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Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Nwaikpe: 1:11pm On Oct 23, 2025
sparko1:
I hope you don't have children, passing this kind of stupidity to another generation is disheartening.

The statement simply means 98 percent of the people there at the time were yorubas, so it's yoruba land, whether it was called Lagos or any other names is irrelevant, the land and the people are the same.
So the Igbos were right too:

The majority of Lagos at this time are Igbos, and in some time, they too can claim that it is Igbo land. Any other name is irrelevant, the land and the people are the same. grin grin grin

!nsults don't make anyone sound smarter. grin grin
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by GeneralOuki: 1:11pm On Oct 23, 2025
tctrills:
Lol, I knew you must end up insulting. You guys can't hide hate. We were both discussing the progress of the Igbos in Lagos, but somehow, you started getting bitter. From pitying me to hating me. You guys tribalism is glorious.
They can not think beyond tribal lines.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by tctrills: 1:14pm On Oct 23, 2025
GeneralOuki:
They can not think beyond tribal lines.
I tell you.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Christistruth03: 1:16pm On Oct 23, 2025
MatrixCircle:
They was Port Harcourt seaport and the most vibrant one was that in Sapele .Sapele was like Lagos seaport of today. It was a very buoyant .

Every ibo importers were using Sapele in Delta state, until it was destroyed by Nigerian government to favour Lagos seaport. Import and Export was done in Sapele by most ibo businesses. That's the reason they moved to Lagos. No Sapele is the reason. They was Calabar seaport too.
Port Harcourt Was built in 1914

It was Calabar port the East used
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Christistruth03: 1:19pm On Oct 23, 2025
Ojuntana:
All these figures are not reliable
People generally shied away from census in the colonial period

Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Ttalk: 1:21pm On Oct 23, 2025
Nwaikpe:
Good that you want to focus on those guys. Let's do it.

Where did they learn the caste system from? Where did your people learn your culture from? Religion?

grin grin grin
I[b] understand the huts thing. You guys use that statement to console yourself for the fact that the average Igbo community was speaking good English, living in good colonial-style houses, praying the rosary, and even attending universities before the others did. [/b]

The only people who superseded them were the Ijaws and Efik/Ibibio. You listen too much to the message of Reno Omokri. grin
Up till today, there are places in the north that still go about unclothed.

The North African Tuaregs conquered Northern Nigeria before the Britons did. And what they did in Northern Nigeria was that they stripped them of their culture (religion was part of their culture) and gave them a new religion, which they now claim to be their culture. And that was in the early 1800s. You think when the North Africans conquered them, they taught them how to build skyscrapers? grin grin grin The Tauregs only taught them (enforced on them) the clothing of the desert people (and their religion) thereof.



And just so that you get it right: the Briton saw ALL who accepted the Christian faith as equals. That was a part you never knew. The church never discriminated between bound or free, rich or poor, and the Britons were under the Anglican church. You thought the same way Adamu was treated is the same Chukwudi was? grin grin
Seriously I should have known that I was chatting with people who believe Buhari died and was changed to El Jibrin of Sudan

At the bolded suggest you didn't study history as a subject otherwise won't claim the British interact with the Igbo first when they landed in the Niger area

The 1st Missionary school, first missionary cemetery, first story building, first this and first that can only be found in my state.

History tells us that Igbo were the last sets of people the British visited
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Ttalk: 1:21pm On Oct 23, 2025
Nwaikpe:
Good that you want to focus on those guys. Let's do it.

Where did they learn the caste system from? Where did your people learn your culture from? Religion?

grin grin grin
I understand the huts thing. You guys use that statement to console yourself for the fact that the average Igbo community was speaking good English, living in good colonial-style houses, praying the rosary, and even attending universities before the others did.

The only people who superseded them were the Ijaws and Efik/Ibibio. You listen too much to the message of Reno Omokri. grin
Up till today, there are places in the north that still go about unclothed.

The North African Tuaregs conquered Northern Nigeria before the Britons did. And what they did in Northern Nigeria was that they stripped them of their culture (religion was part of their culture) and gave them a new religion, which they now claim to be their culture. And that was in the early 1800s. You think when the North Africans conquered them, they taught them how to build skyscrapers? grin grin grin The Tauregs only taught them (enforced on them) the clothing of the desert people (and their religion) thereof.



And just so that you get it right: the Briton saw ALL who accepted the Christian faith as equals. That was a part you never knew. The church never discriminated between bound or free, rich or poor, and the Britons were under the Anglican church. You thought the same way Adamu was treated is the same Chukwudi was? grin grin
Seriously I should have known that I was chatting with people who believe Buhari died and was changed to El Jibrin of Sudan

At the bolded suggest you didn't study history as a subject otherwise won't claim the British interact with the Igbo first when they landed in the Niger area

The 1st Missionary school, first missionary cemetery, first story building, first this and first that can only be found in my state.

