their religion before harm, what are their leaders doing to avoid or reduce insecurity, and why are non Christians affected.

SpaceX:
why then do the chant allahu akbar?

Ask them for what they say and why when you meet them. Facts stubbornly show that religion is not what is attacked when they raze villages, towns, buses and markets as they do.

lafiagi007:
This would be the most sensible comment in this entire thread. Muslims and christians are dying on daily basis, with recent spike in killing muslim worshippers in the mosque during worship, but someone who is out if sync with the reality on ground claims it's only one group that is being massacred unfortunately. This kind of news would further cause more polarity among the people.

the target is the Christians. They only want to create dominance among the Muslim folks. When they finally achieve that dealing with the Christians in their mist will become easier. Plateau kaduna Niger Kwara Christians will be an easy take. Don’t be fooled, the agenda is real

God1000:
Nigeria is a very polarized country, issues like this will surely ignite serious debate among Christians and Muslims.

As a Christian, I believe people from both religions are dying from Boko Haram, Fulani herdsmen, unknown gunmen, kidnapers and ritualists everyday, it will not be fair to say Christians are facing persecution.

Go to several communities in Borno, zamfara, Niger State and the rest where bandits control and commit atrocities daily

There's general insecurity in Nigeria and government failure to address it over the years has put the entire country in this current situation.

Some politicians are behind the crisis in States like Benue, plateau and southern Kaduna where Fulani herdsmen are killing ethnic minorities and seizing their lands

What are your proof politicians are behind the killings?

You are not being sincerely honest， anyway most of you like to comment out of emotion and religious affiliation

Don27tiky:
how then do you explain this
Jihadist cross the Muslim dominated Nasarawa state without harming anyone but get to Christian state of Benue and massacre people

Is benue crisis religous or territorial

What of zamfara, sokoto, katsina, bornu , how do u explain those

King2305:
You are not a Christian. Today is Sunday abeg stop the lies.

If you are a Christian u would have known the atrocities former kaduna governor committed in Southern kaduna. There was a systematic religious cleansing in that area.

Also, Benue killings are mainly religious war not a land dispute as acclaimed. Those people have no heritage in those area.

Why would someone kill and shout Allah Akbar if not for a religious motivated reasons

dont mind them
the target is the Christians. They only want to create dominance among the Muslim folks. When they finally achieve that dealing with the Christians in their mist will become easier. Plateau kaduna Niger Kwara Christians will be an easy take. Don’t be fooled, the agenda is real
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Image123:
You explain it by looking at the number of states facing insecurity, how many are the casualties, are they asked for their religion before harm, what are their leaders doing to avoid or reduce insecurity, and why are non Christians affected.

the target is the Christians. They only want to create dominance among the Muslim folks. When they finally achieve that dealing with the Christians in their mist will become easier. Plateau kaduna Niger Kwara Christians will be an easy take. Don’t be fooled, the agenda is real
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Proudlyngwa:
Is benue crisis religous or territorial

What of zamfara, sokoto, katsina, bornu , how do u explain those

the target is the Christians. They only want to create dominance among the Muslim folks. When they finally achieve that dealing with the Christians in their mist will become easier. Plateau kaduna Niger Kwara Christians will be an easy take. Don’t be fooled, the agenda is real
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God1000:
please free me abeg, do you know how many threads I've created on Benue crisis or do you want me to start giving you the links here?


I believe you are a Christian from southern part of Nigeria supporting the daily carnage in Gaza, and at the same time defending the criminals in your region, but you don't want me to condemn or even have an opinion on Gaza conflict because something similar is happening in Benue state, that's hypocrisy

Nobody can tell me what to do

Be useful to Gaza nah...pack up your bags and go there... I'm sure they'll put you to a good use defender of Gaza... while your local benue people are being massacred on a daily

Don27tiky:
the target is the Christians. They only want to create dominance among the Muslim folks. When they finally achieve that dealing with the Christians in their mist will become easier. Plateau kaduna Niger Kwara Christians will be an easy take. Don’t be fooled, the agenda is real
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Okay so we should take your ideas without any proof or evidence? The target is Christians but millions of non Christians have lost their lives, right? Why view it with a religious prism? What about the more obvious political and tribal reasons?

AustineE1:
You think others dont keep records because we dont,record from Christian communities,from eye witnesses on ground,from NGO's,Red cross,from media houses,social media postings,satellite images,may be NEMA and other government records.

