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Dtruthspeaker:
You are real and your words are real and your phone or laptop or tablet which you used to say these words are real. So, don't confuse things

Dtruthspeaker:
So you do not see the great fear and chill people who are about to die have to the point that people around them who are even not yet dying also feel?

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I am sure you have not seen the death of a person who t lived his life righteously. If you had, you would have known that hell is real and a good world people call heaven is also real.

GanagiBitrus:
This shouldn't be a subject of argument.

100psi is 100psi. It's not subjective.

If I give you ₦10m, you may consider it reasonable to buy land, while another will consider it reasonable to buy a car.

liveyourlife007:
😊 Interesting. Do you want us to brainstorm on the Topic.
We can stretch it to reincarnation,Life after death, The 5th Dimension,Quantum physics, Black hole and more.
But I need to know if you are a believer or an Atheist.

Dtruthspeaker:
Do you not see the ruler between the two persons is "reasonability"

And the rule of reasonability is not based subjectivity but on objectivity that is why it is a ruler just like PSI.

josielewa:
HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED A NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE OR SITUATION, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHY SOME PEOPLE HAVE THAT KIND OF FEELING..WHEN A MAN IS ABOUT TO DIE, EITHER GOOD OR EVIL, THERE IS A WAY THE BRAIN ACTIVITY CHANGES. PEOPLE WILL USUALLY MOST OF THE TIME SEE A WHITE LIGHT BEFORE EVERYTHING FADES AWAY, SAME WAY A CHILD STAYS IN THE DARK, AND EXPERIENCE LIGHT WHEN USHERED INTO A NEW WORLD. ITS A LOOP.

Dtruthspeaker:
I have and everyone living have had a close shave and encounter with death which is why we all naturally fear it.

However I, and I know we all have seen a person or 2 who in the face of on coming death were not afraid. Some even said "ehn make e come now, no problem" looking at us and wondering why we were afraid.

And that is where the differences is.

josielewa:
A MAN SAYING HE IS NOT AFRAID OF IT MEANS NOTHING.., THAT DOESNT PROVE ANYTHING ABOUT DEATH.. SOLDIERS GO TO WAR DAILY KNOWING THEY WILL DIE, ITS A WILL TO SERVE OR FOR A PURPOSE, IT CHANGES NOTHING ABOUT DEATH BEING SUPERNATURAL OR SOME SPIRITUAL INTONATION. I CAN SAY I WANT TO DIE TONIGHT MAYBE DUE TO MY SUFFERING, OR DUE TO A PARTICULAR REASON. THATS ME HAVING A WILL TO DO IT. NOTHING SPIRITUAL OR SUPERNATURAL ABOUT DEATH...DEATH IS THE END OF ALL LIVING ORGANISM, ITS PATH OF THE CODE OF LIFE

Dtruthspeaker:
Why did you not clearly say that you are not afraid of death? You cannot because you know that all the guilts you are guilty for, follow you through your life till the point of death. But you are living in denial.

You think you are the first and those who died did not live in denial?

You are joking. Your power of denial vanishes when death is near. Go and check any dying person and see whether they have any power to deny Truth.

GanagiBitrus:
So your religious beliefs you consider reasonable should also be reasonable to everyone else?
Dey play.

MikeofKd:
I can't argue with you , When you become more spiritually aware you can let me know.

josielewa:
A MAN SAYING HE IS NOT AFRAID OF IT MEANS NOTHING.., THAT DOESNT PROVE ANYTHING ABOUT DEATH..

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not see that we were not looking at his words?

As I said, you think all who have died before you did not have the power of denial?

The power of denial always vanishes when death is near. Go and check any dying persons and see whether they have any power to deny Truth.

KingAzubuike:
There is a parallel universe out there. Because energy cannot be destroyed, life continues in the parallel universe. The kind of life you will continue there depends on the choices you made prior to your death in this dimension.

For example, if you are young and died from a car crash on earth, in a parallel universe you would have remained indoors instead of going out that day. Meaning you would not be involved in a car crash.

If you died from old age on earth, in a parallel universe, you'd roll back the years albeit, certain decisions you made on this dimension would be different from the choices and decisions you made in that parallel universe. For example, I a parallel universe, you would have married a different woman.
Abacha would bot have died and would have still been ruling nigeria.
Or Nigeria would have still been under the British colony.
We might even still be in 1920 instead of 2025
Flying cars might be existing in a parallel universe.
Your mother might have married a different person and hence the way you look in this dimension might be different from the way you would have looked in another.

