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MightySparrow:
There are myriad of testimonies about Muslims claiming to have seeing Jesus in a dream, hearing His voice, having visitations and after such encounters, thet changed their faith. These people are convinced beyond an iota of doubts they saw Jesus and the impact becomes a lasting thing and would protect that with their lives.

If Islam is a religion of Jesus, why would He call people out of it?
Are Jehovah and Allah one and the same person? Is Mohammed a messenger of Yahweh?

HeatSeeker:
Surprisingly, not the way you think. Especially when you look at the interpretations and behaviour ascribed to these beings by their followers.

Everyone has a master to serve. When the student is ready, the master will appear.

Ephort:
As of today, Cristiano Ronaldo is a Christian, a Roman Catholic. The rumour has been clearly debunked.

HeatSeeker:
You've missed the point of this thread entirely.

MightySparrow:
Please explain more clearly

HeatSeeker:
My explanation is clear enough.

Like I implied earlier. The individual that met with Christ on the inner planes is now ready for the next step in her spiritual journey.

Does this detract from Islam as a path to God?! Certainly not. It only means that her time learning life's lessons as a Muslim has come to an end and it is now time for her to continue her learning by becoming a Christian in this lifetime.

MightySparrow:
There are myriad of testimonies about Muslims claiming to have seeing Jesus in a dream, hearing His voice, having visitations and after such encounters, thet changed their faith. These people are convinced beyond an iota of doubts they saw Jesus and the impact becomes a lasting thing and would protect that with their lives.

If Islam is a religion of Jesus, why would He call people out of it?
Are Jehovah and Allah one and the same person? Is Mohammed a messenger of Yahweh?

MightySparrow:
So Islam is an improvement on Judaism, Christianity.

MightySparrow:
There are myriad of testimonies about Muslims claiming to have seeing Jesus in a dream, hearing His voice, having visitations and after such encounters, thet changed their faith. These people are convinced beyond an iota of doubts they saw Jesus and the impact becomes a lasting thing and would protect that with their lives.

If Islam is a religion of Jesus, why would He call people out of it?
Are Jehovah and Allah one and the same person? Is Mohammed a messenger of Yahweh?

haekymbahd:
Yes Muhammad is the messenger of YHWH, ALLAH and YHWH are the same.

First of all do the Jews know that the name of there God is Jehovah. Last time I checked the Jewish people refer to there God as Adonai, Elohim, hashem e.t.c. They claim to have forgotten the original pronunciation Tetragamation "YHWH".

"Allah" an Arabic word means "the God" in English. Not only the muslims use the word Allah but also Arab Christians and Jews, so it is quite funny to me seeing you linking the word ALLAH to Muslims alone.

Yes "YHWH" is the same as "ALLAH" unless you as Christian don't believe YHWH is God?

I don't see any alarm in Muslims seeing Jesus in dream. Since Allah is the God of all prophets including Muhammad, Jesus, Moses so a Muslim can see any of these 3 in dreams..

The only reason to discredit this dream as a Muslim is if it contradict the holy book of muslims. For example If a Muslim sees Jesus in a dream and he didn't claim that he should be worshipped or he is God then that is a Good dream from ALLAH.

Even Jesus himself in the Bible said false Christ will arise and warned not to believe all who claim to be Christ. So in essence one can see a false Christ or true Christ in dream the only ways to determine the truth is to test it with the word of God.

For Muslims to see Muhammad in dream definitely Jesus, Angels can also be seen in a dream since they served same God.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says:

"Say, "We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him.""
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 84)

Muhammad is the messenger of YHWH also
ALLAH and YHWH are the same.

MightySparrow:
What is the meaning of YHWH?

haekymbahd:
YHWH means "I will be what I will be".

Exodus 6
3. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God Almighty, but by My name Lord I was not known to them.

YHWH is ALLAH (The god, God Almighty, The only true God).

