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| Re: This topic has been removed by Dtruthspeaker: 12:43pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
FreeSpirited:When you are full of sins, you cannot read the Bible. The Bible would be burning you |
| Re: This topic has been removed by FreeSpirited: 1:03pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Ourtruth247:This world is complex no doubt. . But that supreme intelligence is Jehovah who made the universe and humans. Humans as we are is a product of the supreme God not reptilian. .. There are fallen beings, demons and all sort who invade human, who use their body, or space shift for their own evil agenda of deceiving and destroying humans ... And their operation should not be lumped together with Jehovah.. . You cited evidence from astral projection, CIA spirit science, drug induced altered consciousness, demon induced clairvoyant ability and all.... But you will not acknowledge the visions, knowledge and revelation from the holy prophets of God. This is quite bold... And only reeks of intellectual dishonesty and knowledge cherry picking. Like you believe astral projection and the beings and creature they meet in the astral plane, but you won't believe what Daniel saw, what John wrote in revelation and what Ezekiel saw about the glory and throme of Jehovah... Lol... Funny people. . It's like believing counterfeit while rejecting original... Person like you will believe babalawo, Ifa priest, but to believe Holy Prophets is the issue because it's written in the scripture... Okay no worry. The one written by Oyinbo and astral projector is evidence and truth but I should reject the visions of Prophet Daniel, Isaiah, John, Ezekiel and Jeremiah... The level of the deception is truly thick |
| Re: This topic has been removed by FreeSpirited: 1:08pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Dtruthspeaker:That is actually the problem When I was hopeless in sin and lost and buried in the false knowledge of this world, Bible was like a literature and something to make fun of... But I thank God for saving me and having mercy on me... Sin and unbelief will truly makes the light of the bible inaccessible to the lost |
| Re: This topic has been removed by FreeSpirited: 1:10pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Dtruthspeaker:And also hate their God |
| Re: This topic has been removed by Kayberg: 1:13pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Hilarious post. 🤣🤣🤣 You hate GOD does not mean you can make another person do… especially those who know the True GOD. “And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.” — Daniel 11:32 (KJV) |
| Re: This topic has been removed by FreeSpirited: 1:26pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Ourtruth247:Oga stop lying. The Christian God doesn't like war. Say that to the Muslim God. . Before there was need of God's people to war, Egypt and the gods of Egypt enslaved Gods people. . And the earth was already occupied by humans who have rejected God, who has began to peddle violence, idolatry, blood shedding, human sacrifices and all, and God needed to stamp his authority and makes known his power among the deities that control those empires and civilization. So it was important for God to allow his people defeat those other people who sworn allegiance to demons and are ruled by deities and principalities.... That was the necessities for the wars fought by the Israelites. It was a clash of superiority and to instill into the mind of the Israelites that God was the supreme God over those people gods God would disgrace, defeat and handle their land to Gods people... .. Aside, that, Israelites are mostly not the aggressors, the land around would challange them to battle because they believe their gods and arsenal could defeat the small nation isreal. But God had to always make himself known even in battle if need be for Israelites to understand Jehovah was the true God. The defeat suffered by Israelites also was the result of rebellion, and not the fact that Jehovah loved war as you claim. The end of system of things promises a world without war. Which will bring long lasting peace and end to suffering. So how then do you always say God loved war and fed off Loosh produced through human death and suffering? These are lies and deception. Only demons can feed off lust, wars, violence, human suffering and all negative emotions. Not Jehovah. . Jehovah is holy. His throne is governed by peace, love, justice and righteousness. Doesn't feed on Loosh... Except deities. Stop conflating Jehovah with lesser deities. His son is called the Prince of peace for a reason. Not Prince of war or violence feeding off Loosh |
| Re: This topic has been removed by FreeSpirited: 1:51pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Ourtruth247:The only being that you should be concerned about whose activity and ploys impact humanity is Satan and his agents. They are the one keeping you in bondage and darkeness that your mind may not see the saving light of the Gospel of Christ. Either you love it or not, God created us for his pleasure that we may express his glory, power and praise. The best state you can become is expressing his glory, reflecting his praise, making your life a testament to his power, otherwise, the devil will make you express his own power, wisdom and praise, like being his agent. And at the end he will discard you, and off to eternal destruction. You have to pick which side you want to be. There is no void or middle ground here. That was why Elijah told the prophets of Baal, "how