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

josielewa:
CAN YOU PROVE THE PARALLEL UNIVERSE EXIST APART FROM THEORIES....ANYTHING YOU SAY HERE SHOLD HAVE PROVE, OR BEEN PROVEN BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT...

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

josielewa:
POWER OF DENIAL, PLS EXPANTIATE...

Host78:
what was it like before you were born?

It wasn't nothing.

It just wasn't. Nothing was before you were born. Not even your 'self'.

The world unfolds almost immediately you became conscious.

It's the same when you die. The world folds up immediately and there's that emptiness. Not darkness but emptiness..

We can't imagine this complete nothingness.

As such, we do not come from anywhere at least not one we can point to. And we do not go anywhere, at least not one we can point to.

Everything anyone says is something they learned from others who has not seen it before

Dtruthspeaker:
Do you real eyes that you are committing the same offence you accuse others of committing? That is "Everything anyone says is something they learned from others who has not seen it before"

For, you too did not see these things you say, so you are wrong just like the others.

Meanwhile, Christ Jesus came from heaven, and was there when this world and us began yet you do not believe Him. Anyway, it's the exercise of your right.

Host78:
I am not committing the same thing.

It is a fact that we have no idea of where we came from, or if we came from anywhere.

It is also a fact that we only became aware of the world the moment we became conscious.

The world also disappears completely when we become unconscious or falls deeply asleep.

These are facts we can all agree with. No one needs to tell us this or we need to 'believe' it.

It's something we have all experienced.

But none of us has been to any other side for a fact.

We have not been there before we were born. We have no memories of it if we have ever died and come back to testify to it personally.

Host78:
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Instead we have other individuals who are exactly like us but who insist they are not like us and that they have experienced these other sides.

Who said we must believe these their accounts of the other sides.

Unfortunately, the accounts are as varied as there are multiple religions.

lilsmart:
I once askedmy grandpa this question. (RIP papa), he immediately said my child, sit down. Sit by this fire and let an old man share with you the wisdom of our fathers and our fathers' fathers. He then looked straight into my eyes and said this is a good question, and it touches the very heart of who we are.
But listen carefully, child, They are not gone.


They are now the Living Dead. They are with us still. They sit with us in the quiet moments. They hear us when we speak their names. They watch over the family, for they are the guardians of our lineage.
This is why we pour libations a little palm wine, gin or water onto the earth. We are giving them drink. This is why we place food for them at our ceremonies. We are sharing our meal. We do not "worship" we honour them, we remember them, we include them in the life of the family.

If we forget them, if we stop speaking their names and telling their stories, then their spirit can fade. This is the true death, the second death, when you are forgotten by the living. This is the greatest tragedy.

Dtruthspeaker:
You know this is clearly folk lore?

lilsmart:
It is folklore, and it is also truth. It's not a story we tell for fun, but a way of life. For us, it's a different way of seeing the world, where the dead remain part of the family

prayers like the "Eternal Rest" prayer ask for God's mercy for the souls of the departed. It's not praying to them as deities, but it is a sacred act of remembering and including them in our spiritual family, asking for their peace. It's a different expression of the same core idea that the bonds of family and community transcend death.

Dtruthspeaker:
But you see say you dey feel the pain even though the pain no dey physical before you die.

Dat na d sign wey dey tell you.

KingDashx:
Ghost dey die?

Teenwolf:
The computational power of quantum computers suggests that we live in a multiverse, because the machine performs its calculations using many parallel versions of itself operating across alternate realities.

Dtruthspeaker:
You are the one doing the denial na so study it. But this is what people have said about it

"The easiest way to solve a problem is to deny it exists."
Isaac Asimov

It's not denial. I'm just selective about the reality I accept. Bill Watterson

The worst lies are the lies we tell ourselves. We live in denial of what we do, even what we think. Richard Barch

That which is denied cannot be healed. Brennan Manning

Dtruthspeaker:
I have and everyone living have had a close shave and encounter with death which is why we all naturally fear it.

However I, and I know we all have seen a person or 2 who in the face of on coming death were not afraid. Some even said "ehn make e come now, no problem" looking at us and wondering why we were afraid.

And that is where the differences is.