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Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by chieveboy(m): 10:01am On Oct 05, 2025

Just he a loving person.

What is not written in the Bible is information about heaven. For instance, there are Gazillions of levels in just the first heaven.

People go to the one their love Balance-Sheet matches with.

A person who is naturally angry and sad will gravitate to a matching heaven which has that emotions as it's signature.

There is not ojoro or favoritism when it comes to reality or the Ultimate God, like just making a statement before your die to accept x and x and then proceed to a heaven incompatible with your heart.

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by Jokerman(m): 10:02am On Oct 05, 2025

MaxInDHouse:
Heaven is not for humans earth is God's purpose for mankind! Psalms 115:16

And it's planet earth He promised to give all righteous people forever! Psalms 37:9-11, 29; Matthew 5:5

This will happen after the White throne judgement.

And to be qualified for the promised earth a person needs to be washed by the Blood Of Jesus and His righteousness

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by olabrad: 10:02am On Oct 05, 2025

AntiChristian:

Grace or works?

Abi na grace and works?

Too many wàhálà!

Too many wahala like ki.s.sing okuta and following a woli that sleep with boys!

Too many wahala like denying the death of Jesus Christ, an historically proven occurrence.

When someone you call your Olorun starts denying history, then that god is òpùró!

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:08am On Oct 05, 2025

Jokerman:
This will happen after the White throne judgement.
And to be qualified for the promised earth a person needs to be washed by the Blood Of Jesus and His righteousness

The point is heaven is not God's purpose for mankind.
Simple!

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by Kushites: 10:09am On Oct 05, 2025

SlavaUkraini:
Continue to dey play ▶️▶️▶️

Even your Ancestors are calling you to believe in Jesus Christ

Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life

No one comes to the Father except by him

You are just a robot regurgitating what was drummed into your head as a kid.

If you had been born in the middle of China you would be a BUDDHIST today, with zero knowledge of, or interest in 'Jesus'.

If you had been born in Saudi Arabia, ALL you would know and care about is Muhammed.

And God does not save his creation based on geographical "luck".

So No, your being born in a Christian invaded territory does not give you special qualification to heaven.

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Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by Jokerman(m): 10:12am On Oct 05, 2025

MaxInDHouse:
The point is heaven is not God's purpose for mankind.
Simple!

Yes... But before Jesus comes a 2nd time to the earth, believers who died before then, are and will rest in heaven ..... Pending the day of the Harpazo

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by Jokerman(m): 10:13am On Oct 05, 2025

Kushites:
You are just a robot regurgitating what was drummed into your head as a kid.

If you had been born in the middle of China you would be a BUDDHIST today, with zero knowledge of, or interest in 'Jesus'.

And God does not save his creation based on geographical "luck".

And who told you Chinese are not calling on the name oF Jesus? Or are Buddhist not turning to the saving power of Christ?

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by SlavaUkraini: 10:14am On Oct 05, 2025

Kushites:
You are just a robot regurgitating what was drummed into your head as a kid.

If you had been born in the middle of China you would be a BUDDHIST today, with zero knowledge of, or interest in 'Jesus'.

If you had been born in Saudi Arabia, ALL you would know and care about is Muhammed.

And God does not save his creation based on geographical "luck".

So No, your being born in a Christian invaded territory does not give you special qualification to heaven.

Continue to dey play ▶️▶️▶️

Jesus Christ remains the Way, the Truth and the Life

No one comes to the Father except by him

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by Lukuluku69(m): 10:15am On Oct 05, 2025*

SlavaUkraini:
Jesus is the way, the Truth and the Life...

No one comes to the Father, except by him

Stop typing like a bot.

What happens to those who lived and died before Christ came some 2,000 years ago?

Will they get a free pass to Heaven or they all lived in vain?

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Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by TenQ: 10:26am On Oct 05, 2025

AntiChristian:

Grace or works?

Abi na grace and works?

Too many wàhálà!

