₦airaland Forum

misreal:
A soldier only answers to the commander in chief and his superiors,not to any bloody civilian like wike.

Last last Tinubu is his commander in chief and Wike will get his way

Constituted authority should respect itself.

The only power the government has is the monopoly of violence, and when that violence becomes ineffective, they become naked and powerless.

press9jatv:
“The Young Officer Has No Respect For Constituted Authority; This Is Unacceptable. His Uniform Should Be Removed Immediately” — Joe Igbokwe Reacts After Soldier 'Challenged' FCT Minister, Nyesom Wike In Abuja


Credit: Oriental times

"I am talking and a police officer is talking"
That line 😭 make them pour officer water 😫
The police officer will regret his choice of uniform.

dollypi:
Constituted authority should respect itself.

The only power the government has is the monopoly of violence, and when that violence becomes ineffective, they become naked and powerless.

exactly 💯

press9jatv:
he's a Nigeria minister and not elected man. Let's differentiate it

is he constituted authority?

His voice shook a little at the beginning of the video, but later grew firm. Probably adrenaline rushing through his body.

press9jatv:
Read what the CDS is saying concerning the conduct of a soldier in today's trending video. "Every soldier has an element of madness...
For while the right thinking man withdraws from danger, a soldier charges towards it

GENERAL OO OLUYEDE OFR

CHIEF OF DEFENCE STAFF".

The Nigerian Defence Academy does not produce docile officers. The officer's response reflects admirable composure and emotional intelligence-qualities that lie at the heart of military leadership training. His ability to remain calm, firm, and respectful under verbal provocation demonstrates discipline and professionalism.

Nevertheless, it is both unfortunate and inappropriate for a federal minister to use such language toward a serving officer of the Armed Forces. Public officials should model civility and restraint, especially when addressing those in uniform who embody national service and sacrifice".

Notwithstanding, the case is subject to my scrutiny.

aribisala0:
is he constituted authority?

not a constitution authority

fergie001:
See who speaks about hypocrisy?
Should a Minister not know the law and what to do or try to brag for nothing?
The soldier told you he is under orders, you called the CDS and nothing was done. What is the next thing to do? Call the soldier a big fool? Is that your definition of normality? That is very okay to you?

Otti or any other reasonable Governor will not disgrace himself in that manner to be exchanging words with an officer. You don't know that uniform carries the sovereignty and badge of the President? Unsurprisingly, you have said nothing about the insults he gave that officer who politely showed him what it meant to be taking orders.

The soldier told you he is under orders, it is left for you to take up the chain of command, you don't even need to come there...but he sought disgrace and he got it. When Lagbaja warned him and he ran to report to the President, why didn't he go to Court? What did the CDS tell him when he called the CDS?

He should be apologising to that Naval Officer in a very sane and non-hypocritical environment.

I can see how you convinienty left the chain of events that led to the Minister reaction.

Series of administrative action have been taken where the minister requested for documents and building approval of the land which was not provided, those are enough ground for Wike to take up the matter and get the culprits pay for their sin.

If there is any ground for the retired military to sue Wike for assault or public harassment, no one stops him.

My points is we shouldn't condone illegality because we don't like the face of who is being meted to, today it is Wike, tomorrow it can be you or me or Otti or PO.

If new Nigeria is to be possible we need to do away with military mentality and adhere to the rule of law.

dollypi:
His voice shook a little at the beginning of the video, but later grew firm. Probably adrenaline rushing through his body.

he's just brave confident in what he believed in

Christistruth00:
Last last Tinubu is his commander in chief and Wike will get his way

This comment tell me your age if you are old enough to have lived under the military rule you would not use the expression bloody civilian
Many of you do not understand what people went through to get this democracy


Now a soldier trained at NDA for 4 years to become an officer ? Who paid for it the same BLOODY CIVILIAN that pays for his uniform and weapons that design and manufacture the weapons and treat him when he is injured

Now this same soldier wears his uniform to go and defend the private land of a retired Admiral

Is that what the 4 years of training was for?