History tells us that Igbo were the last sets of people the British visited
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by tenpipsperday: 1:23pm On Oct 23, 2025
masterfactor:
The people that called LAGOS a no mans land was not even part of the Lagos right from inception. People from the south East has no history with people from the South West.
The best and only way to stop this your premium tears about the Igbos is to ask your senators to vote for separation so Igbos can go but ask your father why your people fought to keep the Igbos in their midst
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Christistruth03: 1:23pm On Oct 23, 2025
forgiveness:
Eko are not Benin. Stop lying here.

Eko are Yoruba descendants that came back from slavery and the Indigenous Eko people.
Actually Eko are the Lagos Island Awori 90%
the rest were Saro and Aguda enslaved returnees
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Christistruth03: 1:26pm On Oct 23, 2025
Ttalk:
Seriously I should have known that I was chatting with people who believe Buhari died and was changed to El Jibrin of Sudan

At the bolded suggest you didn't study history as a subject otherwise won't claim the British interact with the Igbo first when they landed in the Niger area

The 1st Missionary school, first missionary cemetery, first story building, first this and first that can only be found in my state.

History tells us that Igbo were the last sets of people the British visited
They were the very last to reach Lagos
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Christistruth03: 1:28pm On Oct 23, 2025
Ecomfreecourse:
Really now I am wondering how a man from osun state took over your dear Lagos state up till now
Didn’t you see Oyo on the Census?
Tinubu is Ethnic Oyo


They Oyos were already in Lagos Centuries before
you knew what or where Lagos was
Ebutte Meta and Badagry were Ports of the Oyo Empire
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Ttalk: 1:30pm On Oct 23, 2025
Nwaikpe:
grin grin grin

Do you even know what a university is? So UniLag or whatever university you are talking about, had to segregate the courses of a "Lagosian" from others?

Oh, so you know that nothing existed there? That is why a new name had to be given to it. Now you know why the place called Oyo was not renamed "Lisbon"—because people were already there.

"Fishing net" design. grin grin

You try.
Stop sounding as if every words must be spelt out for you like a kindergarten before you can understand. Am referring to state University but you are tagging federal university, why didn't you add private university so you can sound more intelligent.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Gerhards: 1:31pm On Oct 23, 2025
Christistruth03:
Didn’t you see Oyo on the Census?
Tinubu is Ethnic Oyo
No amount of fake documents or conjured stories can hide the truth about Lagos, some part of Lagos belongs to EWE tribe who you can found in Ghana, Benin Republic. make you no rewrite Lagos history. Ire oo
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by GeneralOuki: 1:32pm On Oct 23, 2025
Lukuluku69:
Like I said earlier, technically, no one owns anywhere, but people can claim ancestry over a place they have been over a period.

You have the example of the Fulani sojourn in Kwara. Yes, they came, were pushed back, but eventually settled in that space, and if you go there till today, you will see the line between the earlier people and the Fulanis. That the Fulanis seeing yourself as aliens in a space is not the same as saying no one owns the space.

And everyone traded in Slaves, the degree is the difference. Everyone does. Also, the Brits and the Portuguese find it harder to move in the Savanah and the Coasts than the thick Forest of the hinterland of the east and they never operated the city states of the Hausa/Nupe/Yoruba Kingdoms, so there was no need to sell rival city/Kingdoms citizens as slaves. Didn't they have the Outcasts amongst them or labelled some as Outcasts?
Nonsense. The British moved in the savannah just as well as they did in the hinterland if the east, especially in the coastal areas where they berthed and colonised earlier than most places, e.g Opobo kingdom and Lagos. The British directly and indirectly operated the Yoruba kingdom and Hausa/Fulani kingdoms after they conquered them . They deposed Ọbá kosoko and installed their stooge Akitoye as a way to gain total control of Lagos.
The Brits never engaged in slavery in Nigeria, they abolished it, and they used the accusations of slavery to depose the monarchies that didn't kowtow to them.

