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IGpro1:
Scared?

Yep, scared of losing a major ally on the African continent to their rival

Jewish/Boer false flag operations have started in time for the G20 summit... Just like I predicted

GreenandGold:
Jewish/Boer false flag operations have started in time for the G20 summit... Just like I predicted

They're not very smart, are they. Apart from using pics from other countries' conflicts for their fake "white genocide", they lazily re-use photos almost as if reverse image search isn't a thing. This particular specimen was first deployed in 2019!

Fct minister was disrespecting an army officer, when the coo starts, don't 😭

Ghostagain:
Fct minister was disrespecting an army officer, when the coo starts, don't 😭

What do you mean by disrespect, why do the military get involve in civil matters and who gave the order to stop the FCDA officials, this is what need to be investigated and who is found guilty should resign his position or face the law.....this are the reason that we are still back words..............someone just woke up start typing rubbish on Nairaland "Minister disrespecting an army officer"

jteku:
What do you mean by disrespect, why do the military get involve in civil matters and who gave the order to stop the FCDA officials, this is what need to be investigated and who is found guilty should resign his position or face the law.....this are the reason that we are still back words..............someone just woke up start typing rubbish on Nairaland "Minister disrespecting an army officer"

Make una de play first. Wike in cahoots with the presidency woke up and handed the mandate of a governor to a rtd CNS. A whole state! It's a piece of land that y'all are talking about the law for now? LMAO

I AM NOT A FOOL


Look, I used to live in the barracks, all the blabla you just said is inconsequential. What matters is that in every barrack what the military personnel saw was a corrupt political class disrespecting the military. Each Nigerian soldier, retired or actif is fuming right now.

This reminds me of the prelude to the Gideon Orka coup. Soldiers value honour in a way most civilians in Nigeria might not understand. These are people who basically die for their honour and their oath.

Fct minister, whom has never been shot at in his life, needs to show more respect for people who put themselves in the line of fire between civilians and terrorists. When was the last time the fct minister or president or any politician for that matter went into the trenches and fought against boko haram ?

If I were to be that young officer, I would have ordered the minister's entourage to not get up to 1 metre near me and my men would have stood in fighting position aiming their guns at the Entourage. If the minister insults me, I have my men arrest him. (I'ld lose my job, but he would lose his tooth).

This is coming from me, a guy who likes Wike.

jteku:
What do you mean by disrespect, why do the military get involve in civil matters and who gave the order to stop the FCDA officials, this is what need to be investigated and who is found guilty should resign his position or face the law.....this are the reason that we are still back words..............someone just woke up start typing rubbish on Nairaland "Minister disrespecting an army officer"

Nigerian military is still not investing in drone warfare 😓
The next insurgent group will be very drone savvy and would destroy the Nigerian military as a result of that.

Nawa o, it is as if we re all born in this country as a form of punishment.
If basic rule of law is alien to majority of the populace, don't yall see this country is not even a functioning one to begin with.
This is the effect of past military regime that has once ruled this country. The arrogance is still in them.
I thing we need a serious leader to put everyone in check in this country including uniformed men, politicians and civilians alike.
Imagine a lieutenant standing up to a minister/governor of the federal capital.
And we see all alot of people suffering from Stockholm syndrome supporting him.
A newly commissioned office wey never even pass 5 years of been commissioned.
We re done for in this country.
If emotion, politics, religion and what not can supercedes constitution/rule of law in this country.
Well I can't help, we still need alot to learn concerning this democracy.
It is painful seeing educated people supporting the total disregard of civil law by uniformed men jst because they dislike the the minister. Isn't this madness.
Funny thing is this lawlessness go touch everybody.
If u haven't been affected by it don't worry it will get to u in no time.
If some illerate soldiers can walk into a community and start wrecking havoc on civilians because they were given order by an equally illiterate senior officer nd we have equally miseducated zombies supporting them. Una never know wetin dey worry una.

Ministers are appointed, governors are voted in. So it is not the same thing.

Show me the position of the minister in the military chain of command.

If you want to have a military, you should learn how it works. Being a minister doesn't mean you can give orders to soldiers and officers. You need to follow the chain of command.

Disrespecting a soldier or an officer is not permitted even for the president.

You don't understand the military and you don't understand democracy. In a democracy, ministers and presidents work for the people, they are not above the people, they are under the people, so they are not entitled to "who are you" attacks, nor to calling an officer "a fool".

