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Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kukutente23: 8:56am On Nov 15, 2025
Christistruth03:
So you are still hanging on to Ojukwu's lies and Propaganda?

It will do you no good

Look around you
You are the only one fighting against Lagos looking after it's indigenes and you are not even from the SW and your own region is looking after it's own indigenes as we speak

That behaviour is so shameful, hateful and pathetic
How come the only valid ground you think you can have on this matter is if I'm Igbo and against indigenous lagosians being recognised and given their rightful place?
What about ensuring that those who are not Lagos indigenes don't go about posing as indigenes and enjoying the benefits that should accrue to the indigenes. Even in the north, Zamfara has a policy that ensures its indigenes benefit from state resources before others.
It seems you're among those posing as Lagos indigenes under the guise of defending the state from Igbo while you're actually robbing the real indigenes of their patrimony
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by christistruth01: 1:43pm On Nov 15, 2025
Kukutente23:
How come the only valid ground you think you can have on this matter is if I'm Igbo and against indigenous lagosians being recognised and given their rightful place?
What about ensuring that those who are not Lagos indigenes don't go about posing as indigenes and enjoying the benefits that should accrue to the indigenes. Even in the north, Zamfara has a policy that ensures its indigenes benefit from state resources before others.
It seems you're among those posing as Lagos indigenes under the guise of defending the state from Igbo while you're actually robbing the real indigenes of their patrimony
All Lagos Markets and Commerce should even be 100% under the control of Lagos indigenes .

It will definitely happen!!!
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kukutente23: 3:10pm On Nov 15, 2025
christistruth01:
All Lagos Markets and Commerce should even be 100% under the control of Lagos indigenes .

It will definitely happen!!!
Yes
Enough of Osun states indigene becoming iyaloja of Lagos
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Ecomfreecourse: 3:19pm On Nov 15, 2025
Kdon2:
Another ibo yet again. Yet they want biafla but don't want to leave Lagos. Go your states. Lagos no be your state.
Now that you have spoken like this, are you not the enemy of one Nigeria?
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Ecomfreecourse: 3:21pm On Nov 15, 2025
Kdon2:
I knew instinctively that ibos will cry their eyes out over this news. Good one from Lagos govt😜
If this was to be done in South East are you not going to say otherwise?
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by christistruth01:
Kukutente23:
Yes
Enough of Osun states indigene becoming iyaloja of Lagos
Please mind your own SE Business !!!!!!!

We don't want your Osu Caste System

Efunsetan Aniwura from Abeokuta was an Iyaloja and Iyalode of Ibadan in the 1870s !!!!!!!!

You are too divisive !

Madam Tinubu also from Abeokuta was.an Iyaloja of Lagos in the 1860s !!!!!!!!!
she was married to Oba of Lagos .
That was 160 years ago and even then it was Normal !!

Look, your own culture is completely Alien to us and our own culture is alien to you so just stay in your own lane !!
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kdon2: 3:47pm On Nov 15, 2025
Ecomfreecourse:
If this was to be done in South East are you not going to say otherwise?
The question is why shouldn't your leaders do same in their states. Nobody stops them now. Infact every state should do it. It's state not federal. Haba
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kdon2: 3:49pm On Nov 15, 2025
Ecomfreecourse:
Now that you have spoken like this, are you not the enemy of one Nigeria?
Enemy of one Nigeria because I want my state safe and protected right. If that's your narrow interpretation that's okay.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kukutente23: 4:09pm On Nov 15, 2025
christistruth01:
Please mind your own SE Business !!!!!!!

We don't want your Osu Caste System

Efunsetan Aniwura from Abeokuta was an Iyaloja and Iyalode of Ibadan in the 1870s !!!!!!!!

You are too divisive !

Madam Tinubu also from Abeokuta was.an Iyaloja of Lagos in the 1860s !!!!!!!!!
she was married to Oba of Lagos .
That was 160 years ago and even then it was Normal !!

