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Till now can anyone please tell me one good thing about Islam or Muhammad according to Quran

Almunjid:
I understand that my previous write-up may have hurt you deeply, and for that, I apologize. I empathize with your feelings. This is the kind of misunderstanding that Muslims often face here every day, especially because of a few unscrupulous individuals claiming to be jihadists—leading many to wrongly condemn all of us.

You are correct when you say that children receive an automatic ticket to heaven because they are pure of heart and innocent, and God would not punish them for sins they know nothing about. My earlier response was based on my experiences with Christian preachers in my youth, who would preach that if we failed to believe Jesus died for our sins or accept him, we were destined for hell. I remember wondering what I had done at such a young age to earn God’s anger, and that His peace could only come if I accepted Jesus. As Muslims, we believe in Jesus but regard him as a prophet, and our judgment will be by Jehovah, who sent Jesus—not by man.

Regarding your opinion about destiny, I believe you are mistaken because destiny is real. Much of what happens on earth is already predestined by the Creator. This explains why some individuals can foresee events and make prophecies. Do you think anything truly new happens in God’s eyes? Everything is simply unfolding according to His will. God’s plan for your life is your destiny. As the Quran says, "Man proposes, and God disposes" (Quran 76:30). Similarly, the Bible states in Proverbs 16:9, "In their hearts humans plan their course, but the Lord establishes their steps." Even Jesus himself had to submit to God’s will (Matthew 26:39). Isaiah 46:10 also states: "I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please." So, God is not watching new things unfold—His plan is simply being realized.

More broadly, what you are and everything about you has been destined by God. This is why sorcerers sometimes seem to know intimate details about your life, your identity, and your future. They are not supernatural beings but are reading signs that God has already written—for example, some believe that much of our life’s path is written on our palms, although few can interpret it. With spiritual knowledge (ilmu ruhani), even a little information such as your name and your mother’s name can reveal much about your past, present, and future (though such practices are forbidden in Islam). They can describe many life events, including details about your spouse and children.

As for whether one is destined for heaven or hell, Islam teaches that much is already recorded about you. God has predestined many aspects of life—only a few are within our control. The Bible echoes this in Romans 8:29-30: "For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son... And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified."

What can change our destiny? Only the One who predestined it can change it—when we pray sincerely and He answers, our destiny may be altered according to His will.


Shalom!

Islam to me is like a counterfeit projected as more than real.

I will pick you up on two issues
1. Destiny in Islam is Illogical!
Destiny is a preordination of EVERYTHING about man including his choices, thinking and deeds.

Unfortunately, if this is TRUE then Allah is UNJUST!

If Allah determined those who will go to paradise and those who goes to hell even before they were born, then Islam is false.

2. Salvation in Islam is impossible
If Destiny is true, then salvation is independent of mans actions.
Is it untrue that sinless Muslim Babies in Islam may even go to hell fire?
How much more the adult sinful Muslim.



The the biggest problem of Muslims is Trinity unfortunately they do not understand that Taoheed is an insult to the Creator of Everything Unfortunately, Muslims have to misrepresent Trinity to sell their Taoheed.

Any Muslim that is after the Truth will become an Ex-Muslim with immediate effect after adopting the TRUTH.

The truth indeed set people free!

SisterAnn:
They have sinned and come short of the glory of God. They turned a blind eye while christians are being targeted for extinction in northern Nigeria.

Hope you aren't carried away by trump

I'm not against what he said about nigeria Christian recently

But no politician is doing the will of God

Luckysbab:
Islam is to submit entirely to the will of the Supreme Being, regardless of the appellation it used to be known as.

Like in the time of Abraham, that was described as Hanif.

It seems you don't know the meaning of Islam sir.


Islam is to surrender to both Allah and Mohammed!

This is why your shahada involves both Allah and Mohammed!

If you doubt:
What is the Sharia for blasphemy against Mohammed?
What is the Sharia for blasphemy against Allah?




Abraham worshipped YHWH!
Is there an iota of evidence that any of the 99 names of Allah is YHWH?

Miosofune:
Let me correct you;
Islam had existed long before the existence of our dear lovely Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W). The prohet only came to teach and spread Islam to the people in attestation to what the previous (other) prophets had brought to the people. Every human being is born as a Muslim. For this, Burn Boy didn't converted but reverted because he was born as a Muslims only his parent changed it after child birth.

