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| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by AntiisIam(m): 1:22pm On Sep 28, 2025 |
Expanse2020:I told you that Eastern Orthodox Church claimed Lazarus later fled to Cyprus, became the first Bishop of Kition, and died in that role, around the age of sixty. Everything can't be recorded in the Bible, is like asking me to show where everyone that dy-ed then was recorded in Bible Expanse2020:Nobody is bearing Mendez in Bible but there is possibility that someone bearing dis name might existed in those days Expanse2020:The name of the man who was revived by touching Elisha's bones in 2 Kings 13:21 is not mentioned in the text. The Bible simply refers to him as "the man", highlighting that his revival was a significant miracle of God, rather than focusing on his personal identity. Expanse2020:You were been told that Biblical account in Genesis states that Enoch did not die but was taken by God after living 365 years. Expanse2020:All your questions were answered even before now but you lack comprehensive ability |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by Expanse2020(m): 1:39pm On Sep 28, 2025 |
AntiisIam:Note Not only Jesus died Not only him resurrected And not only him still alive Alaye rest and stop defensing lie |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by AntiisIam(m): 4:17pm On Sep 28, 2025 |
Expanse2020:If you obey the commandment of allah in Quran 10:94, you won't arguing bli* ndly Quran 10:94 Irving & Mohamed Hegab If you are in any doubt concerning what We have sent down to you, then question those who have read the Book (Bible) before you: Truth has come to you from your Lord, so do not be a waverer; Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. ONLY Jesus Christ dyed, resurrected and alive till everlasting. No one ever dyed, resurrected an alive till today. NOTE, dyed, resurrected and alive Bobo, ask nkan ti ko ba ye e that is what allah told you |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by Expanse2020(m): 6:32am On Sep 29, 2025 |
AntiisIam:I also proved to you not only him died, resurrected and not only him still alive |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by Antiislaam(m): 8:15am On Sep 29, 2025 |
Expanse2020:Enoch never taste deth, only Jesus Christ tasted deth, he resurrected on the third day and alive till everlasting Mention anyone that's alive today and ask if the person had tasted deth before |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by Antiislaam(m): 8:16am On Sep 29, 2025 |
Expanse2020:Who is that? Who died and resurrected that you proved to me? |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by Expanse2020(m): 11:13am On Sep 29, 2025 |
Antiislaam:Lazarus died and resurrected Elisha bone resurrected some men that died Zendesk Mendez doesn't have beginning, doesn't die Knock still alive. Elijah still alive Not only Jesus alive according to the bible naw |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by Expanse2020(m): 11:15am On Sep 29, 2025 |
Antiislaam:Lazarus taste death and alive because no evidence from bible that they died again Those men Elijah bones resurrected taste death and no evidence from the bible that they died again |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by AntiisIam(m): 6:46pm On Oct 02, 2025 |
Expanse2020:Your reasoning self na something Are you expecting Bible to record everyone on earth in those day their birth date and date of death? AGAIN READ SLOWLY: Eastern Orthodox Church claimed Lazarus later fled to Cyprus, became the first Bishop of Kition, and died in that role, around the age of sixty. Everything can't be recorded in the Bible, is like asking me to show where everyone that dy-ed then was recorded in Bible ONLY JESUS CHRIST TASTES DEATH, RESURRECTED, ALIVE FOREVER AND EVER because he is the Alfa and Omega the beginning and the end.. |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by Expanse2020(m): 1:16pm On Oct 04, 2025 |
AntiisIam:Did you hear yourself Bible itself lack credibility talkless of Eastern Orthodox....🤣🤣🤣 They record his resurrection but not his whereabout and death |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by oridavid(op): 9:53am On Oct 12, 2025 |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:01am On Oct 12, 2025 |
Expanse2020:The Bible is not your book where each of you have to go asking your imam how to explain simple things. The Bible says: For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned— Romans 5:12 As regards going to heaven Jesus said: Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but the one who descended from heaven, the Son of man. John 3:13 I believe by now you should be able to figure out what happened to Enoch yourself! |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:09am On Oct 12, 2025 |
oridavid:Enoch is sleeping in death. In Bible book of Revelations here is what we found: And the SEA gave up the dead in it, and DEATH and the GRAVE gave up the dead in them, and they were judged individually according to their deeds. Revelations 20:13 From where will resurrected ones come? SEA: Those drowned or eaten by fish. DEATH: Anyone who is no more alive. GRAVE: Those buried. So Enoch is DEAD because the Bible never recorded his death doesn't mean he goes to heaven Jesus has debunked that idea! John 3:13 |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by oridavid(op): 1:49pm On Oct 12, 2025 |
You're free to go and argue with the Bible because the Bible says in a few places that Enoch didn't die. If you have a problem, go and rewrite the Bible, please. MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:42pm On Oct 12, 2025 |
oridavid:There is no verse in the entire Bible that says this rather what the scriptures said is Enoch didn't see death which totally differs from what you typed. Someone didn't die means he is still alive but someone didn't see death means he never experienced death as in growing old or facing sickness that could kill him or being murdered!🙂 |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:02pm On Oct 12, 2025 |
Expanse2020:Now you are tackling them for real because only Jesus is alive after living as human all others are sleeping in death. According to God's word through Adam death spread to all men {Romans 5:12} so whether they naturally grow old, get sick and die or murdered they must die so Enoch can't be alive otherwise the scriptures that says all have inherited sin from Adam and the one that says only Jesus is alive including where Jesus said no man has gone to heaven before him will all be rendered invalid if Enoch is not dead!🙂 |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by Expanse2020(m): 6:48pm On Oct 12, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:SO BIBLE WAS LYING WHEN HE SAID ENOCH WHEN TO HEAVEN SO ITS A LIE THAT ELIJAH WHEN TO HEAVEN TO .... THE BIBLE WAS LYING NOBODY HAD GONE TO HEAVEN BEFORE JESUS.... That why we all need to be questioning the author of the bible with misfed and information and confusion in the bible.... Antiislam |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by Expanse2020(m): 6:51pm On Oct 12, 2025 |