QuietMynd:
Nawa o, it is as if we re all born in this country as a form of punishment.
If basic rule of law is alien to majority of the populace, don't yall see this country is not even a functioning one to begin with.
This is effect of past military regime that has once ruled this country. The arrogance is still in them.
I thing we need a serious leader to put everyone in check in this country including uniformed men, politicians and civilians alike.
Imagine a lieutenant standing up to a minister/governor of the federal capital.
And we see all alot of people suffering from Stockholm syndrome supporting him.
A newly commissioned office wey never even pass 5 years of been commissioned.
We re done for in this country.
If emotion, politics, religion and what not can supercedes constitution/rule of law in this country.
Well I can't help, we still need alot to learn concerning this democracy.

Some people think they are operating democracy while worshipping civil servants instead of asking the civil servants to serve.

See how the guy above is fuming because a lieutenant dared to stand up to a minister. In that commenter's head, the officer should have prostrated for the ministers and licked the minister's shoes. That commenter thinks civil servants are like kings and the people should be serving the civil servants, that is what he thinks democracy is about.

Replacing military dictators with civilian dictators: democracy. 😓

Ghostagain:
Ministers are appointed, governors are voted in. Do it is not the same thing.

Show me the position of the minister in the military chain of command.

If you want to have a military, you should learn how it works. Being a minister doesn't mean you can give orders to soldiers and officers. You need to follow the chain of command.

You should take ur own advise to know military institutions nd civilians institutions re different and military has no jurisdiction in the civilians space nd likewise civilians doesn't have in the military space except in situation where state of emergency has been declared.
Learn ur constitution, it will save u alot.
We re in a democracy for God sake not a military regime where military reign supreme.
" Whatever authority the military has start and ends in their barracks whenever they leave their barrack to the civilian space they re to respect and obey the civilian laws and authority."
Even former chief of army staff Mr taoreed lagbaja alluded to the highlighted when lagos govnor arrested one recalcitrant soldier for passing one way in Lagos few years back.
Consult the constitution so that you can know your civil right so has not for it to be violated by one illiterate bully in uniform.

Some people think they are operating democracy while worshipping civil servants instead of asking the civil servants to serve.

See how the guy above is fuming because a lieutenant dared to stand up to a minister. In that commenter's head, the officer should have prostrated for the minister and licked the minister's shoes. That commenter thinks civil servants are like kings and the people should be serving the civil servants, that is what he thinks democracy is about.

Replacing military dictators with civilian dictators: democracy. 😓

Mr man, of you want soldiers to be treated with zero respect then you should first make conscription compulsory for upon reaching 18 years of age. Let everybody go through military training and dangers and duty, then from that point, you can start insulting an officer in the streets if you want.

But while you've never put your life on danger to protect the country and its people how dare you disrespect an officer? Or support someone doing so ?

The soldier was even telling a policeman he is his senior. As how na.
We need to question what some of our military men re been taught in our military institutions.
High handedness is rife within the rank and file.
It is embarrassing. If you check the quality of the other rank in the nigerian military and compare it to the other rank of other countries, you will know we re raising terrible men in the military.
Only the airforce is a little bit different.

You seem to not understand the concept of "acting on orders".
Contrary to you, I've leaved in more civilised countries.

Soldiers can be given orders to perform withing the country.

The fact that soldiers don't have jurisdiction out of the barracks is greatly misunderstood by you. Indeed soldiers are not policemen, the question of jurisdiction doesn't even make sense in their case, they are not policemen. However the military police are the soldiers for whom jurisdiction makes sense.

When a soldier is given a duty to perform inside the country and outside the barracks, don't bring up your "jurisdiction" talk, it makes no sense. To interfer with the mission, you need to adress the chain of command.

It is not lost on me that you don't seem to know the difference between a soldier acting without orders and a soldier acting with orders. I don't have time to explain the difference to you. I only hope you are smart enough to do the research.


The officer in this case kept repeating that he was acting on orders...

This annoys me because I actually like Wike. But I'm also a truth teller. I can't stand people when they try to deform reality.

QuietMynd:
You should take ur own advise to know military institutions nd civilians institutions re different and military has no jurisdiction in the civilians space nd likewise civilians also except in a situation where state of emergency has been declared.
Learn ur constitution, it will save u alot.
We re in a democracy for God sake not a military regime where military reign supreme.
" Whatever authority the military has start and ends in their barracks whenever they leave their barrack to the civilian space they re to respect and obey the civilian laws and authority."
Even former chief of army start Mr taoreed lagbaja alluded to the highlighted when lagos govnor arrested one recalcitrant soldier for passing one way in Lagos few years back.
Consult the constitution so that you can know your civil right so has not for it to violated by one illiterate bully in uniform.

Ghostagain:
You seem to not understand the concept of "acting on orders".
Contrary to you, I've leaved in more civilised countries.

Soldiers can be given orders to perform withing the country.

The fact that soldiers don't have jurisdiction out of the barracks is greatly misunderstood by you. Indeed soldiers are not policemen, the question of jurisdiction doesn't even make sense in their case, they are not policemen. However the military police are the soldiers for whom jurisdiction makes sense.