That same soldier will never defend the land of you that is calling yourself bloody civilian
He is not using all that training in Sambisa forest or Katsina

You are like a woman celebrating the man who took her by force and gave her belle

They call it Stockholm syndrome

press9jatv:
not a constitution authority

is he constituted authority?

aribisala0:
is he constituted authority?

Wike is a president appointee and not a elected man

aribisala0:
This comment tell me your age if you are old enough to have lived under the military rule you would not use the expression bloody civilian
Many of you do not understand what people went through to get this democracy


Now a soldier trained at NDA for 4 years to become an officer ? Who paid for it the same BLOODY CIVILIAN that pays for his uniform and weapons that design and manufacture the weapons and treat him when he is injured

Now this same soldier wears his uniform to go and defend the private land of a retired Admiral

Is that what the 4 years of training was for?

That same soldier will never defend the land of you that is calling yourself bloody civilian
He is not using all that training in Sambisa forest or Katsina

You are like a woman celebrating the man who took her by force and gave her belle

They call it Stockholm syndrome

I agree with you, those who didn't pay the price for democracy will not appreciate the reward of sacrifice that is. Fundamental right of the citizen ad the rule of law.

It is shameful that Nigerians are wired to reason like this

Ttalk:
I can see how you convinienty left the chain of events that led to the Minister reaction.

Series of administrative action have been taken where the minister requested for documents and building approval of the land which was not provided, those are enough ground for Wike to take up the matter and get the culprits pay for their sin.

If there is any ground for the retired military to sue Wike for assault or public harassment, no one stops him.

My points is we shouldn't condone illegality because we don't like the face of who is being meted to, today it is Wike, tomorrow it can be you or me or Otti or PO.

If new Nigeria is to be possible we need to do away with military mentality and adhere to the rule of law.

You live in this country and you know how high-handed persons in authority behave. Does charity not begin at home?
Are you not aware that the Minister himself has been adjudged to have used his position to give lands to his sons, brothers and allies and even dared that he won't ordinarily give them to his enemies. Are you not in this country?

Are you not in this country when he arrested an individual he perceived had leaked the documents and that individual was in cell for weeks? So nobody rates him in the military brass. Those who must approach equity must do so with clean hands. If a new Nigeria must be possible or even if our hopes will be renewed, people like that man in-charge of the FCT shouldn't be speaking up at all.

You are not speaking of an ordinary officer but a high-ranking retired Military personnel. Let him report to his boss the President. For him to call the CDS and nothing was done, he should have understood.... Like I said, if he likes let him go there a million times, he will be denied entry unless the President, through the Minister of Defense, steps in.

press9jatv:
Wike is a president appointee and not a elected man

I know

what is the legal significance of that with regard to the issue in question
Which is the Land use act specifically in Abuja
The head of the CBN is appointee not elected
Does that mean soldiers can go there to remove money?

HgAkpobomeEr:
The soldier should have been more civil in his approach.

how ,did he insult him,u guys like surprise and oppression,a man stand on his right and u here talking trash,so he should accept he is a fool or what,una nairaland sef don't understand

fergie001:
You live in this country and you know how high-handed persons in authority behave. Does charity not begin at home?
Are you not aware that the Minister himself has been adjudged to have used his position to give lands to his sons, brothers and allies and even dared that he won't ordinarily give them to his enemies. Are you not in this country?

Are you not in this country when he arrested an individual he perceived had leaked the documents and that individual was in cell for weeks? So nobody rates him in the military brass. Those who must approach equity must do so with clean hands. If a new Nigeria must be possible or even if our hopes will be renewed, people like that man in-charge of the FCT shouldn't be speaking up at all.

