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MetalJigsaw:
1 John 5:7 :

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Matthew 28:19 " Therefore go and Baptize in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit"

CASE CLOSED🚫

Snatch yourself from satan . This is an opportunity. Jesus Loves you

Screenshots evidence.
"There are three that testify "(Genuine 1 Jn5:7)
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Textus Receptus forgery which every diligent Bible student & Greek scholars are aware of, you are bringing to this thread kwa.
Oga Steep can confirm that KJV 1 Jn 5:7 is a forgery.


Please Google "comma johaneum" or "Textus Receptus forgery of 1 John 5:7" now & find out the truth.

Oga, stop deceiving yourself.

Steep:
*1
People who deny the trinity.... the oneness penticostals who believe Jesus is the same as the father or Jesus is a part of God. All of them gets the identity of Jesus wrong hence they have a false Christ.

*2
According to the Bible Jesus is fully God and fully man. He is not a part of God and a part of man. He is fully God just as his father is...

*3
there is one divine being but this divine being is three in personhood .

Steep:
I will not waste anymore time with them, they are blind they need prayers.

Steep:
unfortunately you are so blind.

Steep:
Humble yourself, learn what the trinity from the bible pray for God to reveal himself through the scripture to you.
You clearly don't know what you are doing janosky. I pray for God to reveal himself to you.

Steep:
Imagine, they demand what they cannot offer. They are demanding for the word "Trinity" while ignoring terms they also used that is not in the bible.

Emusan:
Trinity isn't a PRACTICE.

Olodo....

Steep:
According to you Jesus is angel Michael right? So where is it written that Jesus is angel Michael?

Janosky:
You teach and practice tithing as you teach and practice Trinity.

Uwha azagha

Janosky:
Screenshots evidence.
"There are three that testify "(Genuine 1 Jn5:7)
.
Textus Receptus forgery which every diligent Bible student & Greek scholars are aware of, you are bringing to this thread kwa.
Oga Steep can confirm that KJV 1 Jn 5:7 is a forgery.


Please Google "comma johaneum" or "Textus Receptus forgery of 1 John 5:7" now & find out the truth.

Oga, stop deceiving yourself.

MetalJigsaw:
Don't pretend you can't comprehend a simple English sentence

What's the difference in all these verses? testify/ bear witnesses all mean the same. You have no point.

MetalJigsaw:
Don't pretend you can't comprehend a simple English sentence

What's the difference in all these verses? testify/ bear witnesses all mean the same. You have no point.

gohf:
but how can "they" be witnessES if they are one and the same person bro?

MetalJigsaw:
They are not one person.

gohf:
so you are saying that God who is the Father of Jesus is not Jesus? Correct?

MetalJigsaw:
Sorry but you sound like a Muslim. Are you one? I need to know so Won't have to waste my time discussing.

gohf:
my guy a question has no religious affiliation, you either have the answer or you don't.

Since you didn't answer the last one, let me ask you another, this should be simple enough

Is God a person or persons?

gohf:
so you are saying that God who is the Father of Jesus is not Jesus? Correct?

MetalJigsaw:
My problem with some people is their blind argument combined with arrogance.

Where did I say I Won't answer?
If you want to engage me in blind argument forget it. But if you genuinely want to know stuff I will answer all your questions. That's what I'm saying.

gohf:
but fact remains you still haven't answered any questions sir

MetalJigsaw:
That's a lie. Didn't you ask whether God is one person and I answered?

Emusan:
Don't let him gaslight you about 1 John 5:7.

The truth of that has been stated many times just that they don't like the Truth.

Here is a LINK of a thread I created in 2020 about the said "Comma Johaneum"

See how all of them were just rambling, the thread even exposed their shallow understanding about Trinity and its history.

MetalJigsaw:
Don't pretend you can't comprehend a simple English sentence

What's the difference in all these verses? testify/ bear witnesses all mean the same. You have no point.

gohf:
but how can "they" be witnessES if they are one and the same person bro?

Janosky:
Go to the link & receive sense.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20John%205%3A7-8&version=NET

Oga, stop deceiving yourself.

Emusan:
Firstly, your link didn't work as it directed me to just Bible Books & chapters.

Lastly, I've already dealt with the propaganda and misinformation about 1 John 5:7 since 2020. The thread is still very much there.

