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Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Softmirror: 11:50am On Oct 23, 2025
tctrills:
Lol, I knew you must end up insulting. You guys can't hide hate. We were both discussing the progress of the Igbos in Lagos, but somehow, you started getting bitter. From pitying me to hating me. You guys tribalism is glorious.
Lol 😂. You can't gas light me. I even made bold you comment which lol 😂. Was a joke, I would have called it an insult though but it made me laugh while trying to make you reason deep.

It wasn't an insult but a sincere advice. You will only be digging in vain lol. 😁
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Ttalk: 11:51am On Oct 23, 2025
Nwaikpe:
Funny that you are making claims over facts.

"Lagos division."

grin grin grin

Where do you think the name Lagos came from?

I guess you don't know it came from the people who started the town and made it Portuguese.

So, a people lived there, had a city, and didn't have a name? What is Eko? Why didn't the Protuguese see it and call it Eko if it ever existed? grin grin grin
Lagos is a common name that bound the people together, Eko and other names have been in existence and will still continue to be.

Lagos is named after the state that is why it is called Lagos state, we still retain òye names, Eko, Epetedo, Isheri, Epe etc
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by tctrills: 11:53am On Oct 23, 2025
Softmirror:
Lol 😂. You can't gas light me. I even made bold you comment which lol 😂. Was a joke, I would have called it an insult though but it made me laugh while trying to make you reason deep.

It wasn't an insult but a sincere advice. You will only be digging in vain lol. 😁
Lol, you are trying to advise us to leave Lagos. No thanks. We are very good where we are. Thank you, but no. Each year, a larger slice of the city becomes ours, so don't expect us to go any time soon. We are your neighbors for all eternity. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by FreeStuffsNG:
tctrills:
Not new, almost every community in the world welcomes others. The people of Abuja, for example, or you can talk about the US, which takes in millions of people each year. There is nothing incredible about that. In my village, we have a few Yoruba people. That's how life is meant to be. I also know landlords in Lagos that don't rent to Igbo so the hostility goes both ways. Bad human behavior is not restricted to any tribe.
I am enlightening you to the deliberate intention of my forebears to build a prosperous and sustainable homeland based on our Yoruba industry and hospitality to strangers and you are trying to make it look like it's a common thing. Smh.

Hell No! It's not common and has never been common. Some people cannibalize on strangers. Hosting strangers is a matter of life and death in your region then and most of those places you mentioned.
Some of them practice osu that perpetually segregate against some of their fellow villagers while most parts of your region practice feisty human cannibalism.
Check out the map of cannibalism in Nigeria as at that time.

Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Ttalk: 11:55am On Oct 23, 2025
OredoPikin2:
u can continue lying to yourself
if u can reason without emotion, ask yourself why till today, the oba of lagos always claim Benin root and ancestry.
ask ur parent about Prince Ado. the first Oba of Lagos.
ask ur people where Ashipa came from.
Stops lying his comment about Lagos is in internet for and educate yourself, parading a doctored story won't change anything
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Gerhards: 11:55am On Oct 23, 2025
Schlumeinstein:
Let me state in strong SOUTH SOUTH is NIGER DELTA.......there will never be anything like biafiaa....we don't and will never ASSOCIATE with igbotic biafraas or whatsoever u call it because OUR FORE FATHER REJECTED IT...
Typical of a southwest comment, change your way and be proud of where you come from.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Softmirror: 11:57am On Oct 23, 2025
tctrills:
Lol, you are trying to advise us to leave Lagos. No thanks. We are very good where we are. Thank you, but no. Each year, a larger slice of the city becomes ours, so don't expect us to go any time soon. We are your neighbors for all eternity. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Repeating the same illusion over and over again.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by GeneralOuki: 11:57am On Oct 23, 2025
masterfactor:
The people that called LAGOS a no mans land was not even part of the Lagos right from inception. People from the south East has no history with people from the South West.
It was a Yoruba man that called it a No man's land.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by amaridigital(m): 12:02pm On Oct 23, 2025
Ttalk:
Pls show me the population of the Igbo there or I won't accept it
The British who released that census marginalized the ibos in 1891. That's 134 years ago. Lagos developers my ass.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by tctrills: 12:02pm On Oct 23, 2025
FreeStuffsNG:
I am enlightening you to the deliberate intention of my forebears to build a sustainable homeland based on hospitality to strangers and you are trying to make it look like it's a common thing. Smh.