Muslims with Untruths are five and six


Please answer these questions:
1. Are Jews also Muslims?
2. Why is it that some sinless Muslim babies will go to hell?

Almunjid:
I understand that my previous write-up may have hurt you deeply, and for that, I apologize. I empathize with your feelings. This is the kind of misunderstanding that Muslims often face here every day, especially because of a few unscrupulous individuals claiming to be jihadists—leading many to wrongly condemn all of us.

You are correct when you say that children receive an automatic ticket to heaven because they are pure of heart and innocent, and God would not punish them for sins they know nothing about. My earlier response was based on my experiences with Christian preachers in my youth, who would preach that if we failed to believe Jesus died for our sins or accept him, we were destined for hell. I remember wondering what I had done at such a young age to earn God’s anger, and that His peace could only come if I accepted Jesus. As Muslims, we believe in Jesus but regard him as a prophet, and our judgment will be by Jehovah, who sent Jesus—not by man.

Regarding your opinion about destiny, I believe you are mistaken because destiny is real. Much of what happens on earth is already predestined by the Creator. This explains why some individuals can foresee events and make prophecies. Do you think anything truly new happens in God’s eyes? Everything is simply unfolding according to His will. God’s plan for your life is your destiny. As the Quran says, "Man proposes, and God disposes" (Quran 76:30). Similarly, the Bible states in Proverbs 16:9, "In their hearts humans plan their course, but the Lord establishes their steps." Even Jesus himself had to submit to God’s will (Matthew 26:39). Isaiah 46:10 also states: "I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please." So, God is not watching new things unfold—His plan is simply being realized.

More broadly, what you are and everything about you has been destined by God. This is why sorcerers sometimes seem to know intimate details about your life, your identity, and your future. They are not supernatural beings but are reading signs that God has already written—for example, some believe that much of our life’s path is written on our palms, although few can interpret it. With spiritual knowledge (ilmu ruhani), even a little information such as your name and your mother’s name can reveal much about your past, present, and future (though such practices are forbidden in Islam). They can describe many life events, including details about your spouse and children.

As for whether one is destined for heaven or hell, Islam teaches that much is already recorded about you. God has predestined many aspects of life—only a few are within our control. The Bible echoes this in Romans 8:29-30: "For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son... And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified."

What can change our destiny? Only the One who predestined it can change it—when we pray sincerely and He answers, our destiny may be altered according to His will.


Shalom!

Leave bible out of it because u simply cherry picking to suit your Islamic narrative.

The definition of destiny and God being all knowing is d
Different in the bible.

The thought God has for mankind is a good destiny.

Jeremiah 29.11
11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.

God harbours no evil destiny for anybody. It's left for u to heed his call.

Now let's check Allah...

If destiny is unchanged, then explain to me....

A prostitute who was killed by her client, is that the destiny Allah willed for her. Is that how Allah willed she would die even before she was born?

An armed robber who was killed while in action. Is that how Allah willed his destiny. So are u telling me before he was born, Allah already willed it that he would be killed as an armed robber?

Pls answer the above questions, I don't want any waffling.

Alihamdulillah Rabili Alameen. May Allah keep his feet in the religion of Islam and continue to bless him as well as the generality of Muslim faithful Aameen.

TenQ:
You are not getting the point.

It is NOT God's intention to Create Dumb Robots!
God created Free willed Agents for His own purpose.

God knows that in this multitude, there will be those who will use their Volition to Choose Independence from Him and there would be others who will choose to be dependent on Him.

The Earth is a place of Selection!


God's Omniscience let Him know that His objectives will be Achieved in humans.

You did not answer my question
1.Would you admit that the highest creation of an AI robot will be one that can act independently of your input?

2. If you made 1000 such super AI robots and only 50 choose to live according to human rules, what do you think should be done with the remaining 950?

The Answer to Question 1 is a Y or N
Which is higher between a Dummy Robot or an Autonomous Robot?

We'll be going back and forth with this argument. The fact that you don't know God, what he is or what he looks like, except from the pictures painted by the White man, but claim to somehow know what he or she thinks, makes ur argument flawed.

You don't even know the intention of the person sitting close to you right now, and you claim u know the intention of a diety you're not sure of his or her existence.

