₦airaland Forum

ebukal67x:
Prof. Hon, you should know that the officer is a retired naval officer and not a serving one. That makes all your arguments moot.

Then he is a civilian because he is retired the more reason he should be careful with the law. Hope you know a lot of senators and reps are retired uniform personnel. And they make laws. The guy would have called his superior to informed him of ministers presence. But because do officer knows Wike on social media and has certain feelings towards him before now, he acted such.

Ttalk:
That's not a new thing in Nigeria where a strike force that eliminated members of nadeco were promoted, where BH were rehabilitated and enlisted into the Army, continue celebrating illegality because you don't like Wike, it will one day get to your doorstep

So a millitary officer refusing to obey a bloody civilian like wike is what you call illegality.
Go and read your books this boy.

aribisala0:
No it is not unilateral and you are talking theory that you don't know
There must be notice of acquisition and fair compensation must be paid
Notice must specify purpose and offer compensation
Unilateral would implying one party determined compensation or pays nothing . Section 30 allows court intervention if there is a dispute over compensation
It must be acquired for a public PURPOSE.


Government cannot acquire land and sit on it or share it to cronies

Let's build on a solid foundation to begin with, and having said that, you have the meaning of unilateral wrong. Unilateral means there is one deciding authority.

What you have done is a classic strawman argument: misdefine a word and argue against what was never said. Nobody said there is no process. I said there is only one authority with the power to issue and revoke rights of occupancy. Every stage of the process you described is still subject only to the governor's authority. It can only be challenged after the fact and on specific grounds. Nobody said the government can take land and give its cronies either.

What you are also missing is that all this grammar is irrelevant in this particular case because obviously, the claim is not that the property was revoked but that it was never issued in the first place.

What it boils down to is that in any case whatsoever, Wike is right and the Vice Admiral is wrong.

DB001:
Would you have said same thing if the site were to be yours? Can you go to any empty piece of land and start developing it? Please be reasonable for once and stop pretending not to have been in the country. It was late General Paul ogbebor's wife the other day, the list is just too long. Let your wike calm down, he's not going to be the last fct minister.

Unfortunuately you are more emotional than logical.

In respose to your question, yes, if it is my land , I would not commence development without appropriate approval, that is the way sane and sensible people behave.

When government officials visit ,you give them access and provide them with all required documentation.

loffyloffy:
The young officer was clearly disrespectful to the authority of Mr President, exercised through the office of the FCT minister.

It was realy unwise for him to say the land was legaly acquired, he is just a guared on site, he is not the lawyer of the owner of the land, and he is not authorised to hold brief on behalf of the owner. Mind you even if it is true that the land is legally acquired, Wike as the FCT minister have the authority to revoke the allocation of the Land.

Many people supporting the boy, are doing it out of their dislike for the govt in power, plus they cannot separate the office of the FCT minister from the person which in thod instance is Wike.

Wike did not visit the land as a private citizen, he was there as the FCT and has the full authority of the law backing him.

Tell us, what should the boy have done?

buygala:
Even if Wike had abused that officer's mother, he had no right whatsoever to retort at a Commander-in-Chief's representative

That officer's seniors in the armed forces call him and treat him far worse than a fool, and he dare not respond ...Sometimes, they even request he salutes and agrees with them on whatever insult they throw at him...

But this young man has the temerity , guts, and impetus to retort to an extant Minister acting directly under the authority of the Commander-in-Chief..That is same as retorting directly to the Commander-in-Chief...

Whether Wike had to call him a fool or not is irrelevant at this point...the question is if Tinubu who Wike was representing had been the one who called him a fool, would he have had the guts to retort?

Like I said earlier, even if Wike had insulted his mother, he dare not respond to him....An officer one rank above him in the military will tell him far worse and he must even salute to collect such insult...

.All he can do is take up his complaint up the proper channels, if wetin Wike talk vex am

The more one analyzes this whole issue, the more the worms come creeping out

The Army Brass that are standing with the officer for being "bold" etc, do they take such retorts and "boldness" from officers junior in rank to them?

If they won't take it, why should a duly appointed representative of the Commander-in-Chief take it?

Representating the president doesn't make you a president, stop taking this act of representation too far. Then the offices of ministers should hence be called "Representatives of the president".

