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SpencerForbes:
Gave it to who?? The same Bible that stated we should judge not
Or are we Pharisees 🤔
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Don't be unfortunate. Your conscience is your sit of judgment. If you've got to a level that your conscience can't talk to you, that's too bad. Also, I don't really know what's your understanding of judgment. Well, every time you decide in your heart to take a position about an issue, that's judgment. Judgment isn't necessarily a misfortune coming to someone as a result of a wrongdoing they committed, but also your power to judge or decide on a matter.

SpencerForbes:
Who made them so?
Your Bible or the society??

Go and argue with Paul and Romans 1 who said lasciviousness and filthiness and dishonourment of your own bodies between yourselves.

"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between "themselves:

SpencerForbes:
Now let’s go to Peter and Paul. God showed Peter a sin and asked him to eat the unholy animals even when Peter didn’t want to?
Please can you tell us what happened there🤔🤔🤔

We Christians don’t live by human laws. If your spirit tells you to indulge in anal, then do it and face the consequences. My problem is don’t make it sound divine and you and your Roman Catholic were not made to make laws for us. Let every Christian live as the spirit leadeth and on the last day, we’ll all face the consequences.
Shalom
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See craze. No spirit told anyone to do anal until children of Sathan told them to chook the anus and that their eyes will open

SpencerForbes:
I don’t get it🤔🤔🤔 can you explain before I engage??

Sex started in the garden of Eden while Christianity started at Antioch by Christians so sex is older than Christianity and in the Old Testament, except from rape cases, homosexuality(indirectly) and adultery, there was nothing about sex styles or am I wrong??

Do your research, there’s nothing like anal sex in the Bible. Don’t deceive yourself😎
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anal sex is an abomination,God hates it, the anus is meant only for the passage of unwanted faeces ( shit), and not for one man or woman to open his or her anus and a man inserts his penis inside

Dtruthspeaker:
Christianity started with Christ and it is Christ Who created us, so Christianity started before sex.

And do note, since marriage is done at the permission and Blessing and Celebration of the parents, Adam male and female broke The Law by having sex before their marriage.(fornication)

Seek knowledge bro... All you typed here is nothing but rubbish

WeedAddict:
Seek knowledge bro... All you typed here is nothing but rubbish

Why did you not drop what you think is wrong if truly you had something to say?

paxonel:
Lies!

God is not concerned about how married people are enjoying their sex.
If you want to say a particular sex pattern is bad, then give a tangible reason why, and stop bringing God into it

Naturally everyone's instincts already knows what's normal and what's abnormal scientifically having sex through the anus comes with some health implications later even the popular mouth action can easily gives one deadly incurable infections like herpes and throat cancer imagine putting ur mouth where a human being passes out urine and feaces that's a free invitation to diseases. God in his infinite wisdom created the reproductive organs solely for reproduction purposes but man has gone ahead to be abusing it just like he does with other God's creations.

samuelson06:
Don't be unfortunate. Your conscience is your sit of judgment. If you've got to a level that your conscience can't talk to you, that's too bad. Also, I don't really know what's your understanding of judgment. Well, every time you decide in your heart to take a position about an issue, that's judgment. Judgment isn't necessarily a misfortune coming to someone as a result of a wrongdoing they committed, but also your power to judge or decide on a matter.

What’s the meaning of your first statement 😏 I’ll let that slide. Now let’s argue like people with intellects. When Christ came, he came because the law wasn’t perfect. The law was made to punish sinners but when Christ came, he summarized everything into two which are based on love. Jesus never focused on making more laws. That was why he had issues with the pharisees. Even when the adulterous woman wanted to be punished, he restricted them teaching us not to focus on laws.

After Jesus left, the apostles wanted to carry on but there were debates btw the apostle and Paul which brought our mission statement. “ the just shall live by faith.” They never focused on the laws and the debate ended.

