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Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by ProfessorPeter(m): 8:13am On Jun 25, 2015
Traditional wedding or church wedding also known as white wedding Which one is them is scriptural?
I was teaching some weeks back on marriage, i told my audience that marriage is valid as soon dowry is paid. The scriptures recognizes traditional marriage. I told them that a man is free to sleep with hi wife as soon as dowry is paid.
I told them that white wedding is not scriptural and it is not biblical doctrine but church doctrine. It is high time we stop keeping people in bondage through a church doctrine

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Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by ekim004(m): 8:23am On Jun 25, 2015
white wedding z nt africa we borrowed it. Meaning say u do white wedding no mean say jah no bless am

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Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by Nellizzy(m): 8:28am On Jun 25, 2015
what the bible says is about paying of bride price
in any which way u did it doesnt matta
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by vivypretty(f): 8:40am On Jun 25, 2015
until u receive the blessings of an ordained man of God,God does not recognize ur marriage.
traditional marriage is to fulfill the culture of ur people.tradition has joined them together but God is yet to.

Give to ceasar what belongs to ceasar .......
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by ProfessorPeter(m): 8:57am On Jun 25, 2015
Does it mean that if i sleep with wife after paying dowry is sin? Is it until a pastor pray for my marriage before i sleep wit my wife?
vivypretty:
until u receive the blessings of an ordained man of God,God does not recognize ur marriage.
traditional marriage is to fulfill the culture of ur people.tradition has joined them together but God is yet to.

Give to ceasar what belongs to ceasar .......
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by jcross19: 11:28am On Jun 25, 2015
vivypretty:
until u receive the blessings of an ordained man of God,God does not recognize ur marriage.
traditional marriage is to fulfill the culture of ur people.tradition has joined them together but God is yet to.

Give to ceasar what belongs to ceasar .......
sister that's a big lie okay. The marriage we are talking about is an agreement between two parties with a witness of parents as long as the bride price has been paid any how or any means. Church wedding is pure english custom and bible says : a man shall leave his father house join his wife ............. In the completion of the verse you will see that no where jesus said they bring them to the temple or synagogue, marriage jesus attended in galilee was not in church or temple and there is no way where they mentioned that jesus blessed the marriage. Note it is good to bless the union but is not a custom.

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Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by vivypretty(f): 12:50pm On Jun 25, 2015
jcross19:
sister that's a big lie okay. The marriage we are talking about is an agreement between two parties with a witness of parents as long as the bride price has been paid any how or any means. Church wedding is pure english custom and bible says : a man shall leave his father house join his wife ............. In the completion of the verse you will see that no where jesus said they bring them to th. e temple or synagogue, marriage jesus attended in galilee was not in church .......or temple and there is no way where they mentioned that jesus blessed the marriage. Note it is good to bless the union but is not a custom.
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if marriage is all about traditional why then was it likened to God's love for the church(ephesians 5:23 down)
in (revelation 19:cool it was talking about. the bride being clothed in white
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by vivypretty(f): 12:54pm On Jun 25, 2015
ProfessorPeter:
Does it mean that if i sleep with wife after paying dowry is sin? Is it until a pastor pray for my marriage before i sleep wit my wife?
traditionally is not a sin but also remember that some tradition that we practice today is a sin in the sight of God like the OSU.
in the bible is written "give to caesar what belongs to caesar and to God what belongs to God"
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by Nobody: 1:28pm On Jun 25, 2015
vivypretty:
until u receive the blessings of an ordained man of God,God does not recognize ur marriage.
traditional marriage is to fulfill the culture of ur people.tradition has joined them together but God is yet to.

