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Onlinetutor7:
Now you have agreed to the fact that the Jews were the ones in the Land before the Romans conquered them and that Arabs only came in centuries later.

You can only argue right to the land between the Romans and Arabs.

The Jews is way before both.

Of course, just as Canaanites were there before the Jews themselves, whose ancestor came from Iraq.

But get your facts right. Romans never settled in Palestine. The area was only a colony just as Nigeria was a Colony to Britain.

Saying that Romans have more rights than Arabs is absurd because Arabs settled there for over a millennium already, and till date.

Not even the Eastern Roman Empire settled there, it remained a colony of what was called the Byzantine Empire (same as Eastern Roman Empire) before the Turks (Ottomans conquered Constantinople).

The overall point is that as if today it makes no sense to say Arabs are not indigenes of a place they have also dwelt in for over a thousand years. In that thousand years, more Arabs than Jews dwelt there before 1948.

The solution is equality, balance. Not one state enslaving another which is what has happened since 1948.

Unbiased1:
So to you, Hamas is not a terrorist group? A group that attacked another country, went on a killing spree of every human being it could find on the road, and justified its actions with it's religion is not a terrorist group? So if the Biafran agitators match into Abuja, start killing anyone they feel is a Nigerian, launch 5000 rockets into Abuja neighborhoods to kill and destroy as many as possible and still kidnap 251 people, will you still call them freedom fighters?

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1. Note very carefully that I have not been drawn into defining Hamas. I have severally said that it's easy to tag them a terrorist group just as the ANC was tagged and others as well. Because of course often one mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter.

2. Your analogy on Biafra is bad. The Igbo land is a bonafide part of Nigeria, with state governments and full representation in parliament, the executive and judiciary. It is not an occupied territory of a foreign power which denied it something as simple as freedom of movement. It is incorporated into the Nigerian State. If West Bank and Gaza were incorporated into one Israel, that would be the one state solution which has been much discussed and discarded.

3. It is very wrong to make that comparison again because what happened with Biafra was a civil war within an existing Federation. It ended, and the Igbo states are fully part of Nigeria.

4. The few agitators left, such as IPOB are at best a fringe separatist movement one can compare to Basque separatists in Spain. Not accurate, but you should understand the difference with comparing them to the occupied land of GAZA which is actually stateless till today. In fact so is West Bank, stateless. What is your idea, that Palestinians should remain stateless? Because that is what Israel says. How can you defend that? Igbo land is not stateless. It is part of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Onlinetutor7:
Facts
1. The Jews were in the land before the Arabs came after the Jews were conquered by Romans

2. Amongst all the empires that have taken control, the Jews have stayed longer on the Land. They have lived on the land for close to 3000 years.

Even granting that, nowhere is it said that people who have settled somewhere for 1,300 years are not indigenes as well.

Secondly you have to note that in the last two thousand years the Jews have been a minority for the large part because most went into diaspora. Before 1948, they were still a tiny minority. So it's not entirely accurate to say they have been the main people there for 3000 years. Yes, they have been present there, many times as a minority and sometimes as a majority. But it's absurd to dismiss the claims of those Arabs who have been there for over a thousand years as well.

The way human history is, you will find that many tribes in Nigeria have not been here for as long as that and yet no one will come and say they are not indigenes because they have settled long enough.

Same way Europeans have settled long enough in America, only about five hundred years. Will you say they are not Americans? Can you compare them to the Native Americans who had been there for five thousand years plus?

Flows001:
This same Iran wey Israeli Jets use their skies do training, or E get another one somewhere?

The same Isreal that begged Trump for a ceasefire ? Fear no make dem face Iran like dem dey do Palestine

Israel only kills terrorists and not civilian...

Apcshit:
The same Isreal that begged Trump for a ceasefire ? Fear no make dem face Iran like dem dey do Palestine

Beg which Trump for cease fire?

In the next 50 years to come, Iran will never forget what Israel did to them.

Iran was always the target for Benjamin, Gaza war lasted this long cause Israel needed to cut the head of the axis of evil and that mission was accomplished.

Apcshit:
The same Isreal that begged Trump for a ceasefire ? Fear no make dem face Iran like dem dey do Palestine

Please remind us of the scores again in the 12 days war, the causalties for both sides.

I dont rate some people above others, all humans are equal if not I would have said generals, prominent Iranians were killed and all of that but just give us the total number of people killed in the war.

Genociders and war criminals have something to say? I'm not listening to what you they have to say

uncleinans:
Please remind us of the scores again in the 12 days war, the causalties for both sides.