Look, your own culture is completely Alien to us and our own culture is alien to you so just stay in your own lane !!
You're talking of the 19th century when Nigeria did not exist.
Aniwura was iyalode and had ties to Ibadan through her maternal cousin and her father was a chief. Like I told you chieftaincy is by bloodline not indigeneship.
As for Iyaloja, it is given to the oldest and most affluent woman in a market and not a hereditary or indigenous title that is preserved for indigenes of a place. Iyaloja is usually chosen by the market women from among them.
This cannot be used to justify denying Lagos indigenes their rights. I've not seen an Ondo man become Oyo governor nor an Osun man become Ekiti gov. It's always Lagos that you guys claim that anyone can become gov philosophy for. It sounds like land grabbing in my view
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by christistruth01:
Kukutente23:
You're talking of the 19th century when Nigeria did not exist.
Aniwura was iyalode and had ties to Ibadan through her maternal cousin and her father was a chief. Like I told you chieftaincy is by bloodline not indigeneship.
As for Iyaloja, it is given to the oldest and most affluent woman in a market and not a hereditary or indigenous title that is preserved for indigenes of a place. Iyaloja is usually chosen by the market women from among them.
This cannot be used to justify denying Lagos indigenes their rights. I've not seen an Ondo man become Oyo governor nor an Osun man become Ekiti gov. It's always Lagos that you guys claim that anyone can become gov philosophy for. It sounds like land grabbing in my view
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Ipob cannot teach us the History of Yorubaland !!!!

Efunsetan Aniwura from Abeokuta was Iyaloja before she was Iyalode of Ibadan!!

If you know Yorubaland History you would have known that because of the Islamic Jihad that invaded, everyone has relatives in all parts of Yorubaland because they were running from Pillar to post and helter skelter in all directions for almost a Century !

We didn't have the luxury of sitting in the same spot for 500 years

We said our customs and History are completely different from yours!

The 19th Century was a very important part of our History that still applies to us today

Even Ife that is over 2000 years old was completely empty for 15 years until Basorun Ogunmola of Ibadan sent message too the Ooni and the Ifes at Oke Igbo next to Ondo where the Ifes were living as Refugees to return home to Ile Ife and he gave them safety assurances
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kukutente23: 4:28pm On Nov 15, 2025
christistruth01:
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Ipob cannot teach us the History of Yorubaland !!!!

Efunsetan Aniwura was Iyaloja before she was Iyalode of Ibadan!!

If you know Yorubaland History you would have known that because of the Islamic Jihad that invaded, everyone has relatives in all parts of Yorubaland because they were running from Pillar to post for almost a Century !

We said our customs and History are completely different from yours!

The 19th Century was a very important part of our History that still applies to us today

We didn't have the luxury of sitting in the same spot for 500 years
Your moniker says truth but you enjoy lies
You've still not told me why Osun and Ekiti states were created.
You mean throughout the 19th century Fulani was chasing Yorubas throughout the length and breadth of their land? Chai!! See lie
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Ecomfreecourse: 4:31pm On Nov 15, 2025
Kdon2:
Enemy of one Nigeria because I want my state safe and protected right. If that's your narrow interpretation that's okay.
yes my conclusion is perfectly okay by me
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by christistruth01: 4:35pm On Nov 15, 2025
Kukutente23:
Your moniker says truth but you enjoy lies
You've still not told me why Osun and Ekiti states were created.
You mean throughout the 19th century Fulani was chasing Yorubas throughout the length and breadth of their land? Chai!! See lie
In the Bible it was Jezebel who was always lying and deceiving and manipulating whenever confronted with God's Truth to the extent of being Arch enemy of the Prophets of God.

She ended very badly as a buffet for dogs
to eat , it was only her hands and skull left .
The dogs refused to eat her hands because the work of her hands were so bad that even dogs rejected it

Don't copy her
You can never defeat God Almighty
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by WizardOfNG: 4:39pm On Nov 15, 2025
Ecomfreecourse:
If this was to be done in South East are you not going to say otherwise?
What is wrong with you people and nauseating covetous expansionism? Is anyone stopping you doing similar in your hostile SE most Nigerians avoid?

Can't you mind your own business and leave others to theirs?

Alway crying more than the bereaved and campaigning for "Lagos indigenes right" as if that should be you uppermost concern at a time Nigeria is firmly on course for more regional autonomy and protectionism. Nonsense.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kukutente23: 4:46pm On Nov 15, 2025
christistruth01:
In the Bible it was Jezebel who was always lying and deceiving and manipulating whenever confronted with God's Truth to the extent of being Arch enemy of the Prophets of God.