Hell No! It's not common. Hosting strangers is a matter of live in your region and most of those places you mentioned.
Some of them practice osu that perpetually segregate against some of their fellow villagers while most parts of your region practice feisty human cannibalism.
Check out the map of cannibalism in Nigeria as at that time.
Lol, I have traveled the world, there is nothing new with strangers living in your land. It's happening all over the world, and again some yorubas practice tribalism. They segregate against Igbos. They wouldnt even rent to an Igbo
I have lived in Jos, Abuja, and in other counties. I can tell you that Yorubas are not the top 50 kindest hosts. Don't get me wrong, the yorubas are ok, but nothing exceptional.
We, your visitors, are in the best position to tell you, especially those of us who have lived all over the country and the world. I have visited Pakistan, for example, and was fed and housed for free by people who never knew me. That one can't happen in Abeokuta.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Nwaikpe: 12:02pm On Oct 23, 2025
Ttalk:
Lagos is a common name that bound the people together, Eko and other names have been in existence and will still continue to be.

Lagos is named after the state that is why it is called Lagos state, we still retain òye names, Eko, Epetedo, Isheri, Epe etc
grin grin grin

Ok. Oga. Thank you, sir.


But sha, the meaning of Lagos, which is in Nigeria, is the translation of the word "lagoon" in Portuguese.

It doesn't mean any people. It simply means a place where the Portuguese traded business with West Africa.

No people existed there.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by GeneralOuki: 12:02pm On Oct 23, 2025
Toluwanise247:
The igbo’s don’t exist then ?
Why are you people boldly displaying your lack of education on this site? Was Nigeria in existence in 1800s? What would an igbo man be doing in Lagos when they had just come out of a long war with the British? It was not until 1915 that the Igbo started moving to other parts of the newly created Nigeria charting new frontiers.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by OredoPikin2: 12:03pm On Oct 23, 2025
forgiveness:
Ashipa is an Awori man. He went to Benin and married the daughter of Benin. Ado is the child born by both that later became King.

After Ado mother died, he requested a town in Remo to bring Eyo masquerade to celebrate the burial of his mother and that was how Eyo masquerade came to Lagos.

I don't need to ask anybody because that is our history. You can't change it.
lolz
who are the parents of Ashipa in Awori?
or Ashipa fell from the sky or trekked from saudi arabia like oduduwa lies u were told grin

just tell me the parent of Ashipa in Awori grin
and also tell me the name of the daughter of Oba of Benin he married grin
meanwhile, if you can or cant provide all these, know say u nor dey think.
una go just dey twist history as if the people u are talking to doesnt think like you.

in Benin i will not only tell you who Ashipa parents were, i will tell u the great grand father to the over 32 generations before him grin
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by NovusHomo(m):
chatinent:
That means that the people who claim to own Lagos today are not even from Lagos!
These are 1891 figures. I guess they were still living on treetops, and walking around naked huh Who knows. Just a guess. I come in peace. grin
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by SonOfDSoil01: 12:05pm On Oct 23, 2025
BlackViper:
">https://x.com/StatiSense/status/1674431493236723712?t=oP5vIBnKmJ0BUtRu2NQRbA&s=19[/quote]grin the busy body noise makers can’t even be found on the list yet they always claim to know the history of the indigenous Lagos people more than the aborigines themselves…..we don’t share traditions or customs nor do we share border but they make Lagos their lifetime problem, funny bunch of clowns with no documented history except for their Biafra war undecided
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Ttalk: 12:05pm On Oct 23, 2025
tctrills:
Lol, you are trying to advise us to leave Lagos. No thanks. We are very good where we are. Thank you, but no. Each year, a larger slice of the city becomes ours, so don't expect us to go any time soon. We are your neighbors for all eternity. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
It is comment like this that made us withdraw the privilege you enjoy, before now the ruling party in Lagos used to give you slot in HoA and HoR and position of Vice chairman but all that has stopped and any Local government chairman and other elected representative that allowed any of you to win any election in Lagos state has ended his career.

