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LordReed:
What does he do, find lost keys? LoLz.

He is dead and gone, he doesn't do anything.

Were you the one who did it for this child in the op? Or you're just here to mock off an evident miracle of His Power?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus sent his disciples to go and preach to people in their homes {Matthew 10:11-13} that's the point.


When people just feel like going to one worship center without being preached to then it's not about Christianity because Christians talk to people about God's Kingdom {Matthew 10:7} that is the message that leads to true faith in Christ!

Chief I don't know your denominational background but Christianity is bigger than your denomination.

Christians gather to worship together, encourage each other and hear the word of God. If you have a problem with that then this is my last reply to you

LordReed:
Really? I haven't heard, fill me in.

There is the suggestion that she is either involved in his demise or is aware of deeper forces behind it and in a pact of silence with them for bigger political and commercial ends.

Still pretty much fringe conspiracy theories though and may not be more than that at the end.

Nonetheless her demeanor is truly remarkable and raises eyebrows.

No one who is bereaved in that way (by having their loved one suffer murder by gunshot in the prime of youth) could be anything but utterly miserable in the aftermath. By contrast, she seems to show at best, indifference, and at worst, outright cheerfulness.

So Charlie was a believer? After all those things? Lol this game is a lot deeper than it seems 😁

Iamzik:
Chief I don't know your denominational background but Christianity is bigger than your denomination. Christians gather to worship together, encourage each other and hear the word of God. If you have a problem with that then this is my last reply to you

OK you call different religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines followers of Christ shey?

Well i disagree it's only those practicing what Jesus taught i know are his true disciples! John 15:14

It's OK if you want to end it here!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
So do you know any church preaching and teaching according to the Bible?

Yeah the deeper life church though I am not a member.

You have actually not stated where Jesus asked his disciples not to pick up titles.
In matthew 23, his focus was on the hypocritical lifestyle of the Pharisees. He condemned their taken up title and even their giving of alms, praying and preaching not because these were bad but because it had an hypocritical tone.
Christianity is not a Cult, don't be creating unnecessary restrictions and rules that bear no weight in kingdom matter.

You cannot just pick up a text and generalize it to create a rule.

As long as there is no clear condemnation of picking up titles in the scriptures, your creating such rule is simply adding to the Bible.

Let's stick to the do's and donts that are clear in the Bible instead of adding.
This is how the many denominational dogmas we have today came up.

MaxInDHouse:
You still don't get it.

Titles attached our names is what Jesus taught us to always avoid so in the first century none of Jesus' followers attached titles to their names.

Whatever title you call it as long as it's recognizable publicly Christians don't bear it what we do is act as apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers {Ephesians 4:11} but never to attach such titles to our names publicly.

Jesus himself did exactly the same when he walked the earth he restricted his disciples from attaching his office to his name. For instance Jesus is the Christ so he warned them never to attach that title to his name until he is gone. Matthew 16:20
That is exactly the same thing he taught his disciples so none of them bears the titles publicly as they mix up with their fellow believers as brothers! Matthew 23:8
True Christians have all these offices in our midst today but you can't hear any of us bear the title in the public only our fellow believers knows our assignment in the congregation.

I dey laugh some of una...that Elon Musk wey una see so dey speak in tongues and dey pray wella. And na him sow seed pass

Onlinetutor7:
You have actually not stated where Jesus asked his disciples not to pick up titles.
In matthew 23, his focus was on the hypocritical lifestyle of the Pharisees. He condemned their taken up title and even their giving of alms, praying and preaching not because these were bad but because it had an hypocritical tone.
Christianity is not a Cult, don't be creating unnecessary restrictions and rules that bear no weight in kingdom matter.

You cannot just pick up a text and generalize it to create a rule.

As long as there is no clear condemnation of picking up titles in the scriptures, your creating such rule is simply adding to the Bible.

Let's stick to the do's and donts that are clear in the Bible instead of adding.
This is how the many denominational dogmas we have today came up.