She ended very badly as a buffet for dogs
to eat , it was only her hands and skull left .
The dogs refused to eat her hands because the work of her hands were no good even dogs rejected it

Don't copy her
You can never defeat God Almighty
Stop telling lies
Jezebel was eaten up by dogs because she masterminded the killing of Naboth an indigene of Israel so her husband could take over his ancestral land for himself
It was because of that land grabbing and refusing indigenes their rightful place that led to Ahab's seventy sons getting killed and Jezebel the mastermind of robbing indigenes getting eaten by dogs
Anyone hiding under the name of God to tell lies against indigenes taking their rightful place ends up eaten by dogs
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kdon2: 4:51pm On Nov 15, 2025
Ecomfreecourse:
yes my conclusion is perfectly okay by me
Pele
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by christistruth01: 4:56pm On Nov 15, 2025
Kukutente23:
Stop telling lies
Jezebel was eaten up by dogs because she masterminded the killing of Naboth an indigene of Israel so her husband could take over his ancestral land for himself
It was because of that land grabbing and refusing indigenes their rightful place that led to Ahab's seventy sons getting killed and Jezebel the mastermind of robbing indigenes getting eaten by dogs
Anyone hiding under the name of God to tell lies against indigenes taking their rightful place ends up eaten by dogs
What does Jezebel was lying ,deceiving ,Manipulating Mean ?

How do you think she was able to make Ahab takeover Naboth's Vineyard
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kukutente23: 7:39pm On Nov 15, 2025
christistruth01:
What does Jezebel was lying ,deceiving ,Manipulating Mean ?

How do you think she was able to make Ahab takeover Naboth's Vineyard
It means stealing what belongs to indigenes is not good
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by christistruth01: 7:53pm On Nov 15, 2025
Kukutente23:
It means stealing what belongs to indigenes is not good
Good

It means that in Yorubaland
Our Ancestral Heritage is not your own

Be content with your Ancestral Heritage God gave you on the other side of the River Niger.

He didn't put the River Niger there for decoration
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Chidollars1994(m): 8:38pm On Nov 15, 2025
Lagos is no man's land and don't need any indigenship certificate
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by oyatz(m): 9:01pm On Nov 15, 2025
Krucifax:
The Lagos State Government is enacting a Lagos Indegenship Certificate program. Below is an analysis of the danger and why its a slippery slope to discord,disuntiy and the fractioning of Nigeria.

1. How This Could Lead to Discrimination Against Other Nigerians

While the initiative aims at organization and authentication, indigeneship systems in Nigeria have historically produced discrimination in practice. The new digital version could amplify such risks if not properly regulated.

a. Access to Public Services
If the certificate becomes a requirement for:

school admissions

bursaries/scholarships

civil service recruitment

government assistance programs

political appointments

…then non-indigenes (even lifelong Lagos residents) may be unfairly excluded.

b. Reinforcing “Indigene vs. Settler” Divide

Nigeria already struggles with conflicts around “indigeneity” (e.g., Jos, Abuja, Kaduna). A digital, state-backed verification might:

harden identity boundaries

create “tiers” of citizenship

encourage ethnic profiling

c. Employment Discrimination

Some states already unofficially prefer indigenes in recruitment. Digitizing proof of indigeneship may:

make such discrimination more systematic

embed exclusion in automated systems

d. Political Marginalization

Political participation could be affected if:

only indigenes can hold certain positions

political benefits/resources are tied to indigeneship mandates

Digital verification makes these exclusions easier to enforce.

2. Is This Compatible With the Nigerian Constitution?

It depends on how it is used.
The Constitution allows cultural identity, but prohibits discrimination based on origin, ethnicity or place of birth.

Relevant Constitutional Provisions

Section 42(1) – Prohibits discrimination on the basis of:

ethnic group

place of origin

community

circumstances of birth

religion, sex or political opinion

If indigeneship certificates are used to limit access to government services or opportunities, this can violate Section 42.

Section 15(2) – Federal character principle

Requires governments to promote national unity and avoid discrimination.

Section 14(3) – Opposes dominance of one group within a state or local government.
Section 25–28 – Citizenship

Nigerians have equal citizenship; no category of “second-class” Nigerians is recognised.

Case Law (Important)

Nigerian courts have repeatedly ruled that treating a Nigerian as “less entitled” in a state where they reside violates constitutional equality.
Examples include:

Attorney General of Lagos State v. Eko Hotels

Several Court of Appeal and Supreme Court comments on indigene vs. resident conflicts.