MightySparrow:
How did Allah appear to Mohammed as Allah and not YHWH?

haekymbahd:
Same way he appeared to Moses as ALLAH. It was Moses who asked him for his specific name he didn't intend to tell Moses his name either else he would have just appeared to Moses too as ALLAH, Muhammad on the other hand didn't ask for his specific name just as Abraham, Isaac, Jacob did.

Exodus 3
6. Moreover He said, “I am the God of your father—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon God.

13. Then Moses said to God, “Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?”

Exodus 6
3. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God Almighty, but by My name Lord I was not known to them.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says:

"And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.""
(QS. Al-Ankaboot 29: Verse 46)

If you ever wondered why he appeared to Muhammad as ALLAH and not YHWH then you should also ponder on why he appeared to Abraham as God Almighty and not YHWH.

MightySparrow:
Give evidence not rhetorics.

haekymbahd:
Evidence of what if I may ask?

I just told you that YHWH is ALLAH what evidence do you want again and I cited from the bible and Quran. If you ask how Allah appeared to Muhammad then you first have to understand that

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says:

"And it is not for any human being that Allah should speak to him except by revelation or from behind a partition or that He sends a messenger to reveal, by His permission, what He wills. Indeed, He is Most High and Wise."
(QS. Ash-Shura 42: Verse 51)

"And thus We have revealed to you an inspiration of Our command. You did not know what is the Book or [what is] faith, but We have made it a light by which We guide whom We will of Our servants. And indeed, [O Muhammad], you guide to a straight path -"
(QS. Ash-Shura 42: Verse 52)

* Muhammad went on a night journey called isra wal miraj where he met the previous prophets and he spoke with Allah.

* Muhammad received dreams and inspiration from Allah

* Allah sent down the Pure spirit to reveal his book (Quran) to muhammad.

Inside the same revealed book Allah says

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says: 

"Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One,"
(QS. Al-Ikhlaas 112: Verse 1)

"He is Allah (God), the Creator, the Inventor, the Fashioner; to Him belong the best names. Whatever is in the heavens and earth is exalting Him. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise."
(QS. Al-Hashr 59: Verse 24)

MightySparrow:
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Allah has two hands on his right hands, YHWH is a spirit that cannot be seen.

haekymbahd:
Matthew 22
44. ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool” ’?

but the bible says Jesus is sitting at the right hand of YHWH does that means YHWH isn't a spirit?

I want to ask does YHWH has a left hand or only righthand?

MightySparrow:
Allah has two hands on it's right side. Is Allah a spirit or an idol?

haekymbahd:
Psalms 44
3. For they did not gain possession of the land by their own sword, Nor did their own arm save them; But it was Your right hand, Your arm, and the light of Your countenance, Because You favored them.

The answer to that lies in the answer you give to this question below:
1. Since YHWH has a right hand is YHWH a spirit or an Idol?


2. Does YHWH have a left hand or is it only right hand?

Mind you Angels and Demons are spirits do they have hands?

MightySparrow:
YHWH has a right hand, Allah has two right hands. They are not the same. Allah is not YHWH; YHWH is not Allah.
YHWH is the God of Israel; Allah is the god of qurash people.
Allah means 'the god'
YHWH means I' AM THAT IAM'
Allah has three daughters; YHWH has only one begotten Son.

Is it by force to forge iron an plastic?

Allah lives in ka'aba; YHWH lives in heaven.

MightySparrow:
YHWH has a right hand, Allah has two right hands. They are not the same. Allah is not YHWH; YHWH is not Allah.

MightySparrow:
YHWH is the God of Israel; Allah is the god of qurash people.

MightySparrow:
Allah means 'the god'
YHWH means I' AM THAT IAM'

MightySparrow:
Allah has three daughters; YHWH has only one begotten Son.

MightySparrow:
Is it by force to forge iron an plastic?

MightySparrow:
Allah lives in ka'aba; YHWH lives in heaven.

haekymbahd:
There is no proof that YHWH doesn't have 2 right hands, YHWH is ALLAH

Psalms 74
11. Why do You withdraw Your hand, even Your right hand? Take it out of Your bosom and destroy them.