long would you waiver between two opinions, If Jehovah be God worship him, and if Baal be God worship him". No humans can run away from worship. Worship is an essence of the universe and the soul. Even your children worships you, and you don't count it as perversion, you someway worship your kings, President and parents, but to honour God your creator is a problem. You see, those feeling/sentiments are the traits of Lucifer who wanted to be independent who doesn't want to defer to the Almighty. Rebellion of he that was made against his maker. Pride against your creator is a satanic trait. It's true that western ideology wants us to be boss, and not a servant but Jesus came to teach us service and servant hood and he demonstrated that by servanthood, humility, dependence on God by praying to him and acknowledgement of our limitations, being the only route to greatness in his kingdom. But the devil will give you an opposite wisdom. If Jesus can worship God, prayed to him and dependent on him. What are humans ordinary grasss and clay You talked about worshipping God in eternity. You will be mistaken you already know exactly everything that awaits believers in his Kingdom. No you don't. You can't even fathom. And the life and glory that awaits believers in eternity can not be understood or fathom, we can sum it up and say worship... But it's more than that because scripture says eyes has not seen, ears has not heard, nor has it come to the mind of man the plans God have in eternity for those that love and seek him. So don't live by your false assumptions thinking only Hallelujah is done there. Receive Christ, believe God and you will know Gods glory is worth seeking |
| Re: This topic has been removed by Dtruthspeaker: 2:01pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
FreeSpirited:In my case, it did me somehow. I did not like how I feel when I hear the word bible and I found it even difficult to touch it. And when I did gra gra to even read it, in 1 minute I have dropped it. The Bible is powerful and makes sinners allergic to it. |
| Re: This topic has been removed by FreeSpirited: 2:08pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Dtruthspeaker:. I swear. ![]() The Bible exposes and convicts the life of sin in us. It's like Adam running away to hide from God. It's a natural response when the devil is in total control of our lives. Anytime I remember those time, I always feel bad, especially stumbling on the rubbish I wrote and believed against the scripture and Christianity. . Thank God for forgiveness and restoration. |
| Re: This topic has been removed by Hhh4444: 2:08pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
OKOATA:If we go by your reasoning that everything has a maker,then who created God? Don't tell me God created itself. |
| Re: This topic has been removed by Dtruthspeaker: 2:12pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Ourtruth247:So as we are talking now, we worshipping God? Or the millions who have gone to a work are serving Him in His Office? Or the millions who are eating, drinking carrying oloshos, killing, stealing etc are not doing it for themselves abi? And did you not applaud when your fellow man threw his fellow man called yahoo boys and drug dealers and child defilers into their own version of lake of fire? I thank God, it is already your portion |
| Re: This topic has been removed by FreeSpirited: 2:14pm On Oct 31, 2025*. Modified: 6:55pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Hhh4444:Why do you want to know who created God. Who told you you have the capacity to know who created God even if he were created? Do you even know who your true Father is, or the true father of your great grand father. Except that you were told, and a man told you his your father. Can you verify the claim? What if you were adopted? What if you were a product of paternity fraud that your mom never revealed to you or anyone. What if your great grandfather was a product of paternity fraud too. How can you establish such truth but you want to know the Father that Father the father of God . .. You don't even have capacity to know who truly was your father you want to know who created God.... Does that even make any sense? Like God of the whole universe O. Yet he gave us a witness through his prophets and scripture that his knowledge/wisdom is unsearchable, u want to search it bro? But u can't even have proof of the true Father of your great grandpa. .. Oga, better go and sit down and seek mercy. Who do you think you are. |
| Re: This topic has been removed by CaptainJune: 2:18pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Ourtruth247, in all honesty, I am an open-minded person who loves to consume written material flavoured with intellectual value. However, in your case, I take an exception. You have garnished your presentation with lies about the true God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ who came in the flesh and died for your sins and mine. You have allowed yourself to become the mouthpiece of lying spirits who want nothing but the destruction of the entire human race who are made in the image of God. You have been manipulated and have bought into the lies of malevolent, spiteful, deceiving, loathful fallen spirits who masquerade as aliens with the aim to keep you from the very truth you seek – the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. There is no truth outside of Him because He is the truth. Do not forget we warned you. The devil hates you, he hates us, the image of God. He knows that the best way to destroy mankind is to keep them from seeing the truth that will lead to their salvation. Do you ever wonder why he is called the father of lies? Now he is lying through you that Elohim delights in child sacrifice and killings. Nothing can be further from the truth. It is written God is love and whoever loves his brother, even his enemies, knows God. The devil does not want you to see this truth. |