Conclusion on Constitutionality

Legal if used only for cultural documentation (traditional identity, genealogy).

Potentially unconstitutional if used to deny equal rights, employment, scholarships, education admission, or public services.

3. Implications for Nigerians Born in Lagos but Not “Indigenes”

These individuals—who may know no other home—are the most vulnerable to exclusion.

a. “Citizens but not accepted”

They may be:

born in Lagos

schooled in Lagos

paying taxes in Lagos

…but still excluded from:

state benefits

government jobs

education quotas

local rights and opportunities

b. Digital Exclusion Becomes Harder to Challenge

Once the identity is encoded into a database with barcode verification, a non-indigene:

cannot negotiate

cannot appeal informally

may be automatically screened out of opportunities

“Automation” may look neutral but can embed bias more deeply.

c. Social Tension and Alienation

Being told you “don’t belong” in your birthplace can generate:

resentment

ethnic polarization

political friction

d. Reduced Mobility

If every state begins digitizing indigene status, Nigerians may face:

restricted access outside ancestral states

limited job markets

entrenched regional identity at the expense of national unity

This contradicts freedom of movement and residence under Section 41.

4. Potential Positive Uses (for balance)

To be fair, the system is not inherently discriminatory. It could be positive if:

used only for cultural identity preservation

not required for public services

not linked to opportunities or rights

data protection and anti-discrimination laws guide implementation

The key issue is how government institutions apply it.

5. Overall Assessment

The digital certificate is not unconstitutional by itself, but becomes unconstitutional if used to:

restrict rights

deny services

discriminate in employment

exclude residents

determine educational or political eligibility

For Nigerians born in Lagos but not “indigenes,” the danger is becoming digitally and institutionally marginalized in a state they call home. Bear in mind that there already exist a state of origin document the type required for Nigerian passport application. The move by the Lagos state Goverment smacks of a greater and undisclosed agenda.
Lagos was built by Nigerians. It enjoys its esteemed status not because of the efforts of any one tribal group but the collective efforts of Nigerian from all regions. Starting from being made the state capital by the Federal Goverment this singular act is what spurred its growth by attracting millions of Nigerian from all over Nigeria who came to work and trade and live.These Nigerian set up roots and generations have been born into Lagos that know no where else as home!
This is what created the success of Lagos and the legacy endures to this day. The evidence is all around as if it had been the efforts of a singular tribe then neighbouring states like Oyo,Osun,Ogun,Ekiti etc would have had the same status which they do not.
This is a warning call to all parties and federal goverment that the problem this can forment is one that can not be predicted.
Why all these lengthy epistles over certificstes of indigenes in a State?
ALL States have indigenes, that need to be identified tidied and catered for.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by oyatz(m): 9:05pm On Nov 15, 2025
malali:
Constitutions often contain legacy identity clauses, but weaponizing ancestry to gate access to services, education, or state benefits becomes discriminatory under modern human-rights norms.

Nigeria’s Constitution forbids discrimination based on community, ethnic group, or place of origin. When states operationalize indigeneship in ways that exclude long-term residents, Lagos-born children, or multi-generational families who built the city, they convert an identity definition into a mechanism of inequality.
How does digitalisation of an age long certificate of indigeneship, lead to discrimination?

All States issues certificate of indigeneship to their indigenes. How is this new to you in 2025?
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by christistruth01: 10:43pm On Nov 15, 2025
Kukutente23:
It means stealing what belongs to indigenes is not good
Very correct!!!

And you are not even an indigene of the SW to Start with

and we are not dragging Onitsha with you

We have respected your indigenous SE rights to lock yourself up every Monday

You must Respect our own indigenous SW Rights too
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kukutente23: 11:43pm On Nov 15, 2025
christistruth01:
Very correct!!!

And you are not even an indigene of the SW to Start with

and we are not dragging Onitsha with you

We have respected your indigenous SE rights to lock yourself up every Monday

You must Respect our own indigenous SW Rights too
Let us ask respect Lagos indigenes rights
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by christistruth01: 11:46pm On Nov 15, 2025
Kukutente23:
Let us ask respect Lagos indigenes rights
Concentrate of respecting the rights of the Osu People in your own Region
They were created In Gods image for his Glory


And while you are at that learn to respect the rights of those in SE
who don’t want to be locked up every Monday
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by oyatz(m): 11:56pm On Nov 15, 2025
malali:
This is illegal and unconstitutional on a federal level.

