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Every other day you find Protestants with zero knowledge of the Catholic Church, its doctrines and theology, deriding her and forming opinion about her practices.

The most recent of them just made front page listing 10 things the Catholic Church does that Apostles didn’t.

Now, this is a response to that piece and I’m going to try and respond to each point raised one after another.

1) The Apostles didn’t pray Rosary to Mary.

Answer:
Mary lived with the Apostles, so, why did they need to pray to her when she was living and communing with them? Maybe the Protestants should educate us where Mary was ever disrespected by the Apostles or called an envelope like their theology teaches.

The Place of Mary in the lives of Christians was cemented in Luke 1:26-38, when Angel Gabriel appeared to her and said, “Hail Mary, full of grace, the lord is with you. Blessed are you amongst women and blessed is the fruit of your womb - Jesus.”

So, if there was anybody who first prayed to and honoured Mary, it was Angel Gabriel. Who are mere mortals and sinners to think they know better than God?

Let me give you a local but very relatable example.

Till this day, Politicians in Nigeria flock in the home of the Yaradua Matriarch, the woman who gave birth to a President and Vice President. Why? Now, remember that this is woman who is barely aware of her surrounding nor does she have control of her cognitive faculties. But politicians and even ordinary Nigerians still pay homage to her.

But somehow, Protestants want us to treat the mother of the messiah as a mere envelope that God merely used to fulfill His purpose and then discarded.

Does that make sense to you?

2) The Apostles didn’t pray to the dead.

Answer:
I believe that by praying to the dead they have the Catholics’ reverence for saints in mind.

Now I have a question. Are we, Christians of today, in same pedestal with the Apostles who suffered persecution with Jesus Christ and even suffered martyrdom in some cases in their bid to propagate the gospel that we now know today?

The Catholic Church reverence these people, Peter, Paul, Mathew, James, John, etc, for the role they played in enduring the persecution of early days of Christianity to preserve the gospel. It’s similar to same way we Nigerians honour Sir Herbert Macaulay, Nnamdi Azikiwe, Obafemi Awolowo and Ahmadu Bello for roles they played in ensuring we gained independence from the British. Now, can anyone tell me what is wrong with such honour?

3) The Apostles didn’t do satanic processions.

Answer:
What is satanic in procession?

Again, how did the Wall of Jericho fall? Joshua got the Israelites to “process” around the wall of the city until he blew the trumpet and the wall came down.

Now, if Joshua and the Israelites processed, what is satanic about procession?

4). The Apostles didn’t go to Mass.

Answer:
This is the most laughable of all the claims because at the Last Supper, Jesus Christ broke bread and blessed wine and gave it to His disciples with strict command, “Do this in remembrance of me.” (1 Cor 11:23-26)

Again, the Acts of the Apostle is replete with the Apostles coming together to break bread and share communion which was where Stephen was appointed the first ever Deacon to assist with coordination of the event. (Acts 6:1-15)

This coming together of the Apostles and disciples is what the Catholic Church has sustained till today in the Mass, and some people dare condemn it?

5). The Apostles didn’t wear Scapular

Answer:
Says someone who is most probably hanging the image of his Daddy GO in both his car and his home.

When would the traducers of the Catholic understand that these iconoclasms are intended to preserve the images of the Jesus, Mary and the Apostles in the minds of Christians?

And yes, if you believe that the image of your Daddy GO can scare away the devil and keep bad energies away, we also believe that the images of Jesus and Mary (Scapular), the origin of our faith, can do even much more in scaring the devil and keep bad energies away.

6). The Apostles didn’t do infant baptism.

Answer:
What is wrong with infant baptism?

“Catch them young” and “train up a child in a way he should go and when he grows up he will not depart” are both commands of the Bible. So, who is hurt by the infant being baptized and set on the path of redemption of an early age?

7). The Apostles didn’t believe in Purgatory.

Answer:
If our God is a just God as the Bible says (Deut 32:4), then tell me if He would send a dead mother who once stole bread from a supermarket to feed her hungry children to same place he would send dead murderers, cultists and rapists?

If your answer is yes, then tell me where is God’s justness?

And if your answer is no, then where would the woman who stole bread because of her hungry children atone for her misdeed since no soul with stain can enter heaven?

Your sincere answers to the question above will give you the answer to the doctrine of Purgatory.

8]. The Apostles didn’t use Holy Water.

