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creativejagaban:
Na your loss or what?

Once they are successfully redeployed, they will no longer be under pengassan or nonsense-ssan.

By then, dangote can decide to week them out one by one for non-performance, and pengassan will not have the jurisdiction to fight for them.

You may argue that the jobless nlc will then jump in to fight for them. Until then.

Nigerians need to start asking questions about how nlc, pengassan and other unions use the funds accrued to them over the years. We need an hashtag.

#whereisthemoney-pengassan

Weed out the people he spent millions to train in India, and the people that have already gotten enough experience to get better jobs abroad

Do you even know why dangote made them sign bonds before their training? Man must be licking his wounds by now. I guess you have never reached the level of knowing what it takes to train staffs and lose them immediately

unions are there for a reason. to prevent slave labour.
this man does not trust nigerians, so he employ Indians. that's colonial behaviour

MuchAdo:
We don't care!

So far there are NO unions in Dangote refinery

PENGASSAN can go to hell. It's game over for them. No union can hold Nigeria hostage anymore

billyG:
How many functional refinery do we have in Naija to engage them?

They were trained in india, obtained international certifications, worked in one of the biggest refineries in Africa.
Find out how many refineries are in the world

you Gerrit?
If you don't Gerrit forgerrit

frog12:
unions are there for a reason. to prevent slave labour.
this man does not trust nigerians, so he employ Indians. that's colonial behaviour

They have failed woefully so far.

Indians, Chinese and Lebanese continue to ride roughshod on Nigerians.

parags:
Lol . Those staff will all be sacked again. Redeploying them to other parts and firing them soon after will be treated as isolated incidences that occured at different times . Not that they will be in one company at the same time . It is a Trojan horse and Pegassan has accepted it .

As a private business , you have the right to hire and fire anyone for whatever reason . Rehiring them is just to bid time and get the strike suspended .

NAH !! Dangote really get sense, to is Team i say wow, Such a brilliant solution moving forward

There is no point sacking those Employee anytime again, they have being neutralized and rendered uselezz for whatever mission Cabals might need them for

Other businesses of Dangote are " Secured" they cant sabotage it, But the " Refinery" ota po ju enemy lor

Those workers have been disarmed... kudus to Dangote team

MuchAdo:
Story story

They will be flushed out eventually under one guise or the other.

How dare you dictate to your employer? What effrontery!

Some of them could have left earlier if not for the bond they signed. Now dangote frees them from that bond, they will go with all the training and experience and guess what? Lots of refineries abroad can't wait to have them. Imagine their salary compared to dangote 300k

Summary: dangote spent millions of dollars to train them for other companies

Who lose?

There is a reason the meeting held in the NSA's office

PENGASSAN must been threatened to submission with this useless offer as a form of consolation

The Players?
PENGASSAN Vs Aliko.

The game?
Checkers Player Vs Chess Player.

The duration?
Short-term Vs Long-term.


Only true business investors will understand the level of Aliko's win. A few employees and business people may understand too though.

PS.
Unfortunately, most people commenting on this issue seem to be hustlers who don't fall under any of the structured income bracket.

and you dey support am??

MuchAdo:
They have failed woefully so far.

Indians, Chinese and Lebanese continue to ride roughshod on Nigerians.

frog12:
unions are there for a reason. to prevent slave labour.
this man does not trust nigerians, so he employ Indians. that's colonial behaviour

Are the indians or chinese complaining Dangote is colonizing or enslaving them ... remember they enter plane come naija by themselves

frog12:
and you dey support am??

I mean the Unions have failed...