He's just a Minister, he's not representating the president anywhere, this is not an occasion where the president is busy and sends you to represent him- that one everybody will understand you're representing the president there and will treat you accordingly.

This is not an occasion that Tinubu couldn't attend and sends Wike to represent him. This is Wike doing his job and the soldier also doing his job

Putindbutt:
Which yeye military guys will be demoralized?. An officer who blocked the way of a minister representing the President who is the C-in-C?. Is the order of a retired CNS bigger than that of the President?. You guys are joking too much.

Of all places, what is wike doing on the property if not looking for trouble?
What was well calculated event against wike and he fell for it. The issue has nothing to do with land but power.

Ttalk:
This is my position from my previous post.

First of all, you and me have to agree that the Minister acted in an undignified manner by his posture, utterances and mannerisms.

Going further, you know what the Military is like when you take orders from your superior. I cited the Sanwo-Olu case where the CSP, a very junior officer refused a sitting elected Governor on the orders of the IGP. That Officer will have faced more wrath from his superiors if he had faltered. In the military, it is obey the last order. Don't forget, the Minister called the CDS and gave the phone to the said Lt and the CDS who had authority to immediately give the directive didn't do that.

If the Vice Admiral didn't give a contrary order, the CDS didn't either, do you think Yerima should have shifted grounds? Yerima is a man under authority, the land is not his. Whether it is legal or illegal is outside his purview, he wouldn't even know even if the documents were showed to him. That's why he told the Minister to engage his superiors but the Minister raged on.

The honest truth is this, if that land is acquired legitimately or otherwise, it's not on that officer, it's for his superiors and the Minister ought to know better. You can see support from the military apparatchik because that's how they are trained. The Minister could have sat in his office and solved this issue very professionally. If you are that officer and your superior gives a mandate, will you flout same? As Wike is, if Tinubu gives him an order, can any other Minister or human being stand in his way, absolutely not. The land doesn't belong to the said Yerima don't forget. So whether it is legal or otherwise, it's not Wike to tutor him, he doesn't know, he is just a man under authority.

FaAbData:
Tell us, what should the boy have done?

Not exchange words with the minister, and give his employer a call.

That young man that you guys are celebrating here is sure to face a serious career uphill away from the press, no matter the amount of celebration he is receiving now.

He did not just disrespect the FCT minister, he disrespected the Authority of the president that appointed him.

FreeStuffsNG:
https://punchng.com/naval-officer-in-face-off-with-wike-breached-the-law-san/

Bunch of useless people everywhere, you're quoting the law now... When same Wike left his position as FCT minister and went down to Rivers State to obstruct governance where una dey with una useless law....... Them don serve am breakfast and all the Lands he's forcefully acquiring now, will also be forcefully taken from him when he leaves Office... After all we're in a lawless country... So who respects the law? Oga SAN go and rest all of una na same thing...

SmartyPants:
Let's build on a solid foundation to begin with, and having said that, you have the meaning of unilateral wrong. Unilateral means there is one deciding authority.

What you have done is a classic strawman argument: misdefine a word and argue against what was never said. Nobody said there is no process. I said there is only one authority with the power to issue and revoke rights of occupancy. Every stage of the process you described is still subject only to the governor's authority. It can only be challenged after the fact and on specific grounds. Nobody said the government can take land and give its cronies either.

What you are also missing is that all this grammar is irrelevant in this particular case because obviously, the claim is not that the property was revoked but that it was never issued in the first place.

What it boils down to is that in any case whatsoever, Wike is right and the Vice Admiral is wrong.

Learn how to take correction gracefully

You claimed Governors can seize land
You were wrong and ignorant

Instead of accepting correction with grace
Your weak ego feels it must win some silver and so you manufacture a meaningless argument

Unilateral is not that deep a word
It simply means one sided. It is not for you to unilaterally determine what it means ( pun intended)

Governors cannot seize land

They can acquire land compulsorily but there are checks and balances
They must give formal notice , pay compensation and they cannot unilaterally determine how much compensation
Acquired must be for a PURPOSE. It us subject to judicial review

(a) Section 44(1) of the Constitution

This section guarantees the right to property and provides that:

No movable or immovable property shall be compulsorily acquired except in the manner and for the purposes prescribed by law; and

The law must provide for the prompt payment of compensation; and

The person whose property is acquired must have access to a court of law or tribunal to determine:

His interest or right over the property;

The amount of compensation payable; and

The legality of the acquisition itself.



