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vicfajeze:
Ibo blood?Sorry ooo.Wetin be him Igbo name?Odumegwu Chukwuemeka Peter Obi Azikwe?Bro,better go for brain reset

They need that advise more in your region

opes:
Obasanjo removed both Fayose and Ladoja when they were governors. Fayose later made a comeback and won a second term. Through the help of Tinubu, Ladoja returned to office after the court voided his impeachment, but he couldn’t secure a second term. Today, he is the Imperial Majesty, the Olubadan of Ibadan, Obasanjo went to pay homage, to greet the new king.

Fayose should move on and have a heart of forgiveness.

Obasanjo never went to pay Ladoja homage. Except your saw this viral Ai made picture. It has been debunked as fake. Obasanjo only sent a congratulatory message.

Yoruba people no get respect for elders I swear

Kdon2:
Why can't obj copy past northern national leaders and refrain from making statements that will disrespect him. The ibo blood in him is strong o!

Copy which northern national leader. That is what make the south great. They speak up their minds; no hypocrisy. The northerners are ,well, kemme not say, or else na ban straight. I love the way the souths tackes each other, same way the western world does. God bless the south

When God blesses you, you should also use same opportunity to bless others.
I don't like Baba Obasanjo simply because I feel he can do so much more.
Take for example an estate he is personally supervising off Ikola-Ipaja Road @ D&D school, Ipaja (google map).
Baba fixed a part of the road and gave instruction that only his estate users can access this new road and prevented other community users along that road from using it. A journey of 2mins would become 10mins of tortuous hill climbing.
It makes me wonder how a statesman with so much wealth can be so mean and petty.
There's an adage that says - To whom much is given, much is expected.

Dear yoruba brothers, abeg make una no vex, what flavor of "respect" is this?
The flavour na limited edition, e scarce for market.

Pharaoh4rin:
Copy which northern national leader. That is what make the south great. They speak up their minds; no hypocrisy. The northerners are ,well, kemme not say, or else na ban straight. I love the way the souths tackes each other, same way the western world does. God bless the south

Did you really comprehend what I said? He should refrain from things that will disrespect him.

AMINDA:
This is unprecedented, if true. Fayose is what can be termed as a "Professional Shape-shifter" and a man with no integrity nor respect. We can now see why he and Wike are close pals. It's clear that he only went to beg Obasanjo to grace his birthday so he can gloat about the personalities that came.

So you will totally ignore the uncalled for remarks by Obj at the event.
Your child has come to you in private to seek for your forgiveness which you granted only for you to use his birthday and a very public platform to castigate him and his wife and you expect him to fold his arms and watch.
That kind of father is what yorubas call agbaya.

I am with fayose 100% on this one.
Obj acted so childish.
BOth man have had good and bad times. And u choose his birthday to amplify the bad times. What a shame.

I can bet u Obj didn't reprimand him in private cos if he did fayose wouldn't have even bothered to invite him.
Obj in his usual character is the one who is unforgiving and unchangeable

Wasky101:
So you will totally ignore the uncalled for remarks by Obj at the event.
Your child has come to you in private to seek for your forgiveness which you granted only for you to use his birthday and a very public platform to castigate him and his wife and you expect him to fold his arms and watch.
That kind of father is what yorubas call agbaya.

I am with fayose 100% on this one.
Obj acted so childish.
BOth man have had good and bad times. And u choose his birthday to amplify the bad times. What a shame.

I can bet u Obj didn't reprimand him in private cos if he did fayose wouldn't have even bothered to invite him.
Obj in his usual character is the one who is unforgiving and unchangeable

I am with Fayose and always with Fayose. Though I didn't read what Baba OBASANJO said and have never read Fayose's reply but I am unapologetically on the side of Fayose. I was against him when he was removed as Governor because I supported OBASANJO. I was against him when he forcefully removed Fayemi as Governor. Later, Fayemi that lost all and became executive PA to Tinubu returned to Power, Fame and Wealth and forgot how and where he started. This made me to study Fayose deeply and now understand him.

Kdon2:
They need that advise more in your region

Bro,a beg tell me my region.

ElevationD:
By the way, why does Mr. Fayose overlook his brother Isaac? Can he not tackle Isaac who has been washing their dirty family linen publicly?

In the game of power/politics, you don’t dignify someone beneath you with a response

Silence is golden in such situations

Bovis:
In the game of power/politics, you don’t dignify someone beneath you with a response

Silence is golden in such situations

Sorry, if that was the case, Ned Nwoko would not have arrested that lady selling the aphrodisiacs. He would not have caused the arrest and detention of the young man who wrongly accused his wife.

If that was the case, Wike would have avoided the Navy Lieutenant A.M. Yerima.

I am of the opinion that if he joins issues with his brothers, sister and mom, a huge can of worms would be spilled.

Wasky101:
So you will totally ignore the uncalled for remarks by Obj at the event.
Your child has come to you in private to seek for your forgiveness which you granted only for you to use his birthday and a very public platform to castigate him and his wife and you expect him to fold his arms and watch.
That kind of father is what yorubas call agbaya.

