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madridguy:
But if northern leaders fall for the ethnic traps laid in these appointments by rejecting their own sons because of linguistic or cultural labels, they will not only vindicate Tinubu’s divisive calculations but also weaken the North’s moral claim to unity. The region’s future strength will rest on its ability to see through the politics of symbolic baiting and recognize substance where others see difference.

They understood what Tinubu has done, and knows they are already weaken by his appointment...

They will largely be silent and even be smiling, but deep inside of them, they are crying.

I live amongst them and know what I am saying.

I am not a fan of Tinubu, but the truth is, no politician can collect power from him.

Mr Kperogi, I agree with your write up and can see through your intention to assuage Nothern conservatives from raising eye brow.
However, that in itself has exposed that some are more northern than others; and some are only useful tools by others to achieve "Northern" goals.
I'm not sure if that's a palatable pill to swallow by any one.
One North is a hoax

ariesbull:
This is what I have experienced...many YORUBA or so called yoruba sounding names from that region hate to be called yoruba even the writer said it also

Not everyone who bear Yoruba name is Yoruba. I know many who are not Yoruba who bear Yoruba names. Don't confuse them for Yoruba. If you are not Yoruba then you are not Yoruba.

I know people who don't bear Yoruba names and even have a variant of Yoruba that sounds differently but openly declare that they are Yoruba who migrated from Ile Ife and Oyo. One of such are the Ogori and Magongo In Kogi State. Here's from one of the traditional leaders and Elders confirming that they are Yoruba yet they no longer prominently bear Yoruba names
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=628980006393787&id=100078453782249

Here's a thread on the history of the Ogori and Magongo In Kogi State
https://www.nairaland.com/2828611/history-ogori-magongo-kogi-state


The real Yoruba will not deny being Yoruba and none of your people had openly opposed the move of the Obas and leaders consistently demanding to be merged with their Yoruba kith and kin in the South West

One thing about the Yoruba is that we won't force you to be Yoruba. We already have a positive brand strength locally and globally. It's a oss to anyone who is not Yoruba.

Coldspice:
Why can't Pdp give Igbos their ticket?
If you give an Igbo man APC ticket, what is the guarantee that they will vote APC?

Largely, Igbos are not reliable as per Nigerian politics, neither do they possess the political capital to exert the much required relevance or influence. I would rather look elsewhere, I mean other ethnicities, for realiable alliances to explore new vibrant possibilities, away from predictable permutations. This is what the Northerners are known for, Mr President is only beginning to practice same.

The Igbo politics has a messy history jare. 😏

FreeStuffsNG:
Not everyone who bear Yoruba name is Yoruba. I know many who are not Yoruba who bear Yoruba names. Don't confuse them for Yoruba. If you are not Yoruba then you are not Yoruba.

I know people who don't bear Yoruba names and even have a variant of Yoruba that sounds differently but openly declare that they are Yoruba who migrated from Ile Ife and Oyo. One of such are the Of Ogori And Magongo In Kogi State. Here's from one of the traditional leaders and Elders confirming that they are Yoruba yet they no longer prominently bear Yoruba names
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=628980006393787&id=100078453782249

Here's a thread on the history of the


The real Yoruba will not deny being Yoruba and none of your people had openly opposed the move of the Obas and leaders consistently demanding to be merged with their Yoruba kith and kin in the South West

Why do we argue a lot ..I have seen many people from Kogi even Ondo that would tell you they aren't YORUBA ..I know of someone from Kabba that said she isn't YORUBA

Even the writer confirmed it ..so what's the baisi of argument with all these screenshots

I am telling you what I experienced and you are sending me newspapers cuttings

omooba969:
Largely, Igbos are not reliable as per Nigerian politics, neither do they possess the political capital to exert the much required relevance or influence. I would rather look elsewhere, I mean other ethnicities, for realiable alliances to explore new vibrant possibilities, away from predictable permutations. This is what the Northerners are known for, Mr President is only beginning to practice same.

The Igbo politics has a messy history jare. 😏

why is it that most times it's always the pot that call the kettle black


A hausaan wrote an article you are crying over an igbo

ariesbull:
why is it that most times it's always the pot that call the kettle black


A hausaan wrote an article you are crying over an igbo

Check the comment I responded to.

