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| Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 1:01pm On Sep 29, 2025*. Modified: 2:52pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
This video is showing an International Bible Students Association (IBSA) Convention Program having the picture of a Masonic Lodge and Programs with Dates,Times and Public Talks exactly as it is presently organized in Jehovah's witnesses today. This Convention program clearly shows the Venue to be a Masonic Lodge. This is during the time Joseph Rutherford was the Leader/President of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. This was before Jehovah's witnesses ever thought of having Kingdom Halls. This is where they used to have their Talks.From the program, IBSA is clearly shown in front of the Lodge showing that the International Bible Students Association own this Masonic Lodge. It is their property. As you can see on the back of the Convention program, the Masonic symbol, the Cross and Crown is boldly shown on it. Back then, They were openly Masonic unlike now they are trying their hardest to Hide their Masonic roots. Today, IBSA still meet at Masonic Lodges. Cc: wumiwumi100 Sand2022 achorladey Oteneaaron Emusan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dcv4vKDV8g?si=Ga6ynnLn8S78Ena- |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 1:09pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
There is another Talk by Joseph Rutherford and the Venue of this talk was placed on a Banner to advertise to the public. The Venue was still a Masonic Lodge. I found it on a video sometime ago. I will try to find it and post it here. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 2:25pm On Sep 29, 2025*. Modified: 2:46pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
Apart from meeting in Masonic Lodges, JWs used to do Business with a Masonic Lodge in helping to sell their Publications. In the first pic, that is a letter to a subscriber of the Golden Age magazine which is now known as the Awake magazine of the JWs. Back then, people subscribe to get these magazines and they pay for them. In the last pic below, you can see how the Golden Age magazine changed to Awake magazine over the years. The interesting thing is a branch of the Freemasons known as ODD FELLOWS were helping to advertise and sell the JWS publications. In the letter, it says if they pay a certain amount, they will get the Golden Age magazine PLUS another one that says MILLIONS NOW LIVING WILL NEVER DIE which JWs know very well. This shows that Freemasons and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society are One and the same and were business partners together. Zoom on the Letter very well. You can see the Masonic Lodge called ODD FELLOWS TEMPLE boldly on the letter head. You can also see the Golden Age boldly shown in the letter by the top left.
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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 2:40pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
To further add, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society has International Bible Students Association as one of their Corporations. Wikipedia has this info already. IBSA is registered under Watchtower. JW founder Charles Taze Russell made it very clear in a 1914 Watchtower magazine that Watchtower and IBSA have the same goals. Whatever you see IBSA do, Watchtower is in charge of that. They are together. So, you may go to IBSA website and check their FAq section, they lied they have no business with JWS. But Wikipedia tells a different story. In a charity website where Watchtower is registered, IBSA is mentioned as one of their contacts apart from Jw website. Wikipedia will tell you that The International Bible Students Association assists the Jehovah's witnesses in their operations. It is all there. Check it. When Rutherford was President, he was still dealing with the International Bible Students Association. They were helping in the production of JW Publications. Go and find old Publications written by Rutherford. They still have International Bible Students Association written amongst Publishers in front of their books. Therefore, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society Runs both Jehovah's witnesses and International Bible Students Association. IBSA are openly Masons. JW organization is secretly one. If IBSA is Masonic, what does that make Watchtower? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by descarado: 2:47pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
This is charles tomb Make your conclusion. Courz abi court, leave JW alone. Move on. No be only you be ex-member. I was once a member.
