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RealLordZeus:
While I agree to your point technically although not morally possible..
Now show me another religion or civic law that limits the number of divorce a person can have

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Catholics dont even accept divorce at all!
PS: I am not Catholic, I am not religious.

BlackfireX:
In Islam you can divorce a woman by saying I divorce you 3 or 4 times


Then simply take another one

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Exactly. So that limitation to four sef, na high sense.

What kind of judgement does Islam have for a man engaging in polygamy when he does not obey the above listed dos and don'ts?
My observation as a grown-up person is that majority of men engaging in polygamy using Islamic belief as a reason are majorly irresponsible. How can a man with low income be thinking of marrying many wives if not that something is wrong with him? Most of these polygamists are the origin of poverty we are seeing in our society today

DeepSight:
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Catholics dont even accept divorce at all!
PS: I am not Catholic, I am not religious.

Thanks for the enlightenment about Catholics although what I am after are those that accept divorce then limits it because to me It doesn't make sense, if you are not going to allow it like the Catholics , I can understand that ..
Back to your original post, I indicated then that it is not morally possible because divorce in Islam is not just about pronouncement, it has a process..

Infact some scholars are of the view that “The most hated of permissible things to Allah is divorce.” and it is generally acceptable among all Muslim Scholars that Divorce is a reprehensible act.
Some scholars said you cannot even say your wife is cheating based on hearsay, it has to be a hard evidence.
That shows that the rules are set to make divorce harder.

Back to the process, there has to be a waiting period of 3 months during which the wife must be leaving under the roof of the where it is hoped that there will be a resolution except if there may a case of harm to one of the partners..
So you see my friend Deepsight, I understand that there are a lot bad perceptions about the religion but if you understand the rules, you will be able to sift the falsehood from the truths

RealLordZeus:
And what does the gibberish above means..
This is why it is agreed that only a sensible person can cheat .. even if you are going to use AI you must have a little something upstairs that can prompt effectively.

I requested for an Islamic law that said[b] "A woman can marry illegitimate child"[/b] as insinuated in your original post.


This is the fact you brought out..
How does the above relate..

Children from Zina are Halal to their father

Rashduct4luv:
In Surah An-Nisa (4:129). Allah says what means:
"You will never be able to do perfect justice between wives even if it is your ardent desire, so do not incline too much to one of them (by giving her more of your time and provision) so as to leave the other hanging (i.e. neither divorced nor married). And if you do justice, and do all that is right and fear Allah by keeping away from all that is wrong, then Allah is Ever Oft­Forgiving, Most Merciful."

Navigating the complexities of an Islamic polygamous home requires understanding, compassion, and adherence to Islamic principles. Here’s a guide listing ten dos and ten don’ts to help couples maintain harmony and fulfill their responsibilities in such relationships.

10 Dos in an Islamic Polygamous Home
1. Ensure Financial Stability
Make sure you have the financial means to support all wives and their children adequately.
Qur'an Reference: Surah An-Nisa (4:3) - "And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four..."

2. Treat All Wives Equally
Strive to provide equal time, attention, and resources to each wife.
Hadith Reference: Ibn Majah - "He who has two wives and does not treat them equally will come on the Day of Judgment with a side of his body hanging down."

3. Communicate Openly
Foster an environment of open communication where all wives can express their feelings and concerns.

4. Respect Individual Needs
Recognize and respect the individual needs and preferences of each wife, ensuring they feel valued.

5. Seek Knowledge
Continuously educate yourself about the rights and responsibilities of polygamous marriages through Islamic teachings.

6. Involve Wives in Decision-Making
Include all wives in important family decisions to promote unity and respect.

7. Maintain a Supportive Environment
Create a home atmosphere that encourages cooperation and support among all family members.

8. Be Patient and Understanding
Understand that emotions can run high in a polygamous setting; practice patience and empathy.

9. Encourage Family Activities
Plan family gatherings and activities that include all wives and children to strengthen family bonds.

10. Pray for Guidance
Regularly pray for wisdom and guidance in managing your responsibilities and relationships.

10 Don’ts in an Islamic Polygamous Home
1. Do Not Favor One Wife Over Another
Avoid showing favoritism, as it can lead to jealousy and discord.
Hadith Reference: Ibn Majah - "He who has two wives and does not treat them equally will come on the Day of Judgment with a side of his body hanging down."

2. Do Not Neglect Emotional Needs
Failing to address the emotional needs of each wife can lead to feelings of inadequacy and resentment.

3. Do Not Hide Financial Matters
Transparency in financial dealings is crucial; do not hide financial issues from any wife.

4. Do Not Ignore the Children’s Needs
Ensure that all children receive equal attention and support, regardless of which wife they belong to.

5. Do Not Engage in Gossip
Avoid discussing one wife with another in a negative light, as this can create mistrust.

6. Do Not Rush into Decisions
Take your time when making decisions that affect the family; hasty choices can lead to regret.

7. Do Not Allow External Influences
Protect your family from outside opinions that may disrupt harmony within the home.

8. Do Not Forget the Importance of Intimacy
Ensure that all wives feel loved and cherished; neglecting intimacy can lead to emotional distance.

9. Do Not Overlook Islamic Teachings
Always refer back to the Qur'an and Hadith for guidance in your actions and decisions.

10. Do Not Lose Sight of Your Responsibilities
Remember that with the privilege of polygamy comes the responsibility to treat all wives justly and fairly.

Conclusion
Polygamy in Islam is a significant responsibility that requires careful consideration and adherence to Islamic principles. By following these dos and don’ts, couples can create a harmonious and loving environment that honors the teachings of Islam. Remember, the key to a successful polygamous marriage lies in justice, compassion, and mutual respect.

Exactly where did you come up with this list?