Now the Romans came and saw uncivility among the people and wanted to curb it. Then they made rules to govern the people and it’s good. But the next gen now took it as divine laws which they were not so instead of we having Christian “laws” 👆 we are suppose to have Christian doctrines and guidance concerning marital sex and not laws. Cos laws bring punishment. We should all stop using fear tactics to convert people. Tell them the truth so when they bring arguments like this, you won’t have to use your first statement to debate them cos that sounded so uncivilized.
Those rules are guidances and doctrines and not generally laws
Shalom
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Mrexcell:
Naturally everyone's instincts already knows what's normal and what's abnormal scientifically having sex through the anus comes with some health implications later even the popular mouth action can easily gives one deadly incurable infections like herpes and throat cancer imagine putting ur mouth where a human being passes out urine and feaces that's a free invitation to diseases. God in his infinite wisdom created the reproductive organs solely for reproduction purposes but man has gone ahead to be abusing it just like he does with other God's creations.

So the reproductive organs don’t have sexual implications right🤔
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kessler53:
anal sex is an abomination,God hates it, the anus is meant only for the passage of unwanted faeces ( shit), and not for one man or woman to open his or her anus and a man inserts his penis inside

But the reproductive organs can be used for excrement right??
Who gave the body parts duties?
You guys just keep generating more problems for yourself.
That’s why there’s no different between this generation and the Pharisees🤦‍♂️

Dtruthspeaker:
See craze. No spirit told anyone to do anal until children of Sathan told them to chook the anus and that their eyes will open

So you need a spirit to tell you to clap with your hands abi God told you to clap. Our natural instinct is bound to explore bro and if it is done with consent and love, I don’t see anything found with that. That’s why we celebrate explorers. Till tomorrow, even God on his seat knows we’re explorers that’s why he didn’t destroy the children of Babylon when they disobeyed him😁
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Dtruthspeaker:
Go and argue with Paul and Romans 1 who said lasciviousness and filthiness and dishonourment of your own bodies between yourselves.

"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between "themselves:

Only direct guidance I see there is homosexuality, lesbianism and beastiality. There are other sexual immorality but if the couples agree with love and consent. We have no right to judge them. Remember the just shall live by faith not laws😁
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Mrexcell:
Naturally everyone's instincts already knows what's normal and what's abnormal scientifically having sex through the anus comes with some health implications later even the popular mouth action can easily gives one deadly incurable infections like herpes and throat cancer imagine putting ur mouth where a human being passes out urine and feaces that's a free invitation to diseases. God in his infinite wisdom created the reproductive organs solely for reproduction purposes but man has gone ahead to be abusing it just like he does with other God's creations.

Then they should be allowed to face the consequences of their actions and learn their lessons so that God will rest.

This Africa, we always like calling God for everything

SpencerForbes:
What’s the meaning of your first statement 😏 I’ll let that slide. Now let’s argue like people with intellects. When Christ came, he came because the law wasn’t perfect. The law was made to punish sinners but when Christ came, he summarized everything into two which are based on love. Jesus never focused on making more laws. That was why he had issues with the pharisees. Even when the adulterous woman wanted to be punished, he restricted them teaching us not to focus on laws.

After Jesus left, the apostles wanted to carry on but there were debates btw the apostle and Paul which brought our mission statement. “ the just shall live by faith.” They never focused on the laws and the debate ended.

Now the Romans came and saw uncivility among the people and wanted to curb it. Then they made rules to govern the people and it’s good. But the next gen now took it as divine laws which they were not so instead of we having Christian “laws” 👆 we are suppose to have Christian doctrines and guidance concerning marital sex and not laws. Cos laws bring punishment. We should all stop using fear tactics to convert people. Tell them the truth so when they bring arguments like this, you won’t have to use your first statement to debate them cos that sounded so uncivilized.
Those rules are guidances and doctrines and not generally laws
Shalom
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Well, I'm sorry about that statement. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to create any form of law around marital sex. I don't even want to go into religion or theology. However, one thing is clear: Christ never came to abolish the law, and at the same time, grace is not to be abused.

