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Cancer is responsible for so many deaths all over the world. Cancer Research and the equivalent of this in other countries, have been in operation for many years and have been given billions of pounds, dollars euro’s. Why have they not found a cure, or at least a way to stop growth. Or do they have a cure, but it is much too expensive for a layman to afford ??

@Afrodoc, @Unlimited22 and other doctors in the thread.

popizaino:
Cancer is responsible for so many deaths all over the world. Cancer Research and the equivalent of this in other countries, have been in operation for many years and have been given billions of pounds, dollars euro’s. Why have they not found a cure, or at least a way to stop growth. Or do they have a cure, but it is much too expensive for a layman to afford ??

@Afrodoc, @Unlimited22 and other doctors in the thread.

Cancer is a hard problem. In terms of lay man’s analogy, solving the cancer problem is akin to being passed a pot of Basmati and Local rice and then being asked to isolate the Basmati rice from the local rice.

If it was an easy problem, it would be long solved.

popizaino:
Cancer is responsible for so many deaths all over the world. Cancer Research and the equivalent of this in other countries, have been in operation for many years and have been given billions of pounds, dollars euro’s. Why have they not found a cure, or at least a way to stop growth. Or do they have a cure, but it is much too expensive for a layman to afford ??

@Afrodoc, @Unlimited22 and other doctors in the thread.

Firstly, cancer is not a single disease but a very diverse group of diseases with very different causes and risk factors, very different genetic behaviour, and as a result, very different treatment modalities.

For example your race and exposure to sunlight is a major risk factor for skin cancer, HPV infection is a major risk factor for cervical cancer, smoking is a major risk factor for lung cancer etc

Some cancers have very effective cures while others do not, depending on the genetic behaviour of the particular cancer and its tendency to spread quickly. Cancers that change their genetic makeup rapidly ie mutate, and cancers that spread to other parts of the body quickly or quietly ie metastasise are often difficult to treat.

This is because if it changes its makeup often it is difficult to develop a medication that will effectively kill those cells consistently. Also, if it spreads quietly or quickly the person might not find out he/she has cancer until it is too late.

Melanoma and Merkel cell carcinoma spread quickly and mutate quickly as well so they are harder to treat compared to other skin cancers like squamous cell carcinoma of the skin or basal cell carcinoma of the skin. All are however curable if diagnosed early.

Pancreatic cancer can spread quietly and mutates frequently so it is often a death sentence as people find out when it’s too late.

Prostate cancer, Breast cancer, Thyroid cancer, non-Melanoma and non-Merkel skin cancers tend to have good survival rates because they often don’t change quickly and do not spread early.

As you can see, the picture is a very complex one.
I believe the keys to good outcomes are to address the preventable risk factors, screen for the cancers that have reliable screening tests, and seek medical review if one has any health issues. It is also important to go for regular medical check ups.

The cancers that one can readily screen for are Colorectal cancer, Prostate cancer, Breast cancer, Cervical cancer. Skin cancer can also be screened but is less relevant in our environment. Lung and Liver cancer screening has started emerging as well.

DeadPresidents:
Cancer is a hard problem. In terms of lay man’s analogy, solving the cancer problem is akin to being passed a pot of Basmati and Local rice and then being asked to isolate the Basmati rice from the local rice.

If it was an easy problem, it would be long solved.

Hmmmmm.That's a very tough one.

I watch the remake of this story monster(Ed gein) on Netflix
Omo this guy no well at all, he beat lie detector machine and while in rehab he helped police catch another serial rapist and killer

Even if it's free stadium will still be empty
Club WC is example

afrodoc:
Firstly, cancer is not a single disease but a very diverse group of diseases with very different causes and risk factors, very different genetic behaviour, and as a result, very different treatment modalities.

For example your race and exposure to sunlight is a major risk factor for skin cancer, HPV infection is a major risk factor for cervical cancer, smoking is a major risk factor for lung cancer etc

Some cancers have very effective cures while others do not, depending on the genetic behaviour of the particular cancer and its tendency to spread quickly. Cancers that change their genetic makeup rapidly ie mutate, and cancers that spread to other parts of the body quickly or quietly ie metastasise are often difficult to treat.

This is because if it changes its makeup often it is difficult to develop a medication that will effectively kill those cells consistently. Also, if it spreads quietly or quickly the person might not find out he/she has cancer until it is too late.

Melanoma and Merkel cell carcinoma spread quickly and mutate quickly as well so they are harder to treat compared to other skin cancers like squamous cell carcinoma of the skin or basal cell carcinoma of the skin. All are however curable if diagnosed early.

