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Hahahahahaha...Paddy Man...you wan compare Beeg with Kalu Aja? Kalu is someone i know...he is a financial guru and knows nothing about military

Odunayaw:
😁Be looking for company to clutch at straws.

Absolutely. A soldier following orders in any country will not back down in front of a civilian minister.

Military is military whichever country it is in.

You fail to understand that the training of the soldiers is to make them follow orders through the chain of command and ignore everything else.

kenpaul0:
Please answer this question....Can this happen in the USA, or UK, or even South Africa or ALgeria?

kenpaul0:
Hahahahahaha...Paddy Man...you wan compare Beeg with Kalu Aja? Kalu is someone i know...he is a financial guru and knows nothing about military

Bro it's not about knowing something about the military. It is the info of the scenario before all our eyes that Kalu spelt out.

Governor Sanwo-olu had a similar scenario with the police barely 3yrs ago and he didn't proceed to verbal assault. He reached out to their superiors and that was it.

It is that lawlessness you hate that Wike wanted to use do the "right thing". Fgs this man is in bed with the C in C and has a better chance of effecting his will through proper channels.

kenpaul0:
Please answer this question....Can this happen in the USA, or UK, or even South Africa or ALgeria?

Verbally assault a commissioned officer of the US or UK and watch your political career discover oil

GreenandGold:
Decided to create my own version I was referring to using the TAC-6 double-cabin platform. It gives the platform the ability to mount a forward-facing HMG and doubles up as a force multiplier.

The SF must have their reasons for specifying a single cab. In the field trials they've mounted a .50 cal on a RWS. Still leaves you with ample space on that flat bed on which you can mount your 23mm or any other dakka dakka, and enough space for ammo.

I'm more worried about their emphasis on the 4.5l v8 diesel engine, which Toyota has discontinued as of August, apparently.

Odunayaw:
Bro it's not about knowing something about the military. It is the info of the scenario before all our eyes that Kalu spelt out.

Governor Sanwo-olu had a similar scenario with the police barely 3yrs ago and he didn't proceed to verbal assault. He reached out to their superiors and that was it.

It is that lawlessness you hate that Wike wanted to use do the "right thing". Fgs this man is in bed with the C in C and has a better chance of effecting his will through proper channels.

The same sanwo olu that verbally lambast a soldier for shouting "I am a soldier sir" when he order his arrest for passing one way ba?
Abi u re talking of another sanwo olu

I will be happy if this can be passed into law.
It will curb alot of misbehavior of military men.
Most of them misbehave because they know they can't be tried in the civilian court.
If this can be passed, watch their terrible ways reduce exponentially.
In order words, this bill jst handed the military men to the police and we all know how it will end up for
soldiers arrested.
I won't even pity them, if they have be professional and behaving properly there won't even be a need to have these kind of bill.
Na them invite gbege by themselves.

QuietMynd:

The same sanwo olu that verbally lambast a soldier for shouting "I am a soldier sir" when he order his arrest for passing one way ba?
Abi u re talking of another sanwo olu

You know the soldier said he was on official duty and his CDS confirmed it

Go and sit down babana

I've already tried to explain to him that there is a difference between a soldier acting on orders and a soldier just doing whatever without orders. He seems incapable of understanding.

He thinks we are saying soldiers are above the law. And he's the "smart" guy who was complaining about the fact that soldiers are "dumb and uneducated" 😓

Odunayaw:
You know the soldier said he was on official duty and his CDS confirmed it

Go and sit down babana

GreenandGold:
Decided to create my own version I was referring to using the TAC-6 double-cabin platform. It gives the platform the ability to mount a forward-facing HMG and doubles up as a force multiplier.

The third image, was it AI generated…??

Odunayaw:
You know the soldier said he was on official duty and his CDS confirmed it

Go and sit down babana

Yes, official duty of guarding private property.
Una no know as he dey do una.

QuietMynd:
Yes, official duty of guarding private property.
Una no know as he dey do una.

They will solve the matter in the appropriate quarters. Unclench your intestines and breathe. Fact still remains that the verbal assault was asinine

To the non-Nigerians here, can what happened between Wike and the soldier happen in your country? Knowing the relationship between the military and civilians in your country, who was right and who was wrong?

I'm not sure you're aware that some people of Nigerian ancestry live outside Nigeria.
I'm typing from France.

MiddleDimension:
To the non-Nigerians here, can what happened between Wike and the soldier happen in your country? Knowing the relationship between the military and civilians in your country, who was right and who was wrong?

Colombia's 3.1 Billion Euro Gripen Move

✈️ Colombia has officially secured the supply of 17 Gripen E/F fighter jets through a deal valued at 3.1 billion euros.