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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 2:53pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
descarado:Thank you so much for posting the Tomb of Charles Taze Russell. The pagan Pyramid of Giza in Egypt with the Masonic Symbol, Cross and Crown carved boldly by Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. Nice one . You are helping my ministry. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by descarado: 2:59pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
Courz:Haba. Just let them be. No religion or religious sect is perfect. I have studied religion very deep that I just see all with the lens of the same prism. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by achorladey: 3:09pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
Courz:It will be difficult for them to deny traces of their mode of operations in those things captured in the supporting materials. I still remember Ray Franz talking about a particular book or mantle of sort his uncle Fred did not allow him to see until he was kicked out of the organization |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 3:16pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
descarado:This thread is for JW PIMOs and people who don't know JWS. It's not for everyone. I will not let this issue go as long as the JW Cult exists to continue deceiving the public with False pretense. You have chosen to keep quiet As an ExJW. But it is because of people like me who keep speaking out that you were able to leave JW. I have chosen to speak out. That's my decision. Not yours. I have chosen to do what the Bible says, To expose Evil. This is my calling. As Christians, we are not supposed to be quiet. Satan thrives on secrecy the same way JW does. He enjoys it when we keep quiet so that his machinations and deceit can continue. Our exposures are helping the Ignorant. More and more videos about the Masonic nature of JW are being produced every day. This exposure has been happening since Charles Taze Russell. It will never stop. People will never get tired. Many people still don't know what JWs are. They only see the surface. This is where people like me come in. My continuous exposure is the consequences a Cult must experience for destroying people's lives. God is using many people from different walks of Life to expose JW. You can always ignore my threads if this isn't your cup of tea. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 3:20pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
achorladey:Hmm. What book is that? Do you have an idea of what it is? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 3:53pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
This video below is where the video in the Op was taken from. The video helps to tie Watchtower and Freemasonry. I will be posting more videos on this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHB2nsMr5t4?si=II4iZIJ2696WYx0p |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by kingthreat(m): 3:59pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
The founder of the movement was known to be a freemason. That I have known for a long time. But so far I have nothing against the JWs, neither do I see it as a cult. They are just a set of christians with different understandings of the doctrines of Christianity. To be part of God's kingdom, you have to believe that Jesus is the son of God and this they believe so I let them be. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 4:18pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
More on JW and Freemasonry. The videos I will be dropping from now are videos that shows Signs and symbols of Freemasonry in JW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXQAWRMuqPg?si=stDfWSmK5_ydmKaK |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 4:26pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
kingthreat:They are not Christians. They do no follow the words of Christ. They are not taught on how to have a relationship with Jesus. They don't recognize him as God. They call him Angel Michael. They get their doctrines from Angels and not the Holy Spirit. Their system is run exactly as a Cult. By their roots and doctrines, they have shown not to be Christians. If you don't have full knowledge of their doctrines and understand them, you will think they are Christians. Yes they believe Jesus is the Son of God but that belief is not enough to make them Christians. Jesus is not an important person in JW. They teach that Jesus is not the mediator for the JW Great Crowd. They also deny his sacrifice when they perform the passover of the Bread and Wine. Their passover is twisted and they don't know this. Only the Freemason JWs in their midst and Christian EXJWs know this. Their Bible is twisted and has words changed to suit their doctrines which shows they have a problem with the Bible itself. Their doctrines have an Occultic source. Their beliefs are A mixture of some Christian plus Jewish plus the Occult. It's contaminated. It's not Christian. Do thorough research on JW. You are only looking at the surface. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 4:40pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
This is another video. It talks about an old Book that exposes many Cults throughout history of which JW was mentioned. It also revealed the roots of the JW which is Jewish Masonry. Which explains why JWs in the Kingdom hall are always focused on the Old Testament characters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH41bJxBnoQ?si=LwAt893FQkds1I4o |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 5:02pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
The below video will display Masonic symbols JWs are using in Modern times. You will see a Kingdom hall in the U.K having Satanic symbols at the Entrance of the Hall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy99b7mjsS0?si=177_JRuNoCOzKHM0 |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 7:04pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
Another short video about Freemasonry in JW. This video will show the terms JWs stole from Freemasonry to infuse into their own doctrines and Terminologies showing a similarity between the two Cults. Also, more information is shown directly from Masonic books about the terms they use,why they use them and the significance of the name JEHOVAH in Freemasonry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDv-EWOEMoo?si=uaN-ownI7mhylbKG |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Ruke1991: 7:10pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
