₦airaland Forum

Zionmdde:
Maybe you have refused to see the bigger picture of employers sacking employees at will without consequences

So when it comes to dangote, we should see the bigger picture? GTB sacked staff in August, nothing happened. Another bank also did same in September, nothing happened. Why is dangote's own an issue? I don't like people being laid off but it's not a crime.

EponObi:
Ọmọ! You go fear crème de la crème of conflict resolution. Tinubu has no rival in this aspect.

Absolute respect.

Top respect to Dangote for standing his ground. He won! Those workers that want to unionize are out of his refinery, plugged into other companies within the Dangote group - out of the oil and gas industry entirely. There will be no PENGASSAN BS to join. If they are unlucky, they will be deployed to unfavorable locations.

On the other hand, Dangote gets to employ new workers for his refinery. I'm sure the new workers will sign an undertaking.

PENGASSAN calls off the strike. They protected workers' job - a small win. They failed to establish control in Dangote Refinery - a big loss - na the main thing wey dey want be that. They will try again though. Make dem go build their own refinery na if body dey scratch them. Selfish folks. Food don done, you bring spoon to come chop; shey na your ancestors build the refinery?

This is a big win for Nigeria. Business continue as usual.

God bless President Bola Ahmed Tinubu
God bless Dr. Mohammed Maigari Dingyadi
God bless Dangote Refinery
God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria


Emergency lovers of Nigeria can choke on their tears 😭😭😭

Good that PENGASSAN realised they were just a few hours to becoming history. This is one call for strike too many. If you cripple DR today our economy could nosedive and Naira will go into another free fall. Very few Nigerians will queue behind the union on this issue. Just for 800 workers who decide to join a union, we want to throw millions into more hardship? Yes, DR is aggressive on making more profits but has he stopped anyone from building their own refineries? Don't blame Dangote for our collective shame as a nation. For 50 years we couldn't make good of our natural resources. That's a shame.

franugo:
So when it comes to dangote, we should see the bigger picture? GTB sacked staff in August, nothing happened. Another bank also did same in September, nothing happened. Why is dangote's own an issue? I don't like people being laid off but it's not a crime.

The Law is the law
Pengassan chose to remind dangote of the law
Or is there any other law u know?

Zionmdde:
The Law is the law
Pengassan chose to remind dangote of the law
Or is there any other law u know?

There's a law against a private employer laying off staff? Yet they do it almost daily, are you sure about this? Can you pls point me to the paragraph in the labor law?

franugo:
There's a law against a private employer laying off staff? Yet they do it almost daily, are you sure about this? Can you pls point me to the paragraph in the labor law?

Go and read the law about victimizing staff because they willingly joined union. Google is your friend

Zionmdde:
Go and read the law about victimizing staff because they willingly joined union. Google is your friend

I was almost confused for a minute there thinking you said there's a law against private employers laying off workers.
Laying off staff for joining a union is against the law as you rightly stated, but dangote circumvented this by releasing a memo that the layoffs are part of a reorganization move in the company. There's no official documentation that states that the layoffs were due to unionization, even if we know it's most likely because of it. The law deals on facts, not intuition or emotion, and the fact is dangote is a private employer and is therefore entitled to layoff staff for reorganization as he claimed in the memo.

Educationalserv:
the I Indians are employees not shareholders or owners it not a Indian owned company they are also employee
You friends all left cos they where not real Dangote refinery staffs .they should show you there offer it doesn't carry Dangote refinery
This 800 are the first batch with refinery direct offer
Other are project staff which is contract for construction not running
Many are vendor staffs and work has completed so they left
Refinery is automated need around 3k workers
Not the10000 during construction

They were not contract staff. They were recruited as Executive Trainees (ETs) in 2018 and was sent to India for 6 months before returning back to Naija. Mind you all of them have Masters in Engineering as that was the requirement for ETs back then. They were later absorbed as Full time employees on completion of their trainee programs but their offers were not great as you're trying to portray.

The last of them left Dangote few months ago and joined an indigenous oil servicing company and he is doing well.

The indians are not mere employees, Dangote entrusted his companies to them to help him run them for reasons best known to him. They are senior management and even in the company's board. THEY MAKE KEY DECISIONS FOR DANGOTE'S BUSINESSES.

If you are conversant with agency theory, you will know that the owners of large companies are different from the management that run them on a daily basis.

Anfieldboss:
They were not contract staff. They were recruited as Executive Trainees (ETs) in 2018 and was sent to India for 6 months before returning back to Naija. Mind you all of them have Masters in Engineering as that was the requirement for ETs back then. They were later absorbed as Full time employees on completion of their trainee programs but their offers were not great as you're trying to portray.

The last of them left Dangote few months ago and joined an indigenous oil servicing company and he is doing well.

The indians are not mere employees, Dangote entrusted his companies to them to help him run them for reasons best known to him. They are senior management and even in the company's board. THEY MAKE KEY DECISIONS FOR DANGOTE'S BUSINESSES.

If you are conversant with agency theory, you will know that the owners of large companies are different from the management that run them on a daily basis.

