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raumdeuter:
So criminals have an age range? Okay wat is the age range for criminals. In the same system why didnt you in their age go and get a gun and start robbing people

That's not the point. The boys prior to the incident were teenagers doing teenager things.

The system they live in made guns easily accessible and they decided to practicalize the ideas they've got in their teenage minds.

How many teenagers in Nigeria have access to automatic weapons like those boys?

I don't have strength to do back and forth argument with u on this, but my position on this is that guns being accessible in the US makes this type of incident and school shootings a regular occurence

BlueRayDick:
That's not the point. The boys prior to the incident were teenagers doing teenager things.

The system they live in made guns easily accessible and they decided to practicalize the ideas they've got in their teenage minds.

How many teenagers in Nigeria have access to automatic weapons like those boys?

I don't have strength to do back and forth argument with u on this, but my position on this is that guns being accessible in the US makes this type of incident and school shootings a regular occurence

Teenager things with Gun?

They fired at the man nau.

izzou:
It remains to throw him under the Bus.

Maybe na Tinubu go do that one

Na Mourinho bus abi Arteta bus ?

GloriousGbola:
Wike simply refused to respect himself

Oga at the top going to do boy boy job

The generals sent a boy to do a boy boy job.

Wike should have done same

He should leave all this performative nonsense behind and go and stay where he belongs - behind a desk.

The so called performative nonsense feeds his ego, and ego has a big stomach.

The generals sent a boy they could trust to stand firm but apply common sense. For someone so junior he did his best to tread the fine line and remain resolute but not disrespectful.

A Vice Admiral gave an order. Who is Wike to stand down the order. Nothing like former Vice Admiral, a Vice Admiral is a Vice Admiral.

BlueRayDick:


Na Mourinho bus abi Arteta bus ?

Na dem go tell us oh

But he definitely will be thrown under the bus

izzou:
Teenager things with Gun?

They fired at the man nau.

You are misquoting me deliberately.

What I'm saying is that they were teenagers who only got enabled by their society easy access to guns .

BlueRayDick:
That's not the point. The boys prior to the incident were teenagers doing teenager things.

The system they live in made guns easily accessible and they decided to practicalize the ideas they've got in their teenage minds.

How many teenagers in Nigeria have access to automatic weapons like those boys?

I don't have strength to do back and forth argument with u on this, but my position on this is that guns being accessible in the US makes this type of incident and school shootings a regular occurence

You were once a teenager, everyone here was once a teenager, How many of us who lived in the same system went to get guns and be robbing people

Its your same excuse we can give to all criminals all yahoo boys, all ritualists, all cultists, all election riggers all hookup and OS girls. Its the system. Na only them pass through the system?

izzou:
The consequence of number 2 is that he would be a Lieutenant till he dies.

Him folder go loss for Naval Database

Both situations dey risky but the guy weigh certainty against possibility.

He will kill me vs he might kill me.

BlueRayDick:
You are misquoting me deliberately.

What I'm saying is that they were teenagers who only got enabled by their society easy access to guns .

You were once a teenager in this same system just like every adult who grew up in Nigeria, why didnt everyone also pick a gun and go rob people

BlueRayDick:
You are misquoting me deliberately.

What I'm saying is that they were teenagers who only got enabled by their society easy access to guns .

Ohh. Okay

I wasn't following your conversation with him from the start

raumdeuter:
You were once a teenager, everyone here was once a teenager, How many of us who lived in the same system went to get guns and be robbing people

Its your same excuse we can give to all criminals all yahoo boys, all ritualists, all cultists, all election riggers all hookup and OS girls. Its the system. Na only them pass through the system?

I don't live in the US.

You live in the US and school shootings happen every now and then. I'm simply saying when u allow easy access to guns, teenagers will take stooopid decisions that will claim lives like it happens regularly in the US

BlueRayDick:
I don't live in the US.

You live in the US and school shootings happen every now and then. I'm simply saying when u allow easy access to guns, teenagers will take stooopid decisions that will claim lives like it happens regularly in the US

Millions of men grew up in that same US system and they didnt pick up guns to go rob people.

This same situation can happen and happens in Nigeria. The incident Gloriousgbola reported happened in Nigeria not n US, That is Nigeria where there isnt easy access to guns.

Every night in Nigeria without easy access to guns there are hundred of robberies happening and the victims just lie down and wait for their turns

Spy360:
If Wike is involved you know that illegality plus ogogoro will not be far. So no fuss.

