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press9jatv:
Haaa I hope she reads your response here. She worship in Christ Embassy church. What of If she's been moved by the holy spirit

She's a content creator so money is the motivating factor not holy spirit!🙂

The holy spirit empower disciples to do what Jesus taught them {Act 1:8} and reminds them how to go about it {John 14:25-26} so that there will be peace among them! John 14:27

After humans became sinners humility is rare among us so it's difficult for us to stick to arrangements made for orderliness to reign among us as we must become submissive to our fellow man whom God is using to direct His work among us that's where holy spirit comes in because humility is vital to our salvation! Matthew 5:5 compare to Zephaniah 2:2-3

So when Jesus said holy spirit will help us he is talking about all the qualities that is needed among true believers to work as a global team which are:
LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

If you look critically at an imperfect man there is no way he could exhibit all these qualities but when imperfect humans form an organization and God's holy spirit is working in their midst you will see all these qualities in the way they are doing things because it's not them that's doing it but God's holy spirit among them. So when people see any of them misbehave they will call them "HYPOCRITES" because they can't figure out how these people worked perfectly as a team but fails as individuals to do what they were doing when they worked together! Romans 7:15-25🙂

MaxInDHouse:
She's a content creator so money is the motivating factor not holy spirit!🙂

The holy spirit empower disciples to do what Jesus taught them {Act 1:8} and reminds them how to go about it {John 14:25-26} so that there will be peace among them! John 14:27

After humans became sinners humility is rare among us so it's difficult for us to stick to arrangements made for orderliness to reign among us as we must become submissive to our fellow man whom God is using to direct His work among us that's where holy spirit comes in because humility is vital to our salvation! Matthew 5:5 compare to Zephaniah 2:2-3

So when Jesus said holy spirit will help us he is talking about all the qualities that is needed among true believers to work as a global team which are:
LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

If you look critically at an imperfect man there is no way he could exhibit all these qualities but when imperfect humans form an organization and God's holy spirit is working in their midst you will see all these qualities in the way they are doing things because it's not them that's doing it but God's holy spirit among them. So when people see any of them misbehave they will call them "HYPOCRITES" because they can't figure out how these people worked perfectly as a team but fails as individuals to do what they were doing when they worked together! Romans 7:15-25🙂

chaii money is the money is the motivator why she's doing that. But some people are doing that without videoing themselves. Some don't even love to videoing themselves. What of that one too? Is it money niiii? We are in the digital world.

press9jatv:
chaii money is the money is the motivator why she's doing that. But some people are doing that without videoing themselves. Some don't even love to videoing themselves. What of that one too? Is it money niiii? We are in the digital world.

Obviously you didn't read my response you only picked the first sentence so i'll oblige once again.

What Jesus commissioned as work for his disciples is not normal in the world {Matthew 10:16} so it's never going to yield positive result (FRUIT) if we fail to follow his footstep closely. 1Peter 2:21
The preaching work must be as a group and those going must go in pairs {Luke 10:1} so that they speak to interested audience at a time who will surely have one or two questions for them to answer. That's what leads to TEACHING! Matthew 28:20
So whoever is not following this pattern can't produce the FRUIT expected of the faith in Christ Jesus! Matthew 7:16-18
There are billions of people claiming they are Christians in the world today but how many are going to visit their neighbors as Jesus commanded? Matthew 10:11-13
Now imagine if all those politicians who are claiming Christians have to move from house to house and door to door in their neighborhood not with security operatives but just a partner as Christ Jesus commissioned the work do you think any politician today will claim he or she is a disciple of Christ Jesus?
Of course they won't dare claim being Christians because they have to trash all their prominence to follow Jesus! Luke 18:18-23

MaxInDHouse:
Obviously you didn't read my response you only picked the first sentence so i'll oblige once again.

