₦airaland Forum

DomPerignon:
Are you dense?

Sharia law and courts are embedded in our constitution and existed in northern Nigeria prior to the Ibo coup that dismantled regional governments.

Even a British colonial officer had to seek a permit on '' health '' grounds to get licence to consume alcohol in the fundamentalist islamist north.

Sharia law has existed in the north for centuries prior to colonialism and the British respected the system . At independence, there was still sharia laws and courts until military rule .

It was in 1978 during the drafting of a new - the 1979 constitution, that sharia was then included again.

Military rule which preferred military tribunals and marshal laws saw sharia take a back seat.

Then in 1998, the revised 1979 constitution was passed which we know today as the 1999 constitution.

Your ignorance is you see military juntas suspending the constitution and courts as excuse of sharia being a new thing when it goes back centuries in the north.

Now explain how you that suddenly began wearing clothes as late as 1960, can dictate to northern Muslims?

DavidMm:
Are we back to regional government? Sharia as it were was never the issue, rather Sharia post 1999 is the issue. The codification and extension of sharia into criminal matters beyond the civil and personal matters, as were customary is what is illegal.

They promised it would only be enforced on adherents of the islamic faith but we all know today that that is not the case.

safarifarms:
Why are you people so obsessed with the South East?
Yoruba man Sowere will start a protest against bad governance and you people will call it Igbo protest.
Trump threatens action against Christian genocide, you blame South East people when its actually the real victims in Benue that wrote US through the current INEC chairman.

What exactly your problem with the South East people?

Thank God I'm not from the South East. Tough to be hated for no reason.

DomPerignon:
Let me educate you now that Emirs in the north have remand powers and also act as judges.

The Emirs also have limited powers in granting pardons depending on the crime.

Northern Nigeria no be your mate.

They have had a well structured educated and literate civilization longer than you can phantom.

They had indigenous architecture, built cities and had all the institutions of what a modern state have including a standing army.

I don't know where you guys who stopped swinging from trees in just a hundred years can assume you can dictate to the north.

How nah?

DavidMm:
This line of reasoning is what is causing us these problems today. You talk about the North as if the christians and non muslims in the north don't have a right to live free of hindrance from a religion they do not subscribe to, as enshrined in the constitution of the nation! Or do you not accept the Supremacy of the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria? And yet, you come out and deny the accusation leveled against us!

Go and read up on what it means to be a member of federation. Rights and Responsibility of Federating states and all the illegality you've been perpetrating would become apparent to you. And if you don't have the time or mental capacity to, then please and please, go run some unending errands, before your ignorance does irreparable damages on "The North"!

DomPerignon:
Alcohol is banned irrespective of religion .

Which part of this do you not understand ?

And outside alcohol and drug use , which other sharia law discriminates against Christians ?

Or has alcohol consumption a part of christian custom ?

DavidMm:
Alcohol is banned irrespective of religion--You just admitted to persecuting people of other faith by this simple statement! So because your religion forbids it, you are forbidding it for others, whether they agree or not. And most importantly, because you have a majority in the state house of Assembly, you are going to make it a law even if it violates the constitution. And you are going to create and fund an enforcement arm to shove it down the throat of everyone in that state against the constitutional provision the safeguards them against such. And you are going to make sure the FG does not intervene by putting like minded people in positions across the Ministry of Justice and the security agencies.

I think we need to include the studies of Citizens' rights under the constitution into our academic program from early age. A lot of people don't seem to understand their rights, where it starts and ends and where thers' begin under the constitution.

DomPerignon:
I have asked you severally here to outline which law in sharia code that discriminates against Christians .

Mention just one.

FYI, I am a southerner and a christian and I see your misplaced cho cho over what is going on in the Muslim majority north as undue interference and total intolerance.

Mention to me also why sharia is barbaric but your voodoo shrines you all troop to is better.

DomPerignon:
When has alcohol consumption being integral to practicing Christianity ?

Pls educate me.

DavidMm:
When has alcohol consumption being integral to practicing Christianity ? whether it does or doesn't is irrelevant!

DomPerignon:
If it is irrelevant , then how is it infringing on the rights of others to practice their religion ?

And if there's no discrimination alongside religion , how then does it infringe on constitutional rights of any citizen ?

The real bigot and intolerant being here is you who for some reason hate Islam and Muslims.