1 John 5:7 is part of God's word and there's nothing people like you can do to remove it.

Emusan:
Firstly, your link didn't work as it directed me to just Bible Books & chapters.

Lastly, I've already dealt with the propaganda and misinformation about 1 John 5:7 since 2020. The thread is still very much there.

Janosky:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20John%205%3A7-8&version=NET

"Our discussion will briefly address the external evidence. This longer reading is found only in ten late mss, four of which have the words in a marginal note. These mss range in date from the 10th century (221) to the 18th (2318). They include the following (with dates in parentheses) 221 (X), 177 (XI), 88 (XII), 429 (XIV), 629 (XIV), 636 (XV), 61 (ca.1520), 918 (XVI), 2473 (1634), and 2318 (XVIII). There are minor variations among these codices. The earliest ms, codex 221, includes the reading in a marginal note, added sometime after the original composition. The oldest ms with the Comma in its text is from the 14th century (629), but the wording here departs from all the other mss in several places. The next oldest mss on behalf of the Comma, 177 (11th century), 88 (12th), 429 (14th), and 636 (15th), also have the reading only as a marginal note (v.l.). Codex 177’s Comma is in a marginal note that must be dated after 1551, the year of the first Greek New Testament with verse numbers added. The remaining mss are from the 16th to 18th centuries. Thus, there is no sure evidence of this reading in any Greek ms until the 14th century (629), and that ms deviates from all others in its wording; the wording that matches what is found in the TR was apparently composed after Erasmus’ Greek NT was published in 1516. Indeed, the Comma appears in no Greek witness of any kind (either ms, patristic, or Greek translation of some other version) until a.d. 1215 (in a Greek translation of the Acts of the Lateran Council, a work originally written in Latin). This is all the more significant since many a Greek Father would have loved such a reading, for it so succinctly affirms the doctrine of the Trinity. The reading seems to have arisen in a fourth century Latin homily in which the text was allegorized to refer to members of the Trinity. From there, it made its way into copies of the Latin Vulgate, the text used by the Roman Catholic Church. The Trinitarian formula (the Comma Johanneum) found a place in the third edition of Erasmus’ Greek NT (1522) because of pressure from the Catholic Church. After his first edition appeared, there arose such a furor over the absence of the Comma that Erasmus needed to defend himself. He argued that he did not put in the Comma because he found no Greek mss that included it. Once one was produced (codex 61, written in ca. 1520), Erasmus apparently felt obliged to include the reading. He became aware of this ms sometime between May of 1520 and September of 1521. In his annotations to his third edition he does not protest the rendering now in his text, as though it were made to order, but he does defend himself from the charge of indolence, noting that he had taken care to find whatever mss he could for the production of his text. In the final analysis, Erasmus probably altered the text because of politico-theologico-economic concerns: He did not want his reputation ruined, nor his Novum Instrumentum to go unsold. Modern advocates of the TR and KJV generally argue for the inclusion of the Comma Johanneum on the basis of heretical motivation by scribes who did not include it. But these same scribes elsewhere include thoroughly orthodox readings—even in places where the TR/Byzantine mss lack them. Further, these advocates argue theologically from the position of divine preservation: Since this verse is in the TR, it must be original. (Of course, this approach is circular, presupposing as it does that the TR = the original text.) [b]In reality, the issue is history, not heresy: How can one argue that the Comma Johanneum goes back to the original text yet does not appear until the 14th century in any Greek mss (and in a form significantly different from what is printed in the TR; the wording of the TR is not found in any Greek mss until the 16th century)? Such a stance does not do justice to the gospel: Faith must be rooted in history. Significantly, the German translation of Luther was based on Erasmus’ second edition (1519) and lacked the Comma. But the KJV translators, basing their work principally on Theodore Beza’s 10th edition of the Greek NT (1598), a work which itself was fundamentally based on Erasmus’ third and later editions (and Stephanus’ editions), popularized the Comma for the English-speaking world. Thus, the Comma Johanneum has been a battleground for English-speaking Christians more than for others. [/b]For a recent discussion of the Comma Johanneum, see Rodrigo Galiza and John W. Reeve, “The Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7–: The Status of Its Textual History and Theological Usage in English, Greek, and Latin,” AUSS 56 (2018) 63–89.

Emusan:
Still repeating the same ignorance