Courz:I have been suspecting the JW to be a cult. But you just really cleared my doubts |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Ruke1991: 7:14pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
kingthreat:Jesus didn't need to die or even incarnate for us to believe he has a son. Angels didn't incarnate and we already believe they exist. The essence of Jesus blood being shed is for remission of sin. Unless sins are remitted no one can enter God's kingdom - it doesn't matter whether they believe God has a son or not |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 7:33pm On Sep 29, 2025*. Modified: 7:59pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
Ruke1991:Oh Yes. JW is a Masonic Cult masquerading itself as a Christian religion in order to deceive those who don't read their Bibles. All JW Leaders, their Freemason JWs in their midst and Christian EXJWs know all of this. The only people who don't know this are JWs themselves. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 7:46pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
Another short video. This one below is just explaining the Knights Templar symbol on the Zions Watchtower magazine. Knights Templar is a level in Freemasonry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZJr6OjiiRw?si=w8HZpCpeB2VU0Zs1 |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 7:56pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
The last of the series on Watchtower and Freemasonry. This video discusses their attempts to remove their links to Freemasonry. Just click on the link regardless. You will be taken to the video on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpID1kobD_E?si=j8W8l6xogsYCdXtz |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 8:11pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
Another very short video. This one shows the different Masonic Lodges around the U.S where the International Bible Students Association have been attending their meetings and Conventions over the years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avot9kTG_8E?si=nArStGAb1ZkDaOw- |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by achorladey: 8:13pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
Courz:I don't oooo, I know Ray Franz mentioned it in his books |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by kingthreat(m): 8:14pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
Courz:Thanks for this insight, I will learn more. I have seen many Christian faiths and I am more comfortable with JWs than many of them. I just see JWs as people who are astray in a way. But believe me many are worse. For true Christianity, positive relationship with God is all that matters, thanks for pointing that out. But even many Pentecostal ministries don't teach that. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 8:35pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
Another short video showing a Satanic symbol used in Magic shown in a JW magazine from their website. I don't even understand why the symbol is fixed there. Maybe it was fixed to have some effect on whoever reads the magazine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTuX2pE0c5I?si=BrMa38MdWz-U8318 |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:42pm On Sep 29, 2025*. Modified: 9:28pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
descarado:Sorry that's not Charles Taze Russell's tomb but the most popular tomb in the cemetery where he was buried. If you check the Internet the information is on the site that Charles was buried near this pyramid. This is his real tomb below!
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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 8:46pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
kingthreat:I know that others will also have their faults. But as Christians, we are meant to have Spirit of discernment. The Bible has warned us to Test the Spirits to see if teachings are from the Holy Spirit or from Demons. Testing the spirit is not allowed in JW. We are not to allow anyone throw us around with every wind of doctrine like the JW Leadership do to JWS. I knew you don't know JWs that well and you are focusing on outward appearance which makes you comfortable with JW. But if you know your Bible well, you can very easily see that JWs are thoroughly deceived and you won't be a part of their agenda. They preach a completely different Gospel from Christianity, something Apostle Paul warned against. This is why they have a very high rejection rate when they go to preach outside. The deceit is deliberate because their Leaders are taking them to an unknown destination. You don't want to be there. Arm yourself with enough information about JW so that you are strong in the Faith. The JW religion has a different agenda which is why they had the audacity to change and twist words in their Bible. Stay away from this Cult for your own good. If you join but later decide you want to Leave, you will be punished and your reputation will be destroyed because this is how Cults behave. How to know a Cult is to find out what happens to you when you choose to disagree with them and Leave. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by FxMasterz: 8:59pm On Sep 29, 2025*. Modified: 9:59pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
kingthreat:Demons also believe that Jesus is the Son of God (Mark 3:11-12, Mathew 8:28-34), does that make them part of the Kingdon of God? The JWs don't even believe Jesus to be the Son of God in the actual sense. They believe He's angel Michael. Demons are even better than them. To be part of God's Kingdom, Jesus must be your Lord and Saviour. This, the JWs reject. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by Courz(op): 9:24pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:It is already too late to come here and deny all these when Bible students have already confirmed that the Pyramid was erected according to Charles Taze Russell's instructions. Don't come here to lie. Why does the pyramid have Watchtower Bible and Tract Society boldly engraved on it with the Masonic symbol? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Having Meetings In Masonic Lodge In The 1920s by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:27pm On Sep 29, 2025 |
Courz:Even though this is a lie at least you can still tell the truth that his body wasn't buried inside the pyramid but in a tomb near it! ![]() |
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