To your question:

If l created a robot for the sole purpose of dishwashing, but the robot, instead of dishwashing, went on to try and fix the electricity in my house(acting independently) and consequently set the house on fire, then I have failed woefully as the programmer.

So, no, the highest creation of an AI robot is one that was created to perform a specific task and it does it satisfactorily.

TenQ:
Is this because you have no answers for my response?


God is the Eternal Spirit and He made us in His image as eternal spirits with freewill who will rule over the physical universe!

This is what it means that God made us in His image.

Don't we make Robots in our Image?
Does that mean that they have flesh and blood like us? No!



Deep Science show that God must exist whether you like not or not.

But I can prove it to you:
1. Can order come out of disorder without an external constraints?
2. Is the Universe eternal?
3. Is Entropy of the Universe increasing or decreasing?
4. Scientifically, can a System spontaneously exist?

All these point to the fact that
An Uncaused-First-Cause is the cause of the Universe and this Uncaused-First-Cause must be necessity be Everything and Everywhere.
He must be conscious because you are conscious!

God is a SPIRIT (Reach|Hebrew) sir!

Do you agree that
The Building is EVIDENCE of a Builder
Then the Universe is the Evidence of an Entity we call God!

Think about this!




You are wrong sir!
Adam and Eve knew what was good and what was not.

Gen 3:6:
"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasing to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate."

The meaning of the Examination of Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil is to Be INDEPENDENT from God.
God will no more be the Source of the Knowledge of what is Good and What is Evil BUT themselves.

Adam and Eve declared their INDEPENDENCE from God by eating of the Tree.

Science is still evolving, and in the years to come there might be answers to these questions. But for now, they're still no proof of a God. You can't just say because u have no answers to these questions now, then it has to be God.

As for Adam and Eve. Your Bible said they were naked when God created them and they didn't know until they ate the fruit.

The fruit was pleasant to Eve does not mean she knew what was good or evil. Besides, she only thought about the fruit because a serpent convinced her.

The serpent stuff is a story for another day.

"God will no more be the Source of the Knowledge of what is Good and What is Evil BUT themselves."

Where did this come from? Or is it one of those statements u guys make to excuse God?

If God was the source of knowledge of what is Good and What is bad, can we say the serpent convincing Eve to eat the fruit was an extension of God's evil?

Cuz before they ate the fruit there was no evil?

So how was the serpent able to know that the fruit was going to expose them to knowledge?

Nteogwuija:
We'll be going back and forth with this argument. The fact that you don't know God, what he is or what he looks like, except from the pictures painted by the White man, but claim to somehow know what he or she thinks, makes ur argument flawed.

as usual when the atheist black man gets stuck, he resorts to help from his own god- the white man.
show me where the bible said God has a physical body that can be painted.
so u left christianity because the white man painted an image and called him god? is that why u left christianity

Nteogwuija:
You don't even know the intention of the person sitting close to you right now, and you claim u know the intention of a diety you're not sure of his or her existence.

God revealed his existence to us in his words. check the bible, u will find God.
That's how u know Him; and unlike Man, he never lies. Whatever he says about himself is the truth.

Nteogwuija:
To your question:

If l created a robot for the sole purpose of dishwashing, but the robot, instead of dishwashing, went on to try and fix the electricity in my house(acting independently) and consequently set the house on fire, then I have failed woefully as the programmer.

So, no, the highest creation of an AI robot is one that was created to perform a specific task and it does it satisfactorily.

The question is did u write the code with the option of choice for the robot or the robot was specifically coded for dishwashing and must never disobey that command.

God wasn't disappointed when Man disobeyed Him because he already knew that could happen. Man's genetic makeup was coded with the option to choose.

Ekrenji:
How can everyone be born a Muslim when Islam was only founded in the 7th century by Mohammed? The words “Muslim”, “Islam” did not exist before that time

Modified:
Mohammed is the founder of Islam.
There is no evidence that Islam or Muslims existed before Mohammed.
The period in Arabian before Mohammed formed Islam was referred to as “pre Islamic period of ignorance “

Believing in oneness of God and believing in all prophets means you are a Muslim , Islam has been in existence since existence that’s why you will see all these prophets before Muhammad only preach oneness of Almighty God including Jesus, Jesus will be accountable for you guys calling him God while there’s only one God

Nteogwuija:
We'll be going back and forth with this argument. The fact that you don't know God, what he is or what he looks like, except from the pictures painted by the White man, but claim to somehow know what he or she thinks, makes ur argument flawed.