Streetinvestor2:
If it was that easy they won't have been fighting to stay back in the refinery.
Infact they would be happy to leave or have tendered resignation since when the company went against thr will.Stop claiming what u are not.If u are part of them u lacked wisdom

Me work in dangote's company? Ahhhhh see insult na

Most of them could have left there if not because of the bonds they signed na. Now they are free. They will go one by one

Dangote can spend more employing experienced Indians oooo, or training another batch, who will also join union and jakpa

Zionmdde:
Weed out the people he spent millions to train in India, and the people that have already gotten enough experience to get better jobs abroad

Do you even know why dangote made them sign bonds before their training? Man must be licking his wounds by now. I guess you have never reached the level of knowing what it takes to train staffs and lose them immediately

Some of the workers would still be called back to the refinery. But they will NEVER join PENGASSAN/NUPENG again with this experience. Unless the worker is a fool.
So Dangote has won.

Seems like a way for both parties to save face, although it does favour dangote more. No staff in the refinery will now dare to join pengassan with the fear of redeployment, most likely to a less enviable environment and dangote can quietly lay off the concerned staff at a future date, if he wishes to do so, without much uproar.

Zionmdde:
Some of them could have left earlier if not for the bond they signed. Now dangote frees them from that bond, they will go with all the training and experience and guess what? Lots of refineries abroad can't wait to have them. Imagine their salary compared to dangote 300k

Summary: dangote spent millions of dollars to train them for other companies

Who lose?

They will be 3rd class citizens wherever they find themselves earning far less than their colleagues

That's if they are luck to even get the job in these times when countries are locking up opportunities against foreigners.

mikeapollo:
Some of the workers would still be called back to the refinery. But they will NEVER join PENGASSAN/NUPENG again with this experience. Unless the worker is a fool.
So Dangote has won.

most of those workers with training in india and 5 years experience in a world class refinery won't go back to work for 300k oooo. What happened to UAE, Saudi Aramco and the rest

Dangote has given them free transfer.

Zionmdde:
Me work in dangote's company? Ahhhhh see insult na

Most of them could have left there if not because of the bonds they signed na. Now they are free. They will go one by one

Dangote can spend more employing experienced Indians oooo, or training another batch, who will also join union and jakpa

But he sacked them earlier and they were asking/protesting for their jobs back, if it's that easy to move to another place, do you think they'd have gone to this length to get their jobs back? You're talking of bonds, if an employer terminates your employment, that nullifies any bond you have with him, so I'm not sure how a bond held them back after dangote sacked them

Anfieldboss:
I don't think any of those 800 employees earns upto 800k....you can do your research, Dangote pays poorly....this is mainly because his companies are runned by indians.

For me to quote figure know I know it 800k gross for Management trainees
650 k ET
They are also feed and rotated across unit
With ongoing training by UK trainers with the Certificate they can work anyway in the world
Letter is from Dangote refinery n
Dangote project 380k +HMO + OT

They Bleep up big time
Now they no more oil workers
They could have used the UK certification to get Job in other Oil companies easy
Even is strong head and Aluta
BUA refinery is upcoming
Saving to Japa is there
IOC
You throw away all this prospect for useless corrupt Pengasan Nupeng PTD Unions of old men

franugo:
But he sacked them earlier and they were asking/protesting for their jobs back, if it's that easy to move to another place, do you think they'd have gone to this length to get their jobs back? You're talking of bonds, if an employer terminates your employment, that nullifies any bond you have with him, so I'm not sure how a bond held them back after dangote sacked them

They were not protesting rather pengassan was making a statement. If they were easily dispensible then why did he make them sign bonds.
Or did you see any of the sacked workers in the street protesting? Those guys are easily employable finished products for IOCs and oversees companies

Think wide

MuchAdo:
They will be 3rd class citizens wherever they find themselves earning far less than their colleagues

That's if they are luck to even get the job in these times when countries are locking up opportunities against foreigners.

in Saudi Arabia or UAE earning less than 300k?
Na wa ooo
Fear God
Experienced Nigerians are getting jobs daily in middle east oil and gas. Na u wan go there without nothing to offer them

Zionmdde:
With the knowledge and training those guys have, they will be hot cakes in middle east and some parts of Africa. Actually they were freed from the bonds they signed because of the money spent on them

They are hot cake in the labour market as a matter of fact most of them have gotten better paying jobs and none will accept to be redeployed to Dangotes subsidiaries in Taraba, Zambia and Uganda