You said everything without saying anything.

Can I have a link to just one of those records? Also names of at least 50 of those destroyed churches?

At least if they have access to it, we should be able to as well. Its not about calling out numbers, there needs to be names and addresses attached to those numbers.

I read they destroy 500 churches every month in Nigeria. In this same Nigeria? Which state(s)? Which local government(s)?

Image123:
Ask them for what they say and why when you meet them. Facts stubbornly show that religion is not what is attacked when they raze villages, towns, buses and markets as they do.

please be civil for once, I'm from borno State and I have experience it first hand. Don't gaslight the truth

God1000:
Bill Maher claims slaughter of Christians in Nigeria is being ignored because 'the Jews aren't involved'


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Fox news

Thanks a lot for bringing this to the Global World attention. But the question remains: What are the Christians in Nigeria equally doing about this? We have Mega churches here & there; Christian Presidents, Vice Presidents, Senators, MPs, Governors etc. Yet they are all complacent waiting for the miracles from heaven. If Jews had waited, would Hamas know that they have crossed their boundary for killing Jews during their Holy Week on Oct 7? I come in peace though!!!

Your question is off topic and derailing. The post is Christians being killed and ignored, did they ask you who is inside a mosque?

LordReed:
My question is are they also Christians. Please answer that.

Muslims will gaslight and downplay this evil act while their "holy book" support this act 100%, not only that the guys carrying out the act chant allahu akbar still they pretend it doesn't exist.

You can imagine if it's the other way around they will never let you rest.

God1000:
Nigeria is a very polarized country, issues like this will surely ignite serious debate among Christians and Muslims.

As a Christian, I believe people from both religions are dying from Boko Haram, Fulani herdsmen, unknown gunmen, kidnapers and ritualists everyday, it will not be fair to say Christians are facing persecution.

Go to several communities in Borno, zamfara, Niger State and the rest where bandits control and commit atrocities daily

There's general insecurity in Nigeria and government failure to address it over the years has put the entire country in this current situation.

Some politicians are behind the crisis in States like Benue, plateau and southern Kaduna where Fulani herdsmen are killing ethnic minorities and seizing their lands

You need more understanding on the matter. We are talking about the biggest ethnic cleansing going on in Africa. We are talking about Muslim Fulani taking ovet communities in Adamawa, Taraba, Benue and plateau.Mostly christian communities are targeted and after the destruction, the fulanis occupy the lands as anyone alive will never return out of fear.
I have traveled to many of these places and I understand what is happening and who is being targeted.
Christian ls are facing an existential threat in Northern Nigeria. And even you a so called Nigerian Christian is unaware.
I can bet that you know more about the war in Gaza than the war in Benue.

Image123:
Okay so we should take your ideas without any proof or evidence? The target is Christians but millions of non Christians have lost their lives, right? Why view it with a religious prism? What about the more obvious political and tribal reasons?

it is not political it is about religious dominance. Remember Boko haram started hoisting flags in conquered territories in borno state. They started by targeting Christians when opposition began among their fellow Muslims now you here pockets of Muslim targeted. They cannot control if every is not on their side. Atiku, kwankwaso, Ganduje and other northern leaders stay mute when Christians are massacred

[quote author=God1000 post=136942708]Nigeria is a very polarized country, issues like this will surely ignite serious debate among Christians and Muslims.

As a Christian, I believe people from both religions are dying from Boko Haram, Fulani herdsmen, unknown gunmen, kidnapers and ritualists everyday, it will not be fair to say Christians are facing persecution.

Go to several communities in Borno, zamfara, Niger State and the rest where bandits control and commit atrocities daily

There's general insecurity in Nigeria and government failure to address it over the years has put the entire country in this current situation.

Some politicians are behind the crisis in States like Benue, plateau and southern Kaduna where Fulani herdsmen are killing ethnic minorities and seizing their lands.

You're right on this, not only Christians that are victims of this killings in Nigeria even Muslims also, it is happening in sokoto too and same way they're killing Christians in the churches is also same way they're killing Muslims in mosques.
This is not about religion it's about insecurity in the country.