The reforms have stated already, don't just cry when it hits you
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Gerhards: 12:05pm On Oct 23, 2025
FreeStuffsNG:
I am enlightening you to the deliberate intention of my forebears to build a sustainable homeland based on hospitality to strangers and you are trying to make it look like it's a common thing. Smh.

Hell No! It's not common and has never been common. Some people cannibalize on strangers. Hosting strangers is a matter of life and death in your region then and most of those places you mentioned.
Some of them practice osu that perpetually segregate against some of their fellow villagers while most parts of your region practice feisty human cannibalism.
Check out the map of cannibalism in Nigeria as at that time.
Whenever you guys run out of idea during a serious conversation or get upset, then next thing is to start going out of point and pettiness, do you know how many mined skull in my laptop right now by the people of skull miners?

Please can you stop deviating from the main point? grin
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by tctrills: 12:07pm On Oct 23, 2025
Ttalk:
It is comment like this that made us withdraw the privilege you enjoy, before now the ruling party in Lagos used to give you slot in HoA and HoR and position of Vice chairman but all that has stopped and any Local government chairman and other elected representative that allowed any of you to win any election in Lagos state has ended his career.

The reforms have stated already, don't just cry when it hits you
With all you have withdrawn, what has changed? Instead, we keep getting a larger slice of the city each year. Please keep your privilege; we never needed it. We have something better.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Gerhards: 12:07pm On Oct 23, 2025
GeneralOuki:
It was a Yoruba man that called it a No man's land.
Most of them commenting are not even from anywhere near Lagos, most from Oyo, Ondo, Ekiti, Ilorin, and Osun states
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by sparko1(m): 12:09pm On Oct 23, 2025
Nwaikpe:
But it is clear that everyone there was from different places.
Meaning there is absolutely nothing like "Lagosian" but a confederation of people from different places.


Abi you decided to overlook the stats and just make a comment?
Maybe you need glasses, over 98% of the people are yorubas, that they are from other states is irrelevant.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Nwaikpe: 12:10pm On Oct 23, 2025
Lukuluku69:
Like I said earlier, technically, no one owns anywhere, but people can claim ancestry over a place they have been over a period.

You have the example of the Fulani sojourn in Kwara. Yes, they came, were pushed back, but eventually settled in that space, and if you go there till today, you will see the line between the earlier people and the Fulanis. That the Fulanis seeing yourself as aliens in a space is not the same as saying no one owns the space.

And everyone traded in Slaves, the degree is the difference. Everyone does. Also, the Brits and the Portuguese find it harder to move in the Savanah and the Coasts than the thick Forest of the hinterland of the east and they never operated the city states of the Hausa/Nupe/Yoruba Kingdoms, so there was no need to sell rival city/Kingdoms citizens as slaves. Didn't they have the Outcasts amongst them or labelled some as Outcasts?
No, sir. They never labelled anyone as that.

They had a caste system, and some fell in the lower caste.

The reason they weren't involved in that trade was simply because (never because they were more moral):
1. They never had anything like a centralized system of governance
2. They were receptive of the colonial culture and religion faster than anyone and second only to the Calabar. So, the white men saw them as equals first.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Gerhards: 12:10pm On Oct 23, 2025
SonOfDSoil01:
grin the busy body noise makers can’t even be found on the list yet they always claim to know the history of the indigenous Lagos people more than the aborigines themselves…..we don’t share traditions or customs nor do we share border but they make Lagos their lifetime problem, funny bunch of clowns with no documented history except for their Biafra war undecided
Still does not make the place your own, what about the Hausas and other tribes on the Census even though it could be fake or manipulated grin grin
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by OredoPikin2: 12:12pm On Oct 23, 2025
Ttalk:
Stops lying his comment about Lagos is in internet for and educate yourself, parading a doctored story won't change anything
i asked him a question
he said ashipa is awori married to the daughter of oba of benin
i asked 2 questions
1. who are the parents of ashipa in awori?
2. what is the name of the princess or the daughter of oba benin that ashipa married?

i await for you both

this is not oduduwa history of falling from sky or trekking from saudi grin
every twist of history u will ever present will be met with facts.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Ttalk: 12:12pm On Oct 23, 2025
Nwaikpe:
grin grin grin

Ok. Oga. Thank you, sir.


