₦airaland Forum

BlueRayDick:
According to ChatGpt, below are the estimate figures for both Jonathan and Buhari's tenures. The figures are for reported deaths ocassioned by Banditary, terrorism, communal violence, etc

ChatGPT gave source of their data o (before somebody will say ChatGpt is not accurate source of data)

PS: The data for Jonathan's tenure spans 5 year period while Buhari's covers the entire 8 years period..

That’s a 4 year period for Jonathan according to what you quoted. 2011-2015.

Your stat is showing more people died per year under Jonathan than under Buhari.

This debate na dead on arrival sha. Nigerians comparing which president was worse while there are countries on this earth that are comparing which president was better.

Chief check my statement from beginning I never gave Buhari a pass mark on overall security.

I said specifically focusing strictly on Boko Haram things improved relatively compared to GEJ.

In my initial post I again said PMB's failure regarding banditry, herdsmen, and IPOB overshadowed whatever small progress he recorded dealing with Boko Haram.

Segedinho:
What are u trying to say bros

Boko boys..herdsmen..iswap,unknown gunmen and whatever are primarily to kill and destroy Nigerians

If Boko was reduced and many others were created,what then are u trying to justify?

Nigerian was much better (security-wise)when it was only Boko boys sir

This is Shettima's state but he went to UN and Gaza was his problem

TemporaryHansel:
Y'all Obi supporters need to be realistic. Unless what happened in Nepal is replicated in Nigeria, there's no way there won't be vote buying in a primary election.
Even if there's no vote buying in the primary, you guys believe Tinubu won't buy votes in the general election?
As it stands, the only way Peter Obi can become any party's flag bearer is if they dash him the ticket. His supporters are already making excuses for him because they know he cannot contest and win a primary election with his mates.

If Peter Obi is really serious, he should fight these politicians with their own tools, then reform the system when he gets in.

The bolded combined is the realisation you want me to accept. But it is that abnormality and rascality that Peter Obi and his supporters are against. That has to stop and someone has to stop it. And in fact all of us should support that person.

Segedinho:
The oba will likely chicken out due to his politically induced sense of judgement.

His utterances are disregarded by community chairmen let alone BuBu pikin.

I hope he does something about it to regain the power of his utterances..


Bini markets have ancestry history and should be upheld and oversee by the Oba himself...

This is the video on how they have been installed and the woman speaking has been the iyeki just b4 the nons3ns3 by Bubu pikin/Okpebholo

Original Iyeki of Ogiso markets narrates how she became Iyeki and the problem they are facing now … pic.twitter.com/1n0Y6REdKt

— IZZY OMORUYI (@izzyomoruyi) October 3, 2025

Tataffo said Benin kings are powerful without political influence
Let's hope he won't succumb

TemporaryHansel:
You guys are clearly not serious.

We should be serious about rigging elections? Nigeria has happened to you 😂

When talking overall security the data is clear that PMB is worse. I'm looking at it from how Boko Haram situation got better slightly.

Read my posts from earlier today you will see where I'm coming from.

monerozi5590:
Nah! Interpret that data very well and you will see clearly.

GEJ....4 years, 34,972 killed
PMB....8 years, 63,111 killed.

I get you clearly I'm not down playing the fact that overall security wise PMB was worse.

I'm just saying (like you admitted in your fourth paragraph below) that Buhari handled the Boko Haram insurgency more stringently than his predecessor even though results were not completely successful.

BlueRayDick:
No I don't.

What we are saying is there was problem in the North East when Jonathan was president and he was kicked out because he couldn't solve that security problem...

Buhari campaigned on the premise he would solve that north east insecurity problem and didn't mention there will be banditary problem in the north west and that the middle belt/north central's fulani herdsmen/farmers crises will take the turn it took. Neither were we prepared for the southeast becoming a security Flashpoint.

All of the aforementioned security problems joined the unresolved boko Haram issue. (Yes I can agree boko Haram was Pounded for a while under Buhari but they were never completely disarmed)

You may not understand Sha, but for someone like me who was in the northwest and could be reassuring people down south that the north west was safe back then when everyone was assuming there's no difference between north east with boko Haram issue and the peaceful north west ; it breaks my heart to see that almost all of northwest has been ravaged by Banditary and terrorism. That time when someone serving in Niger can just decide to go visit a friend serving in Kebbi, Sokoto or Zamfara without fear of kidnap. Chai!

afrodoc:
That’s a 4 year period for Jonathan according to what you quoted. 2011-2015.

Your stat is showing more people died per year under Jonathan than under Buhari.

This debate na dead on arrival sha. Nigerians comparing which president was worse while there are countries on this earth that are comparing which president was better.