I am with fayose 100% on this one.
Obj acted so childish.
BOth man have had good and bad times. And u choose his birthday to amplify the bad times. What a shame.

I can bet u Obj didn't reprimand him in private cos if he did fayose wouldn't have even bothered to invite him.
Obj in his usual character is the one who is unforgiving and unchangeable

Why did Fayose invite the Baba OBJ, even as the man hesitated? Knowing that there’s been no love lost between the two of them since 2005/6, why did not keep his distance? Why not invite Atiku, Kwakwanso, etc?

He who fetched dried firewood should expect visitation by the lizard!

ElevationD:
Why did Fayose invite the Baba OBJ, even as the man hesitated? Knowing that there’s been no love lost between the two of them since 2005/6, why did not keep his distance? Why not invite Atiku, Kwakwanso, etc?

He who fetched dried firewood should expect visitation by the lizard!

Fayose had gone to see baba with intermediaries before the birthday all scores seemed to have been settled, this was confirmed by baba Obj himself.
The question now should be after settling the rift behind closed doors why did he bring it up at the party again.
The man just can't forgive

Wasky101:
Fayose had gone to see baba with intermediaries before the birthday all scores seemed to have been settled, this was confirmed by baba Obj himself.
The question now should be after settling the rift behind closed doors why did he bring it up at the party again.
The man just can't forgive

OBJ forgave him absolutely. OBJ stated that when Fayose’s wife called, he told her their error and she admitted. That was very good on the part of the woman. OBJ then said that he had completely forgiven them. That he brought up the issues in contention, did not mean that the man wanted them to continue the quarrel. Fayose did not show wisdom and maturity. It was Fayose himself who did not have forgiveness in his heart. If he was purged completely of his anger, he would rather have made jokes out of Baba’s comment and moved on with their new found peace.

Put the blame on the table of Fayose. Presently there’s fire in his own father’s house. As the first son, he has not quenched it. If he cannot deal with the small matter between him and his siblings, how can he deal with the matter outside his father’s house? Ayo Fayose needs to check himself.

ElevationD:
OBJ forgave him absolutely. OBJ stated that when Fayose’s wife called, he told her their error and she admitted. That was very good on the part of the woman. OBJ then said that he had completely forgiven them. That he brought up the issues in contention, due not mean that the man wanted them to continue the quarrel. Fayose did not show wisdom and maturity. It was Fayose himself who did not have forgiveness in his heart. If he was purged completely of his anger, he would rather have made jokes out of Baba’s comment and moved on with their new found peace.

Put the blame on the table of Fayose. Presently there’s fire in his own father’s house. As the first son, he has not quenched it. If he cannot deal with the small matter between him and his siblings, how can he deal with the matter outside his father’s house? Ayo Fayose needs to check himself.

Just imagine for a minute u offend ur biological father and overtime u raise a delegation inside the family to go and beg him for forgiveness and he forgives you.
Only to attend a bigger family meeting and bring up all the transgressions he has forgiven you off to make ridicule of you and even your wife.
That's even after the your wife was part of the earlier delegation to beg him.

How would you feel

Wasky101:
Just imagine for a minute u offend ur biological father and overtime u raise a delegation inside the family to go and beg him for forgiveness and he forgives you.
Only to attend a bigger family meeting and bring up all the transgressions he has forgiven you off to make ridicule of you and even your wife.
That's even after the your wife was part of the earlier delegation to beg him.

How would you feel

Thank you very much for that illustration.
My question:
Should that make me say that my father belongs to the zoo? Should that make me abuse my father, especially when my father did not abuse me before the larger family?
Oya answer.

ElevationD:
Thank you very much for that illustration.
My question:
Should that make me say that my father belongs to the zoo? Should that make me abuse my father, especially when my father did not abuse me before the larger family?
Oya answer.

All is fair in war.

If you don't see all that obasanjo said as abuse to a 65yr old man, then what is abuse again.

Wasky101:
All is fair in war.

If you don't see all that obasanjo said as abuse to a 65yr old man, then what is abuse again.

So all is fair in war. If that is the case, what’s your complain about OBJ?

But you have not shown the abusive words. Do you want to claim that you did not see the abusive words of a 65 year old man to an 89 year old man? In this life, can you show me where Fayose in any ramification compares or matches OBJ?
I showed you Fayose’s abusive words.
Can you please show me where OBJ in his remarks abused Fayose? Can you also show me the abusive words in OBJ’s response to Fayose’s “thank you” message.

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ElevationD:
So all is fair in war. If that is the case, what’s your complain about OBJ?

But you have not shown the abusive words. Do you want to claim that you did not see the abusive words of a 65 year old man to an 89 year old man? In this life, can you show me where Fayose in any ramification compares or matches OBJ?
I showed you Fayose’s abusive words.
Can you please show me where OBJ in his remarks abused Fayose? Can you also show me the abusive words in OBJ’s response to Fayose’s “thank you” message.

