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MaxInDHouse:
You've nailed it but trust the twister he'll surely change the narrative.
If begotten means create or procreate then Jesus is a creature that's why the scriptures called him the firstborn of all creation. Colossians 1:15

That point is making him really annoyed now!

Are you guys serious? I keep on saying that Jesus Christ is begotten. Or is it that you suddenly lost the ability to read? Here I am saying it again, Jesus Christ is begotten of the Father. I believe everything written in the scripture. Now, what is your point or your new attack line?

Janosky:


Is Emusan begotten (Fathered) by God?

Is John 3:16 & Hebrew 5:5 is Jesus the only begotten Son & also begotten by God ?
@ Psalms 2:7 is David /Solomon begotten by God?

Pls, just hide your unbelief & denial of Psalms 2:7, John 3:16 & Hebrew 5:5

We all agreed that Jesus is the begotten of the Father, which was never the debate. But you are saying that He is not the only begotten, and still He is the only begotten, that is very unintelligent.

Janosky:
Tctrills,why are you expressing your unbelief & denial of John 3:16,Psalm 2:7 & Hebrew 5:5 in your own bible?
Tctrills,which verse in your own Bible says that God Yahweh is begotten or only begotten?
E no dey at all.

Every being is begotten creature (Fathered) by God.

Your own Bible says that Jesus is begotten & also only begotten.

This is the irresistible evidence in your bible that Jesus is a creature.

Oga, are you quoting me or quoting someone else? I am sure I never said God, Yahweh, is begotten or only begotten.
You need to calm down and read who wrote what. Do not confuse yourself. The bible says Jesus is the only begotten of the Father. I agree 100%.
But you said Adam is also begotten of the Father, meaning Jesus Christ is not the only begotten. Please read with understanding. Don't be in a hurry and begin to misrepresent people.

Janosky:
John 3:16 & Hebrew 5:5 is Bible truth but to Tctrills it's confusion.
God is my Father who begotten me through the agency of my parents.
Tctrills, is God your Father?
Come & be WAILING.

Okay, we agree that God is the Father of all mankind, so what exactly is your point? This is the part we both 100% agree.
But John 3.16 you quoted says Jesus Christ is the only begotten son. It did not say He is the only Son, but rather the only begotten Son. Do you agree with this? Or are there other begotten children, like you say?

Emusan:
Even when @Tctrills called your attention about @color-red one will think you'll back down but only for you to continue in the same gymnastic.

If Jesus is his Father's ONLY begotten, how come there are other people BEGOTTEN of the same Father?

It's like saying I'm the ONLY child my parents given birth to but my parents still gave birth to many children.

How does that sound?

I believe Janosky is only pretending not to understand. He knows he has trapped himself in an unintelligent belief, so he has to pretend that he doesn't understand the point or the questions we are asking.

Deceit is the fuel of false religion.

tctrills:
I believe Janosky is only pretending not to understand. He knows he has trapped himself in an unintelligent belief, so he has to pretend that he doesn't understand the point or the questions we are asking.

Deceit is the fuel of false religion.

The word pretending as you used it, I guess it's just to spin his head.

He is not pretending but deliberately distorting fact.

He was the one who brought John 3:16 to proof that Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son.

The same him went to another place to fabricate how God begotten ALL CREATIONS.

One will just wonder how such fellow became a graduate.

Emusan:
The word pretending as you used it, I guess it's just to spin his head.

He is not pretending but deliberately distorting fact.

He was the one who brought John 3:16 to proof that Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son.

The same him went to another place to fabricate how God begotten ALL CREATIONS.

One will just wonder how such fellow became a graduate.

The problem is that people like Janosky and MaxInDHouse have choosen to lie for what they believe to be true and they don't see the irony in that.
You say Jesus Christ is the only begotten and at the same time He is not. But some how the rest of us are wrong and he is right.
Strange people.

blueAgent:
Please post the link to my post you claim I wrote.

LITERAL SON!

See story?

Let me just answer the short question:

We are fulfilling the prophecy recorded in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3


In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths.” The law will go out from Zion, the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore.

blueAgent:
What are you doing in mass?

blueAgent:
Keep fooling yourself

End of story!

blueAgent:
Another Lamba.
Jesus imitate his Father, but other Angels cannot or does not want to imitate God?
Religeon would destroy people.

Imitating someone differs from simply obeying Him.

Hope you can grasp that!

blueAgent:
So when God called Jesus his only begotten Son, was God not aware that he has men and Angels that are also his Sons?

I have told you what that means several times but since you won't accept it do whatever you like with it!

So the incarnate was praying to who I?

blueAgent:
Stop deceiving.
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(especially of a deity or spirit) embodied in human form.
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embody or represent (a deity or spirit) in human form.
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BEGOTTEN simply means cause existence of someone so if begotten is used for others then only begotten has another meaning in that context not that there is no other begotten!🙂

tctrills:
Are you guys serious? I keep on saying that Jesus Christ is begotten. Or is it that you suddenly lost the ability to read? Here I am saying it again, Jesus Christ is begotten of the Father. I believe everything written in the scripture. Now, what is your point or your new attack line?

tctrills:
The problem is that people like Janosky and MaxInDHouse have choosen to lie for what they believe to be true and they don't see the irony in that.
You say Jesus Christ is the only begotten and at the same time He is not. But some how the rest of us are wrong and he is right.
Strange people.