The point is Buhari didn't do anything significantly better than Jonathan to justify how Jonathan's administration has been chastised as it was uo till date. Remember Buhari was elected to make things better but that never happened considering the data. We shouldn't forget there was censorship of media at some point under Buhari.

That being said, I completely agree that it's a shame we are comparing worse president's when we should be comparing the best. It's unfortunate the situation we found ourselves.

chrisooblog:
When talking overall security the data is clear that PMB is worse. I'm looking at it from how Boko Haram situation got better slightly.

Read my posts from earlier today you will see where I'm coming from.

I can even take it down to the number of deaths per year. Take it down and you will see that the number killed under GEJ is higher than PMB.

afrodoc:
That’s a 4 year period for Jonathan according to what you quoted. 2011-2015.

Your stat is showing more people died per year under Jonathan than under Buhari.

This debate na dead on arrival sha. Nigerians comparing which president was worse while there are countries on this earth that are comparing which president was better.

I didn't even see this. My point also.

chrisooblog:
Chief check my statement from beginning I never gave Buhari a pass mark on overall security.

I said specifically focusing strictly on Boko Haram things improved relatively compared to GEJ.

In my initial post I again said PMB's failure regarding banditry, herdsmen, and IPOB overshadowed whatever small progress he recorded dealing with Boko Haram.

Ok then

BlueRayDick:
The point is Buhari didn't do anything significantly better than Jonathan to justify how Jonathan's administration has been chastised as it was uo till date. Remember Buhari was elected to make things better but that never happened considering the data. We shouldn't forget there was censorship of media at some point under Buhari.

That being said, I completely agree that it's a shame we are comparing worse president's when we should be comparing the best. It's unfortunate the situation we found ourselves.

See how we are comparing thousands killed violently yearly like we are talking about fish.

I think Buhari’s government has been chastised as well. One should not use one as justification to defend the other.

They all deserve to be criticised. They all failed the people and failed in their duty.

Even OBJ that was a major beneficiary of the new democratic dispensation and spent the last 4 years of his tenure trying to truncate the process, which he successfully did by imposing a terminally ill man on us when he couldn’t have his wish of a 3rd term.

Ellexy:
This is Shettima's state but he went to UN and Gaza was his problem

Thats why I support any western press staying on the case of insecurity in Nigeria

We cant be ignoring people getting killed in our villages while we look at far away Gaza to preach peace

“We are the ones that escort politicians after they støle public money, we follow them to hide the money in their villages. Now, to pay us our entitlement is an issue."

~ Retired DSP expresses pain over unpaid wages

pic.twitter.com/YIvSBqMowo

— Nigeria Stories (@NigeriaStories) October 4, 2025

How I wn take pity this kain police retiree?Them use you escort stolen funds finish, leave you empty handed lol

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Segedinho:
Gbam.

Bur remember,she can be removed when the water has settled and everyone has 100% gone mute about it and a yoruba woman installed. The nitty gritty is she is answerable to Bats daughter


There is an adage that says ...witches knows nothing about u except and inside info.

My grouse is how is it possible for someone as far as lagos coming down to Benin to install and crown a market leader as against the normal way it has been done and both the Oba and the Edolites couldn't object.

Even disobey the Oba’s words

Pastor Josephine is actually Esan, not Benin, and they had the inauguration before going to the Oba’s palace. Also Benin market women have been protesting that move since last year.

CrystalTiger:

“We are the ones that escort politicians after they støle public money, we follow them to hide the money in their villages. Now, to pay us our entitlement is an issue."

~ Retired DSP expresses pain over unpaid wages

pic.twitter.com/YIvSBqMowo

— Nigeria Stories (@NigeriaStories) October 4, 2025

How I wn take pity this kain police retiree?Them use you escort stolen funds finish, leave you empty handed lol

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

But like if you know where the money is hidden you can always steal it back

Isn't that what treasure heist movies are about?

CrystalTiger:

“We are the ones that escort politicians after they støle public money, we follow them to hide the money in their villages. Now, to pay us our entitlement is an issue."

~ Retired DSP expresses pain over unpaid wages

pic.twitter.com/YIvSBqMowo

— Nigeria Stories (@NigeriaStories) October 4, 2025

How I wn take pity this kain police retiree?Them use you escort stolen funds finish, leave you empty handed lol

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Realistically what options do the officers have when assigned these type of tasks

Or let me ask if you were in their shoes and assigned that task what will you do

GloriousGbola:
But like if you know where the money is hidden you can always steal it back

Isn't that what treasure heist movies are about?