| Re: This topic has been removed by Dtruthspeaker: 2:24pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
FreeSpirited:In my days God was on ground and we had a natural fear for Him, so I just pity people who speak anyhow about Him, especially when the bible even fore said so, yet stu... children still fell into it. What a pafuka generation |
| Re: This topic has been removed by Dtruthspeaker: 2:38pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
CaptainJune:If you read the Bible you would see that some people are unsavable and op is one of them. |
| Re: This topic has been removed by gotnel: 2:53pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
FreeSpirited:Very correct. However, it is not the way we handle religion in this part of the world. Our religious characters are not scientific. That is why we remain backwards. |
| Re: This topic has been removed by OKOATA(m): 3:06pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Hhh4444:If you are looking for who created God then he isn't God. What it means is that God created himself. He's eternity, he's been there before time, space and everything called knowledge we know today. So if you want to know who created God then God created himself. |
| Re: This topic has been removed by Dtruthspeaker: 3:30pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Hhh4444:Everyone knows that when we say everything we mean the things we have seen and experienced in this world. So, your question is invalid and out of place |
| Re: This topic has been removed by Dtruthspeaker: 3:34pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
OKOATA:This is wrong. No man knows how God came about and it is not relevant. The relevant part is that He is before us and before our time and world that we know. So if he cannot say something about the everything we all know, then it is his loss. For it does not matter where God comes from for that is a different topic out of the scope. |
| Re: This topic has been removed by Hhh4444: 4:22pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
FreeSpirited:one issue I have with you people is throwing insults around when explaining something....The God you are addressing as "he",how are you so sure it's a male gender and not female. Op has always encouraged us to be open minded,but here you are already concluding God's gender because one religious book that was written by human being like you told you so...one thing that I have always learnt is to to keep asking questions and not accept everything I hear or read hook line and sinker. |
| Re: This topic has been removed by FreeSpirited: 4:26pm On Oct 31, 2025*. Modified: 6:12pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Hhh4444:The scripture is not the thought of man. . The Bible said God inspired holy men to write the word of God. Peter said as holy prophets were moved and inspired so they spoke. All prophesy in the Bible was not written by the will of man. Timothy said all scriptures are written by the inspiration of God. . ... .. Genesis said God created Adam in his Image. That means Adam being male was the true copy of the image of God. But Eve was created out of Adam. If God was Female, he would probably have created Adam female and make a male out of his rib.... This is straight forward.... You can't classify Bible like the literature you read for your UTME |
| Re: This topic has been removed by OKOATA(m): 5:01pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Dtruthspeaker:What do you mean by this is wrong, I only answered him according to his questions. Me that don't know how I was formed in the womb is the one that wants to know who created God. That means I dey kraze na. |
| Re: This topic has been removed by correctguy101(m): 5:10pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Where did this FreeSpirited come from? He come aggressive pass dem Ebuka of back then. Maximus you have to handle this person abeg. Well, if anyone were to be honest with themselves, the God that commanded the massacres of the old testament, slaughtering the old, young and even infants (animal sef no safe) is different from the peace loving God Jesus preached about. You expect God to give you eternal life but in Genesis he already withheld that privilege as he never wanted his supposed creatures to even have common sense. He got angry when their eyes opened and drove them away before they could eat from the second tree and gain eternal life. The records are there in your holy book. Or you wan show us anywhere in ya holy book where Satan was explicitly mentioned killing or sending someone to kill? The records only mentioned Yahweh and when Satan was even mentioned, he was under Yahweh's order to show Job shege. Only Yahweh sent angels to kill, sent lying spirits and spirits of deceit. Jesus spoke against all these and made it clear say na devil dey do all these things. So once again, the God of the old testament, is entirely different from the one Jesus represents. It's like two extremes. Anyhow you plan to twist the narrative to suit your beliefs is your problem. Know that most of us were once Christians and had once convinced ourselves with the same arguments. Knowing is different from believing. You don't believe one plus one is two, you know it. If I go even pick any faith again sef, na to research more on Jesus and his God than waste my time telling people about the war god Yahweh. Some of you even believe the narrative of your ancestors being devil worshippers. It's okay not to know. See as una begin dismissing the question of who created God. It's one of those questions that exposes how arrogant you people are. Anyhow e be sha, na una know. |
