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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 11:34am On Nov 20, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Do you think Judges pronounce judgement based on agitations or emotions of the accused/defendant?

Shouting on top of his voice or accusing the judge of being compromised would not make the judge release him if he has a bad case. (which I think he does)

Only a lawyer can explore the loopholes in the charges against him and use those loopholes to put up a defense for him. His opinion about Omotosho won't matter if he is sentenced to prison because of his bad case. Even if he appeals, the appeal court will most likely affirm the lower court's judgement if he continues to fooolishly agitate for himself instead of getting a good lawyer to argue his case.
I hope you got my response correctly.

I said it is wiser to use a lawyer. However that is on the premise that justice will actually be done.

Whether he agitated or not, if the body language is set at declaring him guilty, it won't stop the ruling. So it's better to agitate so that he won't go down silent.

If you're going to argue whether the judge would not set at declaring him guilty, don't waste your time. Didn't you see how our PEPT and Supreme Court sold out people's mandate in the electoral panel?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Realtord43: 11:35am On Nov 20, 2025
Trevor012:
No far away from the main Abraka. Closer to Eku side.
Only firefighters can put out this kind of 🔥

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 11:36am On Nov 20, 2025
izzou:
And then you go about shouting and insulting the whole court?

You call the Judge "Mad"...Tells him God will punish him...Abi?

I really don't blame him....Nah I don't, at all

If not that Buhari wanted to score very nonsense points, this matter would have been a forgotten issue
If you're in his place, when they pass a unlawful judgement on you like sentence you to death, take a bow and say, as my lord pleases'.

If you do otherwise, then you're just being silly
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 11:38am On Nov 20, 2025
Judges excuse themselves from the show of shame at the judicial council

https://x.com/ruffydfire/status/1991208536425263537?t=_SzQdcNmt2wHirGMxJf46A&s=19

Raumdeuter will just be defending rubbish 😂. Always being disgraced because he supports evil
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:39am On Nov 20, 2025
Spy360:
If you're in his place, when they pass a unlawful judgement on you like sentence you to death, take a bow and say, as my lord pleases'.

If you do otherwise, then you're just being silly
1) They haven't passed any judgement yet

2) He did not submit his closing statement, and the judge has to deliver the judgment today. The judge dismissed it and Kanu is saying he has no right to, but he didn't submit it.

He should go and rest. I wonder when barking in a court changes your conviction
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:42am On Nov 20, 2025
izzou:
If na you be the judge, you go just discharge and acquit am?
For where?

The judge even begged him to use counsel of senior lawyers like Kanu Agabi, he declined. The fact that he was always unruly in court sef will count against him.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Joeboypondeck(m): 11:43am On Nov 20, 2025
Another day to warn you about Stephen ayantoye

He now use foreign numbers and virtual bank account to scam people's on nairaland and social media platforms

Don't fall victim guy's

Don't say I didn't warn you
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by reccy(m): 11:44am On Nov 20, 2025
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by reccy(m): 11:45am On Nov 20, 2025
Which one be Stephen ayantoye again....
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Joeboypondeck(m): 11:46am On Nov 20, 2025
reccy:
Which one be Stephen ayantoye again....
search for his name on Google
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:46am On Nov 20, 2025
Spy360:
I hope you got my response correctly.

I said it is wiser to use a lawyer. However that is on the premise that justice will actually be done.

Whether he agitated or not, if the body language is set at declaring him guilty, it won't stop the ruling. So it's better to agitate so that he won't go down silent.

If you're going to argue whether the judge would not set at declaring him guilty, don't waste your time. Didn't you see how our PEPT and Supreme Court sold out people's mandate in the electoral panel?
I think u should try and follow the judgement on Channels TV Live streaming on Youtube. The judge alleged this man refused to call defense witness who would have made his defense strong.

How can he refuse to open defence and then turn around to claim the court is bent on declaring him guilty ?

Let me tell u the truth; Kanu is showing signs of madness with how he has handled this case.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:47am On Nov 20, 2025
BlueRayDick:
For where?

The judge even begged him to use counsel of senior lawyers like Kanu Agabi, he declined. The fact that he was always unruly in court sef will count against him.
Look at how the DSS was begging him to leave the court room. He was just shouting and cursing. There's no courtroom on earth where that would be allowed. No one.