Many of us hide under grace and mercy to do abominable things. That's wrong. Christ came with the Holy Spirit to guide us against the law or sin, but many of us don't even listen to the Holy Spirit and also don't want to be judged with the laws. Instead, we want to hide under grace that's associated with the Holy Spirit and commit sin that we are supposed to be punished with the law. Does that make any sense?

For example, the Holy Spirit can't teach you anal sex or bestiality when the virgina and the woman is right there for you. He can't approve a woman for another woman when the woman was made for the man and the man made for the woman. He can't teach you to chain or tie a woman to the bed or something to sleep with her because there's no place in the Bible that condemns that. So don't say because it's not written in the Bible you should go overboard. The Holy Spirit is bigger than the Bible yet we don't listen to Him.

So this is what I'm talking about. It has nothing to do with trying to sell fear to people but charging them to listen to the inner voice in them that tells them the truth about their choices. That's bigger than reading Bible pages. That's God in you. And by the time you begin to go overboard because the Bible isn't explicit on those actions or choices, then get ready for repercussions. This is my position.

samuelson06:
Well, I'm sorry about that statement. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to create any form of law around marital sex. I don't even want to go into religion or theology. However, one thing is clear: Christ never came to abolish the law, and at the same time, grace is not to be abused.

Many of us hide under grace and mercy to do abominable things. That's wrong. Christ came with the Holy Spirit to guide us against the law or sin, but many of us don't even listen to the Holy Spirit and also don't want to be judged with the laws. Instead, we want to hide under grace that's associated with the Holy Spirit and commit sin that we are supposed to be punished with the law. Does that make any sense?

For example, the Holy Spirit can't teach you anal sex or bestiality when the virgina and the woman is right there for you. He can't approve a woman for another woman when the woman was made for the man and the man made for the woman. He can't teach you to chain or tie a woman to the bed or something to sleep with her because there's no place in the Bible that condemns that. So don't say because it's not written in the Bible you should go overboard. The Holy Spirit is bigger than the Bible yet we don't listen to Him.

So this is what I'm talking about. It has nothing to do with trying to sell fear to people but charging them to listen to the inner voice in them that tells them the truth about their choices. That's bigger than reading Bible pages. That's God in you. And by the time you begin to go overboard because the Bible isn't explicit on those actions or choices, then get ready for repercussions. This is my position.

Now you’ve gotten me. If it is the spirit, then it’s okay. Even the Bible puts it that children are to be given milk and not meat but let it be done moderately because if it was a pagan, he’d have regarded us as liars not knowing the system. So let’s not make it kind of lawful but let’s encourage others to follow the spirit and not abuse grace which is higher than the law🥂
Shalom✌️🚶‍♂️

SpencerForbes:
Now you’ve gotten me. If it is the spirit, then it’s okay. Even the Bible puts it that children are to be given milk and not meat but let it be done moderately because if it was a pagan, he’d have regarded us as liars not knowing the system. So let’s not make it kind of lawful but let’s encourage others to follow the spirit and not abuse grace which is higher than the law🥂
Shalom✌️🚶‍♂️

That's it. And thanks for your understanding. That's why in some churches, they don't approve children's or teenagers' church. Everyone consumes the same Word and Holy Spirit. It's such a beautiful thing that every time you're faced with a choice, you check back your spirit and act accordingly—not Isaiah says this or Matthew says that. And the more beautiful thing is that as you keep submitting to the leading of the Holy Spirit, He keeps talking to you more and more. This doesn't mean you should ditch the Bible, but at some point, even the Bible will become a part of you.

SpencerForbes:
Only direct guidance I see there is homosexuality, lesbianism and beastiality. There are other sexual immorality but if the couples agree with love and consent. We have no right to judge them. Remember the just shall live by faith not laws😁
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24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between "themselves:

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:...