You are not speaking of an ordinary officer but a high-ranking retired Military personnel. Let him report to his boss the President. For him to call the CDS and nothing was done, he should have understood.... Like I said, if he likes let him go there a million times, he will be denied entry unless the President, through the Minister of Defense, steps in.

Let me assure you that the CNS at this point will lose that land as far as Land Use Act still exist, if the president like he can plead with the minister to allocate another one to him. But trust Wike to take the matter up

Ttalk:
Let me assure you that the CNS at this point will lose that land as far as Land Use Act still exist, if the president like he can plead with the minister to allocate another one to him. But trust Wike to take the matter up

The Army land matter, did he take it up?
When Lagbaja warned him, did he take it up?
He came with DSS & Police, they didn't let him in, maybe he will come this time with a platoon. The soldiers have said they will even shoot if anyone trespasses, they are under authority and they obey the last command.

The crux of the matter is simple: Admit he was wrong to hurl insults at the officer or even try to harass the officer who is under orders. If Tinubu gives Wike an assignment, will Wike go to do something else? You called the CDS, even if that land was illegal, the officer is under authority and he made that clear.

This is simple action.... Take whatever punitive action you can up the chain of command. The said officer is too small on that chain but he just wanted to overrate himself and got what he deserved. Let the President beg if he wants to even though I know you stylishly dodged the fact you know what he intends to do with that land, we know his MO.

Yoruba have a proverb
Omoba ko ki n ja bi eru

A King's son should not fight in public like a slave

The issue on ground is one that needs to be resolved with the pen

Those who who say the pen is mightier than the sword are right

When a Prince fights with a slave he belittles himself
Getting to a point of calling a soldier in uniform a fool is unprincely
You are or were hoping to be Commander in chief one day and that will always be used against you


That is Wike's side



The young offcer said he was acting on orders
Whose orders? A Retired Admiral?

Was that a military operation

We have seen repeated incidents of indiscipline from military and other armed officers.

Last week we heard of Navy officers at a police station
Remember ATM Incident at Uniben?
I can go on and on
Today we heard the officer disrespect the police

Let me explain to many young people
In any democracy and civilian space as long as there is no emergency rule the military are supposed to be the MOST JUNIOR
even junior to civilian security
It is not to disrespect them but emphasizing the non military nature of civilian life

If there is no military deployment by the president and we are not under martial law The military are not even supposed to be seen

That is why all those places they are active should be under a state of emergency. The failure of the president to do so does not allow Nigerians know the difference

As long as a place is not under a state of emergency soldiers have no business having check points or carrying guns in a civilian area

dfrost:
Nice one fergie001. Omo people don't understand what military 🪖 is.

Orders are Orders for a reason. Aah... My boys at Sobi Barracks fit tear person slap for this act.

It can only be Naval or Airforce personnel that can have this type of self-control.

Army? So pe o ti lo 🤓

he's a commissioned officer naturally would be well behaved. You think he'll joke with his cimmisio?

press9jatv:
“The Young Officer Has No Respect For Constituted Authority; This Is Unacceptable. His Uniform Should Be Removed Immediately” — Joe Igbokwe Reacts After Soldier 'Challenged' FCT Minister, Nyesom Wike In Abuja


Credit: Oriental times

Another example of the mutual exclusivity of being APC and having brains screwed on.

Wike should have spoken to the superiors of the officer and reached an agreement with them. soldiers are well trained and hold on to their hair of command ...never would they allow a Wike to pass.

This shows the total loss of decorum, tact and commonsense in government . The soldier was very professional. Impunity jty is the mantra of this government and that is how they have used gutter , agbero tactics to get into power and also run this country.

The policeman is a dog in the Oba's Palace who thinks it must be the king of dogs with a taste of wine from the Kings wine droplets ....they are the real issue facing people in power with their eye service and lack of wisdom.....the dog was barking at the entrance of the lion's den

By the time this government is done, all our Institutions and values will be gone.