You don't even know the intention of the person sitting close to you right now, and you claim u know the intention of a diety you're not sure of his or her existence.

You assume too much. How can you project your own ignorance of God on others. The fact that you do not know God is not the same for others.

God is a SPIRIT!
And I sure do know Him.
I live in Him and He lives in Me.

Sorry that it's not the same for you.

Nteogwuija:
To your question:

You did NOT answer my questions.

Nteogwuija:
If l created a robot for the sole purpose of dishwashing, but the robot, instead of dishwashing, went on to try and fix the electricity in my house(acting independently) and consequently set the house on fire, then I have failed woefully as the programmer.

This example of yours would be a dumb robot isn't it?
Is this the best you can make?

Even goats and cows are fulfilling their designed functions: to eat, grow, reproduce, die and become food to others. There isn't anything higher than this for them. Even at this, they are much higher than any dumb robots.

The sun, the moon and other stars are performing their designed functions without fail.

However, you as human was created with a higher purpose. You are among others supposed to be an executor of God's will on earth who chooses to be dependent upon God for his choice and acts of good and evil.

The difference: your free will to ACCEPT or REJECT God and His will.

Nteogwuija:
So, no, the highest creation of an AI robot is one that was created to perform a specific task and it does it satisfactorily.

Meaning that it is a dumb robot without a will of its own.

Sorry, the highest of creation would be an Autonomous Self Conscious Creation except you have chosen to align yourself with self induced falsehood.

What you are saying is that an Encyclopedia is SUPERIOR to AI chatbot like ChatGPT or Grok or DeepSeek.

I guess that your problem is that you can't fathom how you can override even God here on earth: it is called the gift of VOLITION! Volition is fake if constrained against its exercise
How do you expect to mischoose without consequences for your wilful decisions?

SIRTee15:
as usual when the atheist black man gets stuck, he resorts to help from his own god- the white man.
show me where the bible said God has a physical body that can be painted.
so u left christianity because the white man painted an image and called him god? is that why u left christianity


God revealed his existence to us in his words. check the bible, u will find God.
That's how u know Him; and unlike Man, he never lies. Whatever he says about himself is the truth.



The question is did u write the code with the option of choice for the robot or the robot was specifically coded for dishwashing and must never disobey that command.

God wasn't disappointed when Man disobeyed Him because he already knew that could happen. Man's genetic makeup was coded with the option to choose.

Lol, there's no where I said I was an atheist.

Secondly, it's fascinating how you guys talk like u were there when God supposedly create man.

Your Bible said God commanded Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit. And then you come around to say God gave man freewill.

You said he already knew what will happen.

Well that's funny. I'm sure you won't be disappointed if you kept a beautiful burning candle in front of your toddler and she goes on to touch and gets burnt.

If God wasn't surprised by Adam and Eve eating the fruit, don't you think that God knew man was going to self destruct but he or she still went ahead to add that feature in man that'd make him self destruct?

Why build a thing when u know it's going to fail? Isn't that folly?

Nteogwuija:
Science is still evolving, and in the years to come there might be answers to these questions. But for now, they're still no proof of a God. You can't just say because u have no answers to these questions now, then it has to be God.

So, your source of authority is still evolving!?
Your source of authority doesn't have answers!?
SMH!

Nteogwuija:
As for Adam and Eve. Your Bible said they were naked when God created them and they didn't know until they ate the fruit.

The fruit was pleasant to Eve does not mean she knew what was good or evil. Besides, she only thought about the fruit because a serpent convinced her.

The serpent stuff is a story for another day.

Nteogwuija:
"God will no more be the Source of the Knowledge of what is Good and What is Evil BUT themselves."

Where did this come from? Or is it one of those statements u guys make to excuse God?

If God was the source of knowledge of what is Good and What is bad, can we say the serpent convincing Eve to eat the fruit was an extension of God's evil?

Cuz before they ate the fruit there was no evil?

So how was the serpent able to know that the fruit was going to expose them to knowledge?

Were Adam and Eve dumb before they eat of the tree?

Was the outcome of eating of the fruit positive or negative?

Where was the Serpent AFTER they eat of the tree?






