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ChiefS:
Let me try to offer my opinion as a stakeholder in both public and private universities. I studied in a Public University. One of my children is in a public university and the other in a private university. Some of my postgraduate students also graduated from private universities.

Each university whether private or public has its advantages and disadvantages. Also, there are different categories of each University whether public or private. A lot depends on the student. For first generation federal universities, admission is really competitive, and they get the top students for competitive courses, so this affects their quality even for the unfortunate ones that graduate with a 2.2 despite their brilliance. Top private universities are now attracting brilliant students especially for the ones that their parents can afford it and don't whant them to suffer from the delays of ASUU strike and other challenges that students of public universities face.

The top public universities still have very experienced lecturers that graduated from top schools both within and outside the country. While we still have dedicated ones, some are not so dedicated. Some use only 2 or 3 weeks to teach an entire course that should last for 14 weeks and tailor their lectures to exam questions. Other malpractices like bribery and sex for grades are now common. However, the level of staff supervision is higher in private universities compared to public universities. It is very difficult to sack a staff in public universities as several panels need to be setup and presenting the reports to Senate and Council. The staff can still take the university to court and in some cases staff that were sacked later won their cases in court. But in a private university, it is easy to sack a lecturer that misbehaves or refuses to do his job. So top lecturers in public universities do not want to work in Private Universities where they will be micromanaged. They rather prefer to be Adjunct lecturers to private universities.


Public universities still have the biggest infrastructure due to support from Government, TETFUND, NITDA, NNPC, CBN, Grants from foreign countries particularly the United States, the corporate world and their Alumni. It's difficult for private universities to get that kind of financial support. Although maintenance of these facilities has become a big issue. Many students pass through Federal Universities without taking advantage of some of these facilities.

Many of the public universities are overpopulated. Some Federal Universities have up to 50,000 students. The staff: students' ratio is very low. As an undergraduate many years ago, we were 120 in class, and we did General Courses in the Faculty of Engineering where one lecturer taught over 700 students without a public address system. Our grades suffered seriously as only those seated in front could hear the lecturers and understood the courses. It is a serious disadvantage that affects students in many public universities. Whereas, in private universities the staff students' ratio is satisfactory as the class sizes are not too much. In recent times, there has been increase in the population of students in some private universities, but they have a good sound system and a better management of student population.


Many hostels in public universities are in dilapidated shapes with toilets being an eye sore. I often calculated going to toilet immediately the cleaners finished washing the toilets. But the hostels are better managed in private universities.

Also, students who are unable to manage their newfound freedom in public universities, engage in delinquent activities such as prostitution, abortions, drugs, Yahoo Yahoo, and many heart breaks due to the excessive freedom which they enjoy. Some girls practically live with their boy friends all through their undergraduate years who eventually ditches them after graduation. Whereas, in private universities, there are some forms of regulation. These misdemeanors still happen in private universities, but it is not as rampant as public universities.

In terms of products, I have taught both private and public university students at postgraduate level. A lot depends on the individual. Some private university graduates did amazingly well equally as some public university graduates. Only very few of the private university graduates did poorly. While some public university graduates also did poorly. That is why I said a lot depends on the student. For technology courses, the limitations in terms of practical exposure were common to both groups but more with the public universities. The internet is a leveler today; students should take advantage of the resources available on the internet to improve themselves.

This is a fair assessment, people should read it thoroughly 💯

Frezhkid10:
Wrong..an HR in a multinational once said he would rather cancel all his appointment to interview a covenant first or second class graduate than any other school..

I can guess the multinational.

The multinational is a company that has an earring wearing, dread locked hair guy, in a sagged trouser, in lekki, who talks a lot about “gift cards,” as the “founder.”

🤣🤣🤣

samuelson06:
University ranking data can settle this argument. Go check where each of these unis stand.

Ranking based on what?

Based on perception index?

Or based on research and quality of academics?

If it is based on the first, which many ranking use, then all private universities will soon be ranked higher than all public universities. Nigeria knows how to bad talk their own and sweet talk what they don’t have.