Always look before you leap ok.

ariesbull:
Why do we argue a lot ..I have seen many people from Kogi even Ondo that would tell you they aren't YORUBA ..I know of someone from Kabba that said she isn't YORUBA

Even the writer confirmed it ..so what's the baisi of argument with all these screenshots

I am telling you what I experienced and you are sending me newspapers cuttings

You're the one putting mouth on what you don't understand.

If you are not Yoruba then you are not Yoruba, it doesn't matter whether he or she tells you or bears Yoruba name or speak Yoruba. It means nothing to the Yoruba.

You are not Yoruba then you are not Yoruba tọkan tọkan. Don't make issues out of it. One thing about the Yoruba is that the Yoruba will protect the Yoruba and promote the interest of the Yoruba

The screenshot is to educate you on the official position of the Okun royal traditional institutions who are the custodian of cultural history and identity. You can argue with the Okun Obas and chiefs citing the opinion of an outsider or your informant. It moves no needle.

Whoever is appointed will always be seen to mean whatever they perceive rightly or wrongly. If the guy is from Kogi they should accept him as a Northerner they always want but his Yoruba ethnicity is the worry.

Tjra:
So, that Northerner is now called a Yoruba man?

The North will deal with Tinubu.
The North never forgets
The votes of Northerners is the decider.
North Central people are Northerners.
North Central votes is on locked down for Obi.

Tinubu appointed a Northerner to show he is committed to a free and fair elections and he is not afraid of anything.

Now, the story has changed to he is appointing Northern Yorubas.

FreeStuffsNG:
You're the one putting mouth on what you don't understand.

If you are not Yoruba then you are not Yoruba, it doesn't matter whether he or she tells you or bears Yoruba name or speak Yoruba. It means nothing to the Yoruba.

You are not Yoruba then you are not Yoruba tọkan tọkan. Don't make issues out of it. One thing about the Yoruba is that the Yoruba will protect the Yoruba and promotetheinterest of the Yoruba

The screenshot is to educate you on the official position of the Okun royal traditional institutions who are the custodian of cultural history and identity. You can argue with the Okun Obas and chiefs citing the opinion of an outsider or yourinformant. It moves no needle.

What is wrong with you guys and emotions

I am telling you that I have seen many people from Okun and Kabba that said they aren't YORUBA ...they told me personally and even I have seen many Ondo that say they aren't YORUBA

Even the writer collaborated that

ariesbull:
This is what I have experienced...many YORUBA or so called yoruba sounding names from that region hate to be called yoruba even the writer said it also

Hàte is an inappropriate word to use.

ariesbull:
What is wrong with you guys and emotions

I am telling you that I have seen many people from Okun and Kabba that said they aren't YORUBA ...they told me personally and even I have seen many Ondo that say they aren't YORUBA

Even the writer collaborated that

This is immaterial.

EarthKing:
The president having the power to choose the INEC president, has flawed them as an independent institution.

It's like Madrid choosing a referee in a game against an opposition and expecting the referee not to be bias.


That is where electoral malpractice emanate from. Not even the snatching of boxes. The electoral law must put this into cognizance if we must make headway with our electoral process.

It didn't start with Tinubu, neither will it end with Asiwaju. So stop capping .

The greater injustice is when good men refuse to speak in the face of evil. I've played my part by speaking up. If this is the kind of country you and your Tinubu wants to leave for next generation to come, so be it.

Dapson73:
It didn't start with Tinubu, neither will it end with Asiwaju. So stop capping .

casualobserver:
You asked for 2.

Professor Taslim Elias law
Professor Wole Soyinka arts
Professor JF Ade Ajayi history
Professor Akinjogbin. history
Professor Animalu, Ezeilo
Professor Adegoke geology
Professor Fafunwa Education
Professor Mabogunje geography
Professor iya abubakar maths
Professor Biobaku history
Professor Sam Aluko economics
Professor oliwasanmi agric
Professor Kasunmu law
Professor onwunmechili physics
Professor olubumo
Professor Tejumola
Professor Ishaya Audu medicine

There are many more Nigerian professors acclaimed all over the world in the academic community.

The true test at an academic is your contribution to new knowledge in that field.. Anybody can teach what is already known. Your respect within the academic community is founded on your contribution to new knowledge..hence research It is your pioneering work in that field that turns you into a source of reference and citations. not by writing yeye articles.