Allah is the God of Israel also Allah is the God of the world and the heavens
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says:

"O Children of Israel, remember My favor which I have bestowed upon you and fulfill My covenant [upon you] that I will fulfill your covenant [from Me], and be afraid of [only] Me."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 40)

"And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds."
(QS. Al-Anbiyaa 21: Verse 107)

Yes you are right Allah means the God and YHWH means I AM THAT I AM.

The Arabic word “Allah” (اللّٰه) literally means “The God” — that is, the one and only true God, God Almighty.

The issue is I don't need to prove to you that ALLAH (God Almighty) is YHWH. You are the one to prove that YHWH is God Almighty..

Exodus 6
3. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God Almighty, but by My name Lord I was not known to them.

Why don't you listen to what Allah says about himself why give him daughters to make you happy.

Allah has no daughters nor begotten son.

Let me ask you a question does YHWH has only Sons and not daughters. In the bible Isreal, Jesus, Angels, believers are all refered to as sons of God are they female.

Is Mary the mother of Jesus also son of God or are the female Christians in your family or church also sons of God.

How can you call a female "son of God" how can you call a Nation Isreal as son of God is it a human being?

What I am driving at is that the term "son of God" is a metaphor not to be taken literally Jesus is not the only son of God in the bible..

Exodus 4
22. Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the Lord: “Israel is My son, My firstborn.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says:
 
"And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken a son." Exalted is He! Rather, they are [but] honored servants."
(QS. Al-Anbiyaa 21: Verse 26)

Allah had corrected you in the Quran that the term son of God is a metaphor used to honour is servants.

Sons of God is synonymous to servants of God.

it is not by force but like I said earlier God Almighty (Allah) doesn't need to prove that he is YHWH rather YHWH is the one who needs to prove that he is God Almighty (Allah)

Exodus 6
3. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God Almighty, but by My name aLord I was not known to them.

You decide where Allah lives with your mouth whereas he told where lives yet you turned deaf hears

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says:

"Indeed, your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in six days and then established Himself above the Throne. He covers the night with the day, [another night] chasing it rapidly; and [He created] the sun, the moon, and the stars, subjected by His command. Unquestionably, His is the creation and the command; blessed is Allah, Lord of the worlds."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 54)

MightySparrow:
And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds."
(QS. Al-Anbiyaa 21: Verse 107)


Mention five (5) deeds of mercy that Mohammed did.

haekymbahd:
Muhammad was a just a warner sent by God who was tasked with role of bringing true worship back after previous generations have strayed by corrupting the word of God and attributing what is not of God to God. Hence he was a mercy to the world sent to save the new generations from the lies fed to them by their fathers that they may escape the wrath of God and enjoy his mercy.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says:
"By Allah, We did certainly send [messengers] to nations before you, but Satan made their deeds attractive to them. And he is the disbelievers' ally today [as well], and they will have a painful punishment."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 63)

"And We have not revealed to you the Book, [O Muhammad], except for you to make clear to them that wherein they have differed and as guidance and mercy for a people who believe."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 64)

MightySparrow:
1. How did Mohammed warn people

MightySparrow:
2. Mention five deeds of mercy that Mohammed do.

haekymbahd:
Muhammads duty was only to notify people of their errors.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says:

"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 125)

"And if you punish [an enemy, O believers], punish with an equivalent of that with which you were harmed. But if you are patient - it is better for those who are patient."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 126)


It is not about the mercy of Muhammad but that of Allah. The reason for the sending of Muhammad is an act of mercy from Allah. To return true worship back to God and save mankind from the wrath of God. If this isn't mercy then what is?

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says:
"By Allah, We did certainly send [messengers] to nations before you, but Satan made their deeds attractive to them. And he is the disbelievers' ally today [as well], and they will have a painful punishment."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 63)

"And We have not revealed to you the Book, [O Muhammad], except for you to make clear to them that wherein they have differed and as guidance and mercy for a people who believe."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 64)