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TheBizGenius:
The funny part is that you are correct. But you are not looking at it the way Umahi is looking at it.

From what he's explaining, it's like buying 5 apples, 10 oranges, 3 pawpaws and 4 bananas. If you start eating, you can't find the average of all of this together.

But if we had all been shown the Gantt chart used for this, we would have been able to say "Based on schedules and work done, we should have eaten this specific number of each fruit and this is the cost. How much do we have left?".

That's what I understand about it ooo. I no know pass that one.

Umahi way is not the " standard" here, it pretty obvious he has something to i hide we know these people no be today

You don't have to or its even an error to say you want to know the average cost of a cost you've incured .. thats a wrong question

i did smoothie today, i know how much 3 apple cost + bannanas cost + water melon cost me, for instance babe told me water melon should be around #300 per cut buh turns out 500 per cut ..
i knew she gave an average cost so i just addup ...

Quelme:
Mankinde is a senseless governor. An Oluwole engineer who doesn't have a clue about road construction.

Who do you give cost per kilo on a road which transverses different terrain? But Rufai and Makinde are senseless....

I think you’re the one being foolish here. What he was asked for was simply an estimate. Before any road is constructed, factors such as labour, terrain, materials, and a comprehensive feasibility study are taken into account. That’s precisely where the estimated cost per kilometre is determined to guide budgeting and planning.

It’s truly disappointing that your mentor, who calls himself a professor of engineering in practice, could not even provide a basic estimate for the cost of constructing one kilometre of road. People like you are part of the major problem in this country, always eager to defend the indefensible instead of holding leaders accountable.

zero8zero:
Since the figure isn't expected to remain the same throughout the duration, while not wait then?. S journalist that refuses to learn, rather engaging in arguments and posing questions in a manner that suggests he knew more than the minister. He better be left to rot in ignorance. And anyone who thinks he has the knowledge to debate, the minister has thrown down the gauntlet.

Why wait?

Hasn't more money been borrowed for this purpose?

Where is the tracking?

Don't you ask question like these when you pay for services your artisans or vocational workmen do?

Do you pay for services and not get involved in the progression?

So if you give a workman a job to do with pre-allocated funding, and he needs more funding, for you it's no questions asked?

What kind of thinking is this?

yongg:
Why wait? hasn't more money been borrowed for this purpose? Where is the tracking? Don't you ask question like these when you pay for services your artisans or vocational workmen do? Do you pay for services and not get involved in the progression? What kind of thinking is this?

He should learn to ask th right questions, perhaps enrolling in school of journalism, obviously he's not a trained journalist. He is political and any opposition going on his show already know what to expect. Seun of Channels would have had a different outcome from the minister if he was in his shoe.

Putindbutt:
He should learn to ask th right questions, perhaps enrolling in school of journalism, obviously he's not a trained journalist. He is political and any opposition going on his show already know what to expect. Seun of Channels would have had a different outcome from the minister if he was in his shoe.

Those questions were right. He is (arguably) blameless here. He did the job right.

Umahi should learn to serve (this is crazy to say knowing his experience in service as ex-governor should have shone here).


Even corporate entities deliver reports as frequently as weekly, even daily, telling us or Rufai to wait is like saying corporate entities shouldn't ask for progress reports they should only wait for year ends or until project ends.

TheBizGenius:
I have a first degree in mechanical engineering and I am disappointed in what Makinde said.

If you have a road project that transverses

A. over marshy areas and you have to sand fill,

B. over water and you have to build a bridge and

C. over hard soil and you simply lay your asphalt on it,

how do you get the average cost of such a project?

But I also understand that Umahi dey hide figures to dey chop as naija politician anyway but professionally, he is right.

Make I no even mention the Arise broadcaster own. Mtchew.

Having a degree in mechanical engineering doesn’t automatically make one an authority on civil works or project management they’re completely different fields. Makinde was speaking from the standpoint of governance and transparency.
Yes, terrain differences affect cost, but that’s exactly why public officials must disclose the breakdown instead of hiding behind technicalities. Umahi might be experienced, but his refusal to provide detailed figures fuels suspicion, not professionalism. Transparency in public projects isn’t optional.
You can’t justify secrecy just because the engineering is complex.

