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Omoawoke:
Please let’s stop talking of how white colonial masters described us

They were evil racists, oppressors and invaders that treated our ancestors with cruelty ..

We don’t need to seek their validation …
Slave masters sometimes praise the people they see below them as a method of control and reward for obedience. A complete degradation of the people in their own land

They never liked us, they never respected us… they saw us lesser than animals

Meaning the smartest tribe bla bla na pure bullshit

kettykin:
Any person that believes this needs a course in AI.

By 1910, when the said article was reportedly written, both Liberia and Haiti had already produced presidents of Igbo origin, this a testament to the far-reaching influence and leadership legacy of the Igbo people across the Black world.

By 1910 igbos have already fought for the independence of a lot of countries and become their presidents

Why did you leave out the slavery part that is associated to this story? They were descendants of slaves taken from Africa to America.

I don't even respond to them but the censor on the words is too much.

helinues:
Since I started blocking those notorious trollers on this forum, I hardly get banned

I can see Seun peeping. I am off anti spam bot headache

grandstar:
Though I am proud of my tribe Yoruba, we should understand that this was written over 100 years ago.

Heck, the ancestors of this article were living in caves when the Romans got to Britain around 50 B.C.E

Even the Gauls (ancestors of the French, and the Goths, ancestors of the Germans were quite primitive compared to the Romans and Greeks.

Now, the Gucci shoe is on the other foot. The British, German, and French economies based on per capita income alone are higher than that of Italy and Greece.

We are all equal before God, all EQUAL!

No tribe or race is higher than the other.

Don't mind them.
I don't know why we always get upbeat about how some foreign nations have described us

madridguy:
I don't even respond to them but the censor on the words is too much.

Reduce your engagement with those notorious trollers, they are the one that makes someone to be making aggressive comments

Racoon:
Meanwhile, the most cherished well read region is the same one that has sadly given the nation the most criminally minded band of humanity ever seen.

From the Oluwole certificate forgers, skull miners, drug runners, clergies/traditional rulers being convicted for criminality and not strange, the largest swathes of anti-social elements ever seen a region of a country in history. So sad! Too bad!

Fake drugs
Kidnapping and criminality
Baby factory
Hard drugs

I've never seen it done anywhere than your place. I didn't expect that response from you so you deserve befitting reply

They needed to infiltrated west Africa with the help of an indigenous ally, they were receiving wotowoto from the creek dwellers in the riverine areas, history described the numerous wars they had to fight with these tribes they described as inferior to the yorubas, history has it that the unlucky folks from Europe were eaten.
I have never ready in history a time when the yorubas went to war with the white bandits and terrorists who arrived from Europe.

risos:
I have never ready in history a time when the yorubas went to war with the white bandits and terrorists who arrived from Europe.

thats because your education is limited.

https://www.yorubaness.com.ng/2022/06/battle-of-imagbon-british-ijebu-war-of.html

https://oldnaija.com/2019/04/04/the-british-ijebu-war-of-1892-the-battle-of-imagbon/

casualobserver:
thats because your education is limited.

https://www.yorubaness.com.ng/2022/06/battle-of-imagbon-british-ijebu-war-of.html

https://oldnaija.com/2019/04/04/the-british-ijebu-war-of-1892-the-battle-of-imagbon/

Sorry I didn't bother to click on the link, A quick search and AI gave me these results

Yoruba Wars with Europeans were not large-scale military conflicts but rather interventions by British forces into the internal Yoruba civil wars, particularly the Kiriji War (1877–1893), where British intervention was a decisive factor in the eventual colonization of the region. Driven by economic interests, especially the palm oil trade, the British used military force to end the conflicts, annex territories, and establish control, leading to the annexation of the western Yoruba territories and the establishment of the Lagos colony.
British Intervention in Yoruba Civil Wars
The Kiriji War (1877–1893): The major conflict the British intervened in was this prolonged civil war between various Yoruba sub-ethnic kingdoms.
Interests of the British: Britain was drawn into the conflicts due to its interest in trade, especially the palm oil trade, and the intensifying "Scramble for Africa" where European powers were rapidly colonizing African territories.
Military Intervention:
British attempts to resolve the wars began in 1879.
After initially observing the conflicts, the British took aggressive actions to assert control after 1885.
Governor Gilbert Carter arrived in Lagos in 1891 and led an invasion of Ijebu in 1892.
The British persuaded the warring factions, the Ekiti Parapo and Ibadan forces, to disband by 1893.
Result: Colonization: The British military intervention and their persuasive efforts to end the civil wars effectively paved the way for the annexation of the region as a British dominion, which marked the end of Yoruba autonomy and the beginning of colonial rule.
Role of European Weapons
Impact on Warfare: The introduction of European firearms influenced the outcomes of the Yoruba Civil Wars, with groups like the Ijebu utilizing them to gain an advantage.
Strategic Use: The control of trade routes to Lagos enabled access to these European guns, which became a significant factor in the military dynamics of the Yoruba kingdoms during this period.



