₦airaland Forum

misreal:
How many times do we need to tell you that a millitary officer doesn't take orders from a civilian,not even the governor of a state.If he disobeys an order,he will be deranked at once.If it's the time of war,he will be killed.
Wike should have asked his superior to speak to him,instead of abusing him.
Only the commander in chief can order soldiers,get this knowledge and rest.

Even the commando in chief will communicate to his superior who will then order him on what to do.

stuffs2002:
Not all orders are legal

So a solder can be given orders to enter your house and sleep with your daughter

Just talking out of points. Must it be this rubbish example.

Thundafireseun:
If that soilder boy sees armed bandits or armed robbers,…, his type will run away

Try get small sense Na, at least Na free

otomatic:
Is that what happened in this scenario?
A sensible minister would have called the CNS or even the CinC.
The military operates by doctrine and the minister is not on the chain of command.

It's still the same thing.

If a soldier is given orders to enter your house and sleep with your daughter, you will need to call the CNS or even the CinC to stop him

OgaTheTop2:
Focus on the topic. This is not about bandit.

You get sense.. apprently many people here dont

Thundafireseun:
I will rather be at the right hand of the Devil than to be in his path….

That solider boy still has to learn

You mean by saying Yes Sir.
Remain in the right hand of the devil in that case.

Fiscus105:
You will still read the full story and know, who is illegally revoked the plot of land, even when the case is in the court, who illegally, reallocated the plot of land to his political associates , including Amupitan.


Keep surporting your oppressors because you belong to evil APC

I gave you logic but you returned by throwing insults

omoredia:
The military is not above the law they must respect constituted authority like the rest of us.

The military only takes commands from either the president or their superior.
That is why you hear in the slangs "obey before complain"

being:
As much as people may not like Wike, it is very irresponsible to be talking to a minister like that. Hw can a ministry or an agency of govt be on enforcement and then u say u follow orders.. however, where wike is to be blamed is his slowness to call d CNS Or CDS to order his boys out. Altogether. It is an embarrassment to the country that a security agency would prevent the work of a representative of govt. This is not much about wike but the chaos of the system. Indeed the c-in-c should actually issue a query to the CNS(since the officer was actually following orders) for allowing his institution to be involved in such lawlessness

Are you a Wike supporter or what. A general is telling you that you don't have the right to speak to a soldier working in an order that way you are here talking rubbish. Wike act out of order not the soldier. This is how he should have been treated long ago for land grabbing.

Newsgeek24:
https://verynigerian.com/wikes-clash-with-naval-officer-a-threat-to-national-security-buratai/

This is absolute crap. But you see it can only occur in Nigeria. PBAT should tell the military personnel that they are not above the law and that they should abide to it completely.
Irrespective of the FCT Ministers' outbursts the uniform personnel are acting wrongly against the law and constituting nuisance of themselves.

being:
As much as people may not like Wike, it is very irresponsible to be talking to a minister like that. Hw can a ministry or an agency of govt be on enforcement and then u say u follow orders.. however, where wike is to be blamed is his slowness to call d CNS Or CDS to order his boys out. Altogether. It is an embarrassment to the country that a security agency would prevent the work of a representative of govt. This is not much about wike but the chaos of the system. Indeed the c-in-c should actually issue a query to the CNS(since the officer was actually following orders) for allowing his institution to be involved in such lawlessness

Wike is afull. If he believes he is doing the right thing, he can take the owner of the land to court.

ogascomax:
Just talking out of points. Must it be this rubbish example.

The land issue being discussed is 100% civil and the military have no business being there in the first case but your hatred for Wike has completely blinded you to logic

Wike as a lawyer ought to know that only the president can order military and that's why the president is addressed as "President and Commander in chief of armed forces." This is the constitutional nomenclature of the Nigerian president. This nomenclature specifically captures the military leaving out other security agencies out. Moreover, wike could have called the CDS or CNS in office without being there and those soldiers would be moved away, but he wanted to show force and gara gara

Thundafireseun:
If that soilder boy sees armed bandits or armed robbers,…, his type will run away

Na your family go run?

being:
As much as people may not like Wike, it is very irresponsible to be talking to a minister like that. Hw can a ministry or an agency of govt be on enforcement and then u say u follow orders.. however, where wike is to be blamed is his slowness to call d CNS Or CDS to order his boys out. Altogether. It is an embarrassment to the country that a security agency would prevent the work of a representative of govt. This is not much about wike but the chaos of the system. Indeed the c-in-c should actually issue a query to the CNS(since the officer was actually following orders) for allowing his institution to be involved in such lawlessness

Did you watch the video at all?

If you insist that the soldier insulted wike please write the exact insult here let's read....because from what I watched, wike was the one insulting the boy

stuffs2002:
It's still the same thing.