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=137098098]The Bible is not your book where each of you have to go asking your imam how to explain simple things. The Bible says: For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned— Romans 5:12 As regards going to heaven Jesus said: Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but the one who descended from heaven, the Son of man. John 3:13 So where is did Enoch go |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by AntiisIam(m): 9:11pm On Oct 12, 2025 |
Expanse2020:I don't understand what you tagged Anti.islam for |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 9:43pm On Oct 12, 2025 |
oridavid:1. The original entry on Enoch in Genesis did not state that he did not die, but rather that Enoch was taken by Elohim. As for what the writer of the book of Hebrew meant when he asserted that Enoch did not die, only he knows, since the passages he supposedly referenced in Scripture never in fact state that Enoch died, and it certainly does not suggest that Heaven was an end goal for the dead of that time. ![]() 2. But the writer of John never said anything about Enoch, or even Elijah after him, having ascended into a place called Heaven. So, why do you introduce the mention of heaven at this point? ![]() |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 9:49pm On Oct 12, 2025*. Modified: 10:15pm On Oct 12, 2025 |
oridavid:No verse says Enoch was taken to Heaven. Rather, the writer of Hebrews posits that because it was written that Enoch was carried off by the Elohim, it means Enoch did not die. That alone reads like a view on what was written, not a factual statement made of what was revealed by the Elohim Himself, who supposedly took Enoch. It is similar to the view also presented by the writer of Hebrews on the priest to whom Abraham gave a 10th of his bounty on his way back from battle in appreciation for receiving bread and wine. ![]() |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:12pm On Oct 12, 2025 |
Try to behave maturely my guy if Islam is truly a meaningful religion you should at least reason intelligently. There is no verse that says Enoch or Elijah went to heaven the Bible says the chariot that carried Elijah went to heaven so use your initiative to imagine what an ancient observer who has never seen an aeroplane will say the first time he notice a vessel carry someone and fly into the sky. ![]() Expanse2020: |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by oridavid(op): 6:46pm On Oct 13, 2025 |
Kindly reach what I wrote again. It appears you didn't understand it properly. Kobojunkie: |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by oridavid(op): 6:48pm On Oct 13, 2025 |
This is incorrect. Even from Genesis it was seen that Enoch didn't die. God took him from among humans. MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:13pm On Oct 13, 2025 |
oridavid:That's the point! God took his life before his time. God removed him from the generation of hurtful people where he was preaching what wasn't appealing to any of them not that he was taken to heaven that idea was nullified by Jesus when he said no man has ascended to heaven! John 3:13 You people often cause confusion for yourselves by expecting everything to be told word for word when you can easily read through the lines! ![]() |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 8:14pm On Oct 13, 2025 |
oridavid:I did hence the questions I had there for you of what you wrote. ![]() |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:39pm On Oct 13, 2025 |
The same thing happened to Moses but God declared to the Israelites that Moses is dead: After that Moses the servant of Jehovah died there in the land of Moʹab just as Jehovah had said. He buried him in the valley in the land of Moʹab, opposite Beth-peʹor, and nobody knows where his grave is down to this day. Deuteronomy 34:5-6 WHY must Moses's case be announced? He is a man of the people who relied on him so much that they have to mourn him for thirsty days {Deuteronomy 34:8} even though they never saw his dead body. So why mourn a man whose corpse they never saw? Satan wanted to use one demon to copy Moses's appearance in order to continue appearing to the Israelites as if Moses is still alive somewhere or his spirit or soul is walking about. So when angels were sent to bury his body Satan wanted to drag with them as himself or any demon couldn't photocopy Moses's body then Michael (Jesus) had to drive Satan away from the scene! Jude 9 So if Joshua wasn't sent to declare Moses dead but say "God has taken him" you people will still say he went to heaven even after reading what Jesus who lived in heaven said that no human has been there before! John 3:13🤔 |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by oridavid(op): 11:03am On Oct 14, 2025 |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by oridavid(op): 11:06am On Oct 14, 2025 |
STOP jumping into conclusions, my friend God took him as a person and not his life. Enoch was still on earth but not among humans because he was taken back to Eden. You can watch this episode of shifting Perspective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxAU5MW5KZw MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:46am On Oct 14, 2025 |
oridavid:Can you quote the highlighted in the Bible? Remember all descendants of Adam are SINNERS {Romans 5:12} and Eden is where God's glory shines of which no descendant of Adam qualifies to be! Romans 3:23 So if God drove away Adam from Eden how do you think any of Adam's children could be there before Christ came to offer the ultimate sacrifice? You ignored God's word only to believe what another man told you over God's inspired word!🙂 |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by oridavid(op): 1:04pm On Oct 14, 2025 |
Go and watch the video and stop disparaging what you don't know. MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Did Enoch Die? Or Was He Taken To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:22pm On Oct 14, 2025 |
oridavid:So the video is valid more than God's own word inspired through holy spirit?🙂 |
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