Exactly why I'm laughing about his complain..

raumdeuter:
Realistically what options do the officers have when assigned these type of tasks

Or let me ask if you were in their shoes and assigned that task what will you do

So you believe the big man would start recounting the money?..It's like you didn't see videos of old monies brought out during that cashless nonsense

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/investigationspecial-reports/825701-exclusive-university-disowns-tinubu-ministers-degree-certificate.html?tztc=1

According to Premium times, the current minister for Innovation, science and technology Uche Nnaji is parading a fake university degree and fake NYSC discharge certificate.

Their investigation was through and there's no doubt the man was caught red handed.

We await what the decision of the FG will be on this

Segedinho:
The oba will likely chicken out due to his politically induced sense of judgement.

His utterances are disregarded by community chairmen let alone BuBu pikin.

I hope he does something about it to regain the power of his utterances..


Bini markets have ancestry history and should be upheld and oversee by the Oba himself...

This is the video on how they have been installed and the woman speaking has been the iyeki just b4 the nons3ns3 by Bubu pikin/Okpebholo

Original Iyeki of Ogiso markets narrates how she became Iyeki and the problem they are facing now … pic.twitter.com/1n0Y6REdKt

— IZZY OMORUYI (@izzyomoruyi) October 3, 2025

Forget the fact that she couldn’t even spell daughter correctly.

All through Buhari’s 8 years of misrule, none of his children ever sent letters to kings about appointing anybody.

Even going back to GEJ and OBJ, their kids never did anything like this. This is unprecedented. It’s absurd that she’s writing letters to leaders and claiming to be First Daughter of the President.

I’ve studied the Nigerian constitution all my life, from secondary school to uni, there is no such office. She has no right or power to be appointing market leaders in Edo State or sending strongly worded letters to the Oba.

I beg any sane person to read that letter she sent. That’s not normal.

Only in Nigeria will electorates vote for someone, and automatically the spouse and children start acting elected too. They begin issuing orders to officials as if they were the ones on the ballot. I remember when the wife of the immediate former Kano governor shut down an entire airport just because she didn’t want someone else to travel before her.

Have you ever heard of the UK Prime Minister’s wife or children giving orders to elected officials? In Nigeria, the President’s wife can order governors around, while governors’ wives dictate to commissioners. Total madness.

Call me a pessimist if you like, but I don’t think Nigeria is ready for state police. Those calling for it don’t understand the kind of chaos and violence it could unleash, it would be unlike anything we’ve seen before.

TemporaryHansel:
Forget the fact that she couldn’t even spell daughter correctly.

All through Buhari’s 8 years of misrule, none of his children ever sent letters to kings about appointing anybody.

Even going back to GEJ and OBJ, their kids never did anything like this. This is unprecedented. It’s absurd that she’s writing letters to leaders and claiming to be First Daughter of the President.

I’ve studied the Nigerian constitution all my life, from secondary school to uni, there is no such office. She has no right or power to be appointing market leaders in Edo State or sending strongly worded letters to the Oba.

I beg any sane person to read that letter she sent. That’s not normal.

Only in Nigeria will electorates vote for someone, and automatically the spouse and children start acting elected too. They begin issuing orders to officials as if they were the ones on the ballot. I remember when the wife of the immediate former Kano governor shut down an entire airport just because she didn’t want someone else to travel before her.

Have you ever heard of the UK Prime Minister’s wife or children giving orders to elected officials? In Nigeria, the President’s wife can order governors around, while governors’ wives dictate to commissioners. Total madness.

The man that saw tomorrow

liveLongNprospa:
The man that saw tomorrow

We are witnessing full blown state capture in real time.

iamoyindamola:
He's adjusted it
The first one was having high contrast the dark green was so visible
I always use Samsung Internet too even when I stopped using Samsung

Yeah very true, I noticed the adjustment

akwesenana:
Each mallam with their kettle, but I prefer the first. This nl own still dey pain my eye.

Your eye go dey used to am soon

CrystalTiger:
Exactly why I'm laughing about his complain..
So you believe the big man would start recounting the money?..It's like you didn't see videos of old monies brought out during that cashless nonsense

Most people in law enforcement just follow orders
They cant really disobey anything even if you are ordered to go attack your village you cannot refuse otherwise it has strict and severe repercussions

Them following politicians and doing the bud of politicians is not a choice for them they are mandated to

I think the NL dark mode is okay now, I love it.

GloriousGbola:
But like if you know where the money is hidden you can always steal it back

Isn't that what treasure heist movies are about?

I tire

liveLongNprospa:
The man that saw tomorrow

Everything i said about Tinubu on this board before the election has come to pass, i was not surprised by his power drunk action in River State or how his wife and kids are blowing state funds on frivolities. He is a dictator and a very corrupt person...