What is the purpose of titles that Jewish religious leaders bear in the first century and why is Jesus condemning such titles?🙂

What makes you a Christian is not your works of righteousness, but faith in him.

It's simply confessing and believing in the finished works of Christ.

Believing in the Only son of God, is what brings Salvation, every other thing is secondary.

MaxInDHouse:
OK you call different religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines followers of Christ shey?

Well i disagree it's only those practicing what Jesus taught i know are his true disciples! John 15:14

It's OK if you want to end it here!🙂

Jesus also condemned their manner of Alms giving, Prayer and Preaching. Should we also discard these acts.

If there is no clear scriptural condemnation, then it's not a sin and should not be a rule.

MaxInDHouse:
What is the purpose of titles that Jewish religious leaders bear in the first century and why is Jesus condemning such titles?🙂

Onlinetutor7:
What makes you a Christian is not your works of righteousness, but faith in him. It's simply confessing and believing in the finished works of Christ. Believing in the Only son of God, is what brings Salvation, every other thing is secondary.

So can you tell me why there are different sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming believers in Jesus?

Because the word believe connotes trust so who are those TRUSTING in the teachings of this man?

Onlinetutor7:
Jesus also condemned their manner of Alms giving, Prayer and Preaching. Should we also discard these acts.If there is no clear scriptural condemnation, then it's not a sin and should not be a rule.

We believe he is God's only begotten Son so whatever he condemns we make sure it doesn't stand as norm in our midst!🙂

Onlinetutor7:
God can use anyone to promote his course. You will be surprised at the end of age, somebody like Elon may make heaven and you might fall short.
Don't be too quick to judge

Lolzzzzz 🤣

You are just a half baked carnal Christian

Too parochial

No need joining issues with you

Depending on only person to person evangelism, is placing a limitation on the spread of the gospel.
Person to Person evangelism is just one out of the various forms of Evangelism utilized by the early Christians.

The devil is devicing many means to win souls, Christians should explore every available means.

How did I give my life to Christ - I was invited for a crusade and that became a turning point.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus sent his disciples to go and preach to people in their homes {Matthew 10:11-13} that's the point.


When people just feel like going to one worship center without being preached to then it's not about Christianity because Christians talk to people about God's Kingdom {Matthew 10:7} that is the message that leads to true faith in Christ!

Holier than thou attitude is all I see. You can't judge the state of another man's heart with God, only yours.
Elon musk may be closer to God than you.

Zocalite:
Lolzzzzz 🤣

You are just a half baked carnal Christian

Too parochial

No need joining issues with you

Onlinetutor7:
Depending on only person to person evangelism, is placing a limitation on the spread of the gospel.
Person to Person evangelism is just one out of the various forms of Evangelism utilized by the early Christians.

I disagree with the highlighted.

That is the only way Jesus taught his disciples to make more disciples.

Did Jesus condemn the woman caught in Adultery. Should we then condone Adultery.

Context is very important in Bible knowledge.

If you want to do without context then follow it verbatim. What he condemned was Rabbi, Father and Master, he was Specific.

MaxInDHouse:
We believe he is God's only begotten Son so whatever he condemns we make sure it doesn't stand as norm in our midst!🙂

Did you not read how the Apostles won 5000 souls in just one outreach. Was that person to Person.

Or how when Jesus entered Cappernun, the whole city gathered and he gave them the word.

There were many crusades carried out by the apostles.

Paul as an evangelist was moving from city to city edifying the brethren, from Rome to Asia minor was that Person to Person evangelism.

MaxInDHouse:
I disagree with the highlighted.

That is the only way Jesus taught his disciples to make more disciples.

Onlinetutor7:
Did Jesus condemn the woman caught in Adultery. Should we then condone Adultery. Context is very important in Bible knowledge. If you want to do without context then follow it verbatim. What he condemned was Rabbi, Father and Master, he was Specific.