Answer:
2 Kings 5:10, and Elisha asked Namaan to go and dip himself 7 times in the Jordan River and when Namaan did, he was completely healed.

Now, till this day, most of the Protestants deriding the Catholic still go to the river to do their baptism. Why?

Now, the Catholic Church has instead said, that instead of asking people to go and jump in Lagos lagoons like Namaan did, the water can be brought closer to home in small containers and when prayed over can still possess the magical powers that the Jordan River performed on Namaan.

An aside: If you don’t already know, take your time to find out about the magical powers of salt and water. You will be marveled.

9). The Apostles didn’t claim Peter a Pope

Answer:
The Apostles didn’t have to call Peter by the name “Pope” but they accepted his leadership as ordained by Jesus Christ in Mathew 16:16 when He said to Peter, “You are Peter and upon this Rock I will build my church and gate of hades shall never prevail.” If that wasn’t Christ installing Peter as the first Pope, then what was it?

Again, throughout the Acts of the Apostles, the rest of the Apostles queued behind Peter in acceptance of his leadership. For example, on the day of Pentecost, Peter, though unlettered, was the one who addressed the crowd when they came out.

So, what do Protestants have issues with? With the nomenclature “Pope” or that Peter was not the leader of the Apostles?

10) The Apostles didn’t bow to idols.

Answer:
Name the idols that Catholics bow to.

In conclusion, the Catholic Church and Catholics go about their faith without prying into the way of life of other denominations. Can you people kindly let us be and educate yourself and know that every doctrine of the Catholic Church has its root in either the Bible or Apostolic Tradition passed down through the Apostles through the generations.

Penguin is a bird of reason 🦅 .

Jesusjnr2020

You have just crushed him totally, he won't have any reply to give.

Good work you did there.

The protestants wear apron thinking that it'll protect them from evil charms or bullets while their daddy's G. O's go about with police and security guards to guard them but you won't see the catholic putting eyes on their matter.

Nonsense and Tinubu.

Softmirror:
The funeral rites when a Pope dies. Where is it enshrined in the Bible or the teachings of the apostles?! You know, a Roman Catholic Pope Died recently.

The way your village people bury someone that dies in your village, which book prescribed that they should be doing the burial that way and not incinerate the corpse and pack the ashes like Indians?

Penguin2:
The way your village people bury someone that dies in your village, which book prescribed that they should be doing the burial that way and not incinerate the corpse and pack the ashes like Indians?

In a nut shell, that is a Roman Pagan tradition. Case closed.

Jesus is the only intercessor we have.

Jesus is the way. Not Mary is the way.

These are things obvious in the bible.

Almost all your points can't be backed with a bible verse. You are using emotions to prove your point, which is very wrong.

Penguin2:
Every other day you find Protestants with zero knowledge of the Catholic Church, its doctrines and theology, deriding her and forming opinion about her practices.

The most recent of them just made front page listing 10 things the Catholic Church does that Apostles didn’t.

Now, this is a response to that piece and I’m going to try and respond to each point raised one after another.

1) The Apostles didn’t pray Rosary to Mary.

Answer:
Mary lived with the Apostles, so, why did they need to pray to her when she was living and communing with them? Maybe the Protestants should educate us where Mary was ever disrespected by the Apostles or called an envelope like their theology teaches.

The Place of Mary in the lives of Christians was cemented in Luke 1:26-38, when Angel Gabriel appeared to her and said, “Hail Mary, full of grace, the lord is with you. Blessed are you amongst women and blessed is the fruit of your womb - Jesus.”

So, if there was anybody who first prayed to and honoured Mary, it was Angel Gabriel. Who are mere mortals and sinners to think they know better than God?

Let me give you a local but very relatable example.

Till this day, Politicians in Nigeria flock in the home of the Yaradua Matriarch, the woman who gave birth to a President and Vice President. Why? Now, remember that this is woman who is barely aware of her surrounding nor does she have control of her cognitive faculties. But politicians and even ordinary Nigerians still pay homage to her.

But somehow, Protestants want us to treat the mother of the messiah as a mere envelope that God merely used to fulfill His purpose and then discarded.

Does that make sense to you?

2) The Apostles didn’t pray to the dead.

Answer:
I believe that by praying to the dead they have the Catholics’ reverence for saints in mind.

Now I have a question. Are we, Christians of today, in same pedestal with the Apostles who suffered persecution with Jesus Christ and even suffered martyrdom in some cases in their bid to propagate the gospel that we now know today?