Why is it okay to Marry and consumate marriage with 9 year old girls in Islam

aribisala0:
What dies it mean to treat people equally how is that defined and why is it impossible?

According to the op:
2. Treat All Wives Equally
Strive to provide equal time, attention, and resources to each wife.
Hadith Reference: Ibn Majah - "He who has two wives and does not treat them equally will come on the Day of Judgment with a side of his body hanging down."

Ekrenji:
According to the op:
2. Treat All Wives Equally
Strive to provide equal time, attention, and resources to each wife.
Hadith Reference: Ibn Majah - "He who has two wives and does not treat them equally will come on the Day of Judgment with a side of his body hanging down."

Thanks but that is not what I asked
I asked about people not wives
Let us define that first if possible

What does it mean to treat people equally

So for example in a country what does it mean to treat citizens equally or a school to treat pupils equally

With all these dos and don'ts it simply means, one man one wife. No more no less.

Polygamy should be abolished in islam, Muslims including poor ones hide under it to marry and born plenty children born into poverty that are easily raw materials for bandits, Islamic terrorism, polygamous conflict and infighting. It breads poverty. Okada man will hide under he can treat all women equally till he breeds poor children that may end up contributing their own vices to the world due to poverty.

aribisala0:
Thanks but that is not what I asked
I asked about people not wives
Let us define that first if possible

What does it mean to treat people equally

So for example in a country what does it mean to treat citizens equally or a school to treat pupils equally

We are not discussing hypothetical scenarios here please. Stick to point number 2 of the op

Ekrenji:
We are not discussing hypothetical scenarios here please. Stick to point number 2 of the op

I am not discussing hypothetical
I am asking for a definition
You can ask your English teacher to help you understand the difference between hypothetical and illustrative

Wives are a subset of PEOPLE

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO TREAT PEOPLE EQUALLY IN ANY AREA OF HUMAN EXISTENCE

I asked for a definition
If you don't know say so or just shutup

Like a number of ROP positions, polygamy makes little sense.

For a start, there are approx. 100 women born to every 106 men. Polygyny practised wholesale will leave a large cohort of men without their own families to invest in. That is ever so dangerous for societal stability.

Although one can see how that might work if one community of males was consistently offing another and taking their females captives - where do we see that kind of constant war and bloodshed?

It's terrible for family situations. The mistrust, envy, simmering hatred and competitiveness amongst and between wives and children is oft-times unmanageable.

RealLordZeus:
Infact some scholars are of the view that “The most hated of permissible things to Allah is divorce.” and it is generally acceptable among all Muslim Scholars that Divorce is a reprehensible act.
Some scholars said you cannot even say your wife is cheating based on hearsay, it has to be a hard evidence.
That shows that the rules are set to make divorce harder.

Again the inconsistencies and contradictions

1. There is no revelational pronouncement on the legitimacy of scholars. It's basically opinion and is often "opined to suit" with little consensus. Even the hard teeth methodology was strictly forbidden in the core ran but widely deployed?
2. How if divorce is reprehensible is it possible with three repetitions of talaq?
3. You can't assume cheating based on hearsay but you can beat based on suspicion?
4. The core ran says no one can treat 2 wives equally, than permits 4 wives and pronounces an eternal (not temporal) punishment?

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aribisala0:
I am not discussing hypothetical
I am asking for a definition
You can ask your English teacher to help you understand the difference between hypothetical and illustrative

Wives are a subset of PEOPLE

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO TREAT PEOPLE EQUALLY IN ANY AREA OF HUMAN EXISTENCE

I asked for a definition
If you don't know say so or just shutup

The subject of discussion is can anyone treat his wives equally? No

Did your prophet treat his wives equally? no, he had his preferred wife!

Ekrenji:
The subject of discussion is can anyone treat his wives equally? No

Did your prophet treat his wives equally? no, he had his preferred wife!

My prophet? Did I sit down with your dad to tell him I have a prophet?

BlackfireX:
How many wives did Allah said we can marry ?

Because I heard prophet Muhammad married 9 or 11?

Some aalfa said 4


Whom do we follow the Quran. Muhammed or alfa?

Thank you for this question

Let me throw it back at you:

How many wives did Moses marry?

How many did Solomon marry?

How many did men of the bible marry?

When you understand this, you would understand why Muhammad married many wives but we were limited to 4.

The concept of monogamy is alien to not only religion but our culture. There is NO place in the bible where God explicitly said marrying more than one wife is a sin.

If there is, please point it out let's learn 🙂

aribisala0:
My prophet? Did I sit down with your dad to tell him I have a prophet?

Is this how you bring your dad into discussions? You’re not civil enough to deserve giving you attention. Bye

Ekrenji:
Is this how you bring your dad into discussions? You’re not civil enough to deserve giving you attention. Bye

cry me a river

those whose fathers don't train them at home will be trained by strangers

Polygamy treats women like commodities and sex objects. A man is expected to treat a gold digging woman the same way as a woman who has been true a lot of struggling with him.This is hilarious.

Why are you people killing christains

Lagusta:
Thank you for this question

Let me throw it back at you:

How many wives did Moses marry?

How many did Solomon marry?

How many did men of the bible marry?

When you understand this, you would understand why Muhammad married many wives but we were limited to 4.

The concept of monogamy is alien to not only religion but our culture. There is NO place in the bible where God explicitly said marrying more than one wife is a sin.

If there is, please point it out let's learn 🙂

Thanks for the response but it shows your poor communication.


I asked a question the least you could have done is answer ... then after that ask me question or create another thread and tag me I will give response in order not to derail this insightful thread.



So back to the questions you are elusive of


How many wives does the Quran commanded?

How many wives does Islam prophet married? Besides the slaves he acquired during raids