So please spare me the juvenile sophistry , it is tedious and boring

I am not debating whether Wike is right .
I merely corrected some misinformation you put out there

Governors CANNOT SEIZE LAND PERIOD

loffyloffy:
Not exchange words with the minister, and give his employer a call.

That young man that you guys are celebrating here is sure to face a serious career uphill away from the press, no matter the amount of celebration he is receiving now.

He did not just disrespect the FCT minister, he disrespected the Authority of the president that appointed him.

And you think the young officer is a nobody? Oga nothing go happen to am... He's father is also Influencial.... Na them them...... So weep for yourself and forget about the young man.....

buygala:
Even if Wike had abused that officer's mother, he had no right whatsoever to retort at a Commander-in-Chief's representative

That officer's seniors in the armed forces call him and treat him far worse than a fool, and he dare not respond ...Sometimes, they even request he salutes and agrees with them on whatever insult they throw at him...

But this young man has the temerity , guts, and impetus to retort to an extant Minister acting directly under the authority of the Commander-in-Chief..That is same as retorting directly to the Commander-in-Chief...

Whether Wike had to call him a fool or not is irrelevant at this point...the question is if Tinubu who Wike was representing had been the one who called him a fool, would he have had the guts to retort?

Like I said earlier, even if Wike had insulted his mother, he dare not respond to him....An officer one rank above him in the military will tell him far worse and he must even salute to collect such insult...

.All he can do is take up his complaint up the proper channels, if wetin Wike talk vex am

The more one analyzes this whole issue, the more the worms come creeping out

The Army Brass that are standing with the officer for being "bold" etc, do they take such retorts and "boldness" from officers junior in rank to them?

If they won't take it, why should a duly appointed representative of the Commander-in-Chief take it?

You just Dey talk talk talk. If the officer’s supreme commander insults him and he gives salute to the insult is that your concern ? Is wike a military officer?

aribisala0:
Learn how to take correction gracefully

You claimed Governors can seize land
You were wrong and ignorant

Instead of accepting correction with grace
Your weak ego feels it must win some silver and so you manufacture a meaningless argument

Unilateral is not that deep a word
It simply means one sided. It is not for you to unilaterally determine what it means ( pun intended)

Governors cannot seize land

They can acquire land compulsorily but there are checks and balances
They must give formal notice , pay compensation and they cannot unilaterally determine how much compensation
Acquired must be for a PURPOSE. It us subject to judicial review

So please spare me the juvenile sophistry , it is tedious and boring

I am not debating whether Wike is right .
I merely corrected some misinformation you put out there

Governors CANNOT SEIZE LAND PERIOD

Why are you going back to the question of the word seize? I clearly agreed with you there. Seizure is not the word. However, is the power of the governor and the FCT minister over land unilateral? Yes, it is by every definition, and no, it has nothing to do with the number of steps in the process. Consult your dictionary if in doubt, and rest.

You are doing nothing but exposing your own boring, recalcitrant attitude.

SmartyPants:


Why are you going back to the question of the word seize? I clearly agreed with you there. Seizure is not the word. However, is the power of the governor and the FCT minister over land unilateral? Yes, it is by every definition, and no, it has nothing to do with the number of steps in the process. Consult your dictionary if in doubt, and rest.

You are doing nothing but exposing your own boring, recalcitrant attitude.

That is why I quoted you
Governors cannot seize land
Period

All these nonsense you are bringing up is irrelevant
Governors cannot seize land

loffyloffy:
Unfortunuately you are more emotional than logical.

In respose to your question, yes, if it is my land , I would not commence development without appropriate approval, that is the way sane and sensible people behave.

When government officials visit ,you give them access and provide them with all required documentation.

I hear you... MR UPRIGHT... So he can revoke the land and also allocate same land to his Children illegally like he always do...... Oga nobody send am message.. Wike go there for illegal duty period.....

HgAkpobomeEr:
Officer Yerima was wrong. But Wike was also wrong for trying to force his way in.

wrong? Officer was obeying an order, but then why wike will be insulting our national image? The uniform is higher than wike, because the Officer can be a minister while wike can never be a 3 star in the military.