| Re: This topic has been removed by Hhh4444: 5:13pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
FreeSpirited:Are you aware the bible you put your whole trust in has been edited overtime? Many things were removed and many things were added just for the purpose of controlling people. What stops that same God from inspiring you and not relying on the writings of those that claimed to have been inspired by God?look around the world today,so much injustice,pain and suffering and you still believe this is a design of a loving God. |
| Re: This topic has been removed by correctguy101(m): 5:24pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Hhh4444:Oh, do you not know? The argument is that the world is under the influence of the devil. And God does not need to inspire anyone anymore, he's already inspired some the people who decided which book should be among the holy ..."scriptures"... 🤧🙄 |
| Re: This topic has been removed by FreeSpirited: 5:24pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
correctguy101:If you have an enemy more powerful than you, and ready to kill you and your lineage and you now get a spirit, a god, or deity to fight that enemy for you, and he end up destroying the enemy and the spiritual powers of the enemy and his descendants, won't you be happy? Will you say why did the spirit you called killed your enemy? You want Adam to eat tree of life after corrupting himself? So that evil people can live forever? Inagine all the whites that killed Africans and enslaved them was still alive including all the evil people in the past. Is that a world you want? .. How would you want a world of evil or evil people to live forever, doing what? That's what you call for by saying Adam should have been allowed to eat tree of life.... .. Oga your leaving Christianity is nothing to celebrate. You only fell into deception, I once fell into that deception, but Christ helped me out by himself, and since, the only structure that I believe can help you know God is first yourself, second your honesty and real determination to know God. Three your readiness to follow God's will if God is revealed to you. Church won't reveal God to you because most churches have been hijacked and corrupted. . The question is, are you truly ready to know God? Are you ready to forsake your sin? Will you accept God's will and instructions? You can't click all these boxes with honesty and God won't reveal himself through his word. He will encounter you directly..... But where is the readiness and humility? You can't come to God with pride and full of wisdom.... .. Like who are you? |
| Re: This topic has been removed by Dtruthspeaker: 5:24pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
OKOATA:You have said it, you don't know. What is wrong is for you to say that God created Himself. You are not expected to know that and neither does the other person asking you too. It is even off point for the everything you are talking about is referring to the things we have seen and not about things no man can know |
| Re: This topic has been removed by correctguy101(m): 5:35pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
FreeSpirited:Don't hurry brother. Look at the bolded and go read Yahweh's pronouncements when Adam ate from the tree of knowledge. It was recorded that "MAN HAS NOW BECOME LIKE US, KNOWING GOOD AND BAD". ... He became like his God, knowing good and bad. Not evil and corrupt. And that was his crime, so the chance to eat what will give eternal life and complete the transformation was denied him. It's in the book. I didn't put it there. Straight to the point, that was how it was recorded. |
| Re: This topic has been removed by OKOATA(m): 5:51pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Dtruthspeaker:Oga rest, if you can't comprehend simple things rest. Did I tell you I saw God when he created himself? |
| Re: This topic has been removed by Dtruthspeaker: 5:53pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
correctguy101:Was it the knowing that he was punished for or the doing? Look at all the crime news, what are people punished for? And Genesis 6 shows how ivul man became that God regretted creating him |
| Re: This topic has been removed by Dtruthspeaker: 5:58pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
OKOATA:You people can hate correction, yet ready to correct others You clearly said that God created Himself as if you saw it when you did not. So why not stand on the Certainties? |
| Re: This topic has been removed by OKOATA(m): 6:01pm On Oct 31, 2025 |
Saturnalia:You read all of these from a book. You and OP have been brainwashed bro. Emancipate yourself. You and OP says there's no God after reading a book that formatted your brain like the way terrorist are being brainwashed, but you know the twist in this that the same people who wrote it the book you and OP read was likely written by an American but this same white man will put God Bless America on their money and when the atheist wake in the morning and they say God bless America too so who are you guys deceiving if not yourselves? Who's the God Americans are calling on.? |
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