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| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by GeneralOuki: 5:22pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:Mention the Niger Delta people that were under igbo slavery? |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by Kewekubosineh: 5:22pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:You are a Yoruba man from southwest and you are dictating the tone of mergers with southeast. Taa! Who gave you the audacity! Concentrate on your region. Not a region you have scant knowledge of. Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Bayelsa and Cross River states have cultural affinity with Igbos. They have lived together for ages before the break out of the civil war in late 1960s. The Midwest (now Edo and Delta) have rejected inclusion into southwest. They saw shege as part of Western region in '60s. Enjoy your Southwest! |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by GeneralOuki: 5:22pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
casualobserver:Then let them go! Besides, if not that you have never left your enclave in Yorubaland you would have known that Akwa ibom people and Igbos have a lot in common. Apart from language, they share really similar culture belief system. |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by GeneralOuki: 5:36pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
epainos:The best example is the grouping of Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Cross Rivers, and Idoma from Benue with Igbos. See eh! I can assure you that none of these people will ever join Igbo. They will not. People who are satisfied with their level of freedom. Lol. Have you ever met any Akwa ibomite, especially Ibibio who harbor animosities towards igbo people? I'm sure you haven't because such a thing is very rare. Same with rivers, a lot of ìgbo people are indigenous to Rivers state, Ikwere, Egbema etc. Most of you Yorubas have this indoctrination from birth that everyone in the SS hates the Igbo people and will not want to associate with them. But the reality is very different. Actually it is the Hausa Fulani and the Yorubas that These people are weary of. Put an Igbo man next to a Yoruba and ask an idoma man, Ibibio man or an Oron man to chose, all of them will chose the Igbo. Especially those from Akwa ibom as they share similar culture and systems as the Igbo . |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by GeneralOuki: 5:39pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
epainos:None of these people have said they don't want to join the Igbo, it is only you Yoruba who keeps saying that no one wants to join the Igbo. |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by casualobserver: 5:46pm On Oct 22, 2025*. Modified: 6:05pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
GeneralOuki:1) we are not the ones stopping you from leaving. we pushed for referendum and secession clause you the ibos are the ones who made sure it wasnt included. Zik was the one who insisted secession must be made a treasonable offense and ironsi was the one who removed referendum. 2) You have rep members, senators and governors. if you truly want to leave not that you are trying to use Biafra as an emotional blackmail tool, how come none of your elective members are pushing for a referendum in the senate or house? There is a constitutional review ongoing chaired by an Ibo man in Kalu, how come instead of pushing for these things you are seeking to claim other people's land in the form of seeking to be indigines of other people's ancestral lands. 3) nobody is stopping you from leaving, table your motion through the proper channels, you may be shocked at the support you will get. what culture? everything about you is stolen from others. you dont even know your history, today you are jews. tommorow you are from Lagos, Benin, Ife, Akwa Ibom, Ghana,. I even heard one of you say they are the original inhabitants of England. all this your gaslighting, we want biafra, we want Biafra, nobody is buying your cries anymore. if you want to secede, you want autonomy, you want true federalsim, go to the national assembly and tell your elected reps to table the motion. if it fails at least we know you are serious. not the one that you will shout Biafra today and tommorow you want more states and want to become indigines of Lagos. those are the actions of emotional blackmailers and gaslighters, the actions of comedians. oh and BTW the reason we dont leave our enclave is because we have everything we need here. A man does not leave his house looking for what is not lost. A man does not leave his home for a place worse than his home. What do you have to offer anyone that he will go there, if your place had anything to offer your people would not be all over the place looking for opportunities. And please dont get it twisted. The SW is better off as an independent country, so also the SS. Your problem (if you are truly serious, which we know you arent) is not us. the problem is the Fulani North and please dont get it twisted, its not because they want you. it is because they fear a balkanization of the North if one section goes. IF the rest of Nigeria most particularly the North could remain one if just the ibos go, i can guarantee you the vote in the North will be 100% their fear is if they allow you to go, the minorities in the North would also want to go...thats their real problem not you....what do you bring to the table? the reason all of you are shouting biafra is because you know your leaders in Zik and Ironsi have made it almost impossible and you know you need Nigeria more than Nigeria needs you. Agitation for Biafra is a negotiating tool that people have seen through and no one is buying anymore. if you are serious make it a condition that your current leaders wont be reelected unless they fight for Biafra in the national assembly. |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by Levels1(m): 5:50pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
I wish this could be table out at conference of state, then people will hear different views on a particular region as no one will like to alien with then. The are developers but couldn't developed their region .... very backward people |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by epainos: 6:07pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