What Jesus commissioned as work for his disciples is not normal in the world {Matthew 10:16} so it's never going to yield positive result (FRUIT) if we fail to follow his footstep closely. 1Peter 2:21
The preaching work must be as a group and those going must go in pairs {Luke 10:1} so that they speak to interested audience at a time who will surely have one or two questions for them to answer. That's what leads to TEACHING! Matthew 28:20
So whoever is not following this pattern can't produce the FRUIT expected of the faith in Christ Jesus! Matthew 7:16-18
There are billions of people claiming they are Christians in the world today but how many are going to visit their neighbors as Jesus commanded? Matthew 10:11-13
Now imagine if all those politicians who are claiming Christians have to move from house to house and door to door in their neighborhood not with security operatives but just a partner as Christ Jesus commissioned the work do you think any politician today will claim he or she is a disciple of Christ Jesus?
Of course they won't dare claim being Christians because they have to trash all their prominence to follow Jesus! Luke 18:18-23

Nigeria politicians you mentioned here do door to door campaign now. Everyone knows that. The lady in question did evangelism in the bus, her crime is she video herself in the bus. Do you know series of evangelists that evangelised in the bus in Nigeria per day niiiii. Maybe because you don't see their videos on the media space. Everything is about the sacrifice here. The lady in question video herself cos' of the tech age in this era.

press9jatv:
Nigeria politicians you mentioned here do door to door campaign now. Everyone knows that. The lady in question did evangelism in the bus, her crime is she video herself in the bus. Do you know series of evangelists that evangelised in the bus in Nigeria per day niiiii. Maybe because you don't see their videos on the media space. Everything is about the sacrifice here. The lady in question video herself cos' of the tech age in this era.

Do you know what it means to believe in Jesus?
Well it's not just by saying whatsoever people say in his name but the doing of God's will {Matthew 7:21-23} God's will for all humans is to accept whatever Jesus laid down as the only way {John 14:6} to please God {John 3:16} so it's not doing things anyhow you want and claiming it's for Jesus that's why God said about Jesus:

"Listen to him" Matthew 17:5

So when talking about how to do God's work we may disagree to agree but once Jesus' name is mentioned we must all obey no idea comes as option again! Philippians 2:10
People in the world may choose to do things differently but i'm telling you exactly what Jesus established as the preaching work so if you accept him as your master lord and king i don't think you should be arguing in favor of what the world is doing now is the time to correct yourself with what you have seen as authority from Jesus.

The Bible is inspired of God and beneficial for getting things done in right way! 2Timothy 3:16

ogascomax:
You believe that the scrolls are real. Jesus birth was prophesied by different prophets which books were written long ago before it happened. How he would died and his resurrection. How can they be such an accuracy of events from the old testament to the new testament. The destructions of the temple and the rebuilding of the third temple. Then some wars and specific destructions that happened. I don't want to even dive into the manifestation that are so clear before us. The different miracles that we have seen and keep seeing happening before us. Our various experiences not story telling. Such things is only possible through the power of God in the name of Jesus.
The new testament manuscript still exist today from which scripture was written. What you see there are not just stories but the wonders of God. Isaiah, Jeremiah, Moses, David, etc prophesied about our Lord Jesus so it was not just story. The supernatural is so real that God supervised and Jesus is the son of God made flesh, the one who created all things. Christianity is by faith, you don't reason God because you don't reason wonders. When they are incurable diseases and you prayed for them and they are healed you can't reason that from your head. You can't reason our experiences from your brain. It's not a brain thing that is why the spirit of God filled us with the Holy Spirit to enable us believe because you cannot believe without the Holy Spirit.
Jesus is not a story Jesus is so real. Isaiah prophesied that a virgin shall give birth and prophesied about the name he would be called.
Believe in Jesus and allow him to work in your life whether you will not have a glorious witness within your heart. Have you watched videos about Muslims convert, their encounters with Jesus Christ. Jesus is calling you he is so real and miracles are so real that are done in the name of Jesus. Go on YouTube and watch healing streams by Pastor Chris. Tell me how can you take that healing. Pastor Chris has healed millions of sick people in all the years of his ministry. Tell me how can he take that. If it's arranged miracle that is going on for decades tell me how come such miracles continue in large scales all around the world from continent to continent and from countries to countries.
How is it possible to do all that?
It's only possible by the Holy Spirit of God.

