₦airaland Forum

IMEI:
I have no problem with stating Christians are dying

What I have a problem with is the framing of the situation. Calling it a Christian genocide is making it appear as a targeted campaign against Christians which is false

It's a problem of widespread insecurity affecting a whole region, across ethnic and religious lines

IMEI:
I won't deny there have been killings, I stated such

My point is simple. The places that have it the worst regarding killings are : Zamfara, Niger, Katsina, Benue, Kaduna, parts of Sokoto and now parts of Kwara. These are the main hotbeds of the violence

All except Benue have majority Muslim deaths and victims. Taraba is more affected by intra ethnic violence than banditry, Nassarawa's is more of a spillover from neighbouring areas than it being an epicenter

Religious violence isn't new to the North, but the current pervasive insecurity isn't a religiously motivated one. That's why calling it a genocide against a particular group, implying the specific targeting of that group is simply false

The reality is that the continuous promotion of this narrative will only serve to create resentment between the Christians and Muslims of the North, especially from the Muslims, because they suffer it more

What is happening is as a result of the bastardization of governance at all levels

LordAdam16:
I also disagree with the Christian genocide characterization.

But you will agree that this is a situation that certain interest groups primarily of a certain background have allowed to fester through inaction.

The facts are damning.
Christians are a minority in the North.
People are not going to wait until Christians are extinct in the North before stating that Islamist groups in Nigeria are killing Christians.
No Christian militia in the South is killing Muslims and then Christians in the South will try to muddy the waters by saying they're killing Christians too. It is simply not happening. No Christian militia is killing Christians or Muslims.

Why can that not happen in the North?
Why is any attempt to make that not happen in the North met with initial criticisms of framing.
We need to put comma in the right place while thousands are killed.

-Lord

LordAdam16:
The interesting part is that no one said Muslims are not dying.
But somehow they want it to be forbidden to say Christians are dying.

They are on a long thing.

-Lord

IMEI:
Between Muslims and Christians who have been the overwhelming victims of Boko Haram violence?

Keep in mind that I don't care if you believe me or not, I'm just stating facts

Unlike you who reads things online, I've lived it

LordAdam16:
I also disagree with the Christian genocide characterization.

But you will agree that this is a situation that certain interest groups primarily of a certain background have allowed to fester through inaction.

The facts are damning.
Christians are a minority in the North.
People are not going to wait until Christians are extinct in the North before stating that Islamist groups in Nigeria are killing Christians.
No Christian militia in the South is killing Muslims and then Christians in the South will try to muddy the waters by saying they're killing Christians too. It is simply not happening. No Christian militia is killing Christians or Muslims.

Why can that not happen in the North?
Why is any attempt to make that not happen in the North met with initial criticisms of framing.
We need to put comma in the right place while thousands are killed.

-Lord

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
I've lived in the NW too, one of the K- state bordering Niger Republic. If you don't want to acknowledge the Christian genocides in Nigeria, that's your own cup of tea.
Benue and Plateau is no go area. Southern Kaduna , they're also wrecking havoc.

We have seen Iranian jews and Christians freely conducting their religious activities in Iran without attacks or persecution, same thing in Gaza, Lebanon. Go to Russia, there are millions of Muslims and Christians we don't hear such story. Why is our own different? Whether Muslims or Christians the killings should stop in the North.

You can't get be shouting Free Palestine while at home , scores are killed cox of their faith/believe yet you are not doing anything about it.

IMEI:
Christians are being killed along with Muslims

As for a genocide specifically targeted at Christians, that doesn't exist

It would have been better if you had said that Christians might be endangered due to the killings against them since they're generally a minority in the North. Even then, I'd be cautious because the reality is that a genocide against Christians can only be possible if there's a collective Muslim effort against them in the North

Bandit groups don't even have the capacity to commit a genocide against Northern Christians, the only thing they can do is make them flee their lands die to violence and that happens in all areas, whether Muslim or Christian

Obedience40:
Don't mind that fellow!!

After trying hard to water down the carnage in Sudan with his scribbles, dude is now actively trying hard to fit the US into the conflict.🤣🤣

When the US has tried over time to broker a ceasefire!!

Itzlinda:
The ratio of Muslims to Christians dying is 1:5 at best. So why don't Muslims call it Muslim genocide. You see how it doesn't make sense

WriterrNg:
The US involvement in this matter will only make things worse than they already are.

More jihadi groups will begin to appear the moment any foreign forces step foot in our country.

Groups that will make Boko Haram and the herdsmen look like child's play.