Pancreatic cancer can spread quietly and mutates frequently so it is often a death sentence as people find out when it’s too late.

Prostate cancer, Breast cancer, Thyroid cancer, non-Melanoma and non-Merkel skin cancers tend to have good survival rates because they often don’t change quickly and do not spread early.

As you can see, the picture is a very complex one.
I believe the keys to good outcomes are to address the preventable risk factors, screen for the cancers that have reliable screening tests, and seek medical review if one has any health issues. It is also important to go for regular medical check ups.

The cancers that one can readily screen for are Colorectal cancer, Prostate cancer, Breast cancer, Cervical cancer. Skin cancer can also be screened but is less relevant in our environment. Lung and Liver cancer screening has started emerging as well.

You are supposed to advise the Egbon bros about prostate cancer

GloriousGbola:
You are supposed to advise the Egbon bros about prostate cancer

Yeah, men of African descent are a high risk group.

There are no formal screening guidelines but I would recommend yearly blood tests (to check PSA) from the age of 40.

Colorectal cancer is also rising in the 3rd world as diets and lifestyle more closely mirror the Western world, so colorectal cancer screening from 50yrs (or even earlier) is recommended. Stool tests every 1-2 years if no added family risk. Colonoscopy if there is a strong family history. It is more expensive, more invasive but overall the better test.

afrodoc:
Firstly, cancer is not a single disease but a very diverse group of diseases with very different causes and risk factors, very different genetic behaviour, and as a result, very different treatment modalities.

For example your race and exposure to sunlight is a major risk factor for skin cancer, HPV infection is a major risk factor for cervical cancer, smoking is a major risk factor for lung cancer etc

Some cancers have very effective cures while others do not, depending on the genetic behaviour of the particular cancer and its tendency to spread quickly. Cancers that change their genetic makeup rapidly ie mutate, and cancers that spread to other parts of the body quickly or quietly ie metastasise are often difficult to treat.

This is because if it changes its makeup often it is difficult to develop a medication that will effectively kill those cells consistently. Also, if it spreads quietly or quickly the person might not find out he/she has cancer until it is too late.

Melanoma and Merkel cell carcinoma spread quickly and mutate quickly as well so they are harder to treat compared to other skin cancers like squamous cell carcinoma of the skin or basal cell carcinoma of the skin. All are however curable if diagnosed early.

Pancreatic cancer can spread quietly and mutates frequently so it is often a death sentence as people find out when it’s too late.

Prostate cancer, Breast cancer, Thyroid cancer, non-Melanoma and non-Merkel skin cancers tend to have good survival rates because they often don’t change quickly and do not spread early.

As you can see, the picture is a very complex one.
I believe the keys to good outcomes are to address the preventable risk factors, screen for the cancers that have reliable screening tests, and seek medical review if one has any health issues. It is also important to go for regular medical check ups.

The cancers that one can readily screen for are Colorectal cancer, Prostate cancer, Breast cancer, Cervical cancer. Skin cancer can also be screened but is less relevant in our environment. Lung and Liver cancer screening has started emerging as well.

Overall cancer is a bitch.

Talking about pancreatic cancer,after my mum was diagnosed with it on the 29th of August and later passed away on the 17th of last month. I started reading about it and discovered the early symptoms are almost the same from findings on Quora.

Maybe if i know what i know about pancreatic cancer now maybe she would have survived it.

I remember her complaining about a slight back pain at this time last year and i thought her knee was what caused the back pain not knowing it was PC creeping in gradually with dark urine.

I could have taken her to the hospital here and ask the doctor to begin every possible treatment,because of it walk like a duck,quack like a duck then it definitely a duck.

popizaino:
Overall cancer is a bitch.

Talking about pancreatic cancer,after my mum was diagnosed with it on the 29th of August and later passed away on the 17th of last month. I started reading about it and discovered the early symptoms are almost the same from findings on Quora.

Maybe if i know what i know about pancreatic cancer now maybe she would have survived it.

I remember her complaining about a slight back pain at this time last year and i thought her knee was what caused the back pain not knowing it was PC creeping in gradually with dark urine.

I could have taken her to the hospital here and ask the doctor to begin every possible treatment,because of it walk like a duck,quack like a duck then it definitely a duck.

Oh, accept my condolences. Pancreatic cancer is a nasty one. The symptoms are often very subtle and easy to miss. Don't beat yourself up about it.