The Lagos State Indigeneship Automated Certificate is a sleekly disguised form of digital discrimination.


By institutionalizing “indigene status,” the government effectively divides residents into first-class citizens and others, contradicting the 1999 Constitution’s guarantee of equality and freedom from discrimination (Section 42).

In a cosmopolitan state built by migrants, codifying ancestry into a digital gatekeeper for access to schools, jobs, or benefits is regressive. It risks excluding millions of Lagos-born Nigerians whose families migrated generations ago.

Automation doesn’t sanitize bias, it only makes discrimination more efficient.


The Attorney General of the Federation Lateef Fagbemi should step in and uphold the constitution.
It is NOT illegal, for any State (including Lagos) to identify and make provisions for their indigenes
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by oyatz(m): 11:59pm On Nov 15, 2025
malali:
Constitutions often contain legacy identity clauses, but weaponizing ancestry to gate access to services, education, or state benefits becomes discriminatory under modern human-rights norms.

Nigeria’s Constitution forbids discrimination based on community, ethnic group, or place of origin. When states operationalize indigeneship in ways that exclude long-term residents, Lagos-born children, or multi-generational families who built the city, they convert an identity definition into a mechanism of inequality.
You are the one reading what is not there.

1) Indiges of Lagos have rights to exist.

2) Lagos ,like all other States have a duty to identify (either digitally or through analogue means), serve and support her Indigenes.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by oyatz(m): 12:04am On Nov 16, 2025
malali:
Lagos has the most Federal assets that belong to all Nigerians.
Assets that were paid for with Federal allocation and belong to all Nigerians
The same way Delta has oil wells that belong to all Nigerians
The same way Niger state has hydroelectric power that serves all Nigerians
The same way Kano groundnuts pyramid fed the whole country at some point in the seventies.
All these places contributed money to the development of Lagos.
Did you think 3rd mainland bridge was built with Lagos state funds.

So Lagos discriminating any Hausa or Yoruba citizen is 100% unconstitutional.
How does, Lagos digital identification of her indigenes affect you negatively or relate to all these?


Allow indigenes of Lagos drink water and drop cup, enough of all these wailing over Lagos matters
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by oyatz(m): 12:16am On Nov 16, 2025
Kukutente23:
This is false. Yorubaland is patrilineal
No one traces his ancestry through his mother in Yorubaland except maybe an illegitimate child
Stop saying what you don't know.

1) Many Royal families in Yorubaland trace their claims to the throne via maternal link e g Lagos : After the Eletu Kekere died childless, his aunty, Erelu Kuti seized power but was pacified by making her son, Ologunkutere, the new Oba and her second son, as the Onilegbale of Lagos.

2) Oba Adedapo Tejuosho of the ruling Karunwi dynasty of Oke-Ona Egba ,traced their lineage to the throne matrileaneally
3) The Matanmi Royal Family of Oshogbo are descendants of Matanmi, the son of the daughter of Oba Olarooye, the founder of Oshogbo who moved the people from Ipole -Ijesha to the modern site, now called Oshogbo

4) Late Gov Lam Adeshina of Oyo State (1999-2003): The father was from Ebira, Kogi State who came to work in Ibadan farming community but the mother was from a prominent Ibadan family.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by oyatz(m): 12:17am On Nov 16, 2025
K
Elusive001:
Does this make someone from Osun, Ogun, Ekiti, Oyo and Ondo indigenes of Lagos State?
Where is this Stated in the digitalisation process?
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by malali: 2:01am On Nov 16, 2025
oyatz:
How does, Lagos digital identification of her indigenes affect you negatively or relate to all these?


Allow indigenes of Lagos drink water and drop cup, enough of all these wailing over Lagos matters
Lol..Lagos economic scene belongs to all Nigerians.
Lagosians can do indigeneship and traditional titles all they want
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by malali: 2:03am On Nov 16, 2025
oyatz:
You are the one reading what is not there.

1) Indiges of Lagos have rights to exist.

2) Lagos ,like all other States have a duty to identify (either digitally or through analogue means), serve and support her Indigenes.

Lagos economy belongs to all Nigerians.
You can all claim indigeneship....all you want.
The federal assets in Lagos makes it belong to all Nigerians.

Did we put toll gate on third mainland ??
Oil money built 3rd Mainland.
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