Itzlinda:
The ratio of Muslims to Christians dying is 1:5 at best. So why don't Muslims call it Muslim genocide. You see how it doesn't make sense

IMEI:
Christians are being killed along with Muslims

As for a genocide specifically targeted at Christians, that doesn't exist

It would have been better if you had said that Christians might be endangered due to the killings against them since they're generally a minority in the North. Even then, I'd be cautious because the reality is that a genocide against Christians can only be possible if there's a collective Muslim effort against them in the North

Bandit groups don't even have the capacity to commit a genocide against Northern Christians, the only thing they can do is make them flee their lands die to violence and that happens in all areas, whether Muslim or Christian

WriterrNg:

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That's what I've been trying to tell them.

Muslims are dying in a much greater number. These terrorists do not care about who you

The US involvement in this matter will only make things worse than they already are.

More jihadi groups will begin to appear the moment any foreign forces step foot in our country.

Groups that will make Boko Haram and the herdsmen look like child's play.

WriteerNg:
I've been hearing alot of good news from Pro Ukrainain accounts about Pokrovsk.

LordAdam16:
Is your statement in bold not a damning revelation.

That Islamist militia groups can make entire settlements of Christians flee their historic lands in Nigeria.
The Israelis are doing it in the West Bank. ISIS did it in Syria. But Christians in Nigeria cannot protest because it also happens to Muslims.
So because there are killers out there, you would not seek justice when someone you know is a victim.

What are you arguing?
So when the Christians flee their historic lands, what is the religious constitution of those who take over the abandoned land?
What is ethnic cleansing?

You do know someone can interpret all these long shalaye as attempting to make excuses for these murderous beasts ba?

Islamists are killing Christians.
Christians said enough is enough.
You're telling them to mind their language.

-Lord

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Stop calling them bandits, there are islamic terrorist. No be me u go gaslight. People wey dey overrun military base and formation. Take over local government, communities.
We saw videos when they went for peace talks in Zamfara with the government. All were armed to the teeth

WriterrNg:
Arm the Nigerian army proper and deploy hundreds of thousands of them to the worst hit areas and watch Boko Haram die a natural death.

That's what i want to see, not western forces in our country.

It's funny that this is happening now that western forces are being expelled from other African countries.

They're looking for where to site their permanent bases.

WriterrNg:
Arm the Nigerian army proper and deploy hundreds of thousands of them to the worst hit areas and watch Boko Haram die a natural death.

That's what i want to see, not western forces in our country.

It's funny that this is happening now that western forces are being expelled from other African countries.

They're looking for where to site their permanent bases.

shoodboi2:
I called the genocide a genocide. You refused to call it such but instead refer to it as a carnage. And yet, it is me who is watering it down. The joke is on you.

We all know your camp supports the genocide in Sudan. As usual, it is only a matter of time before you all come out of your shells and start referring to the genocide as “necessary killings.”

That was how you were all disguising about the terrorist JNIM group in Mali and Burkina Faso until you all started to brag about it.

LordAdam16:
For the umpteenth time, no one is welcoming foreign forces to Nigeria.

We don't want American geologists in Nigeria.
But we would not lose sleep if America sanctions the Nigerian power brokers who through their inaction have allowed the situation to deteriorate this badly.

Nigeria can solve this problem on its own.
We have the population and we have good relationships with the superpowers (well except Iran that the id**ts antagonized by murdering Shiites).
A one-time special surge to 5 million soldiers and a brutal existential war on terror will end this rubbish in five years.
No wunderwaffe or foreigner necessary.
But they refuse to for whatever reason.

-Lord

Hoaxen:
All this genocide accusations flying around up and down until it reached Nigeria and south Africa is a direct consequence of the bastardization of the term "genocide" by Hamas terrorists sympathisers.

They modified the definition of genocide to fit their anti Israeli propaganda and now it can fit almost every conflict around the world. 🤭

If Hamas jihadists "genocide" propaganda continues. The term "genocide" will loose any real meaning as a term.

Just imagine:
Trigger happy police officers kill some youths = youth genocide.

Fight occurs in a market place between two tribes leaving two members of one tribe dead= tribal genocide.

Random Nigerian bandits kill some European tourists= European genocide. Etc

A round of applause for Hamas terrorist sympathisers 👏👏👏 they have given a very simple and straightforward word new meaning. 🤡🤡🤡

obedience4:
You are spot on mate!!

How can you argue that there's genocide in Gaza and then not agree that there's genocide in Nigeria