Who prophesied Jesus' birth and death? point me to the bible verses and I'll tell you how the Jewish interprets them. I'm still waiting for the "scientific evidences" you claimed supported these fables by the way. Prophecies are fascinating, but the texts we have were compiled long after many of those events happened. That’s like writing a diary after a holiday and calling it a travel forecast. Most biblical books went through centuries of copying, translation, and editing, plenty of room for alignment after the fact. It doesn’t make them meaningless, but it does make them human. History isn’t less beautiful just because it’s written by people instead of dictated by the heavens. GOD DOES NOT HAVE OR ENFORCE ANY RELIGION!

As "Jesus" was the son of God made of flesh, so am I. I am that I am.

I don't know about the miracles you talk about, the fables in the bible or the ones performed by snake oil pastors in Nigeria? There are thousands, if not millions of people living with diseases like HIV and chronic Hepatitis in Nigeria - has "Pastor" Chris healed them? if not, why not?

Muslims convert to Christianity, so do Christians covert to Islam and other religions.

I reason logically, I don't rely on miracles unlike you. If faith cancels reasoning, then every religion could claim the same thing. Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists all report miracles too… must they all be right? "You can’t reason God" sounds like a convenient shield against critical thinking. If something’s true, shouldn’t it stand up to reason and faith?

I don't mean any disrespect but I've met a lot of people like you and when challenged, they respond just like you - Very typical evangelical response. Heartfelt, passionate, but built mostly on personal conviction and circular reasoning, not historical or evidential grounding.

The kind of faith that fears questions isn't faith, its conditioning. I use to be a Christian too, never again.

arantess:
Arresting her is part of the calling.

So did they the prophets before her.

Others were beheaded for the gospel, ordinary arrest is a small thing.

They why are you complaining when extremists are fulfilling their own calling too?. .

MaxInDHouse:
Because misinformed churchgoers have spread lies everywhere you feel there is nobody called JESUS shey?
Well Jesus is real. Do you know anyone in the history of mankind who promised to fill the planet with his disciples? Act 1:8

Well Jesus has done that but Satan is the one having greater number of deceived people who are claiming Christians today. Matthew 7:13-23

We true Christians don't meddle in politics we believe only in God's Kingdom.
We don't participate in wars because we love our neighbors.
We don't protest against human governments because we know they are having their time as God permitted them.
We've used God's word to settle all our disparities peacefully among ourselves so whoever feels like avenging himself can't stay in our midst.
We have dedicated our lives to the doing of God's will namely to take the message of His kingdom to everyone in our neighborhood.
Today when people talk about real love in the midst of religionists only one religion has it: the true Christians! John 13:34-35

So if you're still nurturing the idea that Jesus never existed try to figure out how all these could be possible in a world that is filled with hatred!🙂

The same Jesus, you ppl claim is an angel and not the Son of God?
Confused ppl

descarado:
Yet you are posting this at the comfort of your room.

You can start by preaching close to the nearest mosque around you

We preach anywhere in Nigeria.

I know you must be one of those extremists.

Repent

blueAgent:
The same Jesus, you ppl claim is an angel and not the Son of God?
Confused ppl

See another misinformed churchgoer!😂

Of course he is an angel and all angels are sons of God! Job 38:7
Do you know why we're the most active organization when it comes to all those claiming followers of Christ? Act 1:8

Well the truth is we know the person that is leading us to victory inside out! Daniel 12:1; Psalms 110:1-3

Myer:
Please pray for me brother in Jesus Christ, the spiritual attack is beyond me. I am almost giving up.

It is well with you bro. You're already in my prayers however i will have to step it up as a result. Please if you don't mind though I will like to have more details. You can send me a pm.

MaxInDHouse:
See another misinformed churchgoer!😂

Of course he is an angel and all angels are sons of God! Job 38:7
Do you know why we're the most active organization when it comes to all those claiming followers of Christ? Act 1:8

Well the truth is we know the person that is leading us to victory inside out! Daniel 12:1; Psalms 110:1-3

Fake church.

blueAgent:
Fake church.

Someone who is nude but want rate the dressing of another who is fully clothed!😂

What is the name of your own church?

No response!😂

CaseSensitive:
When this one is arrested now for constituting public nuisance especially if her COS is on shaky grounds, they will say na village people. The British brought you Christianity not because they want to "save your soul" but to steal from you. Now you're bringing the same recycled mind-numbing religion back to them to "save soul". You will learn.

Honestly they are an embarrassment.