Soldiers should not be deployed in civilian spaces unless there is a state of emergency
That is an aberration
However if they are deployed illegally the correct thing is not to engage them in confrontation that is wrong

However in a functional democracy we should not have anything to do with soldiers and soldiers must be trained to be subordinate to civilian security outside of their barracks
Sadly Nigerian military are very undisciplined
Remember what happened at Uniben a few years ago?

Ttalk:
I can see how you convinienty left the chain of events that led to the Minister reaction.

Series of administrative action have been taken where the minister requested for documents and building approval of the land which was not provided, those are enough ground for Wike to take up the matter and get the culprits pay for their sin.

If there is any ground for the retired military to sue Wike for assault or public harassment, no one stops him.

My points is we shouldn't condone illegality because we don't like the face of who is being meted to, today it is Wike, tomorrow it can be you or me or Otti or PO.

If new Nigeria is to be possible we need to do away with military mentality and adhere to the rule of law.

Yoruba man and tribalism. Show us your lengthy article when wike fell out with late coas lagbaja

Ttalk:
Let me assure you that the CNS at this point will lose that land as far as Land Use Act still exist, if the president like he can plead with the minister to allocate another one to him. But trust Wike to take the matter up

And wike and tinubu will remain in power forever. When Northerns take over who will stop them from undoing what wike has done.

Wike is power drunk and self centered. How can you as a minister be hurling insults to a younger military officer on orders? What if the officer was a trigger happy one?
What stops you from going through the right channels if you want to withhold the land? Kudos to that officer, his type are rare.

press9jatv:
Omo so Wike is constituted authority? 🙄🙄🙄

Yes. Therefore his actions are constitutional etc. that officer overstepped his bounds for a retired officer. Learn. Wike is the GOVENOR of FCT.

Christistruth00:
Yes
Wike is the Minister and Constituted Authority Of the FCT


Didn’t you already know ?

Do you know that the Armed forces are not even treated as civil servants??

We play too much in this country ooo, people wey no even dey under the jurisdiction of a Governor, na Minister go come order them around

The Minister knew the proper channel he could take but felt he's lord over everyone

Glad he was put in his place

DeLaRue:
The country is just in chaos.

A military personnel should not in any way be out blocking a minister from carrying out his duties.

Nigeria is NOT Pakistan.

In the scheme of things, the military is beneath the Executive arm under the constitution and a Minister is senior to even the Chief of Defense staff.

So, who is the army guy's boss that sent him to prevent a Minister of the Federal Republic from performing his lawful duties

In a serious country, the military senior that sent the guy to do the hatchet job will be investigated and demoted. But not in Nigeria. No wonder we have attempted coups.

And when did Ministers starts carrying out demolitions of properties he's not even sure the papers are correct or not

Like it or not, the Military are special, they are not treated same way as civilians anywhere in the world

Na why na only president them dey listen to

AMINDA:
Lol. Generals don't retire, they just leave active service. A General dies a General. There's a reason why even after speaking to the CDS, the boys weren't asked to stand down. There are levels to this military thing. Wike was not informed but he now knows better.

Let me quote the young officer, Lt AM Yerima verbatim,

“Sir, I request to enlighten you, there is no such thing as a former Vice Admiral, a Vice Admiral is a Vice Admiral…”

Wike messed up big time, he should have sorted it out with the bosses without even causing a scene at all

Ikaeniyan0:
The military officer is so ignorant, did you see the way he was talking to a police officer sef? When I was in Israel, policemen are more powerful than military men on the street, if a military personnel mess up, he will be arrested by a police officer, no matter the military officer rank.

In the USA, military personnel can't arrest a civilian for any offence committed outside a US military base, even if you commit an offence close to thier base, they will call the police to com and arrest the person.

Military rule don really mess up Nigeria

The Police officers in those countries are in charge of their internal affairs can you say same of Nigerian Police?🤣

If not For soldiers, dem for don even overrun many states in Nigeria

The man knew why he said such