In summary yorubas were busy fighting amongst themselves and the British knew this would delay their colonization agenda, so they had to intervene, it not as if they declared war on the yorubas people.
My education is unlimited I'm a leaner who's still a very good student.


You should understand why they still favor yoruba land for the headquarters of their resources leeching corporations, they infiltrated your lots to get to the rest of us, that's me assuming you are yoruba.

Racoon:
Of course the Yorubas was almost a monolithic entity despite their language tonations( Egbas, Aworis, Ijebus, Oke-Oguns, Ilaje etc) unlike the Eastern and Central regions that are heterogenous in population( Igbos, Aniomas, Efiks, Ibibios, Annangs, Igalas, etc)

remember the Igarra mentioned here has nothing to do with Igala of Kogi state which is by the way in the North. Igarra is in present day Edo state and they are a well organised and civilised people.

Softmirror:
Why did you leave out the slavery part that is associated to this story? They were descendants of slaves taken from Africa to America.

Were there not yorubas , hausas, fulani descendants of slaves, how many of them rose to become presidents in the countries they found themselves, it does look like some people's chapters started and ended up only on Nigeria.

risos:
Sorry I didn't bother to click on the link, A quick search and AI gave me these results

Yoruba Wars with Europeans were not large-scale military conflicts but rather interventions by British forces into the internal Yoruba civil wars, particularly the Kiriji War (1877–1893), where British intervention was a decisive factor in the eventual colonization of the region. Driven by economic interests, especially the palm oil trade, the British used military force to end the conflicts, annex territories, and establish control, leading to the annexation of the western Yoruba territories and the establishment of the Lagos colony.
British Intervention in Yoruba Civil Wars
The Kiriji War (1877–1893): The major conflict the British intervened in was this prolonged civil war between various Yoruba sub-ethnic kingdoms.
Interests of the British: Britain was drawn into the conflicts due to its interest in trade, especially the palm oil trade, and the intensifying "Scramble for Africa" where European powers were rapidly colonizing African territories.
Military Intervention:
British attempts to resolve the wars began in 1879.
After initially observing the conflicts, the British took aggressive actions to assert control after 1885.
Governor Gilbert Carter arrived in Lagos in 1891 and led an invasion of Ijebu in 1892.
The British persuaded the warring factions, the Ekiti Parapo and Ibadan forces, to disband by 1893.
Result: Colonization: The British military intervention and their persuasive efforts to end the civil wars effectively paved the way for the annexation of the region as a British dominion, which marked the end of Yoruba autonomy and the beginning of colonial rule.
Role of European Weapons
Impact on Warfare: The introduction of European firearms influenced the outcomes of the Yoruba Civil Wars, with groups like the Ijebu utilizing them to gain an advantage.
Strategic Use: The control of trade routes to Lagos enabled access to these European guns, which became a significant factor in the military dynamics of the Yoruba kingdoms during this period.



In summary yorubas were busy fighting amongst themselves and the British knew this would delay their colonization agenda, so they had to intervene, it not as if they declared war on the yorubas people.
My education is unlimited I'm a leaner who's still a very good student.

thats why your education will continue to be limited. your are more interested in ego on the internet. i am not here to convinve the ignorant. i make these posts because there are others reading it. people like you get blocked after.


for those interested. the official Uk gazette is below and the second link is a british account of the war by a british soldier.


https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/26303/page/3783

http://www.kaiserscross.com/188001/204201.html

kettykin:
Were there not yorubas , hausas, fulani descendants of slaves, how many of them rose to become presidents in the countries they found themselves, it does look like some people's chapters started and ended up only on Nigeria.

President of Slaves?! Of course who else could it have been?! Sincerely speaking.