The Catholic Church reverence these people, Peter, Paul, Mathew, James, John, etc, for the role they played in enduring the persecution of early days of Christianity to preserve the gospel. It’s similar to same way we Nigerians honour Sir Herbert Macaulay, Nnamdi Azikiwe, Obafemi Awolowo and Ahmadu Bello for roles they played in ensuring we gained independence from the British. Now, can anyone tell me what is wrong with such honour?

3) The Apostles didn’t do satanic processions.

Answer:
What is satanic in procession?

Again, how did the Wall of Jericho fall? Joshua got the Israelites to “process” around the wall of the city until he blew the trumpet and the wall came down.

Now, if Joshua and the Israelites processed, what is satanic about procession?

4). The Apostles didn’t go to Mass.

Answer:
This is the most laughable of all the claims because at the Last Supper, Jesus Christ broke bread and blessed wine and gave it to His disciples with strict command, “Do this in remembrance of me.” (1 Cor 11:23-26)

Again, the Acts of the Apostle is replete with the Apostles coming together to break bread and share communion which was where Stephen was appointed the first ever Deacon to assist with coordination of the event. (Acts 6:1-15)

This coming together of the Apostles and disciples is what the Catholic Church has sustained till today in the Mass, and some people dare condemn it?

5). The Apostles didn’t wear Scapular

Answer:
Says someone who is most probably hanging the image of his Daddy GO in both his car and his home.

When would the traducers of the Catholic understand that these iconoclasms are intended to preserve the images of the Jesus, Mary and the Apostles in the minds of Christians?

And yes, if you believe that the image of your Daddy GO can scare away the devil and keep bad energies away, we also believe that the images of Jesus and Mary (Scapular), the origin of our faith, can do even much more in scaring the devil and keep bad energies away.

6). The Apostles didn’t do infant baptism.

Answer:
What is wrong with infant baptism?

“Catch them young” and “train up a child in a way he should go and when he grows up he will not depart” are both commands of the Bible. So, who is hurt by the infant being baptized and set on the path of redemption of an early age?

7). The Apostles didn’t believe in Purgatory.

Answer:
If our God is a just God as the Bible says (Deut 32:4), then tell me if He would send a dead mother who once stole bread from a supermarket to feed her hungry children to same place he would send dead murderers, cultists and rapists?

If your answer is yes, then tell me where is God’s justness?

And if your answer is no, then where would the woman who stole bread because of her hungry children atone for her misdeed since no soul with stain can enter heaven?

Your sincere answers to the question above will give you the answer to the doctrine of Purgatory.

8]. The Apostles didn’t use Holy Water.

Answer:
2 Kings 5:10, and Elisha asked Namaan to go and dip himself 7 times in the Jordan River and when Namaan did, he was completely healed.

Now, till this day, most of the Protestants deriding the Catholic still go to the river to do their baptism. Why?

Now, the Catholic Church has instead said, that instead of asking people to go and jump in Lagos lagoons like Namaan did, the water can be brought closer to home in small containers and when prayed over can still possess the magical powers that the Jordan River performed on Namaan.

An aside: If you don’t already know, take your time to find out about the magical powers of salt and water. You will be marveled.

9). The Apostles didn’t claim Peter a Pope

Answer:
The Apostles didn’t have to call Peter by the name “Pope” but they accepted his leadership as ordained by Jesus Christ in Mathew 16:16 when He said to Peter, “You are Peter and upon this Rock I will build my church and gate of hades shall never prevail.” If that wasn’t Christ installing Peter as the first Pope, then what was it?

Again, throughout the Acts of the Apostles, the rest of the Apostles queued behind Peter in acceptance of his leadership. For example, on the day of Pentecost, Peter, though unlettered, was the one who addressed the crowd when they came out.

So, what do Protestants have issues with? With the nomenclature “Pope” or that Peter was not the leader of the Apostles?

10) The Apostles didn’t bow to idols.

Answer:
Name the idols that Catholics bow to.

In conclusion, the Catholic Church and Catholics go about their faith without prying into the way of life of other denominations. Can you people kindly let us be and educate yourself and know that every doctrine of the Catholic Church has its root in either the Bible or Apostolic Tradition passed down through the Apostles through the generations.

Penguin is a bird of reason 🦅 .

Jesusjnr2020

Why not ask questions above the points you made above instead of attacking Catholic Church ?
The same Catholic Church christianity emanated from if you are good with history of Christianity and how other churches came to existence..