The agreement includes 15 Gripen E and 2 Gripen F aircraft, along with a large number of equipment and munitions.

📌 Saab announced that deliveries will take place between 2026 and 2032. It was noted that during this process, Saab outperformed the US-backed F-16 offer.

kabe1:
In comparison, Nigeria is getting 24 M346FA for $1.2B

You can't compare these deals on face value.

Faithful007:
You can't compare these deals on face value.

According to SAAB, Colombia is paying $3.6 Billion for 17 aircrafts.

Saab has today signed a contract with the Colombian Government and received an order for 17 Gripen E/F fighter aircraft. The order value is EUR 3.1 billion and deliveries will take place 2026-2032.

https://www.saab.com/newsroom/press-releases/2025/saab-signs-contract-for-gripen-ef-with-colombia

So comparing on face value alone, I think Nigeria is getting more value for money.

The previous information I shared on the Colombia contract value is false.

Nigerian Navy units participating in Grand African Nemo exercise

kabe1:
According to SAAB, Colombia is paying $3.6 Billion for 17 aircrafts.

Saab has today signed a contract with the Colombian Government and received an order for 17 Gripen E/F fighter aircraft. The order value is EUR 3.1 billion and deliveries will take place 2026-2032.

https://www.saab.com/newsroom/press-releases/2025/saab-signs-contract-for-gripen-ef-with-colombia

So comparing on face value alone, I think Nigeria is getting more value for money.

The previous information I shared on the Colombia contract value is false.

Oh okay. Cause i already felt that with that sale price. There must have been a catch with spare parts, munitions and maintenance.

Faithful007:
Oh okay. Cause i already felt that with that sale price. There must have been a catch with spare parts, munitions and maintenance.

Some sources are even quoting $4.3 Billion.

I don't think it's a good deal for 17 planes, training, maintenance + ammunition.

At 2 Billion, it would have been fantastic.

Anyway congratulations to Colombia, they get to retire the Kfirs with a formidable aircraft.

kabe1:
Some sources are even quoting $4.3 Billion.

I don't think it's a good deal for 17 planes, training, maintenance + ammunition.

At 2 Billion, it would have been fantastic.

Anyway congratulations to Colombia, they get to retire the Kfirs with a formidable aircraft.

Sweden - Gripen E ✅
Brazil - Gripen E ✅
Thailand - Gripen E on order……
Colombia - Gripen E on order…..

Everybody is switching to Gripen E, meanwhile there is a a particular world class airforce looking to display and exhibit Gripen C for the 8th time at its international airshow in 2026 and probably up till the 2030 edition.
By this time, usual attendees will think; “hey maybe we would get to see something new in this 2026 edition. New aircrafts, new aerial display”. But nope, they are in for another dose of obsolete Gripen C and Hawk-200 fly past.

Exnavyboy62:
Sweden - Gripen E ✅
Brazil - Gripen E ✅
Thailand - Gripen E on order……
Colombia - Gripen E on order…..

Everybody is switching to Gripen E, meanwhile there is a a particular world class airforce looking to display and exhibit Gripen C for the 8th time at its international airshow in 2026 and probably up till the 2030 edition.
By this time, usual attendees will think; “hey maybe we would get to see something new in this 2026 edition. New aircrafts, new aerial display”. But nope, they are in for another dose of obsolete Gripen C and Hawk-200 fly past.

That Gripen-C would still level anything in Sub-Sahara till 2060

GreenandGold:
That Gripen-C would still level anything in Sub-Saharan till 2060

Remember Nigeria has JF-17 thunder and Ethiopia has the SU-35 on order.

SAAF helis

GreenandGold:
That Gripen-C would still level anything in Sub-Sahara till 2060

You must learn to ignore this Exnavyboy62 fellow; he looks for any opportunity to haul out his invasion plans!

Sandock Austral Defence relaunches as South African Defence Group

Five years after Sandock Austral Defence was established, the company has rebranded as the South African Defence Group (SADG), with a focus on providing defence and security solutions, from mission systems to turrets and vehicle upgrades.

During the official relaunch at the Houghton Golf Club on Wednesday, CEO Dr Mthobisi Zondi said Sandock Austral Defence has been in existence since 2019 when it fell under the Sandock Austral Group along with Sandock Austral Shipyards, but a couple of years ago the decision was taken to dissolve the group and let the shipbuilding and defence businesses be standalone entities. The relaunch is to celebrate a new corporate identity.