Jesus surely condemned adultery those Jews aren't doing the right thing according to the law both the adulterer and adulteress should be stoned to death. Deuteronomy 22:22-24

But that's not the point now, title bearing is what Jesus condemned for a reason!🙂

Onlinetutor7:
Did you not read how the Apostles won 5000 souls in just one outreach. Was that person to Person.

Or how when Jesus entered Cappernun, the whole city gathered and he gave them the word.

There were many crusades carried out by the apostles.

Those listeners were believers in the Old Testament so it was Jesus they don't understand how he could be the Christ.
If you ask a Jew in the first century what the Christ supposed to do they will show you in the scriptures but it's this Christ they don't know.

Today many people claiming Christians don't know what the title CHRIST means and why everyone must believe in him.

That's what Christians are sent to help their pagan neighbors understand when they leave the walls of Jerusalem.

So it must be one on one to make real disciples not just following the crowd!

That is why context is important in scriptures.

Just as Jesus didn't condemn that woman in that particular scenario even though adultery is bad so also he condemned the Pharisees for their manner of giving alms, taken up titles, prayers and preaching because of their wrong intention, not because those acts were bad.

If you don't want to look at it contextually as a whole, then take it Verbatim: Rabbi, Father and Master. It shouldn't go beyond that.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus surely condemned adultery those Jews aren't doing the right thing according to the law both the adulterer and adulteress should be stoned to death. Deuteronomy 22:22-24

But that's not the point now, title bearing is what Jesus condemned for a reason!🙂

The Jews at that time were even more violent to the followers of Christ

We are talking of a generation that shouted "Crucify Him, Crucify Him"
More than 50 percent of Jesus disciples were martyred.

If you read the act of the Apostles very well you will understand that their ability to win souls had nothing to do with Jewish background but the power of the Holy Spirit they wielded.

If public crusades was utilized by the early Christians, then it is an heresy to claim Person to Person evangelism is the only option Christians of today should utilized.

If I may ask how many souls have you won this year from person to Person evangelism?

MaxInDHouse:
Those listeners were believers in the Old Testament so it was Jesus they don't understand how he could be the Christ.
If you ask a Jew in the first century what the Christ supposed to do they will show you in the scriptures but it's this Christ they don't know.

Onlinetutor7:
That is why context is important in scriptures. Just as Jesus didn't condemn that woman in that particular scenario even though adultery is bad so also he condemned the Pharisees for their manner of giving alms, taken up titles, prayers and preaching because of their wrong intention, not because those acts were bad. If you don't want to look at it contextually as a whole, then take it Verbatim: Rabbi, Father and Master. It shouldn't go beyond that.

The highlighted is a lie rather it's what Satan is using titles to achieve that Jesus wants his disciples to avoid.

If i don't go about with religious titles no one will expect anything religious from me it's by the time they see how i handle matters that they will ask me who taught me to do things in such a wise way then i will tell them about my teacher: Jesus.

But when i carry religious titles no one will ask me any questions even when i does things wrongly rather they will attribute it to the god i claimed with that title.

For instance when a so called PROPHET, PASTOR, BISHOP, EVANGELIST or APOSTLE does what is bad nobody will question him because they know he already has those revering him as man of God so to avoid trouble with his followers they will leave him. The same applies to an Alfa, Iman or sheikh in Islam but when i go anywhere it's my attitude and the way i handle matters that will speak for me not the title attached to my name! Matthew 16:13-16

Do you know the reason now?🙂

Their religions leaders brainwashed them to hate Jesus that's why Peter used the opportunity of what happened at Pentecost to enlighten his fellow Jews on who Jesus was before they killed him! Act 2:36
Of course they were bitter to know that it's their long awaited Christ their religious leaders conspired to kill so they begged Peter to tell them what they need to do if it's not too late {Act 2:37} and he told them to get baptized in the name of Jesus. Act 2:38

But each of them already know what the Christ stands for according to the words of their God it's his identity they missed.