If it is based on academics or research, then I will ask you to pick a covenant university HoD at random, and tell me where his main or primary jobs is. 🤣🤣🤣

But if you want to know about the quality of a university, pick any grant, scholarship, fellowship, etc where these students get to compete without bias. Maybe we can start with the Chevening scholarship for Masters or PhD, or Erasmus Mundus, or Marie Curie Research Fellowship, etc where these guys get to compete based on brains. Check the list of the awardees based on their Alma Mater. If you find even one private university, come back and tell me. 🤣🤣🤣

Agugbadin:
Don't be delusional, public and private universities graduates should be given equal opportunity to show their capacity and IQ.Your post has only displayed low IQ and lack of understanding. Abroad is not the name of the school you attended in Nigeria that they look at it is your capacity, work and contribution to knowledge. The only way to compare universities in Nigeria is to call for innovations, academic works,intellectual contribution to knowledge, patents from all the schools.

I think you need help.

If you think the name of the school you attended don’t count, take Covenant University first class and compare it with a diploma from Oxford University.

PepeXKermit:
You are actually the joke here. For you to mention that last paragraph it means you dont know what you are saying. For example, nobody abroad actually cares about what school you went as a nigerian in nigeria because they all have a collective mindset of what the education system is in nigeria. They know its pure trash. There is no IVY type leauge school in nigeria unlike Egypt and South Africa, what they focus on is if your school is accredited and if you had a good grade. If you like think say ur 2,2 for UI na big deal over a 2.1 in covenant for admission slot.

In what terms is a federal university better? Quality of education? You have 300 people attending a class in federal compared to 30 -50 people in a class in private? Who learns better in such conditions? Airconditioned well ventilated classes in private compared to public, law and order in private compared to public, your hostel is 2 - 3 max in an AC room and living room with personal bathroom and kitchen as compared to a dilapitated hostel where toilet is public and parts of the hostel is decaying? Tell me who amoongst the two has the best quality of education? Lets stop deceiving ourselves and tell ourselves the truth when we have to.

One thing i noticed is that many people because they cannot afford private education, they put down others going there, saying they dont get the best of both worlds and are not going to be prepared for the real world. Oga, education no be violence. Being outside the comfort zone of your house without the guidiance of your parent, is preparation enough for the real world... its not supposed to be fight, there are some lifestyles you dont need to get exposed to as a human being . Suffering is not a virtue. Whatever you think you get in education in a public school both in the classroom and out of the classroom, private university students get better in the classroom and a different form to yours outside the classroom, this is why we have something called class in the society, and you wont psyop people to believe that as a public school student, you are better off with your standard of public education and more prepared for the world. Its a big lie

The painful part in your write up is that you think that I think like you.

So somehow, in your mind, you think that orange colored, air conditioned rooms make people learn better. You obviously don’t know that the buildings in Oxford and Cambridge are older than the cave where you c o o k e d your mindset.

How you brought me down to the low by thinking k am also thinking like y o u that vawulene is th quality of a public university is the part that pained me.

In fact, I’m done with this discussion

Mabuggi88:
That's exactly how you feel it is but it's not how it is. You are explaining from self assumption. You think it is still in the olden days they used to sell such narratives? Your narration is otherwise the exact opposite

And what makes you think your is not a self assumption?

Because you think the opposite ?

U09ce:
Omoh. Your knowledge is archaic. No employer will overlook Covenant graduate o. First class and 2.1. They complete and many times outshine their counterparts from public universities

Refer me to just one list, mostly an international list, where private university graduates outshine public university graduates.

There are many scholarships, fellowships, grants, admission processes, etc where these guys have competed. Show me one private university graduate doing better than a public university graduate. We can start with basic scholarships like Erasmus.

Before you see one private, you don see fifty public.

Lekby25:
Let him go and visit Covenant University, and make research, he will know what they call resources, and good management of the resources.

What do you mean by “resources?”

I thought resources in terms of research was money. Do private universities have more money than public universities? Do they win grants more than public universities?