Nigerians are just LOST.

MaxInDHouse:
Someone who is nude but want rate the dressing of another who is fully clothed!😂

What is the name of your own church?

No response!😂

Abeg interpret this Bible verse for me.
Hebrews 1:5
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

CaseSensitive:
When this one is arrested now for constituting public nuisance especially if her COS is on shaky grounds, they will say na village people. The British brought you Christianity not because they want to "save your soul" but to steal from you. Now you're bringing the same recycled mind-numbing religion back to them to "save soul". You will learn.

If you say British brought Bible to Africa that's correct but Christianity, i'm sorry the British don't know anything about Jesus or what he commissioned!🙂

blueAgent:
Abeg interpret this Bible verse for me.
Hebrews 1:5
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

If you want to learn come out openly not stylishly asking for what you don't know.

When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? Job 38:7

Who are the morning stars or God's Sons this verse is talking about?

I, Jesus, sent my angel to bear witness to you about these things for the congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David and the bright morning star.’” Revelations 22:16

Do you think Jesus is the one talking here?
If so who are the morning stars or God's Sons shouting in applause at Job 38:7?

I won't teach you because you don't deserve it! Matthew 7:6

MaxInDHouse:
If you want to learn come out openly not stylishly asking for what you don't know.

When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? Job 38:7

Who are the morning stars or God's Sons this verse is talking about?

I, Jesus, sent my angel to bear witness to you about these things for the congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David and the bright morning star.’” Revelations 22:16

Do you think Jesus is the one talking here?
If so who are the morning stars or God's Sons shouting in applause at Job 38:7?

I won't teach you because you don't deserve it! Matthew 7:6

As usual, you guys are masters at cherry picking bible verses to support your lies while ignoring other verses.

Psalm 2:7
“I will declare the decree:
The LORD has said to Me,
‘You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.

Where the other Angels begotten?

blueAgent:
As usual, you guys are masters at cherry picking bible verses to support your lies while ignoring other verses.

Psalm 2:7
“I will declare the decree:
The LORD has said to Me,
‘You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.

Where the other Angels begotten?

You too can mango pick verses after all i quoted the Bible for you so answer the question:

Who are other MORNING STARS since they are all SONS OF GOD?🙂

MaxInDHouse:
If you say British brought Bible to Africa that's correct but Christianity, i'm sorry the British don't anything about Jesus or what he commissioned!🙂

I didn't say the British invented Christianity or brought it to Africa first, but they sure franchised it well for the Nigeria market. Did your fore fathers practice Christianity before the British arrived? Most probably not.

CaseSensitive:
I didn't say the British invented Christianity or brought it to Africa first, but they sure franchised it well for the Nigeria market. Did your fore fathers practice Christianity before the British arrived? Most probably not.

My own ancestors are traditionalists and few became Muslims but one thing is sure which is British brought politics not Christianity. If you read what Mohandas Gandhi said about the British you will understand he told them:

"You people are unlike your Christ"

Which means they are not Christians but they are just disguising. 2Timothy 3:5

arantess:
We preach anywhere in Nigeria.

I know you must be one of those extremists.

Repent

How will I know that. Abi i dey stay with you?

MaxInDHouse:
My own ancestors are traditionalists and few became Muslims but one thing is sure which is British brought politics not Christianity. If you read what Mohandas Gandhi said about the British you will understand he told them:

"You people are unlike your Christ"

Which means they are not Christians but they are just disguising. 2Timothy 3:5

Absolutely, but the core tenets of the two main Abrahamic religions (Christianity and Islam) were fundamentally intertwined with politics from the outset, often weaving religious authority with political power. Both religions are now tools in the hand of politicians (Nigeria is a case study). And yes, Ghandi is right in his expression. Many Nigerians today was born into Christianity (like myself), it wasn't a religion I chose. From when I was a little boy, I just knew I went to Church, read the bible, pray to Jesus etc until I actually opened my eyes and my mind and realised I actually don't need Jesus to mediate with God on my behalf because I am a precious piece of that God.