Give to ceasar what belongs to ceasar .......
puo ebe a osiso (gerrout)

What do understand by giving ceasar what is ceasar? U will tell me ceasar is Satan abi? Lemme hear u 1st

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Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by vivypretty(f): 1:32pm On Jun 25, 2015
Mellin:
puo ebe a osiso (gerrout)

What do understand by giving ceasar what is ceasar? U will tell me ceasar is Satan abi? Lemme hear u 1st
bata ebe a osiso(gerrin)
And what do u understand .
NOW u can GET THE HELL OUT
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by ayoku777(m): 2:33pm On Jun 25, 2015
ProfessorPeter:
Traditional wedding or church wedding also known as white wedding Which one is them is scriptural?
I was teaching some weeks back on marriage, i told my audience that marriage is valid as soon dowry is paid. The scriptures recognizes traditional marriage. I told them that a man is free to sleep with hi wife as soon as dowry is paid.
I told them that white wedding is not scriptural and it is not biblical doctrine but church doctrine. It is high time we stop keeping people in bondage through a church doctrine

You need to read the bible very well and let it form your opinion.

Marriage is not valid after the dowry is paid. You're wrong in that regard.

When you pay a woman's dowry, she becomes bethroted (espoused) to you. But that doesn't mean she is married to you.

In the bible, there is no such thing as dating. What we have is bethrotal and marriage.

When you pay her dowry, she becomes bethroted to you, but she still remains in her father's house. It is after marriage that the two of you can now live together and consummate the union without it being sin.

Matthew 1v8 - Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as His mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Can you see? Being espoused or bethroted is different from coming together (that is living together and consummating the union).

It should be noted that marriages are consummated on the wedding night. So if Mary was still not with Joseph even after being espoused to him, then bethrotal is not marriage, and paying her dowry doesn't mean she can live with you much less consummate.

Just as a child and a temple must be dedicated to God by a priest before the child can be named and before the house can be opened. A union between a man and a woman must also be dedicated to God before witnesses (the church) no matter how small; by a servant of God.

Paying her dowry does not make your union consummatable just yet before God. Bethrotal is different from marriage. Bethroral is when you pay her dowry and she becomes espoused to you. Marriage is when you come together and the union can now be consummated without it being fornication.

This has nothing to do with traditional or white wedding, it is about how things are made valid in the eyes of God.

Shalom

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Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by vivypretty(f): 3:18pm On Jun 25, 2015
Mellin:
religion has made u lazy that u can't check before calling one an illiterate, frustrated and mannerless. U really are do dumb that u prefer all the whites are feeding u than what your own ancestors are telling u.

And why did u remove your pix?cos I saw it before I quoted u. Are u afraid? Fix it back cos nothing is gonna happen to u OK?
very funny cos I never removed my pix and I wasn't expecting you to do something that will amount to something
I called u an illiterate cos is someone like that, that will insult a person on social media just because he/she expresses a view that is different from his own.everyone is entitled to his or her opinion.
you don't know me well enough to say am lazy and I can't remember asking for an opinion on my character
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by Nobody: 4:36pm On Jun 25, 2015
vivypretty:
until u receive the blessings of an ordained man of God,God does not recognize ur marriage.
traditional marriage is to fulfill the culture of ur people.tradition has joined them together but God is yet to.

Give to ceasar what belongs to ceasar .......
Are you saying your culture does not recognise God? You need white culture to help you recognise God? That is a sick mentality. So all the marriages that took place in your hometown for thousands of years before the arrival of the white man were not "ordained by God"? Sick, sick, sick mentality.

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Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by ProfessorPeter(m): 5:03pm On Jun 25, 2015
ayoku777:


You need to read the bible very well and let it form your opinion.

Marriage is not valid after the dowry is paid. You're wrong in that regard.

When you pay a woman's dowry, she becomes bethroted (espoused) to you. But that doesn't mean she is married to you.

In the bible, there is no such thing as dating. What we have is bethrotal and marriage.

When you pay her dowry, she becomes bethroted to you, but she still remains in her father's house. It is after marriage that the two of you can now live together and consummate the union without it being sin.

Matthew 1v8 - Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as His mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Can you see? Being espoused or bethroted is different from coming together (that is living together and consummating the union).

It should be noted that marriages are consummated on the wedding night. So if Mary was still not with Joseph even after being espoused to him, then bethrotal is not marriage, and paying her dowry doesn't mean she can live with you much less consummate.