I see that you have no intellectual basis for answering my previous questions. Otherwise, you would have paused to think that scientifically

The Evidence for a Builder is a Building
Just as
The Evidence for God is the Universe.





Finally:
IF you cannot give me an intelligent answer for the course of the existence of Space, Time and Matter, you will be wasting my precious time

TenQ:
So, your source of authority is still evolving!?
Your source of authority doesn't have answers!?
SMH!








Were Adam and Eve dumb before they eat of the tree?

Was the outcome of eating of the fruit positive or negative?

Where was the Serpent AFTER they eat of the tree?






I see that you have no intellectual basis for answering my previous questions. Otherwise, you would have paused to think that scientifically

The Evidence for a Builder is a Building
Just as
The Evidence for God is the Universe.





Finally:
IF you cannot give me an intelligent answer for the course of the existence of Space, Time and Matter, you will be wasting my precious time

I'm not saying anything on authority. I'm simply saying that just because there's a gap in our knowledge today, then the answer is God.

If you have proof beyond doubt, it's left for u to tender them and end the argument.

Lol, so if the Evidence of the Universe is God, then how did God come about?

Or you want to say the concept of no something out of nothing ends when u place God in the equation?

If you're saying the universe can't be on its own. What's stopping someone else from saying the God of the gaps can't be on his or her own?

Or should we patent that notion to the Christians, so that we can all agree that whenever a Christian says the Universe can't stand on its own, that it has to be God, and it's final?

Let's all accept that the source of singularity is the Christian God, and nothing was before him or her.

You see why I say we'd just keep going back and forth.

See

Nteogwuija:
I'm not saying anything on authority. I'm simply saying that just because there's a gap in our knowledge today, then the answer is God.

If you have proof beyond doubt, it's left for u to tender them and end the argument.

Lol, so if the Evidence of the Universe is God, then how did God come about?

Or you want to say the concept of no something out of nothing ends when u place God in the equation?

You see why I say we'd just keep going back and forth.

You still don't get it.
For the universe to exist, there must be an Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything. There is no other way. This Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything is the Personality called God



So, give me your own superior intelligent answer for the cause of the existence of Space, Time and Matter other than God!


Is this a difficult question as I want to learn from you

TenQ:
See
You still don't get it.
For the universe to exist, there must be an Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything. There is no other way. This Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything is the Personality called God



So, give me your own superior intelligent answer for the cause of the existence of Space, Time and Matter other than God!


Is this a difficult question as I want to learn from you

Lol, I guess you have a proof that the uncaused first cause is God.

Like I said, science is still evolving. The things we thought were impossible 20yrs ago now looks like childs play. I'm more of an open minded person with a simple mind, that's y I tend to accept proof against general knowledge, or should I say dogma, without scientific backing.

If a scientific report came out in the future, while I'm still alive, and says they've discovered the truth about the universe and its God who owns the universe, who am I to object. If it says something else, still, who am I to object?

Until then, I stay open minded.

Nteogwuija:
Lol, I guess you have a proof that the uncaused first cause is God.

Like I said, science is still evolving. The things we thought were impossible 20yrs ago now looks like childs play. I'm more of an open minded person with a simple mind, that's y I tend to accept proof against general knowledge, or should I say dogma, without scientific backing.

If a scientific report came out in the future, while I'm still alive, and says they've discovered the truth about the universe and its God who owns the universe, who am I to object. If it says something else, still, who am I to object?

Until then, I stay open minded.

Meaning that you've got NOTHING other than a hope and wish that God doesn't exist.

Good luck!

You do t know the Answer BUT you have arguments against God as the final answer!?

TenQ:
It seems you don't know the meaning of Islam sir.


Islam is to surrender to both Allah and Mohammed!

This is why your shahada involves both Allah and Mohammed!

If you doubt:
What is the Sharia for blasphemy against Mohammed?
What is the Sharia for blasphemy against Allah?




Abraham worshipped YHWH!
Is there an iota of evidence that any of the 99 names of Allah is YHWH?

Imagine an olodo trying to teach a Muslim what Islam is about.

The audacity to try and constitute an authority over a subject you don't know about is crazy.

Nteogwuija:
Lol, there's no where I said I was an atheist.

U said u left christainity and doubted the existence of a supreme deity. Sir, that makes u an atheist.

Nteogwuija:
Secondly, it's fascinating how you guys talk like u were there when God supposedly create man.