Today most people claiming Christians don't know anything about Christ or what he stands for yet they are claiming believers in Jesus when they don't know what to believe about him!🙂

Onlinetutor7:
The Jews at that time were even more violent to the followers of Christ

We are talking of a generation that shouted "Crucify Him, Crucify Him"
More than 50 percent of Jesus disciples were martyred.

If you read the act of the Apostles very well you will understand that their ability to win souls had nothing to do with Jewish background but the power of the Holy Spirit they wielded.

If public crusades was utilized by the early Christians, then it is an heresy to claim Person to Person evangelism is the only option Christians of today should utilized.

If I may ask how many souls have you won this year from person to Person evangelism?

What you just stated is your personal view on the disadvantage of title and I will not say it is out of place however, title also confers a sense of responsibility on the bearer as such if you are known as an evangelist you wouldn't want to do certain things that will bring the name of Christ to mockery.

For example, if you are doing person to person evangelism in your neighborhood most times your neighbors may start calling you Pastor even though you are not one, that alone check mates your actions.

Why there are Disadvantages there are also advantages, but as far it's not a Sin it cannot be a rule.

It only becomes a Sin for the individual who uses the office of the title to go against God'swill.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is a lie rather it's what Satan is using titles to achieve that Jesus wants his disciples to avoid.

Onlinetutor7:
if you are known as an evangelist you wouldn't want to do certain things that will bring the name of Christ to mockery.

It's like you don't want to agree with the fact Jesus wants us to know about title bearing in the public.

So can you mention just one popular title bearer you know who has not bring the name of Jesus to mockery?

If you say person to person is the most effective in this generation I will not argue because I have not done that research. But it is wrong to say Person to Person is the only approved medium of soul winning. The Acts of the Apostle negates that.

The most important thing to believe about Christ is that he came to save us from our sin, every other thing that makes you feel knowledgeable may not have a bearing in the salvation of your soul.

Most persons who believe just need to be empowered by the word, as faith comes by hearing God's word. This is where the Church becomes important.

You may know everything from Genesis to Revelation, From the Birth of Jesus to his ascension, From the Life of Paul to John the beloved and still miss out on God's Kingdom if you miss the only one important thing.

MaxInDHouse:
But each of them already know what the Christ stands for according to the words of their God it's his identity they missed.

Today most people claiming Christians don't know anything about Christ or what he stands for yet they are claiming believers in Jesus when they don't know what to believe about him!🙂

DeepSight:
There is the suggestion that she is either involved in his demise or is aware of deeper forces behind it and in a pact of silence with them for bigger political and commercial ends.

Still pretty much fringe conspiracy theories though and may not be more than that at the end.

Nonetheless her demeanor is truly remarkable and raises eyebrows.

No one who is bereaved in that way (by having their loved one suffer murder by gunshot in the prime of youth) could be anything but utterly miserable in the aftermath. By contrast, she seems to show at best, indifference, and at worst, outright cheerfulness.

Yeah her behaviour as a grieving widow is bizarre and I can see why people would reach for those conclusions.

For me there isn't enough information to make some kind of guess. It would be really sad if any of this turns out to be true.

FxMasterz:
Were you the one who did it for this child in the op? Or you're just here to mock off an evident miracle of His Power?

There is no evident miracle so I dunno what you are talking about.

What is not a Sin is not a Sin.
There is no clear scripture that condemns ministerial title bearing.

There is no one human who is perfect but Christ. What is important is the impact you made for the kingdom despite your imperfection.

Stop manufacturing sins that are non-existent. Those are denominational dogma.

This is how the Bible condemns sin.
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MaxInDHouse:
It's like you don't want to agree with the fact Jesus wants us to know about title bearing in the public.

So can you mention just one popular title bearer you know who has not bring the name of Jesus to mockery?

She is fully confident that her Husband is in Paradise and the Holy Ghost is there to Comfort her.

LordReed:
Yeah her behaviour as a grieving widow is bizarre and I can see why people would reach for those conclusions.

For me there isn't enough information to make some kind of guess. It would be really sad if any of this turns out to be true.