No matter who brought Christianity to Nigeria, it still doesn't change the fact that Christianity is a foreign religion and it erodes who we are at our source. I would assume that's one of the main reason it was brought in the first place (mental colonisation) I have no issues with people who practice it with common sense without losing sense of self, I have no issue with people who practice any other religion - in fact, I draw lessons from Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Ifa etc. I believe in truth, self-discipline, ethical living. I live in a way that is consistent with moral and spiritual truths rather than dogmatic rituals. That way, my mind is open, I can see life in different perspective and interact with it accordingly. I get to be who I am as an African, a yoruba man who is one with nature and deeply respect the balance of it, rather than been defined by a foreign religion or confined to one.

CaseSensitive:
Absolutely, but the core tenets of the two main Abrahamic religions (Christianity and Islam) were fundamentally intertwined with politics from the outset, often weaving religious authority with political power. Both religions are now tools in the hand of politicians (Nigeria is a case study). And yes, Ghandi is right in his expression. Many Nigerians today was born into Christianity (like myself), it wasn't a religion I chose. From when I was a little boy, I just knew I went to Church, read the bible, pray to Jesus etc until I actually opened my eyes and my mind and realised I actually don't need Jesus to mediate with God on my behalf because I am a precious piece of that God.

No matter who brought Christianity to Nigeria, it still doesn't change the fact that Christianity is a foreign religion and it erodes who we are at our source. I would assume that's one of the main reason it was brought in the first place (mental colonisation) I have no issues with people who practice it with common sense without losing sense of self, I have no issue with people who practice any other religion - in fact, I draw lessons from Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Ifa etc. I believe in truth, self-discipline, ethical living. I live in a way that is consistent with moral and spiritual truths rather than dogmatic rituals. That way, my mind is open, I can see life in different perspective and interact with it accordingly. I get to be who I am as an African, a yoruba man who is one with nature and deeply respect the balance of it, rather than been defined by a foreign religion or confined to one.

The highlighted is a misconception!

True Christianity has nothing to do with politics in fact if you know real Christians you will be really shocked!

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is a misconception!

True Christianity has nothing to do with politics in fact if you know real Christians you will be really shocked!

Sure, if by ‘true Christians’ you mean the ideal in theory. But historically, Christianity has always been linked with political power, from Constantine’s empire, the Crusades to European colonisation of Africa. Claiming ‘true Christianity’ magically removes politics is like saying a car drives itself better when nobody touches the wheel. Faith exists in practice, not just in theory. You can't separate the two bro but of course I'm always willing to learn, I want to be "shocked!"

CaseSensitive:
Sure, if by ‘true Christians’ you mean the ideal in theory. But historically, Christianity has always been linked with political power, from Constantine’s empire, the Crusades to European colonisation of Africa. Claiming ‘true Christianity’ magically removes politics is like saying a car drives itself better when nobody touches the wheel. Faith exists in practice, not just in theory. You can't separate the two bro but of course I'm always willing to learn, I want to be "shocked!"

You surprised me than i expected in fact i myself i'm shocked already to see how much you know about theory and practical.
Surely you are more prepared for this than i expected anyone to be but still let's get to the root of the matter!🙂

After Jesus commissioned Christianity he told his disciples a parable regarding what will happen when he's gone. Matthew 13:24-30
In that parable he made it clear that true Christianity will be suspended for some time just as weeds when left unattended to will overshadow the fine seeds so that when an observer looks from a distance all he could see is WEEDS.
In view of this prophecy Jesus asked a serious question:

"when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?” ‭Luke 18:8 NIV‬
This means after Jesus and his disciples are gone true Christianity will vanish on planet earth! Revelations 11:7-10

But then is that be the end of the group?

Jesus said true Christianity will bounce back like two prophets who resurrected from the dead but when they regain life nobody can kill them again! Revelations 11:11-12

So you are 100% correct that theory and practice differ but today true Christianity is back on its feet but with a totally different group name! Isaiah 65:15

Today just as the world hated Jesus and his disciples in the first century they are hostile to the true Christians and calling them different names even though they can't say exactly what Jesus' disciples did wrong other than their unique faith.

Just as Jesus prayed for his disciples to have the same line of thought {John 17:22} true Christians have the same line of thought to the extent that people can easily say this person is one of them once he doesn't join in pagan traditions! 1Corinthans 1:10

They have love among themselves and the world can testify to it! John 13:34-35

They don't participate in politics {John 17:14} or military service {Matthew 26:52} so there is no way any politician can poison their mind against anyone!