Zionmdde:
in Saudi Arabia or UAE earning less than 300k?
Na wa ooo
Fear God
Experienced Nigerians are getting jobs daily in middle east oil and gas. Na u wan go there without nothing to offer them

They would have since left if it was that easy. For every lucky one, there are several unlucky ones.

emmanuelewumi:
They are hot cake in the labour market as a matter of fact most of them have gotten better paying jobs and none will accept to be redeployed to Dangotes subsidiaries in Taraba, Zambia and Uganda

Leave those people who think that the world revolves around dangote 300k job
Most of the signed bonds and that's what's keeping them there

Imagine an engineer, trained in india, part of the refinery design and commissioning, a world class refinery for that matter. Looking for job, na wa ooooo

Gotocourt:
Off course with lower salaries, as refinery workers goes home with fat monthly check

Pls which refinery workers go home with fat monthly check?

MuchAdo:
They would have since left if it was that easy. For every lucky one, there are several unlucky ones.

Oga don't you understand
Before their training they signed some years bond they will not leave. You think they will be easy to replace and dangote gave them.that bond to sign

On the other magine you compressor expert working in rice mill and you are still paying him.exactly the same salary at the same time spending millions to train another one. Who will loose?

Educationalserv:
For me to quote figure know I know it 800k gross for Management trainees
650 k ET
They are also feed and rotated across unit
With ongoing training by UK trainers with the Certificate they can work anyway in the world
Letter is from Dangote refinery n
Dangote project 380k +HMO + OT

They Bleep up big time
Now they no more oil workers
They could have used the UK certification to get Job in other Oil companies easy
Even is strong head and Aluta
BUA refinery is upcoming
Saving to Japa is there
IOC
You throw away all this prospect for useless corrupt Pengasan Nupeng PTD Unions of old men

I still don't believe....I have former colleagues that worked there, they have all left. Nobody I know worked in Dangote Refinery that spoke well of the place, unless THINGS HAVE CHANGED THERE OVERNIGHT, which I seriously doubt. Indians I know don't treat their employees well.

you dont understand. The Indians are benefitting so they will not complain.

the history behind the behaviour is the British when they colonise Africans, they bring Indian labourers to work on the plantations because the British hated the locals.
That's the behavior you are seeing. There is nothing wrong if you employ few expatriates, but when you bring thousands of them to replace sacked Nigerians, it means you no mean well for Nigeria.

emirate9:
Are the indians or chinese complaining Dangote is colonizing or enslaving them ... remember they enter plane come naija by themselves

Zionmdde:
most of those workers with training in india and 5 years experience in a world class refinery won't go back to work for 300k oooo. What happened to UAE, Saudi Aramco and the rest

Dangote has given them free transfer.

Yes, but definitely not all of them. Some may not even have enough practical experience because Dangote refinery is still very young.
And I don't believe people were trained in India and they are being paid 300k as salary in Nigeria. That is not possible..

you dont understand. The Indians are benefitting so they will not complain.

the history behind the behaviour is the British when they colonise Africans, they bring Indian labourers to work on the plantations because the British hated the locals.
That's the behavior you are seeing. There is nothing wrong if you employ few expatriates, but when you bring thousands of them to replace sacked Nigerians, it means you no mean well for Nigeria.

emirate9:
Are the indians or chinese complaining Dangote is colonizing or enslaving them ... remember they enter plane come naija by themselves

they did not fail.
Dangote refinery is rehiring the sacked workers.
but i think it's a plan to sack them later when things die down

MuchAdo:
I mean the Unions have failed...

flokii:
Redeploy the sacked Nigerians to non-existent positions in the other companies under Dangote group while he employs the 2,000 Indians to start work in his refinery..

Nigeria which way?.. where are we heading to in this country??

Redundancy will kill them wherever they are redeployed to and they will be frustrated out. That's what they'll see.

Mark my word, they'll still be sacked when reorganization happens in their new company. Next time they'll not join Union and it'll be a lesson to the incoming ones.