Zondi said SADG’s core business is defence and security for local and international clients, with a focus on providing solutions and capabilities rather than just products. “We invest a lot in developing capability that is flexible and adaptable,” he told DefenceWeb, adding that SADG first tries to understand the client’s problem and then offer access to solutions.

In addition to engagement in the Southern African Development Community (SADC) region, SADG is pushing to work closely with the South African National Defence Force (SANDF), as it helps to secure foreign orders when solutions are implemented in one’s home country and home military.

At present, SADG is busy with upgrading the Integrated Platform Management System (IPMS) for the South African Navy’s four frigates. Zondi noted that the Navy identified various issues affecting mission readiness, as it struggles with maintenance and platform availability. SADG is offering its in-house developed predictive maintenance module that uses AI and machine learning for more efficient and cost-effective maintenance. “We are currently engaging the Navy on the implementation thereof,” Zondi told DefenceWeb. “Our team is continuously combing the solution space and the problem space for a match between solutions and the issues that the client is struggling with.”

For the South African Army, SADG has developed, in conjunction with a local defence company, a light machinegun turret for its Mamba armoured personnel carriers. The project began with a completely manual turret for 7.62 mm and 12.7 mm machineguns, and was displayed in this form at the 2024 Africa Aerospace and Defence exhibition. At the SA Army’s request, it evolved into a remotely operated turret that provides protection for the gunner. The new turret has been successfully tested and will be demonstrated at the SA Army’s flagship Exercise Vuk’uhlome later this month. Zondi explained that although the turret was designed to fit the Mamba in line with a potential upgrade of the vehicle, it is a modular system and can be adapted to other vehicles.

Expanding on the Mamba upgrade, Zondi said SADG identified the need for modernisation and has developed a phased upgrade model. The company is engaging the South African Army on the affordability of the upgrade, and plans to convert one vehicle for testing and continue with more should the project proceed.

SADG has also been appointed by the SA Army to explore an upgrade of the Rooikat armoured car, ranging from vehicle de-preservation to modernisation. In collaboration with other local companies, SADG aims to work on about 42 vehicles for the Army.

Collaboration and partnership

Zondi emphasised the value of collaboration, and sharing work with other local companies. He said SADG has established multiple partnerships, such as with Armormax on its 6×6 (it has integrated its turret onto the vehicle), Twiga (vehicles and vehicle upgrades), and OTT (Ratel upgrades).

On the naval side, SADG cooperates with Global Command and Control Technologies (GC2T) on its Mission Commander system, designed to provide tactical situational awareness and blue force tracking so vessels can plan, task, control and execute missions. The system comprises an Electronic Chart Display and Information System (ECDIS); Transition 100 unmanned aerial vehicles for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance; a 12.7 mm or 30 mm remote control weapon system; and blue force tracking system. Zondi said the Mission Commander is being promoted to the SA Navy, initially for its new Multi-Mission Inshore Patrol Vessels (MMIPVs), but he would like to see it on other vessels. This would be in line with the Navy’s desire to have all its vessels – including its hydrographic survey vessel – being multi-mission capable.

On the aerial front, SADG offers a combat drone for tasks such as intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR); precision strike; force protection; and special operations. At the Africa Aerospace and Defence 2024 exhibition it was displayed with multiple 40 mm grenades. Zondi said not just weapons can be fitted to the multirotor UAV, which can also be used for non-military applications. It has a payload of 30 kg and a range of 20 km.

Defence and security markets in the crosshairs

SADG is aiming to have most of its revenue coming from non-military sources – at the moment about 65% of its revenue is from the defence sector. “There is more appetite in the non-military environment in terms of affordability,” Zondi said. “In South Africa the defence budget is under strain and in other African countries – mostly the Southern African Development Community where we operate – they have a number of things they require but their military budgets are under strain. They have socio economic priorities they need to address. That’s why we have become creative in the manner in which we provide our services.”

Target customers include defence forces, the security sector, state-owned entities etc. – solutions can be applied across a range of market segments. For example, a telecommunications company approached SADG with the problem of batteries being stolen from cell phone towers and diesel being stolen from generators. “We came up with layered security solution, looking at physical security, access control, AI algorithms that will collect and analyse people movement data with an alert if something abnormal is happening. We also have non-lethal effectors based on high decibel systems and lighting to interrupt intruder,” Zondi explained.

Such a solution can be applied across different industries. For example, SADG offers the Metropolitan Junction Protector System for on-site retail, banking, warehousing etc. It monitors sites and can discharge various substances to flood access zones while simultaneously disrupting mobile communications around critical infrastructure. Liquid, gas, or sound barrier systems can be deployed, for example.