Just wait and see how he'll deviate from the issue he created by jumping around with many verses not connected to the main point.

In one thread he posted a screenshot from NET Bible as evidence to support Prov 8:30 interpretation.

I then posted a screenshot from the same NET BIBLE about Col 1:15.

You know he did?

He rejected the same NET BIBLE interpretation of Col 1:15 but still claiming that NET Bible interpretation of Prov 8 is accurate.

MaxInDHouse:
So the incarnate was praying to who I?

I guess you did not read this?

Incarnate
embody or represent (a deity or spirit) in human form.

MaxInDHouse:
I have told you what that means several times but since you won't accept it do whatever you like with it!

And what did it mean?

MaxInDHouse:
Imitating someone differs from simply obeying Him.

Hope you can grasp that!

See Lamba .

Abeg where in the Bible is it written that Jesus was imitating GOD?

MaxInDHouse:
See story?

Let me just answer the short question:

We are fulfilling the prophecy recorded in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3


In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths.” The law will go out from Zion, the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore.

Bla bla bla.

That verse did not mention we would carry umbrella .

You see ,you guys are still not the ones Jesus was referring to.

MaxInDHouse:
So the incarnate was praying to who I?

I have shown you repeatedly that Jesus is the son of God, who has the Godhead and fully divinity dwelling in him.

Been God's Son aslo makes him God, by nature.

Snakes give birth to Snakes.

Humans give birth to humans.

Lions give birth to lions

MaxInDHouse:
BEGOTTEN simply means cause existence of someone so if begotten is used for others then only begotten has another meaning in that context not that there is no other begotten!🙂

Even you know that what you just wrote above is meaningless. Please take your time and explain what is on your mind. Is there one begotten or many begottens?

blueAgent:
I guess you did not read this?
Incarnate
embody or represent (a deity or spirit) in human form.

So Jesus is a deity just like other gods right? Psalms 82:1,6

blueAgent:
And what did it mean?

If you are serious you can go through my previous comments!

blueAgent:
See Lamba .
Abeg where in the Bible is it written that Jesus was imitating GOD?

Read John 5:19

blueAgent:
Bla bla bla.
That verse did not mention we would carry umbrella .
You see ,you guys are still not the ones Jesus was referring to.

So disciples protect themselves from the hot sun must be included in what Bible says shey?

blueAgent:
I have shown you repeatedly that Jesus is the son of God, who has the Godhead and fully divinity dwelling in him.
Been God's Son aslo makes him God, by nature.
Snakes give birth to Snakes.
Humans give birth to humans.
Lions give birth to lions

Just as God gives birth to all His creations and Jesus is the firstborn shey?

tctrills:
Even you know that what you just wrote above is meaningless. Please take your time and explain what is on your mind. Is there one begotten or many begottens?

Make whatever you feel out of it begotten simply means cause someone's birth but if you disagree find your level at least there are many people out there to agree with and start working for your own god!

Maximus692:
Make whatever you feel out of it begotten simply means cause someone's birth but if you disagree find your level at least there are many people out there to agree with and start working for your own god!

So is Jesus Christ the only begotten, or are there multiple begottens. And it's good you are changing your doctrine, the last time, you told me that only firstborns are begotten.

tctrills:
So is Jesus Christ the only begotten, or are there multiple begottens. And it's good you are changing your doctrine, the last time, you told me that only firstborns are begotten.

God created Jesus directly {Proverbs 8:22} and through Jesus God created all other things! Colossians 1:15-16
That's what makes him the only begotten Son of God!
I don't have time for your aimless arguments now if you are not satisfied it's OK believe whatever you wish!🙂

Maximus692:
God created Jesus directly {Proverbs 8:22} and through Jesus God created all other things! Colossians 1:15-16
That's what makes him the only begotten Son of God!
I don't have time for your aimless arguments now if you are not satisfied it's OK believe whatever you wish!🙂

So other creatures are not begotten. Why couldn't you say this all along instead of confusing yourself? If you had said this, there wouldn't have been a need for the argument. To be clear, now you are saying that Jesus Christ is the only begotten of the Father, the rest are not begotten because they came through someone else, right?
To the next question, are you saying that the spirits and angels in heaven came through Jesus Christ?

I'm not interested in your aimless arguments at least you can see what the Bible said!

tctrills:
So other creatures are not begotten. Why couldn't you say this all along instead of confusing yourself? If you had said this, there wouldn't have been a need for the argument. To be clear, now you are saying that Jesus Christ is the only begotten of the Father, the rest are not begotten because they came through someone else, right?
To the next question, are you saying that the spirits and angels in heaven came through Jesus Christ?