Early signs of madness.

https://www.nairaland.com/8533816/dangote-nigeria-greater-than-pengassan

Hmmm

TemporaryHansel:
Early signs of madness.

what's now the purpose and yearning for equality? How many babes dey follow boys dig shovel, pack blocks back then when we dey run concre hustle then when men like gbaumdeter dey ready to type omoge te aza fun mi on top small whining of waist.

popizaino:
Overall cancer is a bitch.

Talking about pancreatic cancer,after my mum was diagnosed with it on the 29th of August and later passed away on the 17th of last month. I started reading about it and discovered the early symptoms are almost the same from findings on Quora.

Maybe if i know what i know about pancreatic cancer now maybe she would have survived it.

I remember her complaining about a slight back pain at this time last year and i thought her knee was what caused the back pain not knowing it was PC creeping in gradually with dark urine.

I could have taken her to the hospital here and ask the doctor to begin every possible treatment,because of it walk like a duck,quack like a duck then it definitely a duck.

Accept my condolences alhaji. May she rest in peace.

popizaino:
Overall cancer is a bitch.

Talking about pancreatic cancer,after my mum was diagnosed with it on the 29th of August and later passed away on the 17th of last month. I started reading about it and discovered the early symptoms are almost the same from findings on Quora.

Maybe if i know what i know about pancreatic cancer now maybe she would have survived it.

I remember her complaining about a slight back pain at this time last year and i thought her knee was what caused the back pain not knowing it was PC creeping in gradually with dark urine.

I could have taken her to the hospital here and ask the doctor to begin every possible treatment,because of it walk like a duck,quack like a duck then it definitely a duck.

In most cases there wont be any symptoms until the disease has progressed. One man I spoke to, he had a car accident and when they were treating him for wounds, one of the tests showed growing cancer in his body, I think it was pancreatic cancer too . So he was able to get it treated. Some people they wont know until it has progressed and reached terminal stage

Once again, May God protect everything/everyone mama left behind

afrodoc2:
Oh, accept my condolences. Pancreatic cancer is a nasty one. The symptoms are often very subtle and easy to miss. Don't beat yourself up about it.

One of my guys in Naija was also diagnosed of stomach cancer earlier this year, he is going through treatment. Mid 40s guy

Some of his diagnosis

afrodoc2:
Oh, accept my condolences. Pancreatic cancer is a nasty one. The symptoms are often very subtle and easy to miss. Don't beat yourself up about it.

Doki, me get serious waist pains. This morning I bent to drop my toddler on the sofa, and I felt this sudden sharp intense pain in my waist with the pain being more intense at the lower back spine-waist intersection with a hot burning sensation. I feel so much pain, and discomfort when changing from a previous position such as standing, sitting, bending, squatting, lying down etc.

A little history - I experienced this kinda waist pain about 4 months ago when our pumping machine spoilt, and I had to fetch water outside and carry the kegs up to my flat for a week before it was repaired. Then, I used diclofenac tablets and applied Deep Heat ointment, and it went away after about 2 weeks.

I have taken a tablet of Aceclofenac Paracetamol Chlorzoxazone tablet,, applied Ero Arike balm to massage my waist and I feel a bit better but I'm wondering if there's more to it

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Even in 2027 we might still complain about this road. And this is just one.
https://www.nairaland.com/8532231/benin-agbor-road-edo-state-poor#137004546

liveLongNprospa:
This is not about cutting your coat.
More people have gone under.
Things are alot more expensive.
Which means your spending has gone up and your purchasing power has been cut badly.
The amount you spent to fix a car in 2022 isn't the same you spend today.
The amount your spent on fuel in January 2023 is almost 300% more now just price. The volume you consume has increased because of terrible power supply and even poor quality petrol that burns off faster.
The money you spent on food in 2022 is alot more now.
School fees has gone up alot more.
The things you buy for the house that are necessities are now 3 times more expensive.
Should I talk about the cost of medication?

Now let's talk about the parents you support, do you reduce the money or increase it with the price of things?
There's a surge in poverty meaning if 20 people were begging you in 2022, 40 people are probably begging you now.
Lets now face personal development if you are a career person.
How much is the cost of certifications now compared to last year? Probably 2 times or 3 times depending on if it's a UK or US certification.

Like I said, 600k is not much if you are a proper family person

Lmao... I wonder how this 600k will be now😂

Itsrm:
I think the state of the economy is now making us see basic things as luxury. Cooking with gas will soon be luxury. People will be advised to cook with firewood

OH my Goodness😂

WhoDeyHause:
Even in 2027 we might still complain about this road. And this is just one.
https://www.nairaland.com/8532231/benin-agbor-road-edo-state-poor#137035933

[color=royalblue]Benin-Asaba is currently under construction sha.

