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I'm an atheist, and to me you sound like you want to play God. Or why else would you think you are knowledgeable and powerful enough to achieve what you've claimed here?

Anyway, I'm booked. And I shan't be on your side.

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Lol!

Just like saying you'd make a pot hate its Potter which made it from dust and gave it life.

What has the Potter got to lose really?

He could easily destroy the pot and make many other replacements without much ado.

However to have the Potter still afford the same pots He moulded from dust, that would be lifeless without Him, the temerity to hate, question, mock, abuse, reject, blaspheme, or rebel against Him with the life and intelligence He gave to them, without instantly destroying or retrieving the life He gave to them is extremely unique and distinctive.

Trust me, even you that attempts to make the creation hate their Creator, can never take same messure of insult or rebellion from a pot you made yourself before shattering it.

But thank God, God is not like you men, otherwise you won't even be here to begin with, talkless of having the effrontery to open a stupid thread against Him.

God bless.

Ourtruth247:
I actually think Christians are closer to the truth than atheists. Now I am not saying I know the entirety of the truth, I am however confident that I am closer to it than the typical Christian.

Your approach will make it really difficult for you to accept the truth but just as Jesus foretold:

"you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:32

That statement is addressing honest hearted and sincere individuals not arrogant liars deceiving themselves.

So tell me what is your own personal perception of the true God?

Which of the “gods” or God🤔 I’m here to laugh or recommend a psych atrist or psychologist if it gets too far😂
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Ourtruth247:
[b] Fear ...However, a lot people didn’t leave the thread just because I was challenging their religion, but because they are afraid to question the authority of the god they worship.

Fear is the most effective means of creating submission. It’s a tool used by oppressors to suppress dissent and keep the enslaved in a state of perpetual bondage. This is a very important point to note as we proceed...

Since you observe that fear is a tool used by oppressors to suppress dissent then you ought to know that those who do these are those who are like coupist and mutineers and people who stole rule and are trying to take power to make themselves. And these have to forcefully over press (o'press) others to get them to comply.

Meanwhile, all of us are classmates, so it is like one classmate trying to impose his will over his fellow classmates: it would not be easy hence the need for over pression (o'pression)

However, those who have lawful rule do not need oppress others eg parents to their children, creator to creations etc. Natural life and living is the Ruler of all and this is where God, Whom Christians serve is exempted from your presentation

Ourtruth247:
The unending search for happiness, peace and meaning

It is a well documented fact that suicide rates are higher among the wealthy. But why is that? ..

You have changed and deviated from your own post.

You said you were going to point out why people are going to hate their God/god but you have departed from it

I believe that if you truly have any grounded basis you could make it without relying on peoples weaknesses and fault.

So,, this is you trying to use emotional blackmail and appeal to oppress others into getting them to blindly and unreasonably accept your presentation.

So, you see you are no different from the oppressors you talked about earlier as you are using the tool of education and emotional blackmail to get them to your own will too.

So you see, you point a finger at others and even your own fingers point right back at you

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Relax and listen. Dont be quick to point out what you dont know. The thread is just starting. Most of you think you know the answerto everything meanwhile you dont even understandthe question.

Dtruthspeaker:
You have changed and deviated from your own post.

You said you were going to point out why people are going to hate their God/god but you have departed from it

I believe that if you truly have any grounded basis you could make it without relying on peoples weaknesses and fault.

So,, this is you trying to use emotional blackmail and appeal to oppress others into getting them to blindly and unreasonably accept your presentation.

So, you see you are no different from the oppressors you talked about earlier as you are using the tool of education and emotional blackmail to get them to your own will too.

So you see, you point a finger at others and even your own fingers point right back at you

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Ourtruth247:
I am not an atheist

An atheist by definition is someone who doesn't believe in the existence of a god. Going by the definition, I am not an atheist.

The above is a Christian's definition of atheism. You can tell by the use of the word "believe".

It's like claiming you do not believe you have a million pounds in your bank account. If you bothered to check, you'd know whether you have a million pounds in your bank account or not.