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman...

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;..

All these have already judged you as the Judgment is open ended capturing every case that falls into this situation.

So this pronouncement of judgement is not limited to homosexuality alone but includes every act of "dishonouring your own bodies between yourselves, the unnatural use of a woman and the doing things that are not convenient.

Also you must remember that the statement "the just shall live by faith not laws" is A Law and The Law. So you have no place to hide and God has already found you condemned you as He Said in John 3:18. So face it or keep dodging and trying to create excuses; they won't ever work and your condemnation will still be on you.

Dtruthspeaker:
Unfortunately for you, you misunderstand Paul. It is The Law that created grace. So The Law is Higher than grace!

Eg why did Grace not save Ananias and Sapphire? Or why did it not save Esau after he repented? Or why did it not save Saul or Solomon or Uzzah ?

I won’t engage you again cos you’re funny😂😂 was Esau before or after the coming of Christ😂😂😂😂
You’re funny😂😂😂😂
Even Peter said Ananias sinned against the Holy Spirit😂😂😂
I’m not saying anal is good. My point is, it is not Christian laws but church guidances and counseling to curb barbarism and not make us act like animals😂
Abi you still want to invoke fire😂😂😂
Blacksmith 😂😂😂
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Dtruthspeaker:
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between "themselves:

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:...

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman...

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;..

All these have already judged you as the Judgment is open ended capturing every case that falls into this situation.

So this pronouncement of judgement is not limited to homosexuality alone but includes every act of "dishonouring your own bodies between yourselves, the unnatural use of a woman and the doing things that are not convenient.

Also you must remember that the statement "the just shall live by faith not laws" is A Law and The Law. So you have no place to hide and God has already found you condemned you as He Said in John 3:18. So face it or keep dodging and trying to create excuses; they won't ever work and your condemnation will still be on you.

Are you sure you are a Christian or a Pharisees 😂😂😂
You’re so quick to pronounce judgement on someone cos he doesn’t subscribe to your self deceit😂😂😂

There’s no difference btw you and the people up north 😂😂😂
This same thing was what made the Pharisee hate Jesus😂😂😂

See you in heaven bro🥂
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SpencerForbes:
Nah I don’t subscribe to anal😂 but I’m just trying miseducate the people on your scary hell narrative. No be everything be hell bros. So can down😂
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Everything be hell.

And funny you should say this for it is Written

21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?

22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?

And here you are doing even the worst thing. You say you do not subscribe to anal, yet here you defend it when normally it is those who anal that teach others to anal. So clearly you are worser than those this scripture was talking to. Men, I pity you.

If you are to be believed then this is where you learn that you destroy your own self playing with things that you should never have played with

Dtruthspeaker:
Everything be hell.

And funny you should say this for it is Written

21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?

22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?

And here you are doing even the worst thing. You say you do not subscribe to anal, yet here you defend it when normally it is those who anal that teach others to anal. So clearly you are worser than those this scripture was talking to. Men, I pity you.

If you are to be believed then this is where you learn that you destroy your own self playing with things that you should never have played with

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Christians will cut my neck ooo.
I’m not defending anal. If the two couples agree with love. Let them do it and God will judge. Next time when bringing your teachings, differentiate btw Christians and divine laws and the doctrine of your church😂😂😂😂

The just shall live by faith🥂😝😝😝😝😝
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SpencerForbes:
Are you sure you are a Christian or a Pharisees 😂😂😂
You’re so quick to pronounce judgement on someone cos he doesn’t subscribe to your self deceit😂😂😂

There’s no difference btw you and the people up north 😂😂😂
This same thing was what made the Pharisee hate Jesus😂😂😂

See you in heaven bro🥂
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I'm a Lawyer, so I read and study Judgments. And so I am trying to help everyone here understand that our Judgments have been Written in advance already covering every thing that man can do or plans to do. And to help them see that, that is why John 3:18 Says that "we are condemned already" and not "shall be condemned already" as people f00rishly think.