There is no university in the world where these men listed above are not recognized and referenced as leading lights in their fields. Who references Kperogi? I can guarantee you just by the pedigree of his university alone that no one knows who korerofi is outside Nigeria even in his own field. If he was a leading light in his field he would not be teaching at kennesaw state university. He is there because that is the university that will employ him. Columbia, Yale, Harvard, Oxford, MIT, LSE etc have liberal arts departments. Nigerians teach and have taught in these universities, why is teaching he in a 3rd or 4th rate university?


You are likely a product of the Nigerian educational system post Babangida era and people like you don’t know the difference. I can guarantee you that if any of those professors gave you a letter of recommendation to any top university in the world, you will be admitted such is their status. Kperugi’s name means nothing except in Nigeria. The anigerian professors abroad who are rated amongst their peers don’t have time to interfere with what’s going on in Nigeria. Kperogi needs Nigeria to be relevant because he is not rated amongst his peers abroad.

Thank you for your time in listing all these laudable Professors.

Firstly, kperogi is not in the league of many professors you listed above but he's equally a force to reckon with among his peers. And again comparing with elite Professor like Prof. Wole Soyinka is argument taking so far.

Instead of showing us where is teaching currently, I would have love you to show us his any of research publications and citations, if there's any relevant of his academic scholarship or not than where is lecturing.

Once again thank you but know that even if kperogi is not among elitist, he's not mediocre as you are trying to portray him.

BrightFuture48:
Thank you for your time in listing all these laudable Professors.

Firstly, kperogi is not in the league of many professors you listed above but he's equally a force to reckon with among his peers. And again comparing with elite Professor like Prof. Wole Soyinka is argument taking so far.

Instead of showing us where is teaching currently, I would have love you to show us his any of research publications and citations, if there's any relevant of his academic scholarship or not than where is lecturing.

Once again thank you but know that even if kperogi is not among elitist, he's not mediocre as you are trying to portray him.

Amongst which peers? That’s the issue! Which peer rates a professor in a 3rd or 4th rate university rate?

If he were a leading light he would not be teaching at Kennesaw state university. None of the professors in Nigerians leading universities plied their trade in 2nd or 3rd rate universities. Even when things got hard and some went abroad they were employed by the Harvard’s, Columbia’s Oxford and Cambridges of this world.

You need to understand or theythat in academia your CV is everything. Once you taint it with Kennesaw state university, nobody reckons with you.

He may be a force in Nigeria as per country of the blind but not internationally, not even in America where he teaches, else he would have moved to a better university or they would have head hunted him

Kperogi is like the japa who cleans toilets abroad then comes back to spend pounds at Xmas and people think he is a big guy abroad and doing well.

Godjone:
I have never met a man that is as tribal as tonubu.

The started this tribal nonsense the moment they lost Lagos State to the opposition labour party.

Because of this lost, they brought omo ibo politics to the extent denied the young labour governorship candidate his right.

What baffles me most is the followers

I'm sorry to ask; how old are you? Tinubu is the most detribalize political leader in Nigeria. Ask your uncles and Aunts that worked worked in Lagos state civil service.

Ibos joined the political class in Lagos state especially areas where they are the majority. He gave them appointments in his cabinet.

He paid WAEC/NECO fees of students in government schools in which during his tenure, Ibos were many in government schools in Lagos state. No segregation.

Jonathan could have saved himself by sacking Jega but he listens to too much advice
Tinubu is not Jonathan, El Rufai take note

omooba969:
This is immaterial.

well your emotions doesn't stop Seun from telling me she isn't Yoruba .... And thank lord the writer even said that

Benbellamor:
Jonathan could have saved himself by sacking Jega but he listens to too much advice
Tinubu is not Jonathan, El Rufai take note

he was a weakling

ariesbull:
We don't have YORUBA in Kogi and Kwara

Those people are not yoruba many of them aren't and don't like to be called yoruba ..example are the Okun and Kabba people

Many of them don't like being called yoruba and the article pointed it out ! But it's being smart by half

Where do you get this information? We Yorùbá from North Central are always linguistically and culturally in consonance with Yorubas in the South West.