I dont rate some people above others, all humans are equal if not I would have said generals, prominent Iranians were killed and all of that but just give us the total number of people killed in the war.

It doesn't matter, Israel begged Trump for ceasefire. And Iran knew that if they didn't accept Trump's unilateral declaration of ceasefire, Trump would step into the ring on the side of Israel, beyond dropping of bunker bursters.
What happened? Israel intelligence underestimated Iran's missiles capability and got served. Lesson learnt the hard way

FreeStuffsNG:
“I feel like they’ve destroyed all my pride in being an Israeli – in being an IDF officer,” Daniel says in the programme. “All that’s left is shame.”

Everyone and all the institutions behind the Gaza genocide will be held to account, shamed and jailed las las.

Go sit down somewhere make we hear word. Terror supporter.

maasoap:
It doesn't matter, Israel begged Trump for ceasefire. And Iran knew that if they didn't accept Trump's unilateral declaration of ceasefire, Trump would step into the ring on the side of Israel, beyond dropping of bunker bursters.
What happened? Israel intelligence underestimated Iran's missiles capability and got served. Lesson learnt the hard way

You were there right?

Yet one fool is saying genocide when he clearly support genocide

FreeStuffsNG:
“I feel like they’ve destroyed all my pride in being an Israeli – in being an IDF officer,” Daniel says in the programme. “All that’s left is shame.”

Everyone and all the institutions behind the Gaza genocide will be held to account, shamed and jailed las las.

Here you are on Nairaland shouting genocide thousands of miles away from unverified propaganda news outlet.

But you deny there is Genocide your country and your door step.

Just they laugh you!

FreeStuffsNG:
“I feel like they’ve destroyed all my pride in being an Israeli – in being an IDF officer,” Daniel says in the programme. “All that’s left is shame.”

Everyone and all the institutions behind the Gaza genocide will be held to account, shamed and jailed las las.

Talk about Nigeria first Ode.

They killed so many terrorists in iran

Apcshit:
I don't want to hear anything about their useless war,they should try iran ,I wan check something

FreeStuffsNG:
“I feel like they’ve destroyed all my pride in being an Israeli – in being an IDF officer,” Daniel says in the programme. “All that’s left is shame.”

Everyone and all the institutions behind the Gaza genocide will be held to account, shamed and jailed las las.

same people denying genocide in Nigeria against Christian will rise to support Palestine

nedu666:
The people isis killed in Iraq, Sudan, Syria we never heard op lament

Head of ISIS is now the president of Syria, friends with the US. Doesn't that tell you anything?

Apcshit:
I don't want to hear anything about their useless war,they should try iran ,I wan check something

When Iran can have enough drinking water, we will look at them.

PigTormentor:
The world will never forget the GENOCIDE in Gaza.

But will forget the one in. Nigeria without a provvoked w a r ?

USA had to put a call to Tehran to please not finish Israel, Iran missile po bi omi

Flows001:
This same Iran?? Not even a fly lost its life in Israel, despite the hundreds of USELESS Missile Iran launched

Soldier go soldier come, dem don replace lost generals, with USA top done, drones ?”, missile support, Persia had stealth and represented, no support from its allies just them throwing after Israel went ahead to start a war without notifying it..Persia different from IndecentStar jews

Onlinetutor7:
Iran that lost 85 of their generals and still couldn't stop IDF from turning Gaza to a graveyard.
Iran failed to achieve their aim in engaging Israel, hence they lost alongside losing their 85 generals

Many Nigerian Christians that are chanting christian genocide in Nigeria today are still refusing to accept that Isreal is commiting genocide in Gaza,they all agree that the iswap and Boko Haram are commiting genocide in Nigeria o,but they are refusing to accept the Isreali genocide and that to me is hypocrisy and fanaticism.

Montana23:
USA had to put a call to Tehran to please not finish Israel, Iran missile po bi omi

Listen to yourself, How can someone who gave you the final blow that sent you to coma, call you not to attack the person who initiated the fight, and you agreed?

Imagine it this way:

You have spent billions trying to develop let's say a machine in your own land, then one of the residents in another community (Mr. A) told you squarely that he can't allow you develop that machine. You continued nonetheless, and Mr. A in an attempt to frustrate the continuation of the development, began assassinating all the workers you hired to help you develop the machine. But you still continued regardless. Mr. A got fed up with your stubbornness and outrightly attacked the location of the machine development, neutralised every threat on sight and destroyed everything there. However, Mr. A realised that he does not yet possess the weapon that can destroy the primary component, then he contacted his friend Mr. B who strolled into your already neutralised compound and dropped the necessary bombs that destroyed that primary component. Mr. A in an attempt to prevent you from commencing it any time soon, hunted and killed all the people connected to the production of that machine and went back to his house.

Angered, you fired over 500 missiles into the compound of Mr. A, 90% of which were intercepted by Mr. A's air defences, and the few which made it through merely touched a few REPLACEABLE buildings, with NONE of Mr. A's workers, family members or even pets killed by any of those USELESS MILLES you fired..

Whose objectives were met between You and Mr. A??

I hope you're aware that Israel was NOT in a war with Iran? It had military OBJECTIVES, went into Iran with its fighter jets, accomplished ALL its objectives and left with NO SINGLE resistance from Iran (that alone was a big slap on the face of the toothless Iran). If Israel was at war with Iran, then it would have LEVELED TEHRAN to the ground, as more than 100 Israeli fighter jets kept maneuvering the skies of Tehran for days without ANY attack from the so called "strong Iran".

Why couldn't Iran return the favour by sending its own fighter jets into Israel if it knew it was so powerful like most of you ignorant clowns make them feel?
Instead, they hid behind their remote controls and fired hundreds of USELESS MISSILES indiscriminately into Israel while HOPING that some of them should atleast get through (this had been Iran's ONLY response since the beginning of the Israel and Hamas conflict).

Iran does not have the balls to send fighter jets into Israel, they know very well that not even one of those jets would return back to Tehran

Flangelo12:
Tell that to the young white Americans.

The same Americans that are becoming more conservatives relative to islam abi. Western countries are becoming conservatives giving deadly blow to Islamist, from Italy to France, UK, Australia, us, Netherland, Portugal.. In the next ten years, Islamist will be uprooted from those countries back to stone age where una belong.. Don't Nigerians are waking up to and in a decade islam will be almost non existent innyoriba land courtesy of our renewed thirst to see islam for the evil it is

Flows001:



Listen to yourself, How can someone who gave you the final blow that sent you to coma, call you not to attack the person who initiated the fight, and you agreed?

Imagine it this way:

You have spent billions trying to develop let's say a machine in your own land, then one of the residents in another community (Mr. A) told you squarely that he can't allow you develop that machine. You continued nonetheless, and Mr. A in an attempt to frustrate the continuation of the development, began assassinating all the workers you hired to help you develop the machine. But you still continued regardless. Mr. A got fed up with your stubbornness and outrightly attacked the location of the machine development, neutralised every threat on sight and destroyed everything there. However, Mr. A realised that he does not yet possess the weapon that can destroy the primary component, then he contacted his friend Mr. B who strolled into your already neutralised compound and dropped the necessary bombs that destroyed that primary component. Mr. A in an attempt to prevent you from commencing it any time soon, hunted and killed all the people connected to the production of that machine and went back to his house.

Angered, you fired over 500 missiles into the compound of Mr. A, 90% of which were intercepted by Mr. A's air defences, and the few which made it through merely touched a few REPLACEABLE buildings, with NONE of Mr. A's workers, family members or even pets killed by any of those USELESS MILLES you fired..

Whose objectives were met between You and Mr. A??

I hope you're aware that Israel was NOT in a war with Iran? It had military OBJECTIVES, went into Iran with its fighter jets, accomplished ALL its objectives and left with NO SINGLE resistance from Iran (that alone was a big slap on the face of the toothless Iran). If Israel was at war with Iran, then it would have LEVELED TEHRAN to the ground, as more than 100 Israeli fighter jets kept maneuvering the skies of Tehran for days without ANY attack from the so called "strong Iran".

Why couldn't Iran return the favour by sending its own fighter jets into Israel if it knew it was so powerful like most of you ignorant clowns make them feel?
Instead, they hid behind their remote controls and fired hundreds of USELESS MISSILES indiscriminately into Israel while HOPING that some of them should atleast get through (this had been Iran's ONLY response since the beginning of the Israel and Hamas conflict).

Iran does not have the balls to send fighter jets into Israel, they know very well that not even one of those jets would return back to Tehran

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They are simply not at par with Israel (plus its full western backing) either militarily or financially.
And they have also been crippled in many ways for a long time. Deliberately and very strategically.

Iran is no where near there yet.
However its not true to say that their missiles achieved nothing. Its fair to say that it showed up the Iron Dome as a myth. Because that was a test by a very crippled, weakened adversary with almost no airforce whatsoever and with sanctions for years that have denied it strategic improvement options.

Thus, at the minimum it showed that the Iron Dome is nothing near the impregnable system it was touted as.

And even at that we all know there was an information blackout on the real level of damage done by Iranian missiles.

I know for certain you would not claim that a China or Russia cannot touch them, technology-wise. The only reason is that they have no strategic interest in doing so and no desire to enter a war with their Papa Uncle Sam.

Apcshit:
Why did they stop it then

They stopped after achieving ALL their MILITARY OBJECTIVES!! 💯

I hope you're aware that Israel was NOT in a war with Iran? It had military OBJECTIVES, went into Iran with its fighter jets, accomplished ALL its objectives and left with NO SINGLE resistance from Iran (that alone was a big slap on the face of the toothless Iran).

If Israel was at war with Iran, then it would have LEVELED TEHRAN to the ground, as more than 100 Israeli fighter jets kept maneuvering the skies of Tehran for days without ANY form of resistance from the so called "strong Iran". All Iranian jets and airforce went into hiding

hegelian:
The same Americans that are becoming more conservatives relative to islam abi. Western countries are becoming conservatives giving deadly blow to Islamist, from Italy to France, UK, Australia, us, Netherland, Portugal.. In the next ten years, Islamist will be uprooted from those countries back to stone age where una belong.. Don't Nigerians are waking up to and in a decade islam will be almost non existent innyoriba land courtesy of our renewed thirst to see islam for the evil it is

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Whether this is true or not, the facts are that Islam remains the fastest growing religion in the world - not because they convince more people but because they dont joke with knacking.

Also bear in mind that Israel has made alot of enemies for itself around the world and west especially in the last one to two years, especially among young people.

And you are even listing countries that because of that have recently recognized Palestine.

You have to be more balanced.

DeepSight:
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Pls when we say certain things let us be fair. Police supervised strictly by Israel in the West Bank do not amount to military installations. You know very well that nowhere in the world is a police establishment the same as military installations.

Secondly it is untrue that Israel allows armed local police in Gaza. Armed by who? They would simply see that as terrorists.

Pls don't make unfair comparisons. You talk about bomb shelters in Israel, a nuclear state protected by the richest and most powerful country in the world, and you compare that to Hamas tunnels. That's very unfair.

A captured and imprisoned population with a rag tag group of fighters among them is what you want to compare to the protection of the worlds best technology and wealthiest nation as it's ally.

And you say, oh, they should separate by sending the civilians into those rag tag tunnels and go and stand as sitting ducks on the surface where unmanned drones will just pick them off, and even the civilians will not be safe in the rag tag dungeons. This is just absurd.

You are not comparing first world security, technology and finances to third world, you are comparing quantum technology to that of a group of mosquitoes fleeing into a shoe from insecticide.

I don't write based on hearsay, I write based on verifiable information. The Palestinian Authority and Hamas have their armed forces that operate independently from Israel. Below are screenshots from Al-Jazeera detailing the activities of the PA Force last year in the West Bank. These forces carry guns, they have armoured personnel carriers and RPGs.

America's support for Israel is not the reason why Israeli home developers build bomb shelters. I know that Palestinians do not have all the sophisticated air defense systems Israel has, but that is not enough reason for Hamas not to use those tunnels to protect its civilians. Also note that some of these tunnels are large enough for cars to drive into, many of them have air conditioners, proper electrical wirings, radio communication systems, food banks and so on. Hamas should have allowed its civilians hide in these tunnels and that's the bitter truth you don't want to accept. I've also attached a link to a video showcasing the amenities in some Hamas tunnels. Stop creating excuses for Hamas and Palestinians in general, let them face the consequences of their miscalculations since the 1937 Peel accords till date.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DK2UoyuGrLZQ&ved=2ahUKEwiB15v3temQAxU2W0EAHeh9Pe4QFnoECDUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1kOByxXPIY12SRYhTpegnF[/url]

When will Hamas speak on the killing of isreali civilians. After all na them start the war on October 7th. As far as I am concerned na marker these soldiers wan sell.

FreeStuffsNG:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/10/israeli-soldiers-breaking-ranks-gaza-civilians-human-shields

DeepSight:
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They are simply not at par with Israel (plus its full western backing) either militarily or financially.
And they have also been crippled in many ways for a long time. Deliberately and very strategically.

Iran is no where near there yet.
However its not true to say that their missiles achieved nothing. Its fair to say that it showed up the Iron Dome as a myth. Because that was a test by a very crippled, weakened adversary with almost no airforce whatsoever and with sanctions for years that have denied it strategic improvement options.

Thus, at the minimum it showed that the Iron Dome is nothing near the impregnable system it was touted as.