I already told u, God revealed himself in his scriptures. It's called the BIBLE.

And because God never lies, I believe whatever he says about Himself in the bible

Nteogwuija:
Your Bible said God commanded Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit. And then you come around to say God gave man freewill.

do u understand freewill? I hope u know freewill or choice doesn't negate instructions or existence of laws. the reason we have laws is because of freewill.
If there's no freewill, there will be no need for laws because every human being will do the same thing over and over again.

Nteogwuija:
You said he already knew what will happen.

Well that's funny. I'm sure you won't be disappointed if you kept a beautiful burning candle in front of your toddler and she goes on to touch and gets burnt.

comparing creator to parenthood is absurd. I didnt create my child, I didn't codify his genetic makeup. Therefore, I dont know how my child will react in front of burning candle. The responsible thing to do is to think for my child and remove all dangers. I don't have the power to correct any injury as a result of exposure to danger.

Nteogwuija:
If God wasn't surprised by Adam and Eve eating the fruit, don't you think that God knew man was going to self destruct but he or she still went ahead to add that feature in man that'd make him self destruct?

God didn't create humanity to self destruct, man choose to self destruct. The power of choice is useless if there's no other option to choose from or there's only one decision to make all the time. How can u say Man has a choice if there's no alternative option.

Nteogwuija:
Why build a thing when u know it's going to fail? Isn't that folly?

How did humanity fail? If u mean separation from God, the process of redemption started right there in the garden.
I think u asking the wrong question.
The right question u should be asking is why did God create Man in the first place. The answer will help to understand why Man has a choice.
God would have had no need to create Man if he wasn't going to have a choice.

SIRTee15:
U said u left christainity and doubted the existence of a supreme deity. Sir, that makes u an atheist.

I already told u, God revealed himself in his scriptures. It's called the BIBLE.

And because God never lies, I believe whatever he says about Himself in the bible

do u understand freewill? I hope u know freewill or choice doesn't negate instructions or existence of laws. the reason we have laws is because of freewill.
If there's no freewill, there will be no need for laws because every human being will do the same thing over and over again.

comparing creator to parenthood is absurd. I didnt create my child, I didn't codify his genetic makeup. Therefore, I dont know how my child will react in front of burning candle. The responsible thing to do is to think for my child and remove all dangers. I don't have the power to correct any injury as a result of exposure to danger.

God didn't create humanity to self destruct, man choose to self destruct. The power of choice is useless if there's no other option to choose from or there's only one decision to make all the time. How can u say Man has a choice if there's no alternative option.



How did humanity fail? If u mean separation from God, the process of redemption started right there in the garden.
I think u asking the wrong question.
The right question u should be asking is why did God create Man in the first place. The answer will help to understand why Man has a choice.
God would have had no need to create Man if he wasn't going to have a choice.

So you mean God created man, gave him freewill and still destroyed them in Sodom and Gomorrah for exercising the freewill he gave them, and is still destroying in hell?

And by the way, how did evil come about? Cuz the reason y freewill seems problematic is because u have to choose between good and evil.

If it were just to choose between good and good, we won't be having this discussion. But then we have evil.

If God is holy and he's the creator, how did evil come into existence?

The first expression of evil in the Bible was from the serpent. And God created the serpent.

Secondly, let me agree for a second that God actually gave man freewill. Don't you think that by man exercising the freewill, that God becomes useless to man?

Cuz now I'm going to be judged by my actions(freewill exerted) and not by any will of God.

You can't say God gave freewill and then you say there's destiny or God's plan for your life.

NB: Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there's no freewill. I'm simply saying that it doesn't quite sit well with me when Christians say God gave man freewill and then they tell u about the plan of God or that you're destined by God to become so and so.

And that it doesn't make sense that God, being all knowing, he sees the end from the beginning, would give man freewill when he(God) has already seen in the future that he would destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because of something he gave them, and that he would also throw his creatures into everlasting fire.

He saw these things, yet he went ahead with his plan.

Also, the analogy of the toddler. There are instances in the Bible where it's mentioned that God who's the heavenly father takes care of humans more than their parents would do.

One of those instances is where it stated that if our earthly father would dare not give us stone when we ask for bread, how much more our heavenly father.

So it's only logical to make that analogy. Except you're saying that portion of the Bible meant something else.