Christians in the north understand better
Of course Boko haram started out by burning churches and killing Christians, after they had killed police and police refused to be posted to Borno
Ask a northern Christian how many churches have been burnt
People keep forgetting the church bombings all the way to Abuja until Christians started resisting and fighting back and putting check points before entering churches in the north


If you’re not a Christian in the north or are too young or uninformed to know please don’t say Christian’s are not being persecuted

If Fulani bandits catch folks, they usually kill most soldiers and pastors or priests


They burn most of the churches close to their operation areas in the north


If you live in the south, ask someone from ECWA or COCIN churches which have roots deep in the north to find out how many of their churches have been burnt and the attacks they still face till date

Those days CAN used to documentaries about these things and take it to various churches nationwide and show people and ask for prayers for persecuted Christians, now all we hear in a lot of Nigerian churches is prosperity

God1000:
This is a controversial topic, apart from a handful of incidents involving the killing of few persons over blasphemy, I can't say there's general persecution of Christians in Nigeria

I can bet you have never been to Adamawa, Taraba, Benue or Plateau. Educate yourself on the matter before speaking.
Do you know that entire christian communities have become Muslim after the original inheritance have been killed ane expelled.
Do you know christian communities have their vigilante arrested all the time giving the Muslims easy access to commit genocide?
If you don't understand that genocide and ethnic cleansing is going on in Nigeria, you really know nothing.

God bless you bro
Our country is so divided that if our leaders speaks up against any bad things going on in the world, the next thing is for this people to bring sentiments news in order to be able to divide Us one would think they truly care about us when it's been said that they themselves are the one funding boko haram and d other unrest through Disguise humanitarian aid

God1000:
Nigeria is a very polarized country, issues like this will surely ignite serious debate among Christians and Muslims.

As a Christian, I believe people from both religions are dying from Boko Haram, Fulani herdsmen, unknown gunmen, kidnapers and ritualists everyday, it will not be fair to say Christians are facing persecution.

Go to several communities in Borno, zamfara, Niger State and the rest where bandits control and commit atrocities daily

There's general insecurity in Nigeria and government failure to address it over the years has put the entire country in this current situation.

Some politicians are behind the crisis in States like Benue, plateau and southern Kaduna where Fulani herdsmen are killing ethnic minorities and seizing their lands

See the way they try to downplay it "Bill Maher claims" like as if it not true.

Kaduna state had a large population of Christians back in the days but they were deleted and chase away reason why el-rufai claims only 10% are currently in Kaduna state. He unknown acknowledge that a genocide had been carried out.

Victor Moses will definitely agree with my statement.

This is not about religion, it is about insecurity in the country.
The country is mostly concerned about politics and this same politicians are the ones killing Nigerians most

Proudlyngwa:
Is benue crisis religous or territorial

What of zamfara, sokoto, katsina, bornu , how do u explain those

It is both. But most importantly, it is genocide and ethnic cleansing. But you never talk about it.
Note, the fulanis have zero claims in Benue.
In sokoto, katsina, the could stake their claims.
In these states, both Fulani and Hausa trade blames and claim ownership to land but not Benue, not southern Adamawa, not Plateau and most of Taraba.
Please study the crisis in your country more than you study the one in Gaza.

Again, do you even know about the attacks on christian communities in sokoto, katsina? I have visited all these places and I know where the killings are taking place.

Paut:
This is not about religion, it is about insecurity in the country.
The country is mostly concerned about politics and this same politicians are the ones killing Nigerians most

it's both religion being the priority, I'm from borno State and I can tell you it's all about religion. Are you aware of footballer Victor Moses story? What happened to his parent?

The way Nigerians analyse issue is sad and bias.
Shebi Majority carries the vote in such a country. It's published that the Muslims are more than Christians 1, 2 Majority of the Bandits, BHchas, herdsmen and Gunmen were Muslims, another majority. The suicide bombers and kidnappers more than 60 percent are Muslims, so what's wrong about bills statement even if Muslims na dem de suffer pass as they want to start hiding and denying with sense. Period the world is seeing Muslim domination in Nigeria from all ramifications this na just for chancing, enter politics, jobs, sports...

Sokoto, katsina, zamfara have over 98% muslim population combined, and 90% of bandits attacks is in those areas, most of the people killed are muslims. Even borno, yobe, bauchi where boko haram operates 90% of the victims are muslims is more of ideological war than religious.

amah4game:
It is called in Hausa "Hana Ransuwa" it's an act that portrays similar damages on both sides,please tell me how many mosques have been attacked and how many churches have been attacked in the past 10 years and still counting.