We are Saved Just by Grace and Only by Grace because of your FAITH in God and His work of Atonement for us
Eph 2:8-9
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

Works is only for REWARDs after Salvation

Mark 9:41
For whoever gives you a cup of water to drink because of your name as followers of Christ, truly I say to you, he will not lose his reward

1 Corinthians 3:14
If any man’s work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by omooba969(m): 10:26am On Oct 05, 2025

MrPresident1:
Is God the God of the dead or the living? Why should anyone see God after death rather than when they are alive? No one sees God at death, it is while alive that you see God

Don't you think when you make a claim, it has to be evidence-based?

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by fyneboi79(m): 10:30am On Oct 05, 2025

ebubeson:
Do you know singing, anointing, power, good preaching, prayers, good church, good pastor, positive confession, impact, evangelism, crying during worship, dancing like David danced, giving, having a good heart e.t.c, are good but cannot take you to heaven if you do not have holiness attached to it?

God may overlook certain things to bless you on earth, but He will never overlook holiness when it comes to you entering heaven.

Again, God makes holiness achievable if you hunger and thirst after righteousness. But many people are not so positively desperate for righteousness and holiness. Many are comfortable with nominal, worldly and compromising christianity. Matthew 5:6 "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled"

Hebrew 12:14 "Follow peace with all men, and holiness without which no man shall see the Lord"

"Slaves of existence"..wake up!!

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by TenQ: 10:39am On Oct 05, 2025

helinues:
You people are yet to tell us where this heaven and hell of a thing is located

They are not physical locations sir!

We have two states of existence
1. The Physical Universe
2. The Spiritual Universe
So, they are not physical locations but states of existence

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by helinues: 10:42am On Oct 05, 2025

TenQ:
They are not physical locations sir!

We have two states of existence
1. The Physical Universe
2. The Spiritual Universe
So, they are not physical locations but states of existence

Spiritual location like Milky way Galaxy, Andromeda Galaxy?

Of all the infinite planets that we have, why should planet earth be special

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by TenQ: 10:50am On Oct 05, 2025

Lukuluku69:
So, those that lived and died before Christ will not see Heaven according to this logic of yours?

Jesus took care of these ones too

1 Pet 3:19-20
He (Jesus) went and proclaimed God's salvation to earlier generations who ended up in the prison of judgment 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,

And to those who never heard the gospel , God judges them by their conscience and His Discretion. So, leave this realm to God's wisdom.

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by TenQ: 10:56am On Oct 05, 2025

helinues:
Spiritual location like Milky way Galaxy, Andromeda Galaxy?

Of all the infinite planets that we have, why should planet earth be special

The Milky way Galaxy, Andromeda Galaxy are all physical locations sir.

I don't know why Earth is just so special. All I know is that the confluence of several co-dependent system that keep us alive is statistically to much of a mere coincidence

Water Cycle
Carbon Cycle
Nitrogen Cycle
Life Cycle
Oxygen Cycle
etc

Life is the only existence that goes against the law of entropy.

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by bixton(m): 10:58am On Oct 05, 2025

helinues:
You people are yet to tell us where this heaven and hell of a thing is located

Whether you believe it or not is not the issue.

No one can be in both places.
We will all die someday and then whatever happens next is only known to the one who has died....
Funny enough the dead cannot come and tell where they are...

The last warning for that was told as a parable by Christ Jesus between the rich man and Lazarus. The rich man died and was buried but the poor man slept. The poor man was in the bosom of Abraham and the rich man was in a place of torment asking the poor man to give him water to quench his thirst......
Well the response he got wasn't what he intended to hear.
Just as it happened to the rich man so will it happen to anyone who refuses as accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour and such continue to walk in holiness and righteousness and have a right standing with God.

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by Kingosytex(m): 11:03am On Oct 05, 2025*

Jokerman:
And who told you Chinese are not calling on the name oF Jesus? Or are Buddhist not turning to the saving power of Christ?

Argue constructively baba. Who told you some people in Nigeria aren't practicing Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism? grin

I'm using your logic.