Just as a child and a temple must be dedicated to God by a priest before the child can be named and before the house can be opened. A union between a man and a woman must also be dedicated to God before witnesses (the church) no matter how small; by a servant of God.

Paying her dowry does not make your union consummatable just yet before God. Bethrotal is different from marriage. Bethroral is when you pay her dowry and she becomes espoused to you. Marriage is when you come together and the union can now be consummated without it being fornication.

This has nothing to do with traditional or white wedding, it is about how things are made valid in the eyes of God.

Shalom
which of then is important? Dowry or wedding? If a man paid dowry of a lady n take her in and live together. Do they sin?
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by Nobody: 5:09pm On Jun 25, 2015
ROSSIKE:
Are you saying your culture does not recognise God? You need white culture to help you recognise God? That is a sick mentality. So all the marriages that took place in your hometown for thousands of years before the arrival of the white man were not "ordained by God"? Sick, sick, sick mentality.
that's y I called her a slave
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by vivypretty(f): 5:10pm On Jun 25, 2015
ROSSIKE:
Are you saying your culture does not recognise God? You need white culture to help you recognise God? That is a sick mentality. So all the marriages that took place in your hometown for thousands of years before the arrival of the white man were not "ordained by God"? Sick, sick, sick mentality.
even before the white people brought christian religion there is always someone like a custodian of their religion to guide them through the marital rites
I may v a sick mentality but u v an archaic mentality
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by vivypretty(f): 5:28pm On Jun 25, 2015
Mellin:
that's y I called her a slave
And you are what ......a barbarian
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by Ishilove: 8:06pm On Jun 25, 2015
Colonial mentality. God's blessings are very important in a marriage, but that is not to say that if i get married in the customary way (traditionally) I don't have God's blessing. Invite a man of God to bless the marriage. Whoever says traditional marriage is not valid in the sight of God is leaving in ignorance
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by Nobody: 8:25pm On Jun 25, 2015
vivypretty:

traditionally is not a sin but also remember that some tradition that we practice today is a sin in the sight of God like the OSU.
in the bible is written "give to caesar what belongs to caesar and to God what belongs to God"
who is ceasar according to ur quote?

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Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by vivypretty(f): 8:50pm On Jun 25, 2015
Mellin:
who is ceasar according to ur quote?
the caesar here represents tradition
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by ayoku777(m): 9:14pm On Jun 25, 2015
Ishilove:
Colonial mentality. God's blessings are very important in a marriage, but that is not to say that if i get married in the customary way (traditionally) I don't have God's blessing. Invite a man of God to bless the marriage. Whoever says traditional marriage is not valid in the sight of God is leaving in ignorance

What's the difference between a traditional marriage and a christian marriage?
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by jnrbayano(m): 9:25pm On Jun 25, 2015
Ishilove:
Colonial mentality. God's blessings are very important in a marriage, but that is not to say that if i get married in the customary way (traditionally) I don't have God's blessing. Invite a man of God to bless the marriage. Whoever says traditional marriage is not valid in the sight of God is leaving in ignorance

If you have God's blessing after the traditional wedding, why bother to invite "man of God" for blessing?

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Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by Nobody: 9:39pm On Jun 25, 2015
vivypretty:

the caesar here represents tradition
u r no match for me. Go figure who caesar is,, school urself
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by abigdwn: 9:48pm On Jun 25, 2015
vivypretty:
until u receive the blessings of an ordained man of God,God does not recognize ur marriage.
traditional marriage is to fulfill the culture of ur people.tradition has joined them together but God is yet to.

Give to ceasar what belongs to ceasar .......
Dats not true bro!the white wedding stuff was borrowed from d white mans culture.The main thing s to pay dowry,wen dat s done,it s finished..other tins dat follow s just celebration.

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Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by Nobody: 10:25pm On Jun 25, 2015
ayoku777:


You need to read the bible very well and let it form your opinion.

Marriage is not valid after the dowry is paid. You're wrong in that regard.

When you pay a woman's dowry, she becomes bethroted (espoused) to you. But that doesn't mean she is married to you.