When a soldier is given a duty to perform inside the country and outside the barracks, don't bring up your "jurisdiction" talk, it makes no sense. To interfer with the mission, you need to adress the chain of command.

Jst admit u re wrong initially concerning the limit and jurisdiction of soldiers in a civilian space.
That aside, on the issue of other. That order is even an illegal one.
That soldier is an orderly to a retired officer. There is limit to the errand the soldier can be sent.
You re telling me if the rtd officer sent the soldier on an illegal land grabbing errand which is against the military ethics themselves and can put the soldier in serious trouble, he should carry it out because all order na order. Whether moraly right or wrong.
The rtd officer actually knows what he is doing, if he had the necessary document backing up the land, do u think he will send soldiers there in the first place.

Rather than presenting logical arguments, you want me to just give up and start singing your praises 🤣
Are you ok dude?
I've shown you that you were wrong.

You seem confused and emotional.
I've explained it all, but you want to continue arguing and you want me to just start singing your praises. 😓
I don't feel like addressing your comment point by point because it looks like it comes from the brain of a kid. You can do better than this.

QuietMynd:
Jst admit u re wrong initially concerning the limit and jurisdiction of soldiers in a civilian space.
That aside, on the issue of other. That order is even an illegal one.
That soldier is an orderly to a retired officer. There is limit to the errand the soldier can be sent.
You re telling me if the rtd officer sent the soldier on an illegal land grabbing errand which is against the military ethics themselves and can put the soldier in serious trouble, he should carry it out because all order na order. Whether moraly right or wrong.
The rtd officer actually knows what he is doing, if he had the necessary document backing up the land, do u think he will send soldiers there in the first place.

Una go do stunts until you tear ACL

"A newly commissioned officer yadiyadiyada"

It is the years of thuggery and demagogy that has affected Wike's appreciation of the decorum for exercising governmental powers.
Suddenly a rtd CNS holds no weight to him when just this year, in cahoots with the president sacked an elected governor and replaced him with... a rtd CNS!

Wike's doltishness was further on display post the CDS call to the lieutenant. The chain of command the lad is bound to upheld his orders and what did Wike resort to? "You're a fool" etc

It is mentally weakness to single the lad as low hanging fruit. The penchant of the average Nigerian to start from belittling.

I'd not even waste my time responding to that silly red herring in the bolded

QuietMynd:
Nawa o, it is as if we re all born in this country as a form of punishment.
If basic rule of law is alien to majority of the populace, don't yall see this country is not even a functioning one to begin with.
This is the effect of past military regime that has once ruled this country. The arrogance is still in them.
I thing we need a serious leader to put everyone in check in this country including uniformed men, politicians and civilians alike.
Imagine a lieutenant standing up to a minister/governor of the federal capital.
And we see all alot of people suffering from Stockholm syndrome supporting him.
A newly commissioned office wey never even pass 5 years of been commissioned.
We re done for in this country.
If emotion, politics, religion and what not can supercedes constitution/rule of law in this country.
Well I can't help, we still need alot to learn concerning this democracy.
It is painful seeing educated people supporting the total disregard of civil law by uniformed men jst because they dislike the the minister. Isn't this madness.
Funny thing is this lawlessness go touch everybody.
If u haven't been affected by it don't worry it will get to u in no time.
If some illerate soldiers can walk into a community and start wrecking havoc on civilians because they were given order by an equally illiterate senior officer nd we have equally miseducated zombies supporting them. Una never know wetin dey worry una.

QuietMynd:
The soldier was even telling a policeman he is his senior. As how na.
We need to question what some of our military men re been taught in our military institutions.
High handedness is rife within the rank and file.
It is embarrassing. If you check the quality of the other rank in the nigerian military and compare it to the other rank of other countries, you will know we re raising terrible men in the military.
Only the airforce is a little bit different.

Will you be paid for ignorant arguments?

You don't know what seniority in rank is? Educate yourself na

Odunayaw:
Una go do stunts until you tear ACL

"A newly commissioned officer yadiyadiyada"

It is the years of thuggery and demagogy that has affected Wike's appreciation of the decorum for exercising governmental powers.
Suddenly a rtd CNS holds no weight to him when just this year, in cahoots with the president sacked an elected governor and replaced him with... a rtd CNS!

Wike's doltishness was further on display post the CDS call to the lieutenant. The chain of command the lad is bound to upheld his orders and what did Wike resort to? "You're a fool" etc

It is mentally weakness to single the lad as low hanging fruit. The penchant of the average Nigerian to start from belittling.