Why not stay out of their states and affairs?

Christistruth00:
Do you realise that even the US the no 1 democracy on Earth was the product of Conquest ?


I am replying your letter that said Nigeria was not created by consultation.

In 1963 Nigeria founding fathers agreed for Nigeria to be a Federal Republic and
It was your Father Azikiwe who Championed that agreement


Go and drag your case with him

Azikiwe agreed to the Federal Republic of Nigeria on your behalf

DomPerignon:
If it is irrelevant , then how is it infringing on the rights of others to practice their religion ?

And if there's no discrimination alongside religion , how then does it infringe on constitutional rights of any citizen ?

The real bigot and intolerant being here is you who for some reason hate Islam and Muslims.

Why not stay out of their states and affairs?

PappyMason:
Europe turns their back on the Jews and denounce their christian heritage and embrace islam and arab culture
Germany killed 6 million Jews and Merkel promotes anti semitism and wants to import 7 million batshit insane muslims.


Mention me when sharia law is established across Europe.

PappyMason:
Muslim filth

PappyMason:
When Uthman Dan Fodio was ravaging northern Nigeria was it in response to America invading Iraq?

When Maitassine uprising began was it because of George Bush invading Afghanistan?

You muslims need not blame anybody for your foolishness or look for excuses to give anymore. We know the root of this nonsense lies in your demonic doctrine.

Why is Shekau killing his fellow nationals because of Iraq?

safarifarms:
I didn't even read the attached letter. But it was written by one of your APC member who has now been appointed INEC chair. If he talked about how Nigeria was created, then its even more interesting that one of your own is bringing that up.

And how is Azikiwe from the South East my father? Is he the father of all Nigerians?

DavidMm:
Brother please don't take this the wrong way because I do really trust you want the best for our country and trying to understand things as best as you can; I do however think you lack the capacity to grasp constitutional logicism. So with all due respect, please go run some errands, while the NSA and others play the game of "gives" and "takes", to forestall any violation of our sovereignty by a power we cannot challenge to fight.

Christistruth00:
Brush up your reading skills

DavidMm:
While I do not know how we will undo the constitutional anomaly of having a "country within a country", that the extension of Sharia law beyond civil into criminal matters created; The Presidency, through the ONSA should immediately order the disbandment of all HISBAH Corps in all the 12 Northern States that have adopted Sharia Law for the reasons below.


1. Enforcement of Shari'a on Non-Muslims

While Shari'a penal codes in Nigeria are theoretically only applicable to Muslims, Hisbah brigades have been documented attempting to enforce aspects of the law on non-Muslims, including Christians.

Morality and Dress Codes: Christians, particularly women, have reported being harassed and stopped by Hisbah officers for allegedly not conforming to Islamic dress or moral codes while in public spaces. In some cases, they are reportedly told to dress like Muslims.

Alcohol Ban: The Hisbah often strictly enforces the state-wide ban on the sale and consumption of alcohol, which disproportionately affects Christians and other non-Muslim communities who consume it. They have carried out raids in non-Muslim areas.

Public Activities: Hisbah has attempted to disrupt or ban public gatherings or rallies organized by non-Muslim groups, viewing them as "un-Islamic."

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2. Creating an Environment of Fear and Secondary Citizenship

The presence and activities of the Hisbah contribute to an overall sense of being treated as second-class citizens among Christians in the region.

Informal Authority: While the Hisbah's legal jurisdiction is often limited, their presence as a state-sanctioned morality police creates a chilling effect, where Christians and other minorities feel compelled to comply with Islamic precepts out of fear of harassment, arrest, or detention, even when such actions are beyond the Hisbah's legal authority.

The Hisbah have become a persecutory force for both Christians and non muslims in these states. And as such, the Federal Government ought to show the world that they are capable of stepping in to right a wrong, if state and local policies becomes discriminatory, and or, prosecutory for a segment of the population.

DavidMm:
My guess is that is what would happen if the FGN disbanded Hisbah in its current form. They will go back to the drawing board and after much dialogue, it will be reorganized in its limited role as it was originally intended. WIN-WIN-WIN for everyone. The non adherents of the religion win because they can live their lives without hindrance from a religion that is not theirs. The adherents win because they get continue being govern by the laws they want. And the FG gets to show the world that they would do the needful to protect the rights of every citizen within its sovereign borders. Low Hanging fruit!