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Scorpio99:
Lol, I am never going to agree with the it was worse than the Nigerian security forces MO. I have only seen those things as trending on twitter, I haven't watched any of the videos. Anyways, to the below.....

I don't know why people tend to see the US as a kind of demi god that does no wrong. Maybe it is justify their own obviously worse standard or something else, I wouldn't know.
The mere fact that the concept of justice, fairness, equity, as we know it today originated from democratic America does not mean no wrong can be done in USA.

Justice, equity and fairness is a concept that human beings forever chase and will always continue to chase.

But one thing is clear: When these things occur in the US and the west, majority of people whose rights are trampled upon in most cases get justice (anyhow you define it). This can rarely be said of other jurisdictions. Not too long, police were still killing people for #20 on our roads.

At least, we all saw what happened to Derek Chauvin for kneeling down on George Floyd and causing his death. Chauvin is still in prison. It's very clear that he never intended to cause George's death.

So, if we can condemn US for the current ICE MO, why don't we also take a leaf from how Derek Chauvin's case was handled. But the only thing that is rampant in our own societies are the kind of ICE MO, we never or rarely see the likes of Derek Chauvin.

If we are looking up to western standards, common sense dictates that we shouldn't follow hook, line and sinker.


It's Gbadebo reporting.....

usmanpogo:
When security agencies break the law to uphold the law, they are no different from the criminals they seek to apprehend - Salt
Why are they always screaming human rights violations if they know they are not perfect !!!
I still can't believe this is happening in the US, the "land of the free"

From now on, Make nobody lecture anybody about human rights as e be like this now.
Why are the Europeans quiet about this ? That's the baffling part

US senator Ted Cruz is seeking to declare Nigeria a terrorist State ( No argument there) but why is he not saying anything about people's right being violated in his country ?

WriterrNg:
⚡ Another Russian An-124 heavy cargo plane left Irkutsk, likely headed to Iran today.

Appleyard:
Iran has introduced a new type of long range drone called Gaza.

The drone was probably modeled after the US MQ-9 Reaper that Tehran hacked and captured intact few years back over Iranian airspace.

The Gaza can stay airborne for 35 hours, clock 200km per hour. It has a maximum range of 4000 km and can carry 12 munitions.

The preparation for the Israel/Iran rematch is getting hotter everyday.

dvkot:
how many western veterans/ military officers/ mercenaries are fighting for Ukraine? Not to talk of the thousands of Colombia mercs. But keep crying about the cubans

dermmy:
Iran will be so high on dosage of " enriched Uranium"

WriterrNg:
⚡Kremlin:

Putin and Netanyahu spoke by phone about Middle East developments, including the U.S. Gaza normalization plan. Putin reaffirmed Russia’s stance on a comprehensive Palestinian settlement. They also discussed Iran’s nuclear issue, stability in Syria, and exchanged holiday greetings.

Scorpio99:
I know you are kind of playing some plays here but let's still argue it.

To begin with, Salt's reasoning and that quote is quite shallow. Maybe we should go back to the social contract theory where we find the legal basis for the existence of a constitution and all other laws. Simply put, governmental actions, as long as it is within limits, whether good or bad are what the people have agreed to be governed by. It doesn't matter whether it looks criminal or not. Take for instance: Have you ever noticed how Intelligence agencies and other security agencies work? They are nothing more than the accepted version of criminals. They break the law to protect the law. Their breaking of the law is accepted by the people because it is necessary to protect the law.

Why are they screaming human rights violations when they know they are not perfect?

This shouldn't go to the US but the entirety of the United Nations. Concept of Human right was rarely reckoned with until the end of the second world war. With the establishment of the UN, it becomes a responsibility for the powers that be at then to carry the mantle of the agreements and resolutions and whatever else drafted at that time. The fact that the remaining permanent members of the security council choose to neglect their duties because of enmity with the US shouldn't be a reason for the US to neglect its own duty. So, it's not about screaming human rights violations, it's about duty and responsibility without which we all know that we would have had countless Rwanda Tutsi and Hutu repeats. Seeking perfection from any nation is a wild goose chase.

Why are European Leaders quiet?

Well, that's the only part of your question am afraid I am unable to provide an immediate answer to.

Why is Senator Ted Cruz not saying anything about people's rights being violated in his country?

You can't tell me you have listened to every Senator Ted Cruz's correspondences. And Senator Ted probably can't talk about everything. If Cruz isn't talking about it, I am sure other senators are talking about it. Why must it be Red Cruz?

Scorpio99:
Let me add more spice to your tears 😭😭😭

WriterrNg:
⚡Kremlin:

Putin and Netanyahu spoke by phone about Middle East developments, including the U.S. Gaza normalization plan. Putin reaffirmed Russia’s stance on a comprehensive Palestinian settlement. They also discussed Iran’s nuclear issue, stability in Syria, and exchanged holiday greetings.

obedience4:
That begs the question!! if civilians deaths are "inevitable" as you have rightly said, especially in an urban setting.


How come there's outrage in the thread over "ineluctable" civilians deaths in Gaza while also factoring that the war being fought is an asymmetric warfare also in an urban setting

Have you talked about the IDF other strikes that have successfully neutralize terrorist targets without incurring civilian casualties??

WriterrNg:
⚡Trump says he has made a decision regarding sending Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine.