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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 9:18am On Nov 21, 2025
Amoto94:
She said the violence affects both Christians and Muslims, asking the Nigerian government to do more to protect its citizens.

https://www.channelstv.com/2025/11/20/alleged-christian-genocide-trumps-military-threat-to-nigeria-is-reckless-congresswoman/
She's a Democrat?

That might explain her stance.

While the violence affects both religions, Christians are particular, intentional, jihadic targets.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:20am On Nov 21, 2025
monerozi5590:
I laugh when you people say this. Blame FG that cannot secure the country. Even Tinubu is involve in negotiating with terrorists which I am against.

Lemme ask you a question. You are a big man in one community in the North with lots of farms. Terrorists, bandits came and ask you give us so so amount if not you won't harvest your crop. What will you do? Would you trust FG to secure your property or give in to the demand of the terrorists/bandits.?
We are talking about the attitude of our state leaders to the problem. Nobody is absolving anybody of the blame.

And your example of a "Big man" is wrong. Use a governor.

How can a governor negotiate with terrorists? Are you telling me that those terrorists I saw in that BBC documentary, are bigger than the entire Security architecture of Zamfara state? Brooo!!

Today, farmers are paying royalties to bandits, and a governor is there. I can understand if the situation is overwhelming, but we have repeatedly seen (from their attitude) that they have no interest in doing their bit.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 9:21am On Nov 21, 2025
afrodoc2:
You see as Spy is not tackling his fellow Igbos that are in support of this judgement.

The other time when people were asking the FG to send the military to the SE to tackle this sit at home issue and the consequent killings, he was accusing the non-Igbos among them of tribalism but refused to face the Igbos since he could not accuse them of same.
Are they replying to my posts?

😂

Who are my fellow Igbos here that are in support of injustice? Please name them let me tackle them.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 9:26am On Nov 21, 2025
izzou:
We are talking about the attitude of our state leaders to the problem. Nobody is absolving anybody of the blame.

And your example of a "Big man" is wrong. Use a governor.

How can a governor negotiate with terrorists? Are you telling me that those terrorists I saw in that BBC documentary, are bigger than the entire Security architecture of Zamfara state? Brooo!!

Today, farmers are paying royalties to bandits, and a governor is there. I can understand if the situation is overwhelming, but we have repeatedly seen (from their attitude) that they have no interest in doing their bit.
What will a governor do if kids in his state are kidnapped? What will you do if you were the governor?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 9:29am On Nov 21, 2025
BlueRayDick:
In Ur post which I responded to, you claimed Northerners don't shield their brothers and hammered on South Easterners showing solidarity with Kanu.

So I had bring it to Ur notice that Buhari was one of the northern voices that criticized Jonathan's government when he tried to fight the boko haram menace at its infancy. Perhaps if Buhari had supported Jonathan government's military campaign against Boko Haram the north would not be in the mess it is today.

Don't you think so?

I also don't support IPOB neither do I support any call by Obi for IPOB and Kanu to be shown leniency. I am not one of those people who support everything the candidate I voted for does. Where I disagree with him(like this IPOB issue), I will state it clearly without mincing words.
I don't support Buhari utterances in trying to win election. When he became president him himself knew what he said was nonsense.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 9:35am On Nov 21, 2025
GrammarNazi1:
She's a Democrat?

That might explain her stance.

While the violence affects both religions, Christians are particular, intentional, jihadic targets.
If Christians are crying out for being targeted for killings I don't see how it concerns Muslims unless they feel they are responsible or they feel associated with the killers and so want to shield them.

Muslims coming out to deny the claims is shocking to me and hypocritical because if they claim Boko Haram and ISWAP do not represent them, then they should support the Christian claim. And ask government or Trump to go after the killers.

There's a lot of hypocrisy going on. Why are they shielding Boko Haram and ISWAP and Fulani jihadists?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 9:35am On Nov 21, 2025
A Demand for Accuracy, Not Scapegoats