Public-private partnerships

Zondi has repeatedly emphasised the importance of public-private partnerships (PPPs) for defence, advocating for them as one avenue to help solve the SANDF’s challenges. He said PPPs have been implemented successfully in many countries, particularly when contracting for availability or contracting for capability. SADG has engaged SANDF leadership, but implementation has been problematic, with very slow progress to date. Zondi noted South Africa’s previous PPP efforts in defence were hindered by complexity, long contracting periods, high unitary fees and leadership turnover. New PPP regulations, gazetted earlier this year, create opportunities for the defence sector to pursue smaller, performance-based projects aligned with operational needs. SADG is engaging with National Treasury to provide PPP solutions to the SANDF and Armscor.

Zondi said that industry-driven Unsolicited Proposals (USPs) are also now possible, enabling companies to pitch directly to the SANDF. The Chiefs of SANDF services are obliged to respond within 45 days to unsolicited proposals, and if not, the matter can be escalated to National Treasury. “It’s progress,” Zondi said, especially as National Treasury understands the defence industry’s frustrations.

“One of the things we hope to do as SADG is to work as a catalyst to transform the entire defence ecosystem at policy level, institutional level, and regulation level,” Zondi told DefenceWeb. There are a lot of capabilities that lie in the industry but the SANDF is unable to access them because policy and procedures are outdated, he said. “We need to transform at that level.”

https://defenceweb.co.za/industry/industry-industry/sandock-austral-defence-relaunches-as-south-african-defence-group/

GreenandGold:
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One of those occasions where going up-country to the Big Smoke cannot be avoided!
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-11-18-g20-summit-here-are-the-routes-that-joburg-drivers-should-avoid-this-weekend/?dm_source=dm_block_grid&dm_medium=card_link&dm_campaign=main

MiddleDimension:
To the non-Nigerians here, can what happened between Wike and the soldier happen in your country? Knowing the relationship between the military and civilians in your country, who was right and who was wrong?

In my country if the officer knowingly followed an illegal order, they can be sued individually in a civilian court.

Of course since we are not fully democratic, disobeying an unlawful order is usually followed by sudden transfer to serve in remote parts of the county for an extended amount of time approved by the same superiors who you refused their illegal orders, especially police officers, I know two police officers who were transfered to operate along the Kenya/Somali border after refusing to evict residents who's piece of land which they had been living on without title deed was bought by some well connected individual, but there was no court order to evict the residents.

Fidha254:
In my country if the officer knowingly followed an illegal order, they can be sued individually in a civilian court.

Of course since we are not fully democratic, disobeying an unlawful order is usually followed by sudden transfer to serve in remote parts of the county for an extended amount of time approved by the same superiors who you refused their illegal orders, especially police officers, I know two police officers who were transfered to operate along the Kenya/Somali border after refusing to evict residents who's piece of land which they had been living on without title deed was bought by some well connected individual, but there was no court order to evict the residents.

In the case of Wike and the Lieutenant, Wike was right while the soldier was on the wrong.

This is a democracy and in a democracy, soldiers are subject to civil authority. The reason many Nigerians were cheering on the soldier are:
1. ignorance of how things like this are.
2. the fact our military have been involved in politics for long means that there is this image they have carved for themselves and there is the audacity they have. We see it in how they behave towards civilians.
3. Many people don't like Wike because he is a stubborn man. Due to his influence, the president removed a democratically elected governor and suspended for 6 months!

And I am interested in hearing from the South Africans. Can this happen in your country? If yes, how would it be recieved by the general public?

Lurker4Long:
One of those occasions where going up-country to the Big Smoke cannot be avoided!
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-11-18-g20-summit-here-are-the-routes-that-joburg-drivers-should-avoid-this-weekend/?dm_source=dm_block_grid&dm_medium=card_link&dm_campaign=main

My road is on the list... We have only one entrance/exit to the complex... The crazy part is that no one at the complex informed us about that...

But oh well.

MiddleDimension:
In the case of Wike and the Lieutenant, Wike was right while the soldier was on the wrong.

This is a democracy and in a democracy, soldiers are subject to civil authority. The reason many Nigerians were cheering on the soldier are:
1. ignorance of how things like this are.
2. the fact our military have been involved in politics for long means that there is this image they have carved for themselves and there is the audacity they have. We see it in how they behave towards civilians.
3. Many people don't like Wike because he is a stubborn man. Due to his influence, the president removed a democratically elected governor and suspended for 6 months!

And I am interested in hearing from the South Africans. Can this happen in your country? If yes, how would it be recieved by the general public?

Doesn't mean any civilian authority can walk up to a soldier and give him a counter command