For one he called him a thief
Call his wife immature
What more abusive words are you looking for.
All of this was at his 65th birthday.
What are u even on about?
Are u saying rebuking him in private was not enough

Wasky101:
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For one he called him a thief
Call his wife immature
What more abusive words are you looking for.
All of this was at his 65th birthday.
What are u even on about?
Are u saying rebuking him in private was not enough

Na lie you lie so.
Did you watch that video at all? I advise you to watch the video without bias and state where OBJ called Fayose a thief. Watch it again and state where Fayose’s wife was called immature. You apparently have not watched or listened. OBJ acknowledged and praised the efforts of Fayose at the event and told him clearly that he had forgiven him finally. That should have ended the matter. It was NO for Fayose, who wanted to carry on with the spirit of Wike, just because OBJ reminded him of his past misdeeds. The poultry farm that got Fayose into trouble, OBJ warned him against it that year. We all heard it. When he contested the Ekiti elections against greats like Afe Babalola and Femi Falana in 2003, the same OBJ supported him, as his fellow party man. Afe Babalola was and is still a personal friend of OBJ. Fayose’s. name was unknown. We saw how Fayose called them all, prostrated openly and begged them after winning the election. He turned around later to abuse them all!

For your information, when Fayose’s wife put that call across to OBJ and he addressed her, she accepted the fact as it was and begged for forgiveness. If maturity is to be talked about, how can you address a man who watched his own son, who by the way is about the same age as OBJ, threaten to throw out his own mother without a single word said about it so far? Would his own mother have insulted a very accomplished man as OBJ that way?

What was Fayose thinking when he knew in his heart that his quarrel with OBJ was not over, and then invited the man to his celebration? Which bridge was he trying to build? By the way, it was Fayose himself long before now, who had repeatedly called OBJ a thief. He stated sometime ago that OBJ was sitting on stolen funds. He queried how OBJ built Obasanjo farms. What he did not know was that OBJ never needed public funds in those days to build his farm in Ota. The story of that farm is public. Except the blind Ayo and his naive supporters, everyone knew before 1980 under his “operation feed the nation”, that OBJ was a man on intergrity.

I have long followed OBJ and Ayo Fayose. You know nothing about them both please. If Ayo felt aggrieved, he was the one who should have privately registered his disagreement, seeing that he invited the old man to his occasion. He even shamelessly stated that he sent money to OBJ. It meant that he even bribed the man to be part of his celebration. The man did not even as little touch the bag containing his bribe money. Shame on Ayo Fayose.

ElevationD:
Na lie you lie so.
Did you watch that video at all? I advise you to watch the video without bias and state where OBJ called Fayose a thief. Watch it again and state where Fayose’s wife was called immature. You apparently have not watched or listened. OBJ acknowledged and praised the efforts of Fayose at the event and told him clearly that he had forgiven him finally. That should have ended the matter. It was NO for Fayose, who wanted to carry on with the spirit of Wike, just because OBJ reminded him of his past misdeeds. The poultry farm that got Fayose into trouble, OBJ warned him against it that year. We all heard it. When he contested the Ekiti elections against greats like Afe Babalola and Femi Falana in 2003, the same OBJ supported him, as his fellow party man. Afe Babalola was and is still a personal friend of OBJ. Fayose’s. name was unknown. We saw how Fayose called them all, prostrated openly and begged them after winning the election. He turned around later to abuse them all!

For your information, when Fayose’s wife put that call across to OBJ and he addressed her, she accepted the fact as it was and begged for forgiveness. If maturity is to be talked about, how can you address a man who watched his own son, who by the way is about the same age as OBJ, threaten to throw out his own mother without a single word said about it so far? Would his own mother have insulted a very accomplished man as OBJ that way?

What was Fayose thinking when he knew in his heart that his quarrel with OBJ was not over, and then invited the man to his celebration? Which bridge was he trying to build? By the way, it was Fayose himself long before now, who had repeatedly called OBJ a thief. He stated sometime ago that OBJ was sitting on stolen funds. He queried how OBJ built Obasanjo farms. What he did not know was that OBJ never needed public funds in those days to build his farm in Ota. The story of that farm is public. Except the blind Ayo and his naive supporters, everyone knew before 1980 under his “operation feed the nation”, that OBJ was a man on intergrity.

I have long followed OBJ and Ayo Fayose. You know nothing about them both please. If Ayo felt aggrieved, he was the one who should have privately registered his disagreement, seeing that he invited the old man to his occasion. He even shamelessly stated that he sent money to OBJ. It meant that he even bribed the man to be part of his celebration. The man did not even as little touch the bag containing his bribe money. Shame on Ayo Fayose.

Omo this ur talk to long, where u wan make I start from.
I guess u are the one who didn't watch the video.
What was the essence of the whole poultry Gist if not calling him a thief.
Pot calling kettle black.
How can say you watched the video and not hear and see how he deliberately washed Fayose’s wife.
All this is after having rebuked them privately.
What was the reason for going public.
Note that this 2 men have a both good and bad moments in politics.
Why come to highlight all the bad times and ignore the good times