Ahn ahh
Shey wike wey call uniform man wey dey on full regalia 'fool' no breach any law?
Professor use sentiment talk sey make we forget sentiment 😁

This is pure hypocrisy at its peak.

fergie001:
You want my attention, now you will get it.

Listen and listen attentively, the powers of the C-in-C is not transferrable. Every Minister has administrative and policy control over his/her Ministry, but not operational control. Even the Vice President of Nigeria cannot order that soldier to stand down. Should I repeat myself?

When Jonathan was Acting President, he could not even fire the COAS because whilst you have policy control, the powers of the C-in-C is not transferrable, it vests only and only with the Commander-in-Chief. You can never have 2 C-in-Cs at any time. You dodged the thread where a CSP refused to obey Sanwo-Olu's order, I didn't see you there. You know why? He said he was under orders from the IGP.

Go and read the Armed Forces Act, only the CDS or CNS acting under the instruction of the President can order Lt. Yerima to stand down and they didn't.... You reason the matter yourself, how a CDS decided to ignore. This is because he will have to investigate a lot of things.

Even the Minister of Defence cannot order that soldier to stand down except from the orders of the President. We are talking about the operational control and command of the Army you are talking about a man who disgraced himself. Do you know how proud Lt Yerima's brass are proud of him? If Wike likes, he can go there a million times, he won't be allowed past that spot unless the President so orders ...any other question?

This is highly disappointing from you. The armed forces act is subordinate to the constitution. The land use act clearly gives land jurisdiction to Wike acting as fct minister. What was the officer doing in a private land? Abeg, rest this matter

Akpakomiza2:
This is highly disappointing from you. The armed forces act is subordinate to the constitution. The land use act clearly gives land jurisdiction to Wike acting as fct minister. What was the officer doing in a private land? Abeg, rest this matter

Sometimes ehn supporting blindly can make someone just.....
In 2025, you are still doing this thing ... Supporting whatever your party regurgitates. A military man under authority from his superiors was assigned a duty, a Minister walks in and tells him to disobey and he said No, please call my superiors. The Minister calls his superiors and they didn't give the military man a contrary order and he stayed put.

You left the man who was disgracing himself on National TV and call me a disappointment, anyways no be you dey pay me sha

San were dey lie
The Nigerian Army's mission is to defend Nigeria's sovereignty and territorial integrity against all internal and external threats, as mandated by the constitution. This includes protecting citizens, maintaining law and order, and supporting civil authorities to restore peace during insurrections or other crises.
I classify this has OTHER CRISES. #NIGERIA #GODBLESSNIGERIA #GODBLESSNIGERIAARMY #GODBLESSNIGERIANAVY #GODBLESSNIGERIAAIRFORCE #THANKYOUFORYOURSERVICES #integrity

FreeStuffsNG:
https://punchng.com/naval-officer-in-face-off-with-wike-breached-the-law-san/

If he wants to practice favoritism, he should do that at his own risk by creating his own private company and using his personal estate, not Nigeria’s land
Under Nigerian law, land can only be revoked for public interest, such as when building a community school, hospital, road, market, or other public facility. Anything outside that is illegal.
Revoking one person’s land just to give it to another individual or company is favoritism and a violation of the law. Nigeria is not a personal business or a private company.
Now tell me, who is the lawless one
Lt AM Yarima fought for all Nigerians that very day. It is a reminder that holding political appointments does not give you the power to abuse citizens' right to own property anywhere in Nigeria.

fergie001:
First of all, you and me have to agree that the Minister acted in an undignified manner by his posture, utterances and mannerisms.

Going further, you know what the Military is like when you take orders from your superior. I cited the Sanwo-Olu case where the CSP, a very junior officer refused a sitting elected Governor on the orders of the IGP. That Officer will have faced more wrath from his superiors if he had faltered. In the military, it is obey the last order. Don't forget, the Minister called the CDS and gave the phone to the said Lt and the CDS who had authority to immediately give the directive didn't do that.

