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Kukutente23:
Maybe you should go back and read more of the nuanced opinion

DeepSight:
Examination Question.


For Supernatural Degree in Human Political Relations. Select from the options below.


Question: What has brought the ceasefire in Gaza.


Options (You may select more than one).


1. The recognition of the State of Palestine by European Powers.


2. The singular effort of the President of the United States.


3. The singular effort of the Prime Minister of Israel.


4. Global moral pressure.


5. The conscience of humanity.


6. The efforts of Arab Powers.


7. The IDF.


8. Hamas.


9. The efforts of scholars and thinkers.


10. The efforts of responsible journalists.


11. The flotilla.

12. The unique efforts of South Africa.

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DeepSight:
Examination Question.


For Supernatural Degree in Human Political Relations. Select from the options below.


Question: What has brought the ceasefire in Gaza.


Options (You may select more than one).


1. The recognition of the State of Palestine by European Powers.


2. The singular effort of the President of the United States.


3. The singular effort of the Prime Minister of Israel.


4. Global moral pressure.


5. The conscience of humanity.


6. The efforts of Arab Powers.


7. The IDF.


8. Hamas.


9. The efforts of scholars and thinkers.


10. The efforts of responsible journalists.


11. The flotilla.

12. The unique efforts of South Africa.

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tctrills
unbiased1
kukutente23
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lukuluku69
swesleypepper
smokeyj
emu4life
omoredia
hamzeiz

DeepSight:
Do you see no corelation between the timing of 1 and the quick ceasefire almost immediately after?

Unbiased1:
Different factors brought about this beautiful ceasefire.

1) The IDF and The Israeli Government: The constant bombardment of Gaza and the destruction of the evil axis of terrorists by Israel made Hamas consistently call for a ceasefire, a ceasefire the right wing and even the Prime Minister of Israel never wanted. The Israeli Government stood strong against the whole world to fight for its safety (big thanks to the US for the veto votes at the UN). If Hamas and the Iranian Axis of Terror had the advantage in this war, they wouldn't be calling for a ceasefire.

2) Donald Trump: The biggest player who brought about this ceasefire was Donald Trump. For the first time, a beautiful proposal was brought forth by the greatest President of the US, Donald J Trump. The proposal completely ensured that Hamas was humiliated and also helped Israel accomplish all its goals of this war. Firstly, all the hostages have to be released, both those who are dead and alive. In the same period, Israeli troops are to withdraw to about 50% of Gaza and release about 2000 Palestinian prisoners. After this phase, Hamas must completely disarm and go on exile. Only after this will the Israeli troops completely withdraw from Gaza. Now this why I called the deal a beautiful one, all the Israeli hostages would have been released before the next phase of the deal which means that if Hamas decides not to lay down its arms and surrender/go on exile, Israeli troops will immediately resume the bombing of Gaza and this time around, there will be no hostages in Gaza to be worried about, it will simply be a Jet fighter carpet bombing campaign. Also note that even if Hamas lays down its arms and surrenders, the deal states clearly that the IDF will proceed to dismantle all the tunnel networks in Gaza. Can you see just how humiliating this deal was for Hamas? Billions of dollars wasted on weapons, tunnels, manpower etc all gone just like their terror senior colleagues Hezbollah . Just today at the Israeli parliament, Donald Trump reaffirmed the recognition of Jerusalem as the eternal capital of Israel. Not East Jerusalem or West Jerusalem, but the whole of Jerusalem because, like we argued earlier in the other thread, the division of Jerusalem into 2 is an abomination that should not be accepted by any Jew and persons with common sense. The Prime Minister of Israel also reaffirmed the recognition by Trump and the US, of Israel over the Golan Heights and Judea and Samaria.

Unbiased1:
The recognition of Palestine was a ceremonial waste of time. You and I know this.

DeepSight:
Timing is key. The swiftness from no deal to a deal cannot be divorced from the changing mind of European Powers. Their recognition of Palestine is no joke. It was a huge move which changed every dynamic.

It is wrong to say Trump fears no one. He fears Putin for example. He fears Xi. He fears Kim. He is also known as a huge co/ward. For example he was a draft dodger who faked an injury to avoid going to the war front.

In the minds of too many people he is as bold as a lion but this is far from any truth. Same way many think he is a business genius and this is also the greatest falsehood in history. Many say he makes peace but this again is a huge falsehood. He actually creates injustice, racial hatred, instability and wars.

Most people who worship this man are terribly misguided mostly by religion and a belief in white supremacy. The terrible lies he tells with complete abandon are not seen as bad for them. His penchant for debauchery and abuse of women and minorities is remarkable. His childishness is beyond limit.

A rogue wishes to be considered the greatest man in history and I can tell you 90 per cent of African Christians are so unthinking that they will easily say he is greater than Mandela, Martin Luther King and probably every black creature on the surface of this Earth.