They don't follow worldly trends, they eat, drink, party and socielite with others but when it comes to matters of faith they will say "bye for now". John 17:15-17

So yes there is a global group practicing what Jesus taught exactly but the world called them a cult just as Jesus foretold! Matthew 10:24-25

MaxInDHouse:
You surprised me than i expected in fact i myself i'm shocked already to see how much you know about theory and practical.
Surely you are more prepared for this than i expected anyone to be but still let's get to the root of the matter!🙂

After Jesus commissioned Christianity he told his disciples a parable regarding what will happen when he's gone. Matthew 13:24-30
In that parable he made it clear that true Christianity will be suspended for some time just as weeds when left unattended to will overshadow the fine seeds so that when an observer looks from a distance all he could see is WEEDS.
In view of this prophecy Jesus asked a serious question:

"when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?” ‭Luke 18:8 NIV‬
This means after Jesus and his disciples are gone true Christianity will vanish on planet earth! Revelations 11:7-10

But then is that be the end of the group?

Jesus said true Christianity will bounce back like two prophets who resurrected from the dead but when they regain life nobody can kill them again! Revelations 11:11-12

So you are 100% correct that theory and practice differ but today true Christianity is back on its feet but with a totally different group name! Isaiah 65:15

Today just as the world hated Jesus and his disciples in the first century they are hostile to the true Christians and calling them different names even though they can't say exactly what Jesus' disciples did wrong other than their unique faith.

Just as Jesus prayed for his disciples to have the same line of thought {John 17:22} true Christians have the same line of thought to the extent that people can easily say this person is one of them once he doesn't join in pagan traditions! 1Corinthans 1:10

They have love among themselves and the world can testify to it! John 13:34-35

They don't participate in politics {John 17:14} or military service {Matthew 26:52} so there is no way any politician can poison their mind against anyone!

They don't follow worldly trends, they eat, drink, party and socielite with others but when it comes to matters of faith they will say "bye for now". John 17:15-17

So yes there is a global group practicing what Jesus taught exactly but the world called them a cult just as Jesus foretold! Matthew 10:24-25

I see your point but historically, Christianity has always coexisted with politics, power, and human imperfection, whether early believers were oppressed or bishops wielded authority. Claiming a single global group today perfectly embodies Jesus’ teachings might make for a neat story, but history and human nature suggest it’s more complicated than any one sect can capture. Even the first disciples disagreed on interpretation and practice. Historically, faith and politics have often mixed (even when Christians were persecuted), and different contexts produced very different practices. That’s part of the reasons why there are different Christian denominations and churches.

Even early believers disagreed on theology, rituals, and interpretation of Jesus’ teachings. Different regions, languages, and cultures shaped how Christians practiced their faith, take for example, Greek speaking communities interpreted scripture differently from Latin speaking ones. Then over centuries, debates about issues like the nature of Christ (Arianism vs. Nicene Creed), baptism, or Eucharist led to further splits. Then there’s political and cultural pressures such as when Roman emperors, European monarchs, or colonial administrations also influenced which forms of Christianity dominated in particular areas. When Europeans brought Christianity to Africa, they also introduced denominations linked to their home countries: Anglican, Catholic, Methodist, Presbyterian, etc.

Later, independent African churches emerged, mixing Christianity with local beliefs and practices (insert your Celestial Church of Christ, Cherubim & Seraphim etc), further increasing diversity. Today in Nigeria, there’s a “Mountain of Jesus Miracles” and “Fire of Heaven Ministries” in every corner or half of mile radius to another. I’m not making this things up, they are facts and our current realities. So weeds and seeds have always been mixed, and that’s not the kind of religion I want to be associated with and I give no special merit or consideration to the “global sect practicing what Jesus taught”, that’s their conviction and perogative.

But I’ll still stand on the point that Christianity in Nigeria is fundamentally a foreign religion. Many of us were born into it; we didn’t choose it. Africa seems to be the only continent where borrowed religions dominate entire societies. Contrast that with China despite political divisions, their culture has remained largely intact because they weren’t colonized by foreign religions and that has held them together. We see result of that today. Part of the challenge we face is this very history of imported belief shaping identities and society.