Now that Wike is involved, We are all in agreement that a soldier only answers to a superior military officer and no ne can stop him

Now when we try to use this logic for how Tinubu as a civilian can order military to Lekki toll gate during endsars like most obidients believe, that is when we will start turning and twisting for agenda

Like oasisx says, we all know what we are doing

raumdeuter:
Millions of men grew up in that same US system and they didnt pick up guns to go rob people.

This same situation can happen and happens in Nigeria. The incident Gloriousgbola reported happened in Nigeria not n US, That is Nigeria where there isnt easy access to guns.

Every night in Nigeria without easy access to guns there are hundred of robberies happening and the victims just lie down and wait for their turns

Okay I've heard.

I currently don't have appetite for the long argument that will follow my opposition to ur views on this matter. I agree with u

airmark:
You quickly edited your initial post. Obidient Segedinho.

I completely misunderstood ur post at d first glance

I thought it was right I edited after d 2nd reading

What does obedient have to do with this?

I am not an Obidient but a Nigerian fighting for his life daily

raumdeuter:
Now that Wike is involved, We are all in agreement that a soldier only answers to a superior military officer and no ne can stop him

Now when we try to use this logic for how Tinubu as a civilian can order military to Lekki toll gate during endsars like most obidients believe, that is when we will start turning and twisting for agenda

Like oasisx says, we all know what we are doing

Maybe I am wrong, but I cannot remember anybody from the Chelsea thread where we all started, accuse Tinubu of ordering soldiers to the Toll gate

Like I said...I could be wrong.

And I'm happy your body don calm down now, after all those takes you had yesterday.

I have forgiven you. Go and sin no more!

Ibime:
There is no such thing as a retired General when it comes to influence

Una dey underrate the power politicians have over military in present day Nigeria

Even an LGA Chairman can slap a General and nothing will happen

This has to be some sort of exaggeration. That LGA no go even try and if he did,he would regret it for the rest of his life.

As for the young officer,he can be dealt with,those who sent him still need favour in one way or the other.

izzou:
Maybe I am wrong, but I cannot remember anybody from the Chelsea thread where we all started, accuse Tinubu of ordering soldiers to the Toll gate

Like I said...I could be wrong.

And I'm happy your body don calm down now, after all those takes you had yesterday.

I have forgiven you. Go and sin no more!

People are allowing their hatred for Wike justify illegality by the military

If it was Otti who went to supervise a demolition work in Umuahia and a military officer told him he cannot do it because his boss owns the property, will we maintain the same energy?

Read what Rufai Oseni posted about the issue

https://x.com/ruffydfire/status/1988575358057054346

afrodoc2:
The focus on the officer was always wrong right from the start. Principalities and powers in his field of endeavour sent him to stop the officials from moving in so he had no other choice but to do what he did.

The people potentially at fault were the principalities and powers that sent him in the first place. I don’t however know what people wanted them to do when facing a governor who does not follow rule of law or wait for court orders himself.

It is Wike’s disregard for due process and court orders that led us to this situation.

God bless you

The navy under order sees anything else as nonsense

My platoon commandant once said..if/when and order from a superior states he should eliminate his mother,

He is left with 2 options....kill himself and disobey d order for his mother who might be kill afterward or kill his mother amd probably ask "why"after obeying the order.


TemporaryHansel n co are focusing on the wrong person walahi

Segedinho:
God bless you

The navy under order sees anything else as nonsense

My platoon commandant once said..if/when and order from a superior states he should eliminate his mother,

He is left with 2 options....kill himself and disobey d order for his mother who might be kill afterward or kill his mother amd probably ask "why"after obeying the order.


TemporaryHansel n co are focusing on the wrong person walahi

Bossu please don't mention me on this matter again.

izzou:
The consequence of number 2 is that he would be a Lieutenant till he dies.

Him folder go loss for Naval Database

Or even dismissed for the most irrelevant mistake

raumdeuter:
People are allowing their hatred for Wike justify illegality by the military

If it was Otti who went to supervise a demolition work in Umuahia and a military officer told him he cannot do it because his boss owns the property, will we maintain the same energy?

Read what Rufai Oseni posted about the issue

https://x.com/ruffydfire/status/1988575358057054346

The same Rufai Oseni that is asking them to give the officer a national award?


https://www.nairaland.com/8560054/wike-officer-deserves-national-award

izzou:
Maybe I am wrong, but I cannot remember anybody from the Chelsea thread where we all started, accuse Tinubu of ordering soldiers to the Toll gate

Like I said...I could be wrong.