I'd not even waste my time responding to that silly red herring in the bolded

It seems u have issue with wike
Trust me I don't care about him, am not a fan of him either. All I care about is the rule of law.
Let everyone knows their limit, where there authority and jurisdiction starts and ends.
We can't keep running a country with our anyhowness ways. That's a symptom of banana Republic, that shows to the world we re a third world where anything goes. All this re already evident in our society where soldiers will barge into electricity distribution company and beat their staff up for doing their lawful duty of disconnecting the power of anyone owing them.
I don't see anyone supporting the military guys now condem them then.
Maybe because none of anyone relative were not among those violated continously for two days then.
I hate hypocrisy

Ghostagain:
I AM NOT A FOOL


What matters is that in every barrack what the military personnel saw was a corrupt political class disrespecting the military.

This here is what I've cleaned from the people I have. Both serving and rtd

Shut up! You're a fool! You were still in primary school when xyz

That's the power drunk language of the low quality politicians in abundance in the country. It takes contempt to utter such puerility

People who convert policeman to handbag carriers, DSS to errand boys are only mad they couldn't do same with that Lt.

I mean, the daft Wike called the CDS, he has access to him, what was the market thug face off necessary for?

Once again, soldiers are not policemen. The concept of jurisdiction doesn't even make sense for soldiers except those of the military police. You are slow to learn.

QuietMynd:
It seems u have issue with wike
Trust me I don't care about him, am not a fan of him either. All I care about is the rule of law.
Let everyone knows their limit, where there authority and jurisdiction starts and ends.
We can't keep running a country with our anyhowness ways. That's a symptom of banana Republic, that shows to the world we re a third world where anything goes. All this re already evident in our society where soldiers will barge into electricity distribution company and beat their staff up for doing their lawful duty of disconnecting the power of anyone owing them.
I don't see anyone supporting the military guys now condem them then.
Maybe because none of anyone relative were not among those violated continously for two days then.
I hate hypocrisy

QuietMynd:
It seems u have issue with wike
Trust me I don't care about him, am not a fan of him either. All I care about is the rule of law.
Let everyone knows their limit, where there authority and jurisdiction starts and ends.
We can't keep running a country with our anyhowness ways. That's a symptom of banana Republic, that shows to the world we re a third world where anything goes. All this re already evident in our society where soldiers will barge into electricity distribution company and beat their staff up for doing their lawful duty of disconnecting the power of anyone owing them.
I don't see anyone supporting the military guys now condem them then.
Maybe because none of anyone relative were not among those violated continously for two days then.
I hate hypocrisy

Look, face this particular case. Don't drag me into red herrings.

Pray tell, what is the rule of law in this particular case

Odunayaw:
Will you be paid for ignorant arguments?

You don't know what seniority in rank is? Educate yourself na

Rubbish talk.
Wetin concern we civilian with the seniority in ur rank nd file in the military. Are we in the military with y'all.
Since y'all have sworn not not to respect civilian authority, we also careless about the authority in the military.
Respect is reciprocal.
Yall suffering from Stockholm syndrome.
All it take is to find urself in the military then u become a demi god and do as u like to the civilian around u.
Rubbish nd ingredient
Lawless country.
An O level dropout that has no prospect in the society will get the military uniform and start dishing order to an MSc holder because they carry uniform give am.
Even lieutenant talking back to a whole minister.
Minister small 4 ur own eye

In case you are unaware, all officers have at least a bachelor, I think NDA awards master's degree nowadays.
That young officer most likely has a master's degree.

QuietMynd:
An O level dropout that has no prospect in the society will get the military uniform and start dishing order to an MSc holder because they carry uniform give am.
Even lieutenant talking back to a whole minister.
Minister small 4 ur own eye

Once again. A minister is a civil SERVANT, not a King. Your brand of democracy is very strange.

QuietMynd:
Even lieutenant talking back to a whole minister.
Minister small 4 ur own eye

I have my personal reasons for liking Wike, I only think he was wrong in this instance. Him and all Nigeria's political class need to learn that they are SERVENTS, not Kings. They owe the average joe respect and they owe soldiers even more respect.

I didn't follow the story about removing the governor of rivers. I don't know the facts, but if what some people are saying is true, then the removal of that governor is an other act of banditry by the president.

Odunayaw:
This here is what I've cleaned from the people I have. Both serving and rtd

Shut up! You're a fool! You were still in primary school when xyz

That's the power drunk language of the low quality politicians in abundance in the country. It takes contempt to utter such puerility

People who convert policeman to handbag carriers, DSS to errand boys are only mad they couldn't do same with that Lt.

I mean, the daft Wike called the CDS, he has access to him, what was the market thug face off necessary for?

Quietmynd, are you the one banning your opponents with the use of moderator privileges ?

It seems winning an argument against you gets a person a ban.