GeneralOuki:How do you know Yorubas only say so? And how do you even know I am one? But I mentioned Benin not wanting to be with the Yoruba. Didn't you read that? The truth is in your face. Wike told igbos that he is not Igbo. Amaechi "whined" them, but later he said he isn't Igbo and only Saif that for politics. Calabar, Akwa Ibom, and the rest don't want Igbo...it is clear. No reason to tell lies. And Igbo cannot force it. Rivers won't hand over their oil if that is what Igbo wants. Lol. A beg, don't let me sound tribalistic...I am just stating facts. Una see that of Igbo, but didn't day anything about the north and yoruba. |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by epainos: 6:13pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
GeneralOuki:How you know I am Yoruba baffles me. Igbo's blood too dey hot. Didn't you read about the tribe that won't join Yoruba, and the states that may be hard to know how to handle them in the north in my post? You neglected those, but picked out only Igbo. Na waooo. Una body too dey hot. You should be an Igbo...your body dey hot.. |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by Idaytesj29(m): 6:24pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
casualobserver:Why? Are they a problem? |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by AreaFada2: 6:31pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
Wow! Prof is looking almost as young as he was over 30 years ago. This man and his staff suffered long periods of no salary at the embassy back then. Especially in the early part of Abacha govt. Thanks for your moral support back then, Sir. Yes, the Eastern Region bit doesn't quite gel. Leave the geopolitical zones as they currently are in the South. No time to waste. The Middle Belt part may need some realignment later. No new states. Reduce the FG's exclusive list DRASTICALLY to Currency/Central Banking, Foreign affairs, Interior as it it applies nationally/Federal Police for interstate offences, immigration, Supreme Court and military/Defence but more decentralised and a few more critical matters. Much of policing, local infrastructure, education, health, employment and others go to regions. Abolish states and introduce districts/Local Councils/mayors to be at the heart of local development. No commissioners, SSAs/SAs and thousands of political jobbers. Cut parastatals and useless Board of this and Board of that, this and that Authority. That will cut the waste. Each region can operate their own preferred legal system. Some can forbid alcohol, pork and hotels if they feel those are their biggest problem. |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by gidgiddy: 6:35pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
casualobserver:Which is why some Igbos like me dont understand why the rest of you want to fight war when we say we want to go our way as a seperate country |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by gidgiddy: 6:38pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:Which is you people should support the Igbos to go their way as a seperate country |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by gidgiddy: 6:43pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
casualobserver:Anyone still looking for a secession clause to dissolve a British colonial creation such as Nigeria is a unity begger. What we need is referendum so that everyone can vote their destiny and go their different ways. Its that simple |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by casualobserver: 7:03pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
gidgiddy:Unity begger is the one who instead of demanding their elected representatives fight for referendum and right tio secession are busy agitating for more states and how to become indigines in other states. talk is cheap, you know a man's true intention by what he does not what he says. Who removed the referendum? who abolished regional autonomy? After all it was referendum that created mid-west region after independence? oga this gaslighting was for yesterday o! nobody is falling for your emotional black mail. if you want referendum or secession, behave like people who want referendum. You cant be escaping your zone by the busloads, you dont invest in your zone, you troup to other people's zone, you diusguise your names and start to bear non ibo names, you try to claim other people's culture, you are boasting how you own properties in other people's land, how you are present in every corner of the country, your elected representative have never fought or moved a motion for referendum, regional govt or secession, and you think we are fools who can be gaslighted. you say you want Biafra but you are crying for more states. Act like people who want referendum then we will take you seriously otherwise to us you cries of marginalisation or Biafra are just using emotional blackmail to gain more than your fair share of the resources of the country. You gain more from Nigeria than Nigerian gains from you if at all anything we gain except headaches and perpertual friction and conflicts. Prove us wrong and tell your elected members to agitate for referendum resource control Biafra etc then we'll take you seriously. Tell Kalu you did not elect him to ask for states but a referendum, then we'll take you seriously. what are you doing in Lagos and the SW if what you truly want is Biafra? you ocuppy the no4 position in the country, he is chairman of the constitutional reveiw commite, instead of him pushing for referendum or you insisting he does, he is pushing that ibos become indigines of SW. is that what you sent him there to do? is that Biafra agitation? yeye dey smell! |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by Kreesxxx: 7:30pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
gidgiddy:No one is stopping Igbos from leaving. Just declare that you want your five states to leave. I will join the protest. |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by Kreesxxx: 7:34pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
Kewekubosineh:Igbos are the worst. These states you mentioned would be the last to accept inclusion with the Igbos. Yes Igbos were with them before the war and before the leadership of the East was handed over to them. Before the leadership was handed to them Igbos were as cool as a kitten. But immediately they attained the height of leadership they immediately became lion. Lion oooo! |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by Kreesxxx: 7:36pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