Farooqu ! Listen to you in summary : Tinubu's appointment of a North Central christain indigene as INEC chairman is ostensibly to make it look like a northern appointment while really the professor is a Yoruba according to Mr I too know , but Buhari can straight up appoint core north Hausa-fulani INEC chair and chief justice and even retire dozens of senior General's to appoint one of his own as COAS and Nigerians can go on with their daily lives . All you Northerners are the same from top to bottom . Just because the name of head of the the electoral body of Nigeria is not Sadiq ibn mohamed from North central . Please try and advocate for the removal of north central governors from the northern governors forum meetings especially that kogi and kwara that includes those Tinubu people among their fold . Tribal Bigdiots!

JASONjnr:
But again, why are we stressing on this when clearly we know that Kogi state is in the North Central of Nigeria....

The tribe doesn't matter but the region is what we care about, constitutionally.

Also, Congratulations to Prof. Amupitan.

Farooq A. Kperogi is from Kwara and is only being sinister and diabolical in his writings because untill 1991, when Kogi state was created Prof. Amupitan used to be in the same state of Kwara as Farooq A. Kperogi

Farooq A. Kperogi is not even Hausa nor Fulani himself. Farooq A. Kperogi is from Kwara. This is the Farooq A. Kperogi who declared a Fulani man from Kwara as not northern when Tinubu appointed Mr. Bayo Ojulari as NNPC GMD

casualobserver:
Amongst which peers? That’s the issue! Which peer rates a professor in a 3rd or 4th rate university rate?

If he were a leading light he would not be teaching at Kennesaw state university. None of the professors in Nigerians leading universities plied their trade in 2nd or 3rd rate universities. Even when things got hard and some went abroad they were employed by the Harvard’s, Columbia’s Oxford and Cambridges of this world.

You need to understand or theythat in academia your CV is everything. Once you taint it with Kennesaw state university, nobody reckons with you.

He may be a force in Nigeria as per country of the blind but not internationally, not even in America where he teaches, else he would have moved to a better university or they would have head hunted him

Kperogi is like the japa who cleans toilets abroad then comes back to spend pounds at Xmas and people think he is a big guy abroad and doing well.

You're still saying same thing bro.

Okay pls furnish us with A rated university abroad those you listed above are teaching excluding the notable ones. Like I told you earlier, I am not claiming Kperogi is Elite of sort but yet he's class of his own either you like it not especially in Nigeria political analyst context.

BrightFuture48:
You're still saying same thing bro.

Okay pls furnish us with A rated university abroad those you listed above are teaching excluding the notable ones. Like I told you earlier, I am not claiming Kperogi is Elite of sort but yet he's class of his own either you like it not especially in Nigeria political analyst context.

So long as you accept that it is in Nigeria where he standards have fallen, where people like Rufai parade themselves as journalists that Kperogi is a leading light, then we are on the same page.

My standards are the standards set when I was growing up by some of the professors I listed above, not the standards of today which I guess are your standards. A man like Kperogi would never get beyond senior lecturer in the Nigerian universities of old….such were the standards. And by the way, you become senior lecturer as a matter of length of service not brilliance.

The professors I listed above taught only in the elite universities abroad. In those days Nigeria recruited only from he elite universities like Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, mit, Yale, LSE etc. you will not get a job as a lecturer in ABu, UI, Ife, Unilag with a degree from anything other than an Ivy League university. In fact you were better of graduating from UI, Unilag ABU, Ife etc than graduating from a 2nd tier university abroad. That was those days! Many of them are dead or retired now.

Jammythebless:
This man is dam brilliant, this is unaggureablly one of the best article have read from this man
Infact the best I've read in recent times

For the records am from delta state but my intellectual mind sees beyond the parochial and sentimental attachments on this platform.
I have a cerebral cum objective mind

I quite agree with you. The article is crafty setup to promote NC inclusion without showing it.

Pkerogi being from NC see an opportunity of inclusion being denied by the core north each time they are in power, his concern was just that Tinubus appointment conveyed a Yoruba identity which he feels may not benefit his ethnic group within the NC.
His wish were so loud on the North towing similar part when it gets to their turn.

The article is well written and show his brilliance and cunny nature.