Back to the issue, religion is merely a cultural understanding of the supernatural, that is why the Arabians are predominantly Muslims, Indians; predominantly Hindus and Buddhists, Jews; predominantly Judaists, Italians; predominantly Catholics. The only people who search for God outside their culture are Africans and Nigeria being the chief of them.

Note the word 'predominantly'. Of course, some percentage of the population would practice other religions different from the major ones in that locality.

Like you were told earlier, you'd have probably been a Muslim if you were born in Saudi Arabia or even an Islamic family in the north, a catholic if you're an Italian, a judaist if you're an Israeli etc.

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Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by kiddaz: 11:04am On Oct 05, 2025

The true father of all existence is beyond any religion, deity, books, systems, places of worship and wtv. He will never make it difficult for you to know him because he is everything and everything is HIM. You don't need any special type of prayers or religion shrouded in fear to connect with that because what you seek is already within you as a living soul and not in any other abode. Every religious system is man made to hide the truth and use the majority for the gains of the select few. It's all a game of power. If I'm lying look at all your religious leaders closely and tell yourself what they have in common despite the different cloaks they love to use to shield the majority from knowing they're all the same, even your local small time pastors and MOG's too. I dare anyone in doubt to truthfully and sincerely ask God, Who are you really? I want to know you for who you truly are? Just ask in that direction in your own words and with all sincerity. Do this in your quiet time, advisable in the midnight hours when the majority of the world sleeps and then begin to notice directions from the divine very clearly. There's only one single source that holds everything together. Seek and you will find, the truth only will set you free. Jesus himself tried to explain this but the world wasn't ready to understand even till now. The Roman empire that controlled and still controls the church today twisted everything to suit their own narratives. If you don't know Jesus never truly identified with the religious order of his days even though he read the Torah and went to the temple. Rather he was a thorn in their flesh because he knew the truth, the way and always was vocal about it and clashed with the then MOGs in power. They killed him for that and remade his story, history and even his messages but the truth can never be surpressed forever. Knowing God is by the spirit and not by any religion. In spirit and in truth only can you know. He who is discerning should and he who is comfortable with following the herd should also.

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by 3kay945(m): 11:05am On Oct 05, 2025

SlavaUkraini:
OP, continue to dey play ▶️

The only thing you need to enter heaven is to believe in Jesus Christ.... That's all

All that your self righteousness and holiness is nothing but a filthy rag in the sight of God..

Jesus Christ is your only Visa to the Father

Others that are not Christians nko...

Seems you dey play too. grin

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by Kingosytex(m): 11:07am On Oct 05, 2025

Lukuluku69:
Stop typing like a bot.

What happens to those who lived and died before Christ came some 2,000 years ago?

We they get a free pass to Heaven or they all lived in vain?

I bet he has no answer to that question grin

He doesn't even understand the scriptures sef.

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Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by oghenetega100(f): 11:13am On Oct 05, 2025

This is a good example of a Christian teaching that sounds wonderful and true in hearing but is biblically wrong, this is a result of not spending enough time in the word, we are saved by nothing else but our hope in Christ Jesus, Holiness is one of the results of our faith.

ebubeson:
Do you know singing, anointing, power, good preaching, prayers, good church, good pastor, positive confession, impact, evangelism, crying during worship, dancing like David danced, giving, having a good heart e.t.c, are good but cannot take you to heaven if you do not have holiness attached to it?

God may overlook certain things to bless you on earth, but He will never overlook holiness when it comes to you entering heaven.

Again, God makes holiness achievable if you hunger and thirst after righteousness. But many people are not so positively desperate for righteousness and holiness. Many are comfortable with nominal, worldly and compromising christianity. Matthew 5:6 "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled"

Hebrew 12:14 "Follow peace with all men, and holiness without which no man shall see the Lord"

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by Lukuluku69(m): 11:15am On Oct 05, 2025

TenQ:
Jesus took care of these ones too

1 Pet 3:19-20
He (Jesus) went and proclaimed God's salvation to earlier generations who ended up in the prison of judgment 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,

And to those who never heard the gospel , God judges them by their conscience and His Discretion. So, leave this realm to God's wisdom.