And those Hausas and Nupe you see on that census were mostly slaves owned by Yoruba chiefs, very few of them were free people.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Spandau: 1:32pm On Oct 23, 2025
AqualinaXYZ:
Now the real Eko Lagos indigenes no even reach 2%



Every south westerner has moved to claim Lagos



Not like they even have beautiful houses



They all live in face me I face u
Therefore, leave Lagos the hell alone. It belongs to the SW.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Spandau: 1:35pm On Oct 23, 2025
Ojuntana:
All these figures are not reliable
People generally shied away from census in the colonial period
Yinmu
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Spandau: 1:36pm On Oct 23, 2025
tctrills:
That tells you that change is the only constant thing. A lot has changed since 130 years. Ownership has been changing hands. And it is a good thing.
If Ibos think they can "own" Lagos, then they're planning suicide.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by GeneralOuki: 1:36pm On Oct 23, 2025
Ttalk:
Lagos is a common name that bound the people together, Eko and other names have been in existence and will still continue to be.

Lagos is named after the state that is why it is called Lagos state, we still retain òye names, Eko, Epetedo, Isheri, Epe etc
You don't even know the meaning of Lagos. Lagos was named by the Europeans, Portuguese to be precise and it means "Lakes". Eko on the other hand is a Benin word. Long before the arrival of the British, the Oba of Benin was the one who chose the oba of Lagos. Do you know why it is like that?
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Lukuluku69(m): 1:40pm On Oct 23, 2025
Nwaikpe:
Good that you want to focus on those guys. Let's do it.

Where did they learn the caste system from? Where did your people learn your culture from? Religion?

grin grin grin
I understand the huts thing. You guys use that statement to console yourself for the fact that the average Igbo community was speaking good English, living in good colonial-style houses, praying the rosary, and even attending universities before the others did.

The only people who superseded them were the Ijaws and Efik/Ibibio. You listen too much to the message of Reno Omokri. grin
Up till today, there are places in the north that still go about unclothed.

The North African Tuaregs conquered Northern Nigeria before the Britons did. And what they did in Northern Nigeria was that they stripped them of their culture (religion was part of their culture) and gave them a new religion, which they now claim to be their culture. And that was in the early 1800s. You think when the North Africans conquered them, they taught them how to build skyscrapers? grin grin grin The Tauregs only taught them (enforced on them) the clothing of the desert people (and their religion) thereof.



And just so that you get it right: the Briton saw ALL who accepted the Christian faith as equals. That was a part you never knew. The church never discriminated between bound or free, rich or poor, and the Britons were under the Anglican church. You thought the same way Adamu was treated is the same Chukwudi was? grin grin
My focus is never on "them" as you submitted but rather a response to your claim about "them," which was being an equal to the Colonists are you claimed on their behalf with the colonists.

And since you want to let us focus on them why not answer my poser as to where they learn the Caste System from or was that also inherited from their equals from Europe since they were good in the usage of the Rosary and even attended University situated at village squares before anyone else does?

I don't need Reno or anyone else to tell me the Culture my forebears lived and no, I don't listen to him because he is an Ethnic jingoist and most of them just don't cut it with me.

So, pray tell me those places that are still going about unclothed in the North. I know of the Koma people in the northeast. Perhaps you research discovered another?

Lol

The Tuaregs conquered the Hausas in the 1800s. Really, really? I thought you guys said it was the Fulanis from Futa Jalon, the homestead of Uthaman Dan Fodio? In any case, the influence of the Mandikans from the Empires of the Mali Kingdom is the prevailing identity (largely) in those spaces. They lived in Cities, had school (outside what the Europeans brought to those you referred to as "them"wink. I was once privileged to visit Kano Old City (the walled one popularly referred to as Cikin Geri and also Sokoto). You need to see their architecture. So distinct the blind can see it. So, Sir, it was not clothing of the desert people that were imposed on them. Those buildings still stand to date.

And no, sir, the British didn't see ALL that accepted Christianity as equals and I will take that as a joke from you and it is very funny.

These "them" of ours aren't they largely Catholic and not Anglican? That was a joke too I assume?

When the Europeans came to this shore, the Hausa/Fulani were fully kitted, same for the Yorubas and "them"? They tied wrappers while going Topless!
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by forgiveness: 1:40pm On Oct 23, 2025
Christistruth03:
Actually Eko are the Lagos Island Awori 90%
the rest were Saro and Aguda enslaved returnees
I didn't say less.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Ttalk: 1:41pm On Oct 23, 2025
GeneralOuki:
Nonsense. The British moved in the savannah just as well as they did in the hinterland if the east, especially in the coastal areas where they berthed and colonised earlier than most places, e.g Opobo kingdom and Lagos. The British directly and indirectly operated the Yoruba kingdom and Hausa/Fulani kingdoms after they conquered them . They deposed Ọbá kosoko and installed their stooge Akitoye as a way to gain total control of Lagos.
The Brits never engaged in slavery in Nigeria, they abolished it, and they used the accusations of slavery to depose the monarchies that didn't kowtow to them.