Pkerogi is like a skilled driver who drives recklessly when he passes his crush doormout

casualobserver:
So long as you accept that it is in Nigeria where he standards have fallen, where people like Rufai parade themselves as journalists that Kperogi is a leading light, then we are on the same page.

My standards are the standards set when I was growing up by some of the professors I listed above, not the standards of today which I guess are your standards. A man like Kperogi would never get beyond senior lecturer in the Nigerian universities of old….such were the standards. And by the way, you become senior lecturer as a matter of length of service not brilliance.

The professors I listed above taught only in the elite universities abroad. In those days Nigeria recruited only from he elite universities like Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, mit, Yale, LSE etc. you will not get a job as a lecturer in ABu, UI, Ife, Unilag with a degree from anything other than an Ivy League university. In fact you were better of graduating from UI, Unilag ABU, Ife etc than graduating from a 2nd tier university abroad. That was those days! Many of them are dead or retired now.

Lol.... we're literally saying the same thing now.

The general standard of education in Nigeria has fallen drastically, and you cannot compare those professors of old which majority of them got there degrees abroad or be taught by thorough bred professor here in Nigeria. FOI I finish my first degree over two decades ago not more than 5 when Kperogi got his.

You may be older though but in the context of Nigeria socio political discourse today, Kperogi has established is solid footing.

Thank you for your time.

BrightFuture48:
Lol.... we're literally saying the same thing now.

The general standard of education in Nigeria has fallen drastically, and you cannot compare those professors of old which majority of them got there degrees abroad or be taught by thorough bred professor here in Nigeria. FOI I finish my first degree over two decades ago not more than 5 when Kperogi got his.

You may be older though but in the context of Nigeria socio political discourse today, Kperogi has established is solid footing.

Thank you for your time.

We’ve always been saying the same thing in a way, you just suddenly realized it. To start with I was never interested in nor did I make any comment on the substance of his article. It seems it took you a while to realize that. Now it seems you’ve finally realized that he is only rated in Nigeria, which is what I had been saying from the start.

That you are a one eyed man amongst the blind does not mean you aren’t visually impaired. You still have only one eye, which means you don’t see well. You don’t have full sight and that has been my point abinitio.

Because I have 2 eyes, I can’t be led by a man with 1 eye so to me he will always be a defective man. To those who have no eyes they are free to make him their leader but they should also note that by having only one eye, he is also visually impaired just not as visually impaired as the blind and so he could lead them astray. That’s my point.

simpleseyi:
The next President is going to be a Yoruba from Kwara to take the slot of the North Central. Dem go cry tire

In your small mind you think Nigeria starts and ends in your region. Wetin happen to Abacha go be child's play if Emilokan try am

ariesbull:
We don't have YORUBA in Kogi and Kwara

Those people are not yoruba many of them aren't and don't like to be called yoruba ..example are the Okun and Kabba people

Many of them don't like being called yoruba and the article pointed it out ! But it's being smart by half

I am an Okun man whose ancestors migrated from ancient Ile-Ife to Okun land in the present day Kogi West. What you have just stated is a very big lie because I am a full-blooded Yoruba man...

The spread of the Yoruba ethnic group indigenous natives transcend even the shores of Nigeria and can even be found in places like the Benin Republic, Togo and The Gambia. It is the same scenario for indigenous Hausas in other African countries who are not even Nigerians.

ariesbull:
Why do we argue a lot ..I have seen many people from Kogi even Ondo that would tell you they aren't YORUBA ..I know of someone from Kabba that said she isn't YORUBA

Even the writer confirmed it ..so what's the baisi of argument with all these screenshots

I am telling you what I experienced and you are sending me newspapers cuttings

True, there are some from those parts of Kogi West that categorically say they're not Yorubas, but that is not a general sentiment as you are making it out to be.

ariesbull:
Why do we argue a lot ..I have seen many people from Kogi even Ondo that would tell you they aren't YORUBA ..I know of someone from Kabba that said she isn't YORUBA

Even the writer confirmed it ..so what's the baisi of argument with all these screenshots

I am telling you what I experienced and you are sending me newspapers cuttings

True, there are some from those parts of Kogi West that categorically say they're not Yorubas, but that is not a general sentiment as you are making it out to be.

Concerning Ondo state, there are Ijaw communities and they are right to say they are not Yorubas. Yorubas all over don't argue that.