If the Vice Admiral didn't give a contrary order, the CDS didn't either, do you think Yerima should have shifted grounds? Yerima is a man under authority, the land is not his. Whether it is legal or illegal is outside his purview, he wouldn't even know even if the documents were showed to him. That's why he told the Minister to engage his superiors but the Minister raged on.

The honest truth is this, if that land is acquired legitimately or otherwise, it's not on that officer, it's for his superiors and the Minister ought to know better. You can see support from the military apparatchik because that's how they are trained. The Minister could have sat in his office and solved this issue very professionally. If you are that officer and your superior gives a mandate, will you flout same? As Wike is, if Tinubu gives him an order, can any other Minister or human being stand in his way, absolutely not. The land doesn't belong to the said Yerima don't forget. So whether it is legal or otherwise, it's not Wike to tutor him, he doesn't know, he is just a man under authority.

I can see how you deliberately ignore my submission only to dwell on the attitude of the characters involved while leaving the main issue that bothers about rule, law and order. You are not in position to tell the public the rules and command procedures of the military, that should be left for the military spokesperson to tell the public why it's right under Nigeria constitution for a Lieutenant to prevent a serving minister from performing his duty.

Under no circumstances in a democratic setting should a Naval officer be deployed to guide a private property, is the property a national asset? Or being threatened by bandit or external threat?

Why will a retired CNS deploy a platoon of military to guide his property? If other retired generals have military guiding their properties which military personnel will remain to protect the people and fight insurgency?

Stop dwelling on moral angle of the matter as that's where emotion comes in.

We should build a strong institution that could contain individual character and excesses behaviour of the people that mount those institutions,

The CNS actions are action that destroyed our institutions, his order is illegal in a democratic setting and shouldn't be condoned.

The president has the prerogative to address the attitude of his minister if it embarrasses him, that is none of you or my business, our civil obligation is to ensure that our institutions are preserved and not polluted by military doctrine that is not allowed in a civilian rule through our objective contribution guided by the rule of law

MadMonk:
This is completely misleading! Wike ought to have dealt with the matter at the Command level of the Navy or the Arned Forces through the CDS or even the ONSA. The order given to that Lieutenant to secure that site was not palpably or manifestly illegal. If the young officer had chosen to stand down and proceeded to leave the site, charges like disobedience to lawful order, insurbordination or conduct contrary to service discipline etc would have ensued before a court martial and that could easily end the officer's career. A military personnel given orders by a 3 Star commander to lead armed personnel to secure a site cannot possibly seek legal opinion from the legal department of his service arm before obeying the order. He cannot also ask for the title documents of the property before deciding whether to obey the order or not. So, how was AM Yerima supposed to determine that the order given to him was illegal in these circumstances?
A similar incident occurred at Magodo, Lagos, when a police was asked to leave the estate where he was leading a team of policemen on a mission to protect property, allegedly on the orders of the IG. The policeman refused to obey the Governor. When the governor asked him to call his superiors on the phone to inform them that he had been ordered to leave the estate, the policeman responded by saying he was too small to call his superiors and that the governor should do so himself.

AM Yerima was right to have refused to take orders from Wike which derogated from the orders given to him by his Commander. Wike had a choice to go over and above AM Yerima to sort out the issue but chose his regular route of intimidation instead. Of course, the tactic backfired spectacularly this time around and he doesn't deserve any pity at all. Even Wike himself implied that the only reason he left the place in the end was because the CDS intervened. But it's Instructive to note that the CDS, a 4 Star General, didn't order AM Yerima to leave the site! It can only go to show the lad was right all along and acted professionally. The idea or argument that Lieutenant AM Lawal acted outside the law by refusing to trade the orders of his commanders for those of Wike cannot be right!

Una go just dey quote wetin una no understand.
How was that a lawful order? A case that is 100% civil is the one you are bringing soldiers to intimidate everyone instead of going to the court.

Is the said piece of land a military property?

Sending your military boys to chase away and beat up anyone that comes near a piece of land that you have no title to is called trespassing and AM Yerima was trespassing on that land if you are to look at the legality of the situation.


Keep encouraging military impunity just because you hate Wike... No worry E go reach your turn.

"Naval-officer-in-face-off-with-wike-breached-the-law-san".
SUPPORTED!!!

AND THE DRAMA STINKS OF "COME BACK BOKOHARAM AND FULANI HERDSMEN TERRORISM".