Ourtruth247:
It is a well documented fact that suicide rates are higher among the wealthy. But why is that?

No it is not a "well known documented fact that suicide rates are higher among the wealthy". And I don't understand why you are asking us to believe you when you have not provided any evidence to support your claim!

Nowayback10:
Relax and listen. Dont be quick to point out what you dont know. The thread is just starting. Most of you think you know the answerto everything meanwhile you dont even understandthe question.

Nnayi, there is no way that you want to talk about going to Onitsha from Lagos and then you mention mile 2-seme border and that those who know road will not say that he is wrong already

Ourtruth247:
Intentionality in creation

There is an intentional intelligence that governs life on earth.

An intelligence created life on earth, but this intelligence isn't a single person. It's a group of advanced intelligences.

Again, where is the evidence for this your so called "intentional intelligence"?

Would you object to me calling it God?

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Ourtruth247:
Calm down and be patient. Like I said in the previous post, I share information in bits and pieces. I have only just started.

If I post everything in one post not only will it be too long, it will be very confusing. I like to present information in a way that everyone reading will understand.

I understand however, as you yourself already foreknow, your premise is already wrong and offensive so, there is no way that your conclusion will not be wrong. Even the steps towards your conclusion will also be wrong. And that is what I am pointing out.

Ourtruth247:
The earth is an animal farm

I mean this in a literal sense and not in relation to the popular novel by George Orwell...

All these are still disconnected from the topic.

Clearly, you are just trying to sell all the unusable things you peddle in romance section which people are not interested in, so you decided to even stoop to blasphemy and infuriation of Christians just to get attention to do I.vul

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Ourtruth247:
Intentionality in creation

There is an intentional intelligence that governs life on earth. I have some experience with coding and programming languages and the DNA seems like as a source code with specific instructions on how an animal should behave as well as it's physical characteristics.

...Atheists believe that this is a result of evolution and natural selection. Christians see it as an act of God. Again, Christians are closer to the truth.

An intelligence created life on earth, but this intelligence isn't a single person. It's a group of advanced intelligences. They already knew how to build a nest and just coded the birds to be able to build the nest, just like a video game developer codes the video game world to mirror things humans know how to do...

This is where you are selling what you usually sell in romance section.

People have seen it but it is completely wrong to even stoop to blasphemy just because of clout.

Ourtruth247:
Feel free to leave the thread if you don't care about the information I am sharing. I'm not forcing you to stay

The thread is clearly targeted at Christians and it is blasphemous, so, I will be here to keep pointing out that you have said all these before and that the only thing any shallow and unfounded Christian is ivul, sin a person who shall become an enemy of God.

So, from the face of it, you are being an agent of sathan and it will be good for every Christian to leave you.

You can take it to the Muslim section maybe they would thank you for your efforts

Jesus is Lord! Accept Him today.

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Ourtruth247:
Feel free to leave the thread if you don't care about the information I am sharing. I'm not forcing you to stay

following you with an open mind, pls ignore any Jack and bull.

I will advise that our people should open their minds to learn new things about the world we are living in.
If you can not go on research, then have some patient to listen to whoever took it upon himself or herself to dig deeper than what we have known since our infant years..
Religion books are very good as a guide to our life, but it is not enough as the totality of the knowledge about the whole matter of the earth and all the things there in.
Let us look around the world to see that things are deeper than what any religion book is telling us.

We all can see that the real world is definitely deeper than any one religion practised by any group of people in any part of the world.

Learning new things does not really transform your religion outlook , mode of worship or relationship with God .
It only broaden your knowledge of the universe

Therefore, I will advise that people should be open to learn more about this world

When you begin to see your physical body as just a container and not the real you, you draw closer towards spiritual enlightenment. How can one become spiritually enlightened?

gotnel:
I will advise that our people should open their minds to learn new things about the world we are living in. ..

Exactly what sahtan said to Eve and then they suffered, died and more