Now this is not even about me and Christianity, I’m now talking societal cohesion, that’s what I care about more. Because religion has caused division more than unity in human history. I mean you probably have witnessed the archetypes of societal degeneration here on this forum, where keyboard warriors launch attack on each other over religion, religions that weren’t fundamentally theirs in the first place. You see "Christians" on here supporting genocide orchestrated by Israel in Gaza, because they are "Christians" and they believe the Palestinians deserve death because they are "Muslims" and by extension are "terrorists". Where is the humanity? You hear almost daily stories of “church pastors” do the unthinkable and “GOs” on one hand preach armageddon on humanity while on the other hand preach prosperity while church pastor’s wallet gets fatter. To me, these illustrate the human complications of faith intertwined with society. "My sect practice christianity differently" just doesn't cut it for me. Of course without any disrespect to you or your faith.

Are you saying what Jesus taught was never practiced by his first century disciples?
According to the Bible Jesus' teachings is the ultimate and that's what Mohandas Gandhi said but those claiming Christians today aren't practicing what Jesus of Nazareth taught.
Mohandas Gandhi lived before the time Christianity was restored.
Here are testimonies from sincere and honest hearted observers:

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

BafanaBafana:
Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money.
Shikena!

Oye0404:
well said, once had a witness DAT comes around for years, truth is,dis guys are so caring and accommodating. lots if misconceptions about dem..

XXLDICK:
They remain the most peaceful Christian denomination.
They do not pay tithes. They are the only Christian denomination yet to be commercialized. They are my favourite.
Cons:
They do not recite the national anthem.
They do not participate in elections.
They do not accept blood transfusion.

freethinker01:
Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.

boss1310:
The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

The truth is God promised a time when faithful people throughout the world will form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3} so when that has been achieved all other religions claiming Christians but failed to meet up with this GOAL (FRUIT) are not Christians. That is what Jesus of Nazareth said! Matthew 7:16-18

CaseSensitive:
I see your point but historically, Christianity has always coexisted with politics, power, and human imperfection, whether early believers were oppressed or bishops wielded authority. Claiming a single global group today perfectly embodies Jesus’ teachings might make for a neat story, but history and human nature suggest it’s more complicated than any one sect can capture. Even the first disciples disagreed on interpretation and practice. Historically, faith and politics have often mixed (even when Christians were persecuted), and different contexts produced very different practices. That’s part of the reasons why there are different Christian denominations and churches.

Even early believers disagreed on theology, rituals, and interpretation of Jesus’ teachings. Different regions, languages, and cultures shaped how Christians practiced their faith, take for example, Greek speaking communities interpreted scripture differently from Latin speaking ones. Then over centuries, debates about issues like the nature of Christ (Arianism vs. Nicene Creed), baptism, or Eucharist led to further splits. Then there’s political and cultural pressures such as when Roman emperors, European monarchs, or colonial administrations also influenced which forms of Christianity dominated in particular areas. When Europeans brought Christianity to Africa, they also introduced denominations linked to their home countries: Anglican, Catholic, Methodist, Presbyterian, etc.

Later, independent African churches emerged, mixing Christianity with local beliefs and practices (insert your Celestial Church of Christ, Cherubim & Seraphim etc), further increasing diversity. Today in Nigeria, there’s a “Mountain of Jesus Miracles” and “Fire of Heaven Ministries” in every corner or half of mile radius to another. I’m not making this things up, they are facts and our current realities. So weeds and seeds have always been mixed, and that’s not the kind of religion I want to be associated with and I give no special merit or consideration to the “global sect practicing what Jesus taught”, that’s their conviction and perogative.

But I’ll still stand on the point that Christianity in Nigeria is fundamentally a foreign religion. Many of us were born into it; we didn’t choose it. Africa seems to be the only continent where borrowed religions dominate entire societies. Contrast that with China despite political divisions, their culture has remained largely intact because they weren’t colonized by foreign religions and that has held them together. We see result of that today. Part of the challenge we face is this very history of imported belief shaping identities and society.