DeepSight:
They have not fully accepted the deal, so far they only accepted the prisoner exchange.

How WILL a deal which hopes to result in "Trump and Blair Gaza" ever work. It will not. This is just temporary and hostilities will obviously resume.

It beats me how you can call TRUMP the greatest US president. Amazing. Where will you put the likes of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and FDR?

Unbiased1:
I hope you know that there are people in the Israeli parliament hoping for the 2nd phase to fail? If you read my post well, you would have seen were I pointed out what will befall Hamas and all of Gaza if Hamas drops the ball at any point especially after all the hostages have been released. As for your list of Great American Presidents, I'm happy you didn't include idiots like Joe Biden and Obama.

Unbiased1:
Lol. I see where you are coming from. You are not angry about the deal, you are just upset about the man behind the deal. Daft Joe Biden couldn't have put up such a deal that humiliates Hamas like this. The fool was too weak and made America look like a laughing stock. Now America has a leader who believes in Peace through Strength. Despite Brazil making noise and romancing with Bricks after Trump imposed tariffs on them, the Brazilian President, just 1 week ago, begged Trump to remove the tariffs through a video call. Call Trump whatever makes you happy, the fact on ground now is that both Israelis and Palestinians are happy about this deal and that's all that matters. And please, don't deceive yourself that Trump fears the leaders of Russia, China, and North Korea. Not even the South Korean President fears Kim neither does the Taiwanese President fear China's Xi talk less of Trump

DeepSight:
The deal is nothing but the entrenchment of apartheid and represents enslavement.

Do you really see Trump as brave? Interesting.

This so cold deal is going to crumble soon.

Also Palestinians are not happy with it. No one is really.

Unbiased1:
Palestinians are not happy with the deal? This is really a major problem in the world today. People sit down in their comfort zone, manufacture fake events in their heads, and accept these events as reality. Tune in to Al-Jazeera live and see how Palestinians are celebrating like crazy. In some uncensored videos, you can hear Palestinians praising the US President while you leftist guys in your WhatsApp group are praying for the deal to fail. You guys never loved Palestinians and you never stood for humanity because if you guys did, you would have been happy with the ceasefire irrespective of who brought the deal. Hope you know that an anti-hamas militia group is currently hunting for Hamas members in the Gaza as we speak? A pro-hamas journalist was gunned down earlier today and more will go down in the coming days. The Palestinians are already turning against Hamas and the number will rise within the coming days. You guys in your leftist WhatsApp group can keep gloating over your fantasies while ignoring the reality in your faces. You described the deal as enslavement, I hope you will call on all the countries involved to pull out their funds in the deal meant to rebuild Gaza. I also think the deal forcing some countries to fund the rebuilding of Gaza is part of the enslavement.

DeepSight:
I presumed you would understand that to mean together with his partner and alter ego in Israel.

DeepSight:
Happiness at a ceasefire after so much slaughter is not to be mistaken for happiness with a deal that makes their enemies their rulers.
Also it is known that Israel is arming some rival gangs to cause mayhem. Just as it once armed Hamas itself.

Finally, rivalries within groups are not unusual.

IT IS RELIGIONISTS who fantasize on false and imaginary things. Such as Trump being the greatest president ever, and such as Jews being God's chosen people.

Also i dont know who can fail to see that a remaining blockade is still imperial enslavement.

DeepSight:
Examination Question.


For Supernatural Degree in Human Political Relations. Select from the options below.


Question: What has brought the ceasefire in Gaza.


Options (You may select more than one).


1. The recognition of the State of Palestine by European Powers.


2. The singular effort of the President of the United States.


3. The singular effort of the Prime Minister of Israel.


4. Global moral pressure.


5. The conscience of humanity.


6. The efforts of Arab Powers.


7. The IDF.


8. Hamas.


9. The efforts of scholars and thinkers.


10. The efforts of responsible journalists.


11. The flotilla.

12. The unique efforts of South Africa.

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tctrills
unbiased1
kukutente23
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lukuluku69
swesleypepper
smokeyj
emu4life
omoredia
hamzeiz

Unbiased1:
There was no blockade of Gaza until Hamas unfortunately won that election in 2007. Israel and Egypt could not sit by and watch a terrorist group build itself at their borders. The blockade was necessary to prevent Hamas from getting weapons. Obviously Israel and Egypt failed miserably at that. The blockade will continue until Palestinians embrace peace and stop plotting to destroy Israel.

tctrills:
You once ask me to prescribe a solution to the conflict and I told you that we have to stop pampering the Palestinians.
Give them a take it or leave it deal. Don't restrain Israel anymore. I guess someone was listening (Trump).
An unrestrained Israel was able to shake Iran, Hezbollah and all other Hamas friends including Qatar.
Israel was going to finish off Hamas that's the only reason why Hamas could accept a deal that is not good for them.
They will lose all power in Gaza and become massively irrelevant.
This is called peace through strength.