But I doubt if that portion in the video is actually on that road. It looks more like Benin-Sapele.

Edo State is blessed with a lot of bad roads sha. Another place is Ondo state.[/color]

raumdeuter:
One of my guys in Naija was also diagnosed of stomach cancer earlier this year, he is going through treatment. Mid 40s guy

Some of his diagnosis

Stomach cancer with metastases to liver and pancreatic tail. The prognosis is grim. Poor guy.

semid4lyfe:
Doki, me get serious waist pains. This morning I bent to drop my toddler on the sofa, and I felt this sudden sharp intense pain in my waist with the pain being more intense at the lower back spine-waist intersection with a hot burning sensation. I feel so much pain, and discomfort when changing from a previous position such as standing, sitting, bending, squatting, lying down etc.

A little history - I experienced this kinda waist pain about 4 months ago when our pumping machine spoilt, and I had to fetch water outside and carry the kegs up to my flat for a week before it was repaired. Then, I used diclofenac tablets and applied Deep Heat ointment, and it went away after about 2 weeks.

I have taken a tablet of Aceclofenac Paracetamol Chlorzoxazone tablet,, applied Ero Arike balm to massage my waist and I feel a bit better but I'm wondering if there's more to it

The major thing i will draw from this story is that you should stop rushing to take Diclofenac every time you have a musculoskeletal issue. Your kidneys will thank you. Panadol plus ice pack in the first 48hrs (heat pack after 48hrs) plus TIME will do the job.

Sometimes the treatment causes more calamity than the initial problem. If you take Diclofenac (and other NSAIDs) often enough and in high enough doses, you will create a problem for yourself.

afrodoc2:
The major thing i will draw from this story is that you should stop rushing to take Diclofenac every time you have a musculoskeletal issue. Your kidneys will thank you. Panadol plus ice pack in the first 48hrs (heat pack after 48hrs) plus TIME will do the job.

Sometimes the treatment causes more calamity than the initial problem. If you take Diclofenac (and other NSAIDs) often enough and in high enough doses, you will create a problem for yourself.

[color=royalblue] God!

And if you see how Nigerians rush to take Diclofenac at any slightest pain?

God abeg[/color]

afrodoc2:
The major thing i will draw from this story is that you should stop rushing to take Diclofenac every time you have a musculoskeletal issue. Your kidneys will thank you. Panadol plus ice pack in the first 48hrs (heat pack after 48hrs) plus TIME will do the job.

Sometimes the treatment causes more calamity than the initial problem. If you take Diclofenac (and other NSAIDs) often enough and in high enough doses, you will create a problem for yourself.

Noted Doc. Thanks so much.

izzou:
[color=royalblue] God!

And if you see how Nigerians rush to take Diclofenac at any slightest pain?

God abeg[/color]

I have a suspicion Diclofenac and its other NSAID cousins (Alabukun, Feldene Felvin) PLUS all those herbal concoctions AND untreated/undiagnosed hypertension are the major reasons why so many young Nigerians develop kidney problems.

afrodoc2:
I have a suspicion Diclofenac and its other NSAID cousins (Alabukun, Feldene Felvin) PLUS all those herbal concoctions AND untreated/undiagnosed hypertension are the major reasons why so many young Nigerians develop kidney problems.

Some people also regularly consume energy drinks.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Benin-Asaba is currently under construction sha.

But I doubt if that portion in the video is actually on that road. It looks more like Benin-Sapele.

Edo State is blessed with a lot of bad roads sha. Another place is Ondo state.[/color]

That place is Benin aagbor-road just around iguomo community just b4 RCC...


I almost cried d last time I went there even when d rain was less

GrammarNazi1:
Some people also regularly consume energy drinks.

That one dey too.

afrodoc2:
I have a suspicion Diclofenac and its other NSAID cousins (Alabukun, Feldene Felvin) PLUS all those herbal concoctions AND untreated/undiagnosed hypertension are the major reasons why so many young Nigerians develop kidney problems.

You suppose start a health nugget kinda series for this thread.

E fit be weekly wey you go just drop one health advice. You never know who you go dey help.

Just thinking aloud. ....

afrodoc:
That one dey too.

And those "bitters" drinks for sexual performance, and I assume that those drinks include an inordinate amount of ED (erectile dysfunction) meds such as Viagra, and Cialis.