Nonsense thread !!

Pls where is Helinues?

Has he finally gotten a JOB?

Or he is struggling to look for Accommodation after finally being Asked by his Parents to leave their house?

Until Jesus takes the center stage in your life every other things become religious activity

Jesus said no one goes to the father except through me...

Softmirror:
In a nut shell, that is a Roman Pagan tradition. Case closed.

You don’t mean it.

Tell me how your church buries her pastors and where it is in the Bible.

Ezeama400:
Why not ask questions above the points you made above instead of attacking Catholic Church ?
The same Catholic Church christianity emanated from if you are good with history of Christianity and how other churches came to existence..

Nonsense thread !!

Are you sure you read this thread sir?

Alfred200825

jmoore:
Jesus is the only intercessor we have.

Jesus is the way. Not Mary is the way.

These are things obvious in the bible.

Almost all your points can't be backed with a bible verse. You are using emotions to prove your point, which is very wrong.

I gave biblical citation for almost all my points.

Why don’t you rather tell me which one is wrong instead.

I read the initial thread which made the front page and I could only laugh at some ignorant and misleading comments there. Most especially the wrong notions that Catholics worship Holy Mary. Actually they don't. And I believe every follower of Christ should see Mary as our holy mother who always intercedes for us.

And if there is any church today that still do things similar to the early church of the apostles, Catholic is that church.

Don't waste your time replying that overzealousss somebody. What those Protestants fail to know or acknowledge is that, Catholic is the custodian of Christinadom, a lot of church secret is in their hands, which is for a reason.
They should go to the Vatican City and study theology and not just waking up one day and saying God have called abi na them de call God.
The guy didn't tell us that apostles don't transfer church ownership to their Wives and children like we have currently with the GOs

Penguin2:
You don’t mean it.

Tell me how your church buries her pastors and where it is in the Bible.

I was expecting you to give me a biblical reference to the funeral rites of Roman Catholic Popes. At least, we can make reference to Jesus in the Bible, even Lazarus is an example.

richiemcgold:
I And I believe every follower of Christ should see Mary as our holy mother who always intercedes for us.

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Y'all are just equating carnal and spiritual things ....because there is God the father doesn't mean there must be a mother ......y'all are just dangerously weird...

to say Mary is the mother of all believers is preposterous..and that's me putting it lightly.....I don't know why y'all desperately need this doctrine ...but it's fvcking weird...and it's tantamount to diverting God's glory and honor who made the miracle birth happen in the first place

Mary that while she was alive wanted Jesus to remain as just her son, always pull him away from his preaching, and deliverance destiny to come home with family....

At some point Jesus has to make it clear to her when she was looking for him again as usual to drag him home in luke 8v21.... "that those who do the will of my father are my mother, brothers, and sisters" .....


When Jesus handed her over to the disciple at the Golgotha ..its was to comfort her for the loss of him .... because He knew it won't be easy for her....and Scripture records that she started living with that discipline from that day.....how y'all turned her to mother of all is absurd

advanceDNA:
Y'all are just equating carnal and spiritual things ....because there is God the father doesn't mean there must be a mother ......y'all are just dangerously weird...

to say Mary is the mother of all believers is preposterous..and that's me putting it lightly.....I don't know why y'all desperately need this doctrine ...but it's fvcking weird...and it's tantamount to diverting God's glory and honor who made the miracle birth happen in the first place

Mary that while she was alive wanted Jesus to remain as just her son, always pull him away from his preaching, and deliverance destiny to come home with family....

At some point Jesus has to make it clear to her when she was looking for him again as usual to drag him home in luke 8v21.... "that those who do the will of my father are my mother, brothers, and sisters" .....


When Jesus handed her over to the disciple at the Golgotha ..its was to comfort her for the loss of him .... because He knew it won't be easy for her....and Scripture records that she started living with that discipline from that day.....how y'all turned her to mother of all is absurd

She was chosen to birth the Lord.
Confirmed by Elizabeth.
For Catholics, I believe that's significant and I respect it..

She was even appeared to by Angel Gabriel.
Besides overall, females are rarely mentioned in the Bible especially New Testament.
Mary is and significant enough to serve as role models for our young girls and women at the very least. Hence the honor which I respect as well.

chimex38:
She was chosen to birth the Lord.
Confirmed by Elizabeth.
For Catholics, I believe that's significant and I respect it..