So, for how long did he preach in that Prison of Judgement? Can you also tell us the reception of those in that prison was to Jesus preaching?

Then again, what happened to the Incas, the Commanches, Cheneyes etc who lived and died before Jesus message could get to them?

What about those who lived in Africa before the Europeans brought Jesus message? Will that Prison visit suffices for Heaven admission?

And where can I read about their Reception to Jesus message? Was he accepted as their Lord and Personal Saviour or rejected like the Jews did of him?

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:24am On Oct 05, 2025

Jokerman:
Yes... But before Jesus comes a 2nd time to the earth, believers who died before then, are and will rest in heaven ..... Pending the day of the Harpazo.

Where is the highlighted found written in God's word?

Jesus said he will call all the dead from their graves {John 5:28-29} so where did you find what you are typing? embarassed

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by TenQ: 11:26am On Oct 05, 2025

Lukuluku69:
So, for how long did he preach in that Prison of Judgement? Can you also tell us the reception of those in that prison was to Jesus preaching?

Three earth days.
I cannot tell you of the reception to the message as I don't know

Lukuluku69:
Then again, what happened to the Incas, the Commanches, Cheneyes etc who lived and died before Jesus message could get to them?

What about those who lived in Africa before the Europeans brought Jesus message? Was that Prsion visit suffices for admission to Heaven?

We know that our Gods wisdom is enough to take care of those who never heard.

So, again, I say
And to those who never heard the gospel , God judges them by their Conscience and His Discretion . So, leave this realm to God's wisdom.

How will Allah judge those who never heard of Islam like the Incas, the Commanches, Cheneyes etc ?

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by tammyf: 11:28am On Oct 05, 2025

The only criteria given in the Bible to make heaven is simply to " believe " in d son of God .

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by Lukuluku69(m): 11:33am On Oct 05, 2025

TenQ:
Three earth days.
I cannot tell you of the reception to the message as I don't know

We know that our Gods wisdom is enough to take care of those who never heard.

So, again, I say
And to those who never heard the gospel , God judges them by their Conscience and His Discretion . So, leave this realm to God's wisdom.

How will Allah judge those who never heard of Islam like the Incas, the Commanches, Cheneyes etc ?

He spent Three (3) earth days to preach in the Prison of Judgment but spent Three years to preach only in Judea? Okay. Good of him.

So, you don't know if he was also rejected as the Jews did of his earthly mission? Okay.

I could have asked you to open another thread as usual to know how Allah will judge people on the day of Judgement of people before Islam but if you have ever comprehend what Islam teaches all along, you would have known that YOUR FAITH IN ALLAH AND YOUR WORKS will stand you in good stead with Allah regardless of the time you walked Allah Crust.

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by TenQ: 11:48am On Oct 05, 2025

Lukuluku69:
He spent Three (3) earth days to preach in the Prison of Judgment but spent Three years to preach only in Judea? Okay. Good of him.

So, you don't know if he was also rejected as the Jews did of his earthly mission? Okay.

I could have asked you to open another thread as usual to know how Allah will judge people on the day of Judgement of people before Islam but if you have ever comprehend what Islam teaches all along, you would have known that YOUR FAITH IN ALLAH AND YOUR WORKS will stand you in good stead with Allah regardless of the time you walked Allah Crust.

Your understanding of spiritual things is disappointingly LOW!
Do you think our clock time operates in the spirit realm!? Time doesn't exist as it is in this world sir!
SMH!

You can be sure that my next thread would be deleted as soon as I post it because Muslims hate the truth

You did not answer my question as I have answered yours without prejudice. I do not intend to open any threads on that, this is why I ask you the question to save me the trouble.

How will Allah judge those who never heard of Islam like the Incas, the Commanches, Cheneyes etc ?

Re: The Only Criteria That Can Take You To Heaven? by APOPTOSIS: 11:58am On Oct 05, 2025

MrPresident1:
Is God the God of the dead or the living? Why should anyone see God after death rather than when they are alive? No one sees God at death, it is while alive that you see God

Simple

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