GloriousGbola:
ask around. what you want as an employer is people who come out of university with a baseline skill level and exposure. schools like covenant offer this which means you get employees who can hit the ground running rather than be handheld and retrained

if you are a supervisor in corporate you want your life to be as easy as possible. your average public uni grad does not even know how to use ms office properly. i now run a business on my own and do not pay corporate wages so i have to make do with your average public uni grad and believe me, it is frustrating




the whole purpose of school is training for the rat race. more importantly, i am a graduate of a public uni and i have bitter repressed memories of the malicious, weaponized incompetence of public school lecturers. the causal incompetence where they misplace results, where they proudly fail entire sets, and sexually harass students with impunity.


talk to any of your public uni classmates who went abroad for a masters. exposure to a working academic system leaves them with nothing but contempt for most of the lecturers they encountered back in school

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN9H4W-wfmyZKDEBKUa4_seMe89qq1YDn

this is different from his normal fare, but largely accuarte

unfortunately, nigerians have been so messed up that they think surviving hardship rather than thriving as individuals is something to celebrate

You see, you clearly said where your bias comes from. You are a product of public university graduates that crossed all lines and could hardly produce graduates that could use MS Word. The problem is your Alma mater and not Public University as a system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPMQ4tJ-1z4

PepeXKermit:
This is the psyop they fed you to believe hook line and sinker there was something special about public universities. If lecturers in public univetsities actually did their job, you will not make this statement. Imagine having this mentality and attending a university abroad, you will see how flawed this reasoning is.

But the professors in your private universities are the junior lecturers in those public institutions.

Abi?

Kewtt:
Then you must know Professor Agbede....he practically built Babcock University's law programme. Public universities have a lot of problems with accountability of the personnel, which impacts the learning process of the students. No doubt we have excellent and some vastly experienced personnel in the public universities. But truth be told it's like comparing public primary and secondary schools with the private primary and secondary schools.... The difference is vast and multidimensional.

The government is NOT ready to fund education. The private cannot fund like the government but they have far better management of the available resources.

The real currency here is the time of the learners. The public universities are more likely to waste your time which is your life. That you cannot buy back.

A lot of people's lives have been totally ruined by the public university systems. I can go on and on. From imposition of courses to overcrowded classrooms and outright unconducive learning environments.... With widespread poverty pervading the atmosphere coupled with the so-called yahoo boiz and gals strutting about the institution.

Most private universities are levellers. No cars, eat same food, no extravagance, morals still taught, courtesy taught, and above all your time is NOT wasted. ...which is your life!

The conversation is neither here nor there, as both have outfits which engage in sharp practices

So are you saying a public university lecturer single handedly “practically built Babcock University's law programme?”. But then went ahead to say “Public universities have a lot of problems with accountability of the personnel, which impacts the learning process of the students.”

How can the product of a salty water, be a fresh water?

Helinuse:
The painful part in your write up is that you think that I think like you.

So somehow, in your mind, you think that orange colored, air conditioned rooms make people learn better. You obviously don’t know that the buildings in Oxford and Cambridge are older than the cave where you c o o k e d your mindset.

How you brought me down to the low by thinking k am also thinking like y o u that vawulene is th quality of a public university is the part that pained me.

In fact, I’m done with this discussion

I hate to be that person but i actually see why people never understsnd dj cuppy. The level of experience is world apart.. those outside thst circle can ndver relate. Bye.

dahmie2013:
Yes, like there are so many government jobs available. Seems you're not thinking.

Oga even in the private sector federal school graduates have more value. No be today I dey work for private sector, okay? Everyone sees private school grads as people who were pampered to graduate, and the embarrass themselves with the way they indiscriminately award GPAs above 90%. So laughable.

Helinuse:
I can guess the multinational.

The multinational is a company that has an earring wearing, dread locked hair, in a sagged trouser, in lekki, who talks a lot about “gift cards,” as the “founder.”

🤣🤣🤣

You're crazy 🤣🤣

Helinuse:
Ranking based on what?

Based on perception index?

Or based on research and quality of academics?

If it is based on the first, which many ranking use, then all private universities will soon be ranked higher than all public universities. Nigeria knows how to bad talk their own and sweet talk what they don’t have.