Kukutente23:
You're simply too presumptuous
Words should carry their ordinary meaning
Innuendos usually lead to malice

DeepSight:
It is not possible to destroy Hamas. Every last Palestinian will have to be killed including all those in diaspora, and all children and descendants every where in the world. The reason for this is not that every Palestinian belongs to Hamas. The reason is that it is impossible to tell every one who belongs to it.

Unbiased1:
Different factors brought about this beautiful ceasefire.

1) The IDF and The Israeli Government: The constant bombardment of Gaza and the destruction of the evil axis of terrorists by Israel made Hamas consistently call for a ceasefire, a ceasefire the right wing and even the Prime Minister of Israel never wanted. The Israeli Government stood strong against the whole world to fight for its safety (big thanks to the US for the veto votes at the UN). If Hamas and the Iranian Axis of Terror had the advantage in this war, they wouldn't be calling for a ceasefire.

2) Donald Trump: The biggest player who brought about this ceasefire was Donald Trump. For the first time, a beautiful proposal was brought forth by the greatest President of the US, Donald J Trump. The proposal completely ensured that Hamas was humiliated and also helped Israel accomplish all its goals of this war. Firstly, all the hostages have to be released, both those who are dead and alive. In the same period, Israeli troops are to withdraw to about 50% of Gaza and release about 2000 Palestinian prisoners. After this phase, Hamas must completely disarm and go on exile. Only after this will the Israeli troops completely withdraw from Gaza. Now this why I called the deal a beautiful one, all the Israeli hostages would have been released before the next phase of the deal which means that if Hamas decides not to lay down its arms and surrender/go on exile, Israeli troops will immediately resume the bombing of Gaza and this time around, there will be no hostages in Gaza to be worried about, it will simply be a Jet fighter carpet bombing campaign. Also note that even if Hamas lays down its arms and surrenders, the deal states clearly that the IDF will proceed to dismantle all the tunnel networks in Gaza. Can you see just how humiliating this deal was for Hamas? Billions of dollars wasted on weapons, tunnels, manpower etc all gone just like their terror senior colleagues Hezbollah . Just today at the Israeli parliament, Donald Trump reaffirmed the recognition of Jerusalem as the eternal capital of Israel. Not East Jerusalem or West Jerusalem, but the whole of Jerusalem because, like we argued earlier in the other thread, the division of Jerusalem into 2 is an abomination that should not be accepted by any Jew and persons with common sense. The Prime Minister of Israel also reaffirmed the recognition by Trump and the US, of Israel over the Golan Heights and Judea and Samaria.

3) The Arab League: These guys gave a huge middle finger to Hamas the moment they all agreed to Trump's deal. At that moment, Hamas became isolated. Even the European clowns in UK and France supported the deal. If Hamas had rejected it, the isolation it wanted for Israel would have also befallen it. With Qatar, UAE, Turkey, Saudi Arabia etc already in support, Hamas knew it was over for them.

tctrills:
Wow so you believe every Palestinian is a terrorist. Interesting intake. No one says you should kill all Palestinians the deal will end Hamas rule in Gaza. But then if all Palestinians are Hamas as you want us to believe, then all of them should be wiped out. Killing terrorist is not genocide.

tctrills:
Wow so you believe every Palestinian is a terrorist. Interesting intake. No one says you should kill all Palestinians the deal will end Hamas rule in Gaza. But then if all Palestinians are Hamas as you want us to believe, then all of them should be wiped out. Killing terrorist is not genocide.

DeepSight:
It is not possible to destroy Hamas. Every last Palestinian will have to be killed including all those in diaspora, and all children and descendants every where in the world. The reason for this is not that every Palestinian belongs to Hamas. The reason is that it is impossible to tell every one who belongs to it.

Kukutente23:
So on point
Every terrorist and their sympathisers have no choice but to agree with this apt analysis

DeepSight:
Here is what i said -

tctrills:
Sounds the same to me. So when you guys accused the IDF of genocide, you truly did not know if they were killing only Hamas members or not. So why were you accusing Israel all this time.

DeepSight:
Indiscriminate and reckless murder of even babies is criminal.

DeepSight:
You also think DJT is the greatest president ever?

tctrills:
How do you know it's indiscriminate since you can't tell who is Hamas or who is not. It's only indiscriminate if you can tell or prove that majority of those killed were not members of Hamas.

Kukutente23:
No
But he's certainly the greatest so far in this millennium

DeepSight:
Carpet bombing and other such tactics make it clear that they were out to kill innocents regardless. They also have even their own estimates of Hamas fighters and evidently non Hamas casualties were far more. Again, babies can hardly be Hamas.