WHAT IS BURAITAI SAYING?

IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SC-SUPER COUPIST'S CLUB WANTS ANOTHER DEMENTED RETIRED NORTHERN NIGERIA GENERAL FOR MACBAN, THE NW COUNCIL OF EMIRS AND GOVERNORS AND A CANDIDATE THAT THEY WILL SUPPORT FOR THE PRESIDENCY.

loffyloffy:
Not exchange words with the minister, and give his employer a call.

That young man that you guys are celebrating here is sure to face a serious career uphill away from the press, no matter the amount of celebration he is receiving now.

He did not just disrespect the FCT minister, he disrespected the Authority of the president that appointed him.

He didn't exchange words, he was only correcting the minister that he isn a fool. He was calm and slow to talk, he was talking in phrases.

His C-I-C is the president, he's also doing his duty to the president

He doesn't need to give his employee a call, that won't change anything, he has already been told what do. The calling is on Wike, and he did but nothing happened.

Please understand that Wike isn't God. He is a public servant, he can be talked to or even insulted if he deserves it- especially when his insulting someone aswell. Talking back at Wike isn't a crime, who is he?

Suspend my foot!!!

FreeStuffsNG:
Mr. Wike stood in loco the President of Nigeria and Commander-in-Chief of the Nigerian Armed Forces on that fateful day. Consequently, even if the superior officer were still in service, he would not disobey Mr. Wike or obstruct him from entering the land. This was an affront to the civil authority of Mr. President.

The Minister’s method may be brash; but it is legal and lawful in all respects. Rather, it is the officer who obstructed him that has breached not just the Nigerian Constitution, but also service and extant regulatory laws. For the avoidance of any doubt, section 114 of the Armed Forces Act makes military personnel criminally liable for civil offences. This means the officer in question could be arraigned before a Court Martial for obstructing a public officer from performing his public duties, et cetera.

Patriotic Nigerians have started talking.

The least FG and the Military authorities can do right now is to immediately suspend him while preparing for his arraignment.

My brother you wrote well... The DSS agents knew from the video I watched that if Bullets were to start flying,the Military guys were on Body Armor (bullet proof vest). They were just wise not to escalate the situation further.but trust our Nigeria Finest,the NPF they just like to over do. Forgetting that Overzealousness kills.

Sangoamadioha1:
The naval officer was acting under instructions. Wike should have taken up the issue with the naval officer's boss and not resort to insulting the young officer.
As wike was carrying out his duty so also the young officer was also carrying out his own instructions.
Wike should be dealing with the young man's boss but him, having some misplaced delusions of grandeur, felt he can bully the young officer. No NDA graduate will succumb to such bullying tactics.
Wike is under the authority of the president just as the naval officer is under the authority of the C-in C. The young officer is not under Wike's authority.
Notice how the DSS and the policemen (with the exception of one over zealous policeman) did not attempt to wade into the matter because they know the young man was acting under instructions of his superior officer.

fergie001:
Sometimes ehn supporting blindly can make someone just.....
In 2025, you are still doing this thing ... Supporting whatever your party regurgitates. A military man under authority from his superiors was assigned a duty, a Minister walks in and tells him to disobey and he said No, please call my superiors. The Minister calls his superiors and they didn't give the military man a contrary order and he stayed put.

You left the man who was disgracing himself on National TV and call me a disappointment, anyways no be you dey pay me sha

Sorry about the words I used, sometimes I over stretch things. While wike was very wrong in his manner of approach and words, anything land in the fct is his purview. The navy has no business on land except it is a navy land but I understand it is a private land which strengthens wike's case. Again, it is very likely that the land was fraudulently purchased by the rtd admiral. We can't look pass the facts about the land matter

Vision101:
Every land belongs to government. The most that you can get if you have valid documentation is compensation. If you don't know the law ask Nnamdi Kanu

I will answer you when Wike makes the compensation.

mascot87:
Don't mind those clowns supporting nonsense because they hate Wike. So if a senior ranking officer gives an order to kpai there agalu fraud tomorrow and the order was well executed, hope they will support the executioner as only following orders.

Most of you are just ignorant in arrogance!
Why would you want to shoot an unarmed defenceless person ?
That is against the rules of engagement in the military!