If it is based on academics or research, then I will ask you to pick a covenant university HoD at random, and tell me where his main or primary jobs is. 🤣🤣🤣

But if you want to know about the quality of a university, pick any grant, scholarship, fellowship, etc where these students get to compete without bias. Maybe we can start with the Chevening scholarship for Masters or PhD, or Erasmus Mundus, or Marie Curie Research Fellowship, etc where these guys get to compete based on brains. Check the list of the awardees based on their Alma Mater. If you find even one private university, come back and tell me. 🤣🤣🤣

Private university is trash..meant for those who can't pass JAMB

xoverx:
Oga even in the private sector federal school graduates have more value. No be today I dey work for private sector, okay? Everyone sees private school grads as people who were pampered to graduate, and the embarrass themselves with the way they indiscriminately award GPAs above 90%. So laughable.

Exactly

Helinuse:
So are you saying a public university lecturer single handedly “practically built Babcock University's law programme?”. But then went ahead to say “Public universities have a lot of problems with accountability of the personnel, which impacts the learning process of the students.”

How can the product of a salty water, be a fresh water?

via desalination

Helinuse:
Refer me to just one list, mostly an international list, where private university graduates outshine public university graduates.

There are many scholarships, fellowships, grants, admission processes, etc where these guys have competed. Show me one private university graduate doing better than a public university graduate. We can start with basic scholarships like Erasmus.

Before you see one private, you don see fifty public.

Even Nigeria

ariesbull:
via desalination

Good

ariesbull:
Private university is trash..meant for those who can't pass JAMB

They are just enjoying these days of hype, simply because there is a spirit that keeps growing in Nigerians that makes them dislike everything that belongs to the country and down talk it.

And since the public schools are disliked, the private schools benefit.

CodeTemplarr:
Page six of a battle that shouldn't have been fought. They all avoided the link i posted about DSS bursting public universities selling Certificates for N2m.

Cc helinuse.

The public schools now churn out so many criminal elements. Too many uncivilized humans come from there and they confuse their english speaking ability for correctness so no one can correct them. Thats how helinuse came to be what he ia today. Good morning young man.

If someone tells you that I understand what you are saying, sue that person for deceit.

You hear?

Helinuse:
If someone tells you that I understand what you are saying, sue that person for deceit.

You hear?

a skillful way to avoid dealing with the reality of public schools selling certificates. It was exposed by DSS and not a roadside mediahouse. See below.

https://www.nairaland.com/7902421/degree-sale-sting-operation-exposes

Helinuse:
I can guess the multinational.

The multinational is a company that has an earring wearing, dread locked hair guy, in a sagged trouser, in lekki, who talks a lot about “gift cards,” as the “founder.”

🤣🤣🤣

Wrong!!…

Helinuse:
They are just enjoying these days of hype, simply because there is a spirit that keeps growing in Nigerians that makes them dislike everything that belongs to the country and down talk it.

And since the public schools are disliked, the private schools benefit.

a First class in a private university is equivalent to 2.2 or 3rd in federal university

Helinuse:
I can guess the multinational.

The multinational is a company that has an earring wearing, dread locked hair guy, in a sagged trouser, in lekki, who talks a lot about “gift cards,” as the “founder.”

🤣🤣🤣

Wrong!!…it’s a company you wished to be employed in.

ariesbull:
a First class in a private university is equivalent to 2.2 or 3rd in federal university

That's a big lie

doghorp:
That's a big lie

Watch this video and see what a private school undergraduate that is studying Nursing she can't even explain digestion and regurgitation... What they taught us in secondary school biology and agric

I will never hire private universities graduates


https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1aP8rPGy1m/

Frezhkid10:
Wrong!!…it’s a company you wished to be employed in.

Even Blords company will say the same to anyone.

CodeTemplarr:
a skillful way to avoid dealing with the reality of public schools selling certificates. It was exposed by DSS and not a roadside mediahouse. See below.

https://www.nairaland.com/7902421/degree-sale-sting-operation-exposes

Public University that are not profit oriented do sell certificates, while a private universities that are totally profit oriented are not selling certificates?

Go see your doctor.