I don't blame him at all. He's now a hero, courtesy of Buhari. His case now looks like persecution too, when you see how terrorists from the north are pampered.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:49am On Nov 20, 2025
BlueRayDick:
I think u should try and follow the judgement on Channels TV Live streaming on Youtube. The judge alleged this man refused to call defense witness who would have made his defense strong.

How can he refuse to open defence and then turn around to claim the court is bent on declaring him guilty ?

Let me tell u the truth; Kanu is showing signs of madness with how he has handled this case.
The Judge even tried to be lenient sef.

When he was saying rubbish, the judge stopped him, and told his sacked lawyers to help him out. He even was willing to allow them sit near him, Incase he needed any help presenting his case.

After everything, he didn't let the judge talk. Just dey shout.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:51am On Nov 20, 2025
izzou:
Look at how the DSS was begging him to leave the court room. He was just shouting and cursing. There's no courtroom on earth where that would be allowed. No one.

I don't blame him at all. He's now a hero, courtesy of Buhari. His case now looks like persecution too, when you see how terrorists from the north are pampered.
I also have issues with how Buhari held him for long without convicting him. The whole thing made it look like he was being persecuted when in fact he is supposed to be made to answer for his crime of inciting violence and destabilizing the eastern part of the country.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 12:01pm On Nov 20, 2025
Extraordinary rendition

1. Kenyan court says it is illegal
2. Court of Appeal said it is illegal
3. Supreme Court said it is illegal
4. United Nations Human Rights Council Working Group said it is illegal


@ Izzou
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:01pm On Nov 20, 2025
BlueRayDick:
I also have issues with how Buhari held him for long without convicting him. The whole thing made it look like he was being persecuted when in fact he is supposed to be made to answer for his crime of inciting violence and destabilizing the eastern part of the country.
The Prosecution and Defence arguments was mostly based on technicality

"Dismiss this motion, don't dismiss this motion"

People who have died because of his reckless statements have suddenly been forgotten, courtesy of Buhari
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 12:04pm On Nov 20, 2025
izzou:
1) They haven't passed any judgement yet

2) He did not submit his closing statement, and the judge has to deliver the judgment today. The judge dismissed it and Kanu is saying he has no right to, but he didn't submit it.

He should go and rest. I wonder when barking in a court changes your conviction
That's why it's good to bark instead of going down in silence especially when the judge is a rogue.

Judge that Wike holds his nudes
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:04pm On Nov 20, 2025
izzou:
The Prosecution and Defence arguments was mostly based on technicality

"Dismiss this motion, don't dismiss this motion"

People who have died because of his reckless statements have suddenly been forgotten, courtesy of Buhari
Buhari messed up on all fronts; that's why I just shake my head when I see people trying to whitewash him.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 12:05pm On Nov 20, 2025
BlueRayDick:
I think u should try and follow the judgement on Channels TV Live streaming on Youtube. The judge alleged this man refused to call defense witness who would have made his defense strong.

How can he refuse to open defence and then turn around to claim the court is bent on declaring him guilty ?

Let me tell u the truth; Kanu is showing signs of madness with how he has handled this case.
Are you insinuating that he has a genuine defense if he had used his lawyers?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 12:06pm On Nov 20, 2025
izzou:
Look at how the DSS was begging him to leave the court room. He was just shouting and cursing. There's no courtroom on earth where that would be allowed. No one.

I don't blame him at all. He's now a hero, courtesy of Buhari. His case now looks like persecution too, when you see how terrorists from the north are pampered.
There are reports that those DSS guys attached to him are sympathetic with him. They know the truth
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:07pm On Nov 20, 2025
Spy360:
There are reports that those DSS guys attached to him are sympathetic with him. They know the truth
grin grin grin grin

Be serious for once grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 12:07pm On Nov 20, 2025
BlueRayDick:
I also have issues with how Buhari held him for long without convicting him. The whole thing made it look like he was being persecuted when in fact he is supposed to be made to answer for his crime of inciting violence and destabilizing the eastern part of the country.
Are you aware that the Appeal Court declared him discharged and acquitted?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 12:10pm On Nov 20, 2025
izzou:
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Be serious for once grin
This matter has been heard before and he was discharged and acquitted.