In the bible, there is no such thing as dating. What we have is bethrotal and marriage.

When you pay her dowry, she becomes bethroted to you, but she still remains in her father's house. It is after marriage that the two of you can now live together and consummate the union without it being sin.

Matthew 1v8 - Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as His mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Can you see? Being espoused or bethroted is different from coming together (that is living together and consummating the union).

It should be noted that marriages are consummated on the wedding night. So if Mary was still not with Joseph even after being espoused to him, then bethrotal is not marriage, and paying her dowry doesn't mean she can live with you much less consummate.

Just as a child and a temple must be dedicated to God by a priest before the child can be named and before the house can be opened. A union between a man and a woman must also be dedicated to God before witnesses (the church) no matter how small; by a servant of God.

Paying her dowry does not make your union consummatable just yet before God. Bethrotal is different from marriage. Bethroral is when you pay her dowry and she becomes espoused to you. Marriage is when you come together and the union can now be consummated without it being fornication.

This has nothing to do with traditional or white wedding, it is about how things are made valid in the eyes of God.

Shalom

Brother, I disagree with you on this one.

There is no scripture that requires a believer to dedicate their union before any congregation and by a servant of God. If you find any reference in the Bible then let me know. The union is dedicated to God by the couple themselves, you don't need any special priest and servant and same way a child can be dedicated to God by the parents without the whole fanfare. In fact, dedication is simply committing into God's hand and trusting him to complete what he has started.

Betrothal is what we popularly call engagement. It is simply an agreement to be married in future. Our fathers practised this by having families make marriage plans for their children at a young age. I don't believe any Christian would begin to have sex after engagement.

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Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by Nobody: 10:29pm On Jun 25, 2015
Ishilove:
Colonial mentality. God's blessings are very important in a marriage, but that is not to say that if i get married in the customary way (traditionally) I don't have God's blessing. Invite a man of God to bless the marriage. Whoever says traditional marriage is not valid in the sight of God is leaving in ignorance

What stops you as a believer from pronouncing God's blessings in your Union? What's the need for a Pastor to do what you ought to do? How many marriages did Paul or Peter officiate? Guys, if God leads you, you are blessed!
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by jcross19: 11:02pm On Jun 25, 2015
ayoku777:


You need to read the bible very well and let it form your opinion.

Marriage is not valid after the dowry is paid. You're wrong in that regard.

When you pay a woman's dowry, she becomes bethroted (espoused) to you. But that doesn't mean she is married to you.

In the bible, there is no such thing as dating. What we have is bethrotal and marriage.

When you pay her dowry, she becomes bethroted to you, but she still remains in her father's house. It is after marriage that the two of you can now live together and consummate the union without it being sin.

Matthew 1v8 - Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as His mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Can you see? Being espoused or bethroted is different from coming together (that is living together and consummating the union).

It should be noted that marriages are consummated on the wedding night. So if Mary was still not with Joseph even after being espoused to him, then bethrotal is not marriage, and paying her dowry doesn't mean she can live with you much less consummate.

Just as a child and a temple must be dedicated to God by a priest before the child can be named and before the house can be opened. A union between a man and a woman must also be dedicated to God before witnesses (the church) no matter how small; by a servant of God.

Paying her dowry does not make your union consummatable just yet before God. Bethrotal is different from marriage. Bethroral is when you pay her dowry and she becomes espoused to you. Marriage is when you come together and the union can now be consummated without it being fornication.

This has nothing to do with traditional or white wedding, it is about how things are made valid in the eyes of God.

Shalom
check the meaning betrothed , she became your wife when you pay her bride price and no where in the bible that says until you come to church before your become legal before God, okay what about those opt for court marriage are they committing sin? Huh check your bible very well. Mathew you quoted says mary was betrothed to joseph and still living under joseph roof. You can give child name even before they gave birth to him or her , example john the baptist and jesus their names were given by angel not priest. Go and check the first miracle performed christ in a wedding ceremony were they in church or temple?.note all we suppose to do in church is to call the new couple and pray for them . All those white gown and suite are english custom is not biblical.
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by ayoku777(m): 11:55pm On Jun 25, 2015
Processor01:


Brother, I disagree with you on this one.