She was even appeared to by Angel Gabriel.
Besides overall, females are rarely mentioned in the Bible especially New Testament.
Mary is and significant enough to serve as role models for our young girls and women at the very least. Hence the honor which I respect as well.

angels appeared to a bunch of pple in the Bible...even the mother of Samson

and there are bunch of women mentioned from, Esther who had a whole book out of 66, to Ruth, to Deborah the Judge, etc

....like seriously all her mentions in scripture was to actually pointing to the Lord Jesus...

See.....Wateva make y'all Catholic sleep well at night is totally up to you...but here is no scriptural or spiritual revelational basis for this....its basis is purely carnal creating a mother figure because there is father figure...

Its so bad that y'all even make statues you go kneel to for prayers...sigh

In all of these, the absence of the Bible being used isn't even talked about.

jmoore:
These are things obvious in the bible.
Almost all your points can't be backed with a bible verse.

Hope you know the Bible differs for both Catholic and protestants.

Softmirror:
I was expecting you to give me a biblical reference to the funeral rites of Roman Catholic Popes. At least, we can make reference to Jesus in the Bible, even Lazarus is an example.

How is the Pope buried differently from the way Christ was buried?

Or you just have issues with the fact that Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops, Priests and world leaders attend the funeral?

advanceDNA:
angels appeared to a bunch of pple in the Bible...even the mother of Samson

and there are bunch of women mentioned from, Esther who had a whole book out of 66, to Ruth, to Deborah the Judge, etc

....like seriously all her mentions in scripture was to actually pointing to the Lord Jesus...

See.....Wateva make y'all Catholic sleep well at night is totally up to you...but here is no scriptural or spiritual revelational basis for this....its basis is purely carnal creating a mother figure because there is father figure...

Its so bad that y'all even make statues you go kneel to for prayers...sigh

Was Particular on new Testament.

Mary's a role model for Girls, Ladies and women.
Ruth and Naomi as well.

It's significant that Elizabeth called her "Blessed amongst women"..
I respect Catholics for bringing someone out young ladies can model..

It is wrong for anyone to kneel to a statue as an act of worship. But they claim its honor and just as the Yorubas prostrate in honor worship and respect of fathers and elders.

I understand the tendency to "worship". The wordings of their prayers suggest otherwise; an intersession. If one feels unworthy(sinful) to communicate to God directly(low faith).
Helps to build the Faith of the doubtful.
Some of us meet our Pastors when in distress or when we feel our faith isn't strong enough to intercede for us and pray to God on our behalf..


I don't have a problem if others bring out Esther, Naomi and Ruth as well as role models for girls. They are less talked about in Bible schools.
But Catholics talks about Mary a lot and it connects to young girls and women.

Jesus would always look like a father figure to girls about 9-15yrs old reading the Bible.
They may not be able to relate with male gender stories and applying it to their female roles. and will look to righteous females who depict womanhood they can model after.

It is worthy of note that praying through Mary as an intersession isn't compulsory for Catholics. It's a matter of choice. You will notice it's mostly the female folks.
Most still pray directly to Jesus or God as the Spirit leads.

It seems like some pals are still stuck in the dark ages when it comes to understanding the Catholic Church's practices. Newsflash: just because something isn't explicitly mentioned in the Bible doesn't mean it's not rooted in tradition or apostolic teachings. And by the way, if you're going to diss the Catholic Church, at least have the decency to educate yourself on its history and doctrine.

It seems like some people are still stuck in the dark ages when it comes to understanding the Catholic Church's practices. Newsflash: just because something isn't explicitly mentioned in the Bible doesn't mean it's not rooted in tradition or apostolic teachings. And by the way, if you're going to diss the Catholic Church, at least have the decency to educate yourself on its history and doctrine.

It seems like some my people are still stuck in the dark ages when it comes to understanding the Catholic Church's practices. Newsflash: just because something isn't explicitly mentioned in the Bible doesn't mean it's not rooted in tradition or apostolic teachings. And by the way, if you're going to diss the Catholic Church, at least have the decency to educate yourself on its history and doctrine.

It seems like some pals are still stuck in the dark ages when it comes to understanding the Catholic Church's practices. Newsflash: just because something isn't explicitly mentioned in the Bible doesn't mean it's not rooted in tradition or apostolic teachings. And by the way, if you're going to diss the Catholic Church, at least have the decency to educate yourself on its history and doctrine.