Judgement Day's Judgement has been Written already and that is what the Bible contains, which f00rish people are thinking is a small thing and do not know what is waiting for them.

So, I am here trying to help people by reading the Judgments God has already fore given and fore Written in advance, in a matter knowing that we men are very f00rish and will surely do all these things.

And I won't have to be fighting all these fights if only those Lawyers who claim that they are Christians were doing their jobs and calling.

But again, those ones don't even know that their own is going to be worser than regular people as God has even kept a special punishment just for them as seen in Luke 11:45 -52. Me, o don't want to be a part of them, so I am trying my very best so that God may keep me out of what is waiting for them for truly lawyers are and should have been the last hope of people but, they are not.

So, I have presented my intentions and now you can leave me alone and look upon The already Written Judgments of God and decide how you want to live and where you want to end up.

I pray, you choose the right and only Way!

Dtruthspeaker:
I'm a Lawyer, so I read and study Judgments. And so I am trying to help everyone here understand that our Judgments have been Written in advance already covering every thing that man can do or plans to do. And to help them see that, that is why John 3:18 Says that "we are condemned already" and not "shall be condemned already" as people f00rishly think.

Judgement Day's Judgement has been Written already and that is what the Bible contains, which f00rish people are thinking is a small thing and do not know what is waiting for them.

So, I am here trying to help people by reading the Judgments God has already fore given and fore Written in advance, in a matter knowing that we men are very f00rish and will surely do all these things.

And I won't have to be fighting all these fights if only those Lawyers who claim that they are Christians were doing their jobs and calling.

But again, those ones don't even know that their own is going to be worser than regular people as God has even kept a special punishment just for them as seen in Luke 11:45 -52. Me, o don't want to be a part of them, so I am trying my very best so that God may keep me out of what is waiting for them for truly lawyers are and should have been the last hope of people but, they are not.

So, I have presented my intentions and now you can leave me alone and look upon The already Written Judgments of God and decide how you want to live and where you want to end up.

I pray, you choose the right and only Way!

Thanks preacher. I pray God directs me😂
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SpencerForbes:
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Christians will cut my neck ooo.
I’m not defending anal. If the two couples agree with love. Let them do it and God will judge. Next time when bringing your teachings, differentiate btw Christians and divine laws and the doctrine of your church😂😂😂😂

This is you not just defending anal but also promoting it.

And I am happy you said couples so it means I can cut them off and say that any and every Christian couple should know and must know that the bible commands that any who does these things dishonours their bodies, and the unnatural use of a woman is corruption, defilement and unholy.as Written in the bible..

[quote author=SpencerForbes post=137191132]The just shall live by faith🥂😝😝😝😝😝
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And funny you say "the just shall live by faith" but you fail to ask, are you just?

And already, you have proven that you are not, so you know what must befall you.
Anyway, you have made your choice and you will carry the consequences of them.

SpencerForbes:
Nah I don’t subscribe to anal😂 but I’m just trying miseducate the people on your scary hell narrative. No be everything be hell bros. So can down😂
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Come on, you do. You support it with you full anal which is why as you confessed you are trying to miseducate people.

Dtruthspeaker:
And funny you say "the just shall live by faith" but you fail to ask, are you just?

And already, you have proven that you are not, so you know what must befall

Thank you daddy😂 Jesus died for my sin 😁 same way he allowed the thief into paradise and the adulterous woman, make e no shock you😂😂😂
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FayaBall:
Come on, you do. You support it with you full anal which is why as you confessed you are trying to miseducate people.

Nah😂😂😂 I disagree ooo😂😂😂 I’ve never tried it in my life. And even if I did, let God be the judge🥂
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Dtruthspeaker:
And funny you say "the just shall live by faith" but you fail to ask, are you just?

And already, you have proven that you are not, so you know what must befall

Of course he is not as he even said he is here to miseducate people. Imagine oo