Aji sebi oyo lari oyo ose bi baba enikan

Yoruba do not need external validation

The fact that some even subscribe to the idea that the British have any authority to categorise them is troubling

I will not speak for others but spiritually and culturally no one is above the Yoruba

Perhaps the British recognised that they were less evolved

Their main superiority was military organisation and technology which they used to dominate the world

But they are in no position to use Yoruba for Nature study

Softmirror:
President of Slaves?! Of course who else could it have been?! Sincerely speaking.

A former slave who overcame the chains of bondage, conquered the psychological limitations of slavery, and rose to become a president, stands infinitely better and greater than one who, though freed in body, remains imprisoned by the mental bankruptcy and servitude of slavery.

helinues:
Reduce your engagement with those notorious trollers, they are the one that makes someone to be making aggressive comments

There are few moments of joy on this platform that beat the green lines that represent blocked trolls.

Racoon:
Meanwhile, the most cherished well read region is the same one that has sadly given the nation the most criminally minded band of humanity ever seen.

From the Oluwole certificate forgers, skull miners, drug runners, clergies/traditional rulers being convicted for criminality and not strange, the largest swathes of anti-social elements ever seen a region of a country in history. So sad! Too bad!

But the lesser privileged to the Yorubas infiltrated the world with hard drugs n has high percentage of it population in prison

Brenbentondiaz:
Deveropers in the mud. Wailing and gnashing of teeth incoming.

Keep consoling yourself

Ttalk:
Fake drugs
Kidnapping and criminality
Baby factory
Hard drugs

I've never seen it done anywhere than your place. I didn't expect that response from you so you deserve befitting reply

The thing pain your soul no be small

madridguy:
Yoruba biggest enemies are our leaders that allowed the people from the region of lazy-leaders, short sighted leaders to be coming to our region to be enjoying what is supposed to be strictly for Omoluabis.

This is the reason they are always rubbing shoulders with us and think we are mate.

Yoruba lagba lojokojo.

Lookie here

The white man was right in his letter
Keep lying to yourself so you can sleep well tonight

The question remains, why do Yoruba leaders play second feeder to the North. Why has Yorubas not seek self determination out of this geographical conclave called Nigeria. Worst off, a section of Yorubas, the kwarans are existing as colonized entity of the Fuluni Sokoto Caliphate up until tomorrow. They can't determine the moon for sallah. They are not permitted to celebrate their cultural heritage. Quiet unfortunate for a Tribe credited with such huge potentials 100 years ago.

If compliment and positive remarks 100 years ago where determinant of progress, then Yorubas have it, but the fact is glaring, it's not.

Lagos State, a Nigeria Capital for 47 years still remain the only sense of growth in SW, while other SW state are considered near rural states. And yet, they claimed Tinubu built Lagos. The Yorubas Need to have a sitting with themselves to forge their own part.

This second feeder role to the North clearly degraded all those potentials envisioned 100 years ago by The white British colonialist.

Potentials remain a potential. Static, until unleash.

LegendHero:
SOCIAL CONDITION OF THE PEOPLE.

For the purpose of briefly describing the social condition of the people, Southern Nigeria may be divided into two parts, the Western Province forming one, and the Central and Eastern Provinces together forming the other, The Yoruba-speaking tribes, which occupy practically the whole of the Western Province, lave attained o state of civilization many degrees higher than that reached by the numerous tribes of the other two provinces, and on this account should be considered separately.

Pride of race is one of the factors that have pushed the Yoruba onward, whilst past wars with neighbors, together with internal disruption, have asisted in making him keen, wide-awake, and comparatively energetic. Excellent ougonic marriage laws late helped him to keep down disease and maintain unimpaired the physique of his race.

The Yorubas are law-abiding, and a sound system of Laws is administered by the native authorities with the assistance of the British officers stationed in the various districts.The most per-fect compromise between British and native low in nil Southern Nigeria is, perhaps, that of the "mixed" court ot Abeukuta, the capital of Egbaland, where the District Commissioner sits os president, with two Egba judges to assist him.

The Yorubas are to a very large extent pagan; there are, how ever, numerous European missions established thronghout the province, while the Moslem faith has many adherents. A large number of well-attended schools, Government and otherwise, exist, and the advantages of education nre much sought after.

It may be said of the Yoruba that he is to-day the readiest of all the tribes of Southern Nigeria, possibly in all tropical West Atrica, to adopt, and to adapt himself to, that "civilization " which British rule deems good for him.