There is no scripture that requires a believer to dedicate their union before any congregation and by a servant of God. If you find any reference in the Bible then let me know. The union is dedicated to God by the couple themselves, you don't need any special priest and servant and same way a child can be dedicated to God by the parents without the whole fanfare. In fact, dedication is simply committing into God's hand and trusting him to complete what he has started.

Betrothal is what we popularly call engagement. It is simply an agreement to be married in future. Our fathers practised this by having families make marriage plans for their children at a young age. I don't believe any Christian would begin to have sex after engagement.


No, betrothal is not engagement. You only become betrothed after bride price is paid. Infact after betrothal, someone can be called someone's wife, but you don't start living together yet.

2Samuel 3v14 -And David sent messengers to Ish-bosheth Saul's son, saying, Deliver me and my wife Michal, which I espoused (betrothed) to me for an hundred foreskins of the Philistines.

Can you see this verse? When Michal was betrothed to David, he paid a bride price.

When a woman is betrothed, bride price is paid. Betrothal is not engagement. It is not just a show of interest to marry someone. Betrothal involves payment of bride price. Yet that doesn't mean they are married and can consummate. Unless the wedding takes place same time.

Mary was betrothed to Joseph, meaning Joseph had paid her bride price, yet they were yet to come together. Bride price payment (betrothal) doesn't mean you're married, or can now live together and consummate.

Betrothal is not engagement, it is more than it because betrothal involves payment of bride price. But betrothal is not marriage either because you still cannot consummate just yet.

Although it is possible to pay bride price and do the marriage same day. In that case you can go home together.
Re: Traditional Wedding Or White Wedding? by ayoku777(m): 12:08am On Jun 26, 2015
jcross19:
check the meaning betrothed , she became your wife when you pay her bride price and no where in the bible that says until you come to church before your become legal before God, okay what about those opt for court marriage are they committing sin? Huh check your bible very well. Mathew you quoted says mary was betrothed to joseph and still living under joseph roof.

Where did you read that Mary was already living under Joseph's roof after they were betrothed? The bible said they were yet to come together.

Matthew 1v18 -Now the birth of Jesus was on this wise: When as His mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

These verse said they were yet to come together. They were yet to start living together, much less sleeping together. Even though Mary was already betrothed to Joseph and was already being called wife.

Look at this verse also;

Matthew 1v20 -...Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife:

See? Meaning Joseph was yet to take Mary unto himself.

So they were not yet living together or sleeping together, even after betrothal (bride price).

jcross19:
You can give child name even before they gave birth to him or her , example john the baptist and jesus their names were given by angel not priest.

The angels gave Zechariah and Mary, the names that they should give their babies. But the babies were not named or called by those names until after they were dedicated (or christened). Its at dedication that the name becomes what the baby is called.

jcross19:
Go and check the first miracle performed christ in a wedding ceremony were they in church or temple?.note all we suppose to do in church is to call the new couple and pray for them . All those white gown and suite are english custom is not biblical.

Its like you're confusing white wedding with christian wedding.

Do you know athiests too have white weddings? Even gays have white weddings too now. Does that make it a christian wedding?

For a wedding to be a christian wedding, it must involve the assembly of God's people representing the church. And it must have a priest or minister to bless the union in the name of Jesus and declare you both married before God and the saints.

Whether it is done in a church or court or under a tree doesn't matter. Whether the bride wore green or the groom wore ankara doesn't matter. Whether there is food and refreshments or not doesn't matter. None of these defines a christian marriage.

The presence of God in the assembly of God's people and a minister to bless the union in Christ name is what makes it a christian marriage.

Marriage is not man's invention. It is God's idea and He institutionalized it. It must be done in His name before the witness of God's people for it to be a christian marriage.

I'm not talking about traditional or court or white wedding. I'm talking about christian wedding.

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