All these long talk for a simple 3 or 4 worded answer
Even the foolish will understand that something is fishy 😎

yongg:
Those questions were right. He is (arguably) blameless here.

Umahi should learn to serve.

Go watch the video, Rufai was rude and combative ontop of his being ignorant. I followed through the arguments and I am impressed with everyone involved. But I feel like his attitude irked the honourable minister.

-Kiss the truth!

Just tell him the cost of 1km and you are speaking Grammer....

It's just 4bulluon per km

Electrical Engineer (elect-elect) or not oga minister you're still dancing around numbers

TimeManager:
Go watch the video, Rufai was rude and combative ontop of his being ignorant. I followed through the arguments and I am impressed with everyone involved. But I feel like his attitude irked the honourable minister.

-Kiss the truth!

Well if you ask me, the combative spot would be where he said something along the lines of "keep * yourself, let the world know who you are" but way before it got there it was fair. Umahi like got pre-heated or something because of feeling Rufai was too small or something. The source of the heat has got to be before the interview took place because I didn't see the need to have responded to Rufai that way if indeed it was the case that he was "too small". There wasn't any need for him to pick offense there.


Also the question was not ignorant. You seem to think because someone else outside a profession or expertise not using the correct or specific jargon translates to ignorance, you are mistaken. The Onus is on the professional to adequately inform the client or layman common to both. The issue hear is not Rufai, it is the communication failure of the minister. Infact, even if you assume Rufai were misinformed, ignorant and what not, he will have a lot more leeway compared to the expert public official.

yongg:
Well if you ask me, the combative spot would be where he said something along the lines of "keep * yourself, let the world know who you are" but way before it got there it was fair. Umahi like got pre-heated or something because of feeling Rufai was too small or something. The source of the heat has got to be before the interview took place because I didn't see the need to have responded to Rufai that way if indeed it was the case that he was "too small". There wasn't any need for him to pick offense there.

Coming on the show, the honourable minister was as calm as a cucumber. Rufai triggered him when he told the minister he reported him ( Rufai) to the President. The statement triggered the minister's response. Rufai should try separate professionalism from politics, he has had lots of heated moments with members of the opposition which he feels is giving him more fame and popularity. I already suggested you go watch the video, you'd have a better clarity.

-Kiss the truth!

TimeManager:
Coming on the show, the honourable minister was as calm as a cucumber. Rufai triggered him when he told the minister he reported him ( Rufai) to the President. The statement triggered the minister's response. Rufai should try separate professionalism from politics, he has had lots of heated moments with members of the opposition which he feels is giving him more fame and popularity. I already suggested you go watch the video, you'd have a better clarity.

-Kiss the truth!

I beg to disagree here.

This is because he actually did referenced Arise in one of the public (is it speech or hearing) sessions with stakeholders. So if that was not a lie why get triggered at that point. There was no need. Infact, he would have effortlessly out-classed any event of attempted pressure or whatsoever.

Yorunas wants to distract imahi...then blame him for tinubu failures

TheBizGenius:
I have a first degree in mechanical engineering and I am disappointed in what Makinde said.

If you have a road project that transverses

A. over marshy areas and you have to sand fill,

B. over water and you have to build a bridge and

C. over hard soil and you simply lay your asphalt on it,

how do you get the average cost of such a project?

But I also understand that Umahi dey hide figures to dey chop as naija politician anyway but professionally, he is right.

Make I no even mention the Arise broadcaster own. Mtchew.

you are really making sense unlike the other dingbats quoting me. Thumbs up

Tinubu is using you to steal
He’ll get presidential immunity but you will not
Be ready to answer after your tenure

Oga give us cost per KM how is that hard ehh

unitysheart:
Very sound reasoning and position. Engineering no be moi moi.

Umahi, is that you?