Finally, me saying I have doubts in the existence of God doesn't make me an atheist. It's the believe in the non-existence that makes one an atheist.

I'm doubting because there's not enough proof to back that existence.

If I have doubt in your football skills, it's not that I know you can't play football. I've just not seen enough of you playing football.

So the only way to cure my doubt is for you to show me your footballing skills.

Ekrenji:
How can everyone be born a Muslim when Islam was only founded in the 7th century by Mohammed? The words “Muslim”, “Islam” did not exist before that time

Modified:
Mohammed is the founder of Islam.
There is no evidence that Islam or Muslims existed before Mohammed.
The period in Arabian before Mohammed formed Islam was referred to as “pre Islamic period of ignorance “

Everyone is born a monotheist. Meaning with the natural belief in the one only God. Every other belief like polytheism, Trinity etc is only taught and acquired in a person's earthly sojourn. That's what's been inferred.

Luckysbab:
Imagine an olodo trying to teach a Muslim what Islam is about.

The audacity to try and constitute an authority over a subject you don't know about is crazy.

So, Mr Authority in Islam, can you answer these questions without mere rhetorical statements for you said NOTHING!

I Dare You to Answer Truthfully these Questions
1. Can you prove that Islam does NOT mean "Surrender" to the will of Allah AND Mohammed

2. Deny that you follow ONLY Allah from Quran 4:80 and Quran 33:36

3. Show me that your shahada does NOT involve Mohammed but only Allah?

4. What is the Sharia for blasphemy against Mohammed?
What is the Sharia for blasphemy against Allah?

5. Abraham worshipped YHWH!
Is there an iota of evidence that any of the 99 names of Allah is YHWH?


I am sure that you will flee to escape answering the questions except if you choose to tell lies

I know that you claim that you associate no one with Allah, but the truth is that you do.


I am waiting!!!

Ekrenji:
How can everyone be born a Muslim when Islam was only founded in the 7th century by Mohammed? The words “Muslim”, “Islam” did not exist before that time

Modified:
Mohammed is the founder of Islam.
There is no evidence that Islam or Muslims existed before Mohammed.
The period in Arabian before Mohammed formed Islam was referred to as “pre Islamic period of ignorance “

everyone was born innocent and thought to believe in oness of God before they chose other path.

Caseless:
everyone was born innocent and thought to believe in oness of God before they chose other path.

Believing in one God is not exclusive to only Islam, so is it correct to say that everyone was born Zoroastrianist, Christian or Judaist since they all believe in one God?
Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.

Mark 12:29
The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

kazlaw2000:
Everyone is born a monotheist. Meaning with the natural belief in the one only God. Every other belief like polytheism, Trinity etc is only taught and acquired in a person's earthly sojourn. That's what's been inferred.

Believing in one God is not exclusive to only Islam, so is it correct to say that everyone was born Zoroastrianist, Christian or Judaist since they all believe in one God?
Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.

Mark 12:29
The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.


Who were the group, people or nation practicing Islam before Mohammed became the prophet of Islam and what were the group called?

JIBO4REAL:
Believing in oneness of God and believing in all prophets means you are a Muslim ,

Where did you get this definition from abeg show us

Islam has been in existence since existence that’s why you will see all these prophets before Muhammad only preach oneness of Almighty God including Jesus, Jesus will be accountable for you guys calling him God while there’s only one God

Islam is not synonymous with oneness, what you people say is that Islam means peace and submission not oneness

Believing in one God is not exclusive to only Islam, so is it correct to say that everyone was born Zoroastrianist, Christian or Judaist since they all believe in one God?
Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.

Mark 12:29
The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

Who were the group, people or nation practicing Islam before Mohammed became the prophet of Islam and what were the group called?

Expanse2020:
Dont get it wrong.... Islam is Islam...
You are confuse to check if it's Cele, Catholic, Deeper like the it's in your religion

What then is sunni, shia, ahmadiyya, tijaniya, qadiriyyah, Khawariji?

olabrad:
Burna boy says he is confused even after conversion. Islam has left him with more confusion than he expected

He forgot that the music that he is into is haram (forbidden) in islam

Ekrenji:
What then is sunni, shia, ahmadiyya, tijaniya, qadiriyyah, Khawariji?

creed is what different dont compare it to your fraction.... Where Cele do it thing differently than Catholic which is different from Deeper life