And those Hausas and Nupe you see on that census were mostly slaves owned by Yoruba chiefs, very few of them were free people.
I think it is effortless trying to correct people that chose to be ignorant.

Look at this one saying British never engage in slave trade in Nigeria?

I think this is the height of delusion.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Gerhards: 1:41pm On Oct 23, 2025
Spandau:
If Ibos think they can "own" Lagos, then they're planning suicide.
What's indigenous name of Lagos before it was changed to Lagos and why Ibadan was not rename to Lisbon? some part of Lagos also belong to Ewes grin grin
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by GeneralOuki: 1:42pm On Oct 23, 2025
FreeStuffsNG:
I am enlightening you to the deliberate intention of my forebears to build a sustainable homeland based on our Yoruba industry and hospitality to strangers and you are trying to make it look like it's a common thing. Smh.

Hell No! It's not common and has never been common. Some people cannibalize on strangers. Hosting strangers is a matter of life and death in your region then and most of those places you mentioned.
Some of them practice osu that perpetually segregate against some of their fellow villagers while most parts of your region practice feisty human cannibalism.
Check out the map of cannibalism in Nigeria as at that time.
How about now? You people are now into the business of mining skulls in this very day. Everyday 2-3 people lose their skulls in your place, so in reality while the south east have remodeled and modernised, the South west seems to be regressing in terms of hospitality.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Lukuluku69(m): 1:43pm On Oct 23, 2025
GeneralOuki:
Nonsense. The British moved in the savannah just as well as they did in the hinterland if the east, especially in the coastal areas where they berthed and colonised earlier than most places, e.g Opobo kingdom and Lagos. The British directly and indirectly operated the Yoruba kingdom and Hausa/Fulani kingdoms after they conquered them . They deposed Ọbá kosoko and installed their stooge Akitoye as a way to gain total control of Lagos.
[i]The Brits never engaged in slavery in Nigeria, they abolished it, and they used the accusations of slavery to depose the monarchies that didn't kowtow to them[/i][i][/i].

And those Hausas and Nupe you see on that census were mostly slaves owned by Yoruba chiefs, very few of them were free people.
The British never engaged in Slavery in Nigeria you said? Please find time and go to Badagry Slave Market and Heritage Centre and gi learn some more.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Ttalk: 1:44pm On Oct 23, 2025
GeneralOuki:
You don't even know the meaning of Lagos. Lagos was named by the Europeans, Portuguese to be precise and it means "Lakes". Eko on the other hand is a Benin word. Long before the arrival of the British, the Oba of Benin was the one who chose the oba of Lagos. Do you know why it is like that?
I won't engage half baked. It is not by force to dabble into subject you know nothing about.

People that entered ,Lagos 2019 are now telling us the story of Lagos
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by GeneralOuki: 1:44pm On Oct 23, 2025
tctrills:
Lol, I have traveled the world, there is nothing new with strangers living in your land. It's happening all over the world, and again some yorubas practice tribalism. They segregate against Igbos. They wouldnt even rent to an Igbo
I have lived in Jos, Abuja, and in other counties. I can tell you that Yorubas are not the top 50 kindest hosts. Don't get me wrong, the yorubas are ok, but nothing exceptional.
We, your visitors, are in the best position to tell you, especially those of us who have lived all over the country and the world. I have visited Pakistan, for example, and was fed and housed for free by people who never knew me. That one can't happen in Abeokuta.
Abeokuta? Where them go mine your skull
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by tctrills: 1:44pm On Oct 23, 2025
Spandau:
If Ibos think they can "own" Lagos, then they're planning suicide.
Lol, no problem, whatever makes you sleep at night
. That ship has long sailed. It's not a matter of if but when. Peace
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Lukuluku69(m): 1:45pm On Oct 23, 2025
Ttalk:
I think it is effortless trying to correct people that chose to be ignorant.

Look at this one saying British never engage in slave trade in Nigeria?

I think this is the height of delusion.
Baba, you saw that too?

He opened mouth and say the British never engaged in Slave Trade Nigeria?

Lol
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by tctrills: 1:45pm On Oct 23, 2025
GeneralOuki:
Abeokuta? Where them go mine your skull
Don't mind them. Funny people.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Gerhards: 1:45pm On Oct 23, 2025
Spandau:
Therefore, leave Lagos the hell alone. It belongs to the SW.
Lagos does not belong to the people of Osun, Ilorin, Kwara, Ondo, Ekiti and Oyo etc, be proud of your ancestry and leave Lagos alone
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