Quelme:
Mankinde is a senseless governor. An Oluwole engineer who doesn't have a clue about road construction.

How do you give cost per kilo on a road which transverses different terrain? Both Rufai and Makinde are senseless....

Lol, so how did they come about the total cost then?

In the project BOQ, each of the sections you highlighted has specific unit prices for road components. So, based on the work already completed/payment made, the onus is on the minister to provide information about the aggregated cost per kilometer of any section of the road to the public.

TheBizGenius:
I have a first degree in mechanical engineering and I am disappointed in what Makinde said.

If you have a road project that transverses

A. over marshy areas and you have to sand fill,

B. over water and you have to build a bridge and

C. over hard soil and you simply lay your asphalt on it,

how do you get the average cost of such a project?

But I also understand that Umahi dey hide figures to dey chop as naija politician anyway but professionally, he is right.

Make I no even mention the Arise broadcaster own. Mtchew.

umaih is just dancing naked around the figures , just one question and he is all over talking ike a parrot . the cost per kilometer in the final bill of quantities he signed on behalf of Nigeria government and which finally accumulated to the cost of 15trillion naira is how much ?very simple question , whether an amount will be left unspent isnt the issue , he should just tell Nigerians how they arrived at 15 trillion . what he doesnt know is that the way he is shying away from answring the question has actually shown that he has something to hide .
dos that mean that if the world bank asks him for the cost of per kilometer before granting nigeria future loan , he will tell them to allow the project to complete before he can know the cost ?

This is the most expensive road project in the World, pertaining to cost per kilometre.
The total project costs 15 trillion and it's made up of a total of 750 kilometres.
If you calculate everything it gives you a cost per kilometre of 20 billion....in a lay man's term that's the cost! INCREDULOUS

004gist:
You don't know how much is cost per km?
At least give us average let's know

So why did they tell us from the start that it will be a 15 trillion naira project ?
With your reasoning it shows there was no feasibility studies done on the project ..

Quelme:
Mankinde is a senseless governor. An Oluwole engineer who doesn't have a clue about road construction.

How do you give cost per kilo on a road which transverses different terrain? Both Rufai and Makinde are senseless....

It's 20 billion per kilometre

U09ce:
Umahi is still dancing around. As uncertain as the quantities of petroleum underground are, subsurface professionals provide estimates each with its corresponding probability of recovery. But here we are with a common road project that's resistant to average cost per kilometer. Lol. Makinde himself is said to have a company where he has executed several projects so he's not to be underrated by 'professor' Umahi.

By the way I guess why he'd refused to reveal the cost is because it'd be indefensible. The cost appears to be far beyond the 4 billion per km that was been purported when the project started.

kai , this apc party has finished nigeria , the way and manner they will buy votes in 2027 general electon will be unmatched .

sorepco:
It's 20 billion per kilometre

Manny21:
Continue to fire back fire for fire. This guy is a clown

“I am his senior both in governance and in engineering practice. So, anything he doesn’t understand, he should call me and ask."

He has not changed. Very proud and arrogant

Very proud actually.

Maxymilliano:
https://punchng.com/umahi-fires-back-at-makinde-over-lagos-calabar-highway-cost/?fbclid=Iwb21leANXclpjbGNrA1dx7WV4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEejjyeWfa6fV_1loavH60843Ms1phqtqVpJkOEc0xReatw8rbstzSlvHWG1z8_aem_NrThhU2fPOIMFgvxQtduow#google_vignette

Isese ooo isese oooo
So na electrical electrical professor in practice dey do road 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nigeria my dear country
Wonders shall never end......
Am your senior , you're my senior na him remain to use now
Rufai.....come ooooo
Come and see your oga ooooo

Quelme:
Mankinde is a senseless governor. An Oluwole engineer who doesn't have a clue about road construction.

How do you give cost per kilo on a road which transverses different terrain? Both Rufai and Makinde are senseless....

Thus far, how much has the road built cost you per KM?

It is very simple question… no need dancing around the question.

sorepco:
It's 20 billion per kilometre

Your source?