But sha, the meaning of Lagos, which is in Nigeria, is the translation of the word "lagoon" in Portuguese.

It doesn't mean any people. It simply means a place where the Portuguese traded business with West Africa.

No people existed there.
You are wrong Lagos is named after a port town in Portugal.

Every Lagosian who attended University in Lagos had to pass a course in History of Lagos, besides, our fathers are very learned and have records of events that predates Nigeria, You can inbox me if you are so keen to know more about Lagos.

I've been to riverine areas of Bayelsa and Rivers state and their fishing trap is similar to what we have, but we still retail the superior design and the originality is there. Just as in food and way of life.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Nwaikpe: 12:14pm On Oct 23, 2025
Ttalk:
What's the meaning of this nonsense. I Lagosian and our history revolves around water, the culture, food and story has so much connection with water.

How dare you tell the story of the people you are not part of, this insult is becoming nauseating and if you are given appropriate response now that's when mod will active ban.

Never ever should you speak about people culture and heritage you don't know anything about
"I Lagosian..."

grin grin grin

Ogbeni doesn't even know that the word "Lagos" is not Yoruba. He is claiming a place that never existed. It's just like the people living in Bonny Island, who moved there to work as manual staffs for the oil companies, in 50 years time, claiming to be Bonnarian. grin grin grin


There was no story.
Don't craft anything. Or you could do so and make it sound the way Palestinians craft theirs as well. grin grin
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Ttalk: 12:15pm On Oct 23, 2025
OredoPikin2:
lolz
who are the parents of Ashipa in Awori?
or Ashipa fell from the sky or trekked from saudi arabia like oduduwa lies u were told grin

just tell me the parent of Ashipa in Awori grin
and also tell me the name of the daughter of Oba of Benin he married grin
meanwhile, if you can or cant provide all these, know say u nor dey think.
una go just dey twist history as if the people u are talking to doesnt think like you.

in Benin i will not only tell you who Ashipa parents were, i will tell u the great grand father to the over 32 generations before him grin
I warned you severally to stop claiming Benin, if it look like Akpu and smells like Akpu then it's definitely Akpu.

Let that sink
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by GeneralOuki: 12:17pm On Oct 23, 2025
Kingluqman:
Yeast nor dey this data grin
You people are just revealing how educationally malnourished you are. What is an igbo man doing in Lagos in 1800s when they were still fighting a colonial war against the British during that time? As at 1899 the British have yet to gain foothold on ìgbo land.
Go and read a book
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Ttalk: 12:18pm On Oct 23, 2025
Nwaikpe:
"I Lagosian..."

grin grin grin

Ogbeni doesn't even know that the word "Lagos" is not Yoruba. He is claiming a place that never existed. It's just like the people living in Bonny Island, who moved there to work as manual staffs for the oil companies, in 50 years time, claiming to be Bonnarian. grin grin grin


There was no story.
Don't craft anything. Or you could do so and make it sound the way Palestinians craft theirs as well. grin grin
Are u sure you can read and understand?

I sincerely doubt that, because your response doesn't show you understand what I wrote up there, let me allow you to glow in your ignorance
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by GeneralOuki: 12:20pm On Oct 23, 2025
Ttalk:
Pls show me the population of the Igbo there or I won't accept it
Go and read a book and stop displaying your lack of historical education on here. As at 1891 there was nothing like Nigeria, the British have not yet conquered the Igbo land so There's no way an igbo would be in Lagos at this time.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by tctrills: 12:23pm On Oct 23, 2025
Softmirror:
Repeating the same illusion over and over again.
You can choose to remain in pain while a great people continue to move forward. It's up to you to remain in 1891. Some of us are already thinking of the next 50 to 100 years. Then, one of your grandchildren with continue to point to the 1891 census data. If you like, remain lazy and continue to nurse tribalism and hate. Business and commerce always win, not hate and tribalism. No time
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