thomas2024:What is wrong to say Igbos should stay on their own? Is this wrong? Igbos like autonomy and I am saying it should remain so. Let them be in their own. |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by jamafa: 7:42pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
casualobserver:I thought Igbos were loved everywhere 😊 |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by Johnnyplus01k(m): 7:48pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
The best option |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by gidgiddy: 8:14pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:Of course all of you are stopping Igbos from leaving otherwise it would have been you people that would have told Igbos to go long ago As for the 5 states, Gambia is an independent country of just 2 million people, not even quarter of the population of my State Anambra Just Anambra can be a seperate country |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by gidgiddy: 8:22pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
casualobserver:Which referendum did the British hold before making you a Nigerian? You got your present country through a land stealing exercise known as colonisation Some of us whose lands were stolen in 1914 to create Nigeria simply want our lands back |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by GeneralOuki: 8:26pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
epainos:Because it is easy to deduce that from your comments. It is the same type of comments made by most Yoruba people on this site. Whatever Wike and Amaechi said is inconsequential as long as the larger Ikwere people are concerned. The ikwere have been very open about their igboness and have warned against people like you trying to play divisive games on who they are. Here is them declaring that they indeed are Igbo https://www.vanguardngr.com/2025/02/group-says-indigenous-igbos-in-rivers-part-of-ndigbo-ethnic-nationality/ Besides it's really funny to read the divisive tactics by you Southwesters on this Ikwere issue while the current President of Ohanézè Ndị igbo is an Kwere man. Ánd I'm sure you have never met an Akwa ibom or Calabar person in your life before otherwise you would have known that they share similar things in common with the Igbo and they mix very well. Go to Abia State, there's a place in Aba around Umuogele where you will find lots of akwa Ibom people who have mixed with the Igbo so much you will not even know whether you're in Akwa ibom or Abia State... I know that history was not taught to you in school, but the igbos and Ibibio, annang and Efik people have always intermixed via marriage, trade and culture pre colonial times and up till today. Animosity between the Ibibio, Efik, Oron, Annang people and the Igbos only exists on the minds of Southwesters, all these people will rather go with the Igbo than with the Yoruba or any of ethnicity across the Niger. You people are the original " landlord travel and see" |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by chaloskyx: 8:32pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
let me help you ppl with something you will all agree too give the north region rivers state give the west region Akwaibom State Give the East delta state There fixed it i know you all dont mind regionalism but its the oil thats the problem so i have given everyone a fair share are you happy now ![]() |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by casualobserver: 8:45pm On Oct 22, 2025*. Modified: 6:26am On Oct 23, 2025 |
gidgiddy:Oga when you walk your talk, we shall believe you. Nobody forced you into Nigeria infact the north and the west insisted on a secession clause. It was because zik insisted on secession being a treasonable offense that our independence was delayed by 4 years. Everybody else wanted the right to secede. We don’t have it because of you. We had referendum, ironsi removed it. The North was ready to secede after the counter coup of 1966. It was when the British ambassador informed the Northern coupists that "why do you want to secede when Ironsi has given you power over the whole country" that they realised that the kind of power Ironsi had abrogated to the Ibos when he was Head of state that they now stood to inherit that they jettisoned the idea of secession. Whatever problems you find yourselves in Nigeria today are of your own making, due to your lack of foresight, your covetous nature, your desire to dominate others and your inability to see beyond your noses. All the things you claim you want (which I don’t believe because your actions suggest otherwise) you had and you reversed it. Like I said yeye dey smell! Nobody stole your land (you are the ones I. Other people’s land) the Ibos more than any section of this country have always pushed for one Nigeria because 1) they have always known that their land is not sufficient for their population and 2) they have always had this deluded belief that they are destined to lord it over the rest of us. Go and tell your elected representatives to advocate for referendum not stealing more from others. This one Nigeria project has always been an Ibo project from day 1. |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by Kreesxxx: 8:48pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
gidgiddy:This is why you people can never be together. Even when you people leave there will be intra fighting for superiority. |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by gidgiddy: 8:53pm On Oct 22, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:You know a unity beggar when they start drinking panadol over other people's headache Wether you people like it or not, Igbos will have their own independent country out of this failed British colonial contraption called Nigeria |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by Kreesxxx: 12:17am On Oct 23, 2025 |
gidgiddy:Fives States Only as no one is interested in joining you people. |
| Re: Collapse Nigeria Into Zones, Ex-Envoy Prof Akinjide Osuntokun Tells FG by cocolacec(m): 2:05am On Oct 23, 2025 |
10 zones will be manageable. |
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Didn't you read about the tribe that won't join Yoruba, and the states that may be hard to know how to handle them in the north in my post? You neglected those, but picked out only Igbo. Na waooo. Una body too dey hot.
You should be an Igbo...your body dey hot..