Turning to the Central and Eastern Provinces, we find, with few exceptions, the pure-bred Inokun or Aro of the Ibo race, the Bini of the Benin territories, and the Igarra with his wonderfully organised feudal system--a congeries of tribes speaking a multitude of different languages and dialects, all in degree somewhat inferior to the Yoruba-speaking people.

Of these tribes, the lowest in the social scale are undoubtedly the Ibibios and the fishing folk of the creek region of the Nigen delta: these people have the most degraded customs, and lent lives Between these lowest
the Cross River tribes, the Efiks of Calabar, the Jekris, Ijaws, and Sobos of the Central Provinee, and the various Iho-speaking tribes of the country lying between the Niger and Cross Rivers-all of them inferior to the Yoruba of the Western Provinee, but superior in various degrees to the Ibibio and Niger delta people.

Threads like this ought to be deleted if nairaland mods and admins aren't actually hypocrites

Over 100 years together, Yoruba has never depends on SE for anything and reverse has always be the case.

ZombieDredd:
Lookie here

The white man was right in his letter
Keep lying to yourself so you can sleep well tonight

IbnB:
Threads like this ought to be deleted if nairaland mods and admins aren't actually hypocrites

Deleted because of what?

kettykin:
Any person that believes this needs a course in AI and History

By 1910, when the said article was reportedly written, both Liberia and Haiti had already produced presidents of Igbo origin, this a testament to the far-reaching influence and leadership legacy of the Igbo people across the Black world.

By 1910 igbos have already fought for the independence of a lot of countries and become their presidents

What does Iboe origin mean?

You mean they took them as slaiives to Haiti as Iboe and then make them president?

If I go into a forest and take a chimp and keep him in a zoo in Atlanta, does that make the forest I took the chimp from developed or it makes other chimp developed?

sagitariusbaby:
remember the Igarra mentioned here has nothing to do with Igala of Kogi state which is by the way in the North. Igarra is in present day Edo state and they are a well organised and civilised people.

I have been to Igarra. The older people in Igarra spoke fluent Yoruba and think they are somehow linked with the Yoruba or maybe got influenced by the Yoruba because of close proximity.

They are very organized too and I love that town.

LegendHero:
I have been to Igarra. The older people in Igarra spoke fluent Yoruba and think they are somehow linked with the Yoruba or maybe got influenced by the Yoruba because of close proximity.

They are very organized too and I love that town.

oh yes, they are. I was there earlier this year and u can't believe the level of development and changes I met unlike my last time. I love it there, they aee nice and hospitable

risos:
They needed to infiltrated west Africa with the help of an indigenous ally, they were receiving wotowoto from the creek dwellers in the riverine areas, history described the numerous wars they had to fight with these tribes they described as inferior to the yorubas, history has it that the unlucky folks from Europe were eaten.
I have never ready in history a time when the yorubas went to war with the white bandits and terrorists who arrived from Europe.

But you read how it was mainly the Yorubas that fought for Nigeria's independence, right? Or about the following by an international newspaper after independence?

ZombieDredd:
Keep consoling yourself

You'd know a lot about consoling. That's what you deveropers do all the time (eg, consoling yourself using laughing emojis when it is clear to everyone the pain and agony in your heart).

IbnB:
Threads like this ought to be deleted if nairaland mods and admins aren't actually hypocrites

Threads like this ought to be deleted because of the agony they bring to your soul. FIFY.

grandstar:
Though I am proud of my tribe Yoruba, we should understand that this was written over 100 years ago.

Heck, the ancestors of this article were living in caves when the Romans got to Britain around 50 B.C.E

Even the Gauls (ancestors of the French, and the Goths, ancestors of the Germans were quite primitive compared to the Romans and Greeks.

Now, the Gucci shoe is on the other foot. The British, German, and French economies based on per capita income alone are higher than that of Italy and Greece.

We are all equal before God, all EQUAL!

No tribe or race is higher than the other.

We are Not Equal ... Soul Pass soul ...

If you do what Dangote soul does ... You will Die if you ain't on same soul(Energy) level as Dangote ....

We ain't Equal before God ....

Nation pass Nation

Human pass Human ...

Nevertheless, No Nation is Saint(Perfect) ....

We all have Distinct Values and are Complements to one another Not Competitions!