You are contradicting your self . Indians are not employees but entrusted to run the company
Are employees not supposed to run a company for the shareholders.
Majority of the Sack workers are not the ET but MT recently headhunted by the company .
They are not even confirmed staff and are still under CSR department they earn higher pay temporary

DaddyJapan:
With compatriots like you, the welfare of workers will never be truly assured in Nigeria.

Here are a couple of posts from those who did a bit more digging (source: FB).

O. Aligwekwe writes:



I.Harande writes

Seems you don't know those union leaders are the real cabals. Infact most skilled worker union leaders have that mentality

franugo:
I was almost confused for a minute there thinking you said there's a law against private employers laying off workers.
Laying off staff for joining a union is against the law as you rightly stated, but dangote circumvented this by releasing a memo that the layoffs are part of a reorganization move in the company. There's no official documentation that states that the layoffs were due to unionization, even if we know it's most likely because of it. The law deals on facts, not intuition or emotion, and the fact is dangote is a private employer and is therefore entitled to layoff staff for reorganization as he claimed in the memo.

OK sacking workers because of union is illegal and dangote circumvented the law and you support it. Well done
What is injustice again?
Today may be the workers ' turn, tomorrow somebody may circumvent the law to your disadvantage

flokii:
Redeploy the sacked Nigerians to non-existent positions in the other companies under Dangote group while he employs the 2,000 Indians to start work in his refinery..

Nigeria which way?.. where are we heading to in this country??

Exactly what the people wanted needed! The oil union claimed he sacked them, right? So, he has re-employed them. Case closed. Or do you want to go dictate to him where he posts them within his own organization?

xtivin:
They will eventually find a way to sack them gradually through witch hunting. The truth remains Dangote has power to hire and fire simple

Some emergency lovers of the 800 workers have said he can only hire but lack the power to fire!

Their plans have been thwarted. What the expected isn't what they got.

The leg that walks zigzag is seen by the eyes that sees zigzag!

It's a win win for both sides 😂😂. Sacked workers reinstated, strike suspended! Case closed!!!

Zionmdde:
OK sacking workers because of union is illegal and dangote circumvented the law and you support it. Well done
What is injustice again?
Today may be the workers ' turn, tomorrow somebody may circumvent the law to your disadvantage

You're bringing emotions into it this is a business not a Kdrama series.

franugo:
You're bringing emotions into it this is a business not a Kdrama series.

Emotions kwa
You said somebody circumvented the law and it's emotions to you

Na it's not Kdrama the police do that all the time on the road, and if circumventing the law is good for you sha don't complain when they use it on you

franugo:
So when it comes to dangote, we should see the bigger picture? GTB sacked staff in August, nothing happened. Another bank also did same in September, nothing happened. Why is dangote's own an issue? I don't like people being laid off but it's not a crime.

Those who were sacked in the banks were they part of any Unions associated with bankers?

Don't come out to say what you have no idea of other than what you read on the chalkboard.


Laying people off is not a crime but there are procedures. That is why people don't agree to jungle justice when a thief is caught but many of your likes speaking for Dangote are acting out patterns of jungle justice.

Zionmdde:
They were trained in india, obtained international certifications, worked in one of the biggest refineries in Africa.
Find out how many refineries are in the world

you Gerrit?
If you don't Gerrit forgerrit

Let them go international to apply then,if it is so easy.

emmy4real94:
Only for a few months Cox they wil eventually lay them off after a while.. They better look for other jobs now b4 being fired again

💯 Aje seh you no lie

parags:
I can tell you that no company will keep staff that has the tendency to disrupt business or demotivate other staff . Whereever they send them , traps will be laid . Lateness , insubordination, downsizing etc. They are goners.

Maybe much later on, buh paying them salary is a convenient "loss" for dangote .. he won't mind retaining them cos its good for his image ... let the sleeping dog lie

frog12:
you dont understand. The Indians are benefitting so they will not complain.

the history behind the behaviour is the British when they colonise Africans, they bring Indian labourers to work on the plantations because the British hated the locals.
That's the behavior you are seeing. There is nothing wrong if you employ few expatriates, but when you bring thousands of them to replace sacked Nigerians, it means you no mean well for Nigeria.

If you mean the indians are well paid, its normal i have being to dangote cement at ilaro ... the indians handle managerial positions and lets be honest this guyz do excellent job more than Nigerians that are always praying ise kekere owo nla i.e small work big earnings. Indians are top managers

However expatriate ratio to indigenes dangote factory is within limits if not why have they not taken him to court,

You guyz wont gaslight us with these indigeneous crap ... Dangote is the most efficient manufacturer in All brands he specializes On cos he has a formula .. if he believes indian n chinese it works for him we cant dictate to him and i will never advise him to rely on Nigerians.

flokii:
Redeploy the sacked Nigerians to non-existent positions in the other companies under Dangote group while he employs the 2,000 Indians to start work in his refinery..

Nigeria which way?.. where are we heading to in this country??

Your attitudes . A private sector like Dangote Revinary can not risk his investment in the name of " my country" the day Nigerians Chang their attitude to work ,loyalty and ownership mentality in a positive way the day they can be welcome in all areas of field .