And I'm happy your body don calm down now, after all those takes you had yesterday.

I have forgiven you. Go and sin no more!

I just skimmed through our posts on Chelsea thread on 20th October 2020 and It surprised me that almost everybody holding brief for the APC government on this thread spoke against the shootings.

Only two people supported the actions and inactions of Buhari/Sanwoolu/the military that day. Those two people are Jude and DonJ. The third person (Don'tBullshitMe) repented that night after he saw the carnage the military caused that night.

How APC as a party was able to use propaganda sway people's opinion and suddenly made ENDSARS about Tinubu needs to be studied. APC fit no sabi much about good governance, but you see propaganda wey dey show result ? Give it to them!

raumdeuter:
People are allowing their hatred for Wike justify illegality by the military

If it was Otti who went to supervise a demolition work in Umuahia and a military officer told him he cannot do it because his boss owns the property, will we maintain the same energy?

Read what Rufai Oseni posted about the issue

https://x.com/ruffydfire/status/1988575358057054346

Excerpt:

The Minister’s method may be brash; but it is legal and lawful in all respects. Rather, it is the officer who obstructed him that has breached not just the Nigerian Constitution, but also service and extant regulatory laws. For the avoidance of any doubt, section 114 of the Armed Forces Act makes military personnel criminally liable for civil offences. This means the officer in question could be arraigned before a Court Martial for obstructing a public officer from performing his public duties, et cetera.


When i listened to Lere's report of the incident, in the face of the law, that officer and his boss are in trouble if they want to deal with them in the law court.

TemporaryHansel:
Bossu please don't mention me on this matter again.

No vex big man

raumdeuter:
People are allowing their hatred for Wike justify illegality by the military

If it was Otti who went to supervise a demolition work in Umuahia and a military officer told him he cannot do it because his boss owns the property, will we maintain the same energy?

Read what Rufai Oseni posted about the issue

https://x.com/ruffydfire/status/1988575358057054346

Where was this same energy when it was done to Sanwo Olu? Why are you guys spinning this thing as if it was the 200 million Nigerians that made it happen?

Where was this moral line of judgement, when a CSP bounced an elected governor (not even an appointed minister), and nobody said anything?

It is the Wike who you are supporting, and his likes that have created the scene that happened yesterday.

You cannot be using your power to rig elections, bully a sitting governor, and when that same illegality bites you, you come to get sympathy. No be me go pity am.

Someone is revoking land allocations at will in Abuja; You don't see that as an abuse of power. But you want me to cry because a child when he was writing law exams called his bluff.

Not me, sir. Not me

Obi statement on supper eagles unpaid salary would have been left there rather than extrapolating it to the termed "Disgraced country"

Yeah it is okay from an ordinary citizen seeing the day to day activities to accept the adjective but from Obi whose ambition is to put forth positivity irrespective of where we stand

I fault him

BlueRayDick:
I just skimmed through our posts on Chelsea thread on 20th October 2020 and It surprised me that almost everybody holding brief for the APC government on this thread spoke against the shootings.

Only two people supported the actions and inactions of Buhari/Sanwoolu/the military that day. Those two people are Jude and DonJ. The third person (Don'tBullshitMe) repented that night after he saw the carnage the military caused that night.

How APC as a party was able to use propaganda sway people's opinion and suddenly made ENDSARS about Tinubu needs to be studied. APC fit no sabi much about good governance, but you see propaganda wey dey show result ? Give it to them!

I just had to put that there.

All of us were on that Chelsea thread. I cannot remember anybody calling Tinubu for Endsars killings. It was Buhari that was the accused, and everybody here was against him.

Before we will hear another story

izzou:
You have a piece of land in Abuja with your allocation

And one day, you hear it is revoked. If you don't have Lieutenants like the Vice Admiral, your land is gone. Deji Adeyanju said that banks no longer collect Land documents as collateral, because wetin you get today, may not be yours tomorrow.

You don't see that as abuse of power. But you want me to cry when he met his match.

I don't even know what to say when I see some kind support sef

No be Apc again? Why are you surprised?

popizaino:
This has to be some sort of exaggeration. That LGA no go even try and if he did,he would regret it for the rest of his life.

As for the young officer,he can be dealt with,those who sent him still need favour in one way or the other.

I have been educated as to the error of my capping