Penguin2:
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1) The Apostles didn’t pray Rosary to Mary.

Answer:
Mary lived with the Apostles, so, why did they need to pray to her when she was living and communing with them?

Maybe the Protestants should educate us where Mary was ever disrespected by the Apostles or called an envelope like their theology teaches.

It is not hail Mary full of grace that is offence but the "Hail, holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, hail our life, our sweetness, and our hope" and the rest.

The angel did not even greet her like this.

But this declaration is definitely excessively too much and it is definitely the kind fitting for a demigod. And it is exactly the same one the Romans gave to their gods.

And the Romans are known for paganism and for pursuing gods to acquire them.

So, here we see that they have chosen Mary and made her a god just like June aka Juno

So the Romans have made you people to worship Mary as a god. (Idolatry)

You don't even have this kind of worship for the disciples upon whom and through whom Jesus reestablished His Rule.

techWriter001:
at least have the decency to educate yourself on its history and doctrine.

We have.

Its a history and doctrine filled with Idolatry and blasphemy.

Dtruthspeaker:
It is not hail Mary full of grace that is offence but the "Hail, holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, hail our life, our sweetness, and our hope" and the rest.

The angel did not even greet her like this.

But this declaration is definitely excessively too much and it is definitely the kind fitting for a demigod. And it is exactly the same one the Romans gave to their gods.

And the Romans are known for paganism and for pursuing gods to acquire them.

So, here we see that they have chosen Mary and made her a god just like June aka Juno

So the Romans have made you people to worship Mary as a god. (Idolatry)

You don't even have this kind of worship for the disciples upon whom and through whom Jesus reestablished His Rule.

No Catholic prays the Hail Mary in the way you described it.

And tell me what’s wrong in ‘honouring’(not worshiping) the woman who bore the messiah?

If God chose her out of all possible virgins He could have chosen from, do you not think she’s special and have a special place?

Penguin2:
No Catholic prays the Hail Mary in the way you described it.

You think people do not see nor know about the 100 chants of hall Mary's you recite just like ifa priests do during Easter as you people chant through the 4 sets of supposed mysteries which your priests say you should do every day and we all know Catholics who chant them from time to time? Please, man, this is not even the issue.

Penguin2:
And tell me what’s wrong in ‘honouring’(not worshiping) the woman who bore the messiah?

If God chose her out of all possible virgins He could have chosen from, do you not think she’s special and have a special place?

No need to repeat yourself for I just pointed out that your "Hail, holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, hail our life, our sweetness, and our hope" and the rest, is proof of worship.

The angel did not even greet her like this meanwhile it is exactly the same one the Romans gave to their gods.

So, here we see that they have chosen Mary and made her a god just like June aka Juno and the they have made you people to worship Mary as a god just like they did to Juno.

You don't even have this kind of worship for the disciples, so clearly you people are guilty of worshipping Mary and turning her into a demigod

Dtruthspeaker:
You think people do not see nor know about the 100 chants of hall Mary's you recite just like ifa priests do during Easter as you people chant through the 4 sets of supposed mysteries which your priests say you should do every day and we all know Catholics who chant them from time to time? Please, man, this is not even the issue.



No need to repeat yourself for I just pointed out that your "Hail, holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, hail our life, our sweetness, and our hope" and the rest, is proof of worship.

The angel did not even greet her like this meanwhile it is exactly the same one the Romans gave to their gods.

So, here we see that they have chosen Mary and made her a god just like June aka Juno and the they have made you people to worship Mary as a god just like they did to Juno.

You don't even have this kind of worship for the disciples, so clearly you people are guilty of worshipping Mary and turning her into a demigod

Can you tell us how Angel Gabriel greeted Mary as recorded in Luke 1:26-28?

Penguin2:
Can you tell us how Angel Gabriel greeted Mary as recorded in Luke 1:26-28?

Do you not know that hail is the greeting hello or hail oo as Nigerians would say?

And the follow up sentence of full of grace, is it not exactly what we say in "better woman wey God love and God dey with".

Is this not the same greeting we greet people who are well behaved?

No where did the angel call her holy (where even Jesus Said no one is holy, yet you people have holified Mary) or queen or a person who gives life and sweetness and hope.

"Hail holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, hail our life, our sweetness, and our hope"

The angels salutation is very clear and understandable and within normal limits as we do the same to people who are better than us that is the people who we call goody goody and God fearing people. But none of these were worshipped.