If a soldier is given orders to enter your house and sleep with your daughter, you will need to call the CNS or even the CinC to stop him

Ok let me engage at your level of reasoning, since you cannot differentiate between personal and official duties.
That thing I would have done to the soldier, i expected Wike to do same but he didn't. Why? He would have found out his true status.

omoredia:
Soldiers are not more important than the rest of us. They are one citizen, with one vote, civilian in uniform. They should not be above the law

Una don pass 20yrs and above, and one expect most of you guys to know most of uniform men especially military men law.
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A soldier is only answerable to his superior and the president. That's why you hear the term: obey before complain or obey the last order. Let me tell you for a fact, even if Wike had carried warrant from Tinubu or even put that soldier on a call with Tinubu, he will not move an inch if he didn't hear from that his boss or other superiors that place him there.

Jagabanfromcali:
This bura na full , a jnr officer undermining the minister of the republic is serious offense against the government and shud be decommissioned right away

Wike is a nobody. He is a political appointee.. if no be say Gubara na mumuni, wike for no fot do anything to am for Rivers

Hahahaha Nigeria a country.

Threat to National security loool

No way wonder the soldiers always see themselves above the law and they act recklessly.

stuffs2002:
The land issue being discussed is 100% civil and the military have no business being there in the first case but your hatred for Wike has completely blinded you to logic

So you know how many land with proper documents that has been revoked because the owners are not powerful and influential? Your thin god finally jam his match and you're here crying r

omoredia:
Soldiers are not more important than the rest of us. They are one citizen, with one vote, civilian in uniform. They should not be above the law

Is wike the law?

NoToPile:
Hahahaha Nigeria a country.

Threat to National security loool

No way wonder the soldiers always see themselves above the law and they act recklessly.

They are one and thesame. The ogogoro man also believes he is above the law

being:
As much as people may not like Wike, it is very irresponsible to be talking to a minister like that. Hw can a ministry or an agency of govt be on enforcement and then u say u follow orders.. however, where wike is to be blamed is his slowness to call d CNS Or CDS to order his boys out. Altogether. It is an embarrassment to the country that a security agency would prevent the work of a representative of govt. This is not much about wike but the chaos of the system. Indeed the c-in-c should actually issue a query to the CNS(since the officer was actually following orders) for allowing his institution to be involved in such lawlessness

Military unlike Civilian follow order from their hierarchy. The most discipline sector na the military.

All I know is that the civilian govt are lawless people with impunity, and the military boys are just cool by taking orders bcuz of the constitution and a wrong towards one of them can spell doom. Just bcuz they watch and listen and carry out orders doesn't mean they're stupid....shit can go wrong...Just imagine the Embarrassment herein!

Common Sense should have come to play here and applied by the Minister!

All he ought to have done was to collect the Name of the General that has the Land and report to his Superior or mark the Site than allowing this to happen and even be videoed!

Nah Wah Ooooo!!!! 2 wrongs can't make a right now!!!!

My Respect goes to that Captain!!!🎩

Iamzik:
So you know how many land with proper documents that has been revoked because the owners are not powerful and influential? Your thin god finally jam his match and you're here crying r

Go to court if you feel agreived

So how is bringing the military to beat up people that come near the land is the answer

princeade86:
but how many times will dey tell you guys that if he disobey his boss order, they can turn it to mutiny? Soldiers only obey Mr president and their top ranking officers. Even ordinary police man disobeyed a whole lagos state governor, not to talk of ordinary minister that was chosen by Mr president by opportunity

Police disobey governor? Must've missed that piece of information

otomatic:
Ok let me engage at your level of reasoning, since you cannot differentiate between personal and official duties.
That thing I would have done to the soldier, i expected Wike to do same but he didn't. Why? He would have found out his true status.

E be like say mkporu mirri still dey your blood.

The case is 100% civil and the land is a personal land of a retired navy personnel

OgaTheTop2:
Soldier is not civilian. Their is chain of command he must obey. If he was asked to shoot anyone, trust me, he will do so. Wike was only trying to be bossy at the wrong person and he learnt his lesson shamefully.

His the military under the law and constitution?.

Let me hear your position before I respond further

OgaTheTop2:
Focus on the topic. This is not about bandit.

In a broader sense, thunderfireseun is focused on the topic. It's only in backward societies that a soldier who is supposed to be in the barracks or securing the country would be securing a plot of land or threatening civilians on the street

ogascomax:
Just talking out of points. Must it be this rubbish example.

Hahahaha

Order is order na

True but Wike is a much bigger threat whose past and current actions have plunged this country into despair

Kalulu44:
Una don pass 20yrs and above, and one expect most of you guys to know most of uniform men especially military men law.
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A soldier is only answerable to his superior and the president. That's why you hear the term: obey before complain or obey the last order. Let me tell you for a fact, even if Wike had carried warrant from Tinubu or even put that soldier on a call with Tinubu, he will not move an inch if he didn't hear from that his boss or other superiors that place him there.

So for building approval wike should call Tinubu. U can see how ur worldview affects our nationhood and the perception of rule of law.

Nigerians are one of the most dangerous people in planet earth where every form of reasoning must pass through the prism of ethnicity and political affiliation of Agvadirians republic.
Ask yourself a simple questions... In a civilised country where this malady takes place, what is d consequence. That garrulous political rascal like Wike would be arrested and make to resigned honourably.
How can a serving minister be abusing an officer just because he was told that he's acting on order from above.
Its most pathetic that some hoodlums here on Nairaland are defending this rascal of a minister.