Now this is not even about me and Christianity, I’m now talking societal cohesion, that’s what I care about more. Because religion has caused division more than unity in human history. I mean you probably have witnessed the archetypes of societal degeneration here on this forum, where keyboard warriors launch attack on each other over religion, religions that weren’t fundamentally theirs in the first place. You see "Christians" on here supporting genocide orchestrated by Israel in Gaza, because they are "Christians" and they believe the Palestinians deserve death because they are "Muslims" and by extension are "terrorists". Where is the humanity? You hear almost daily stories of “church pastors” do the unthinkable and “GOs” on one hand preach armageddon on humanity while on the other hand preach prosperity while church pastor’s wallet gets fatter. To me, these illustrate the human complications of faith intertwined with society. "My sect practice christianity differently" just doesn't cut it for me. Of course without any disrespect to you or your faith.

CaseSensitive:
I see your point but historically, Christianity has always coexisted with politics, power, and human imperfection, whether early believers were oppressed or bishops wielded authority. Claiming a single global group today perfectly embodies Jesus’ teachings might make for a neat story, but history and human nature suggest it’s more complicated than any one sect can capture. Even the first disciples disagreed on interpretation and practice. Historically, faith and politics have often mixed (even when Christians were persecuted), and different contexts produced very different practices. That’s part of the reasons why there are different Christian denominations and churches.

Even early believers disagreed on theology, rituals, and interpretation of Jesus’ teachings. Different regions, languages, and cultures shaped how Christians practiced their faith, take for example, Greek speaking communities interpreted scripture differently from Latin speaking ones. Then over centuries, debates about issues like the nature of Christ (Arianism vs. Nicene Creed), baptism, or Eucharist led to further splits. Then there’s political and cultural pressures such as when Roman emperors, European monarchs, or colonial administrations also influenced which forms of Christianity dominated in particular areas. When Europeans brought Christianity to Africa, they also introduced denominations linked to their home countries: Anglican, Catholic, Methodist, Presbyterian, etc.

Later, independent African churches emerged, mixing Christianity with local beliefs and practices (insert your Celestial Church of Christ, Cherubim & Seraphim etc), further increasing diversity. Today in Nigeria, there’s a “Mountain of Jesus Miracles” and “Fire of Heaven Ministries” in every corner or half of mile radius to another. I’m not making this things up, they are facts and our current realities. So weeds and seeds have always been mixed, and that’s not the kind of religion I want to be associated with and I give no special merit or consideration to the “global sect practicing what Jesus taught”, that’s their conviction and perogative.

But I’ll still stand on the point that Christianity in Nigeria is fundamentally a foreign religion. Many of us were born into it; we didn’t choose it. Africa seems to be the only continent where borrowed religions dominate entire societies. Contrast that with China despite political divisions, their culture has remained largely intact because they weren’t colonized by foreign religions and that has held them together. We see result of that today. Part of the challenge we face is this very history of imported belief shaping identities and society.

Now this is not even about me and Christianity, I’m now talking societal cohesion, that’s what I care about more. Because religion has caused division more than unity in human history. I mean you probably have witnessed the archetypes of societal degeneration here on this forum, where keyboard warriors launch attack on each other over religion, religions that weren’t fundamentally theirs in the first place. You see "Christians" on here supporting genocide orchestrated by Israel in Gaza, because they are "Christians" and they believe the Palestinians deserve death because they are "Muslims" and by extension are "terrorists". Where is the humanity? You hear almost daily stories of “church pastors” do the unthinkable and “GOs” on one hand preach armageddon on humanity while on the other hand preach prosperity while church pastor’s wallet gets fatter. To me, these illustrate the human complications of faith intertwined with society. "My sect practice christianity differently" just doesn't cut it for me. Of course without any disrespect to you or your faith.

You don't get my point!

I wasn't born a Christian but they found me. Have you heard of Jehovah's Witnesses?
Well that is the one and only Christian group that meets up with all the things Jesus taught not individually because he wasn't talking about each individual meeting up with what is perfect but as a group.
So any other group claiming Christians are fake if we have to go by what Jesus of Nazareth said:

"By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they?  Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:16-18

God's purpose was to gather all faithful people throughout the earth and form a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3} once that has been achieved what sincere and honest hearted individuals need to do is join the organization that's meeting up with this goal. Of course JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES stands out differently and the whole world knows this!