How this matter is still ongoing is questionable

That is why he submitted no defense
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:10pm On Nov 20, 2025
Spy360:
This matter has been heard before and he was discharged and acquitted.

How this matter is still ongoing is questionable

That is why he submitted no defense
It depends on what they are charging him for, again
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:16pm On Nov 20, 2025
Spy360:
Are you insinuating that he has a genuine defense if he had used his lawyers?
No, I'm not.

I'm saying he didn't make an attempt to defend himself after telling the court he would be doing so without the help of his lawyers. He discarded the advice of the judge and that of his legal counsel. He then proceed to be unruly in court without actually putting up a defence.

If he had allowed his lawyers do their jobs, he may have a chance by them presenting a superior argument to that of the prosecution team.

He has thrown away his chance of presenting his case like a reasonable and civil person. Whatever judgement the court passes today, Kanu deserves it for how he has conducted himself
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 12:22pm On Nov 20, 2025
izzou:
It depends on what they are charging him for, again
Same trial na. No be IPOB matter again?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:23pm On Nov 20, 2025
Spy360:
Are you aware that the Appeal Court declared him discharged and acquitted?
This matter has been treated already.

Appeal court discharged him but did not acquit him. The appeal court ruled on a single issue of rendition and discharged him on the basis that his rendition was illegal.

FG appealed that decision at the supreme court and the supreme court overturned the decision of the appeal court. You can check and confirm this urself.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 12:23pm On Nov 20, 2025
BlueRayDick:
No, I'm not.

I'm saying he didn't make an attempt to defend himself after telling the court he would be doing so without the help of his lawyers. He discarded the advice of the judge and that of his legal counsel. He then proceed to be unruly in court without actually putting up a defence.

If he had allowed his lawyers do their jobs, he may have a chance by them presenting a superior argument to that of the prosecution team.

He has thrown away his chance of presenting his case like a reasonable and civil person. Whatever judgement the court passes today, Kanu deserves it for how he has conducted himself
So I don't get how you're bothered about whether he agitated in court or not.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:26pm On Nov 20, 2025
Spy360:
So I don't get how you're bothered about whether he agitated in court or not.
Who says I'm bothered?

I passed a commentary that with the way things are going he will be sentenced to prison because he chose not to use legal counsel but chose to be acting drama in the court room.

How does that translate to me being bothered he is throwing away his lifeline? undecided
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 12:26pm On Nov 20, 2025
BlueRayDick:
This matter has been treated already.

Appeal court discharged him but did not acquit him. The appeal court ruled on a single issue of rendition and discharged him on the basis that his rendition was illegal.

FG appealed that decision at the supreme court and the supreme court overturned the decision of the appeal court. You can check and confirm this urself.
The SC acknowledged that the rendition was illegal, siding with the decision of the Appeal Court. Isn't that enough to let him go.

Why start the trial afresh unless there is a grand plan to nail him.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 12:26pm On Nov 20, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Who says I'm bothered?

I passed a commentary that with the way things are going he will be sentenced to prison because he chose not to use legal counsel but chose to be acting drama in the court room.

How does that translate to me being bothered he is throwing away his lifeline? undecided
I am sorry, I don't get you.

If his agitations will not affect the decision of the court, and you sincerely think he is guilty. So who cares if he shouts in court or keeps silent.

For me it's better to shout o 😂

That's how chickens do because they know they will still die. So let the world know that they protested at least
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:31pm On Nov 20, 2025
Spy360:
The SC acknowledged that the rendition was illegal, siding with the decision of the Appeal Court. Isn't that enough to let him go.

Why start the trial afresh unless there is a grand plan to nail him.
What does this even mean? grin grin grin

They should let him go because Spy360 says so? Initially you claimed he was discharged and acquitted, now that u know he wasn't acquitted u switch to asking why they didn't let him go . U are funny aswear.

You see why I ask u to follow the judgement like I'm currently doing on Channels live stream? The Judge has already quoted relevant case laws that the manner of his rendition doesn't affect the trial in any way.

He didn't put in defense despite having several opportunities to do so. He has laid his bed, the judge will soon make him lie on it. It's only a matter of time. Stay Jiggy!
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