And even at that we all know there was an information blackout on the real level of damage done by Iranian missiles.

I know for certain you would not claim that a China or Russia cannot touch them, technology-wise. The only reason is that they have no strategic interest in doing so and no desire to enter a war with their Papa Uncle Sam.

Iron dome a myth??

The Iron dome is not designed to intercept missiles that would land in less threatening areas (you dont expect it to intercept a missile that is heading into the sea or forest nah🤷‍♂️

The Iron dome has an interception rate of 98%, of course it is normal when you fire over 500 missiles, atleast 2% would go through (that does not in anyway affect the efficacy of the Iron Dome).

Even Iran knew that most of the missiles would be intercepted, that was why they fired in that ridiculous numbers, with the hope that a few of those numbers would go through (a waste of ballistic missiles to be honest).

One common thing in all of Iran's direct Missile attacks on Israel has been the 0 record of civilian casualty, despite the missiles targeted into Israeli cities, that should tell you that the Iron dome around the cities intercept almost every Missile heading towards civilian areas.

Remember after Hezbollah's leader Hassan Nasrallah was killed, Iran sent over 200 missiles into Israel and the Iron Dome intercepted almost all of them. The only recorded casualty in that attack was a Palestinian man staying in Israel that was killed by a projectile of an intercepted ballistic missile.

The Iron Dome itself is VERY EXPENSIVE, every single interception costs Israel thousands of dollars. So in other to increase effectiveness while drastically reducing cost, Israel has developed a new air defence system called the IRON BEAM, which cost not up to 100 dollars per interception and is said to be more effective than the Iron Dome.

We await the next attacks against Israel so we see the Iron Beam in action.

I don’t need much typing, Persia is the kings of the Asia.. please tell Israel to drop a bomb. It will receive by 10.. the only person to strike at USA camp at wherever..baba Middle East..Israel nah tip of the iceberg..if you like advocate for Israel..I stand on 10 toes..Iran is its father

Flows001:



Listen to yourself, How can someone who gave you the final blow that sent you to coma, call you not to attack the person who initiated the fight, and you agreed?

Imagine it this way:

You have spent billions trying to develop let's say a machine in your own land, then one of the residents in another community (Mr. A) told you squarely that he can't allow you develop that machine. You continued nonetheless, and Mr. A in an attempt to frustrate the continuation of the development, began assassinating all the workers you hired to help you develop the machine. But you still continued regardless. Mr. A got fed up with your stubbornness and outrightly attacked the location of the machine development, neutralised every threat on sight and destroyed everything there. However, Mr. A realised that he does not yet possess the weapon that can destroy the primary component, then he contacted his friend Mr. B who strolled into your already neutralised compound and dropped the necessary bombs that destroyed that primary component. Mr. A in an attempt to prevent you from commencing it any time soon, hunted and killed all the people connected to the production of that machine and went back to his house.

Angered, you fired over 500 missiles into the compound of Mr. A, 90% of which were intercepted by Mr. A's air defences, and the few which made it through merely touched a few REPLACEABLE buildings, with NONE of Mr. A's workers, family members or even pets killed by any of those USELESS MILLES you fired..

Whose objectives were met between You and Mr. A??

I hope you're aware that Israel was NOT in a war with Iran? It had military OBJECTIVES, went into Iran with its fighter jets, accomplished ALL its objectives and left with NO SINGLE resistance from Iran (that alone was a big slap on the face of the toothless Iran). If Israel was at war with Iran, then it would have LEVELED TEHRAN to the ground, as more than 100 Israeli fighter jets kept maneuvering the skies of Tehran for days without ANY attack from the so called "strong Iran".

Why couldn't Iran return the favour by sending its own fighter jets into Israel if it knew it was so powerful like most of you ignorant clowns make them feel?
Instead, they hid behind their remote controls and fired hundreds of USELESS MISSILES indiscriminately into Israel while HOPING that some of them should atleast get through (this had been Iran's ONLY response since the beginning of the Israel and Hamas conflict).

Iran does not have the balls to send fighter jets into Israel, they know very well that not even one of those jets would return back to Tehran

Bro nah Iran make you write story like this. E be like sey Israel Dey pay you salary..Iran give Israel no be small..Persia..the kings of kings

Montana23:
I don’t need much typing, Persia is the kings of the Asia.. please tell Israel to drop a bomb. It will receive by 10.. the only person to strike at USA camp at wherever..baba Middle East..Israel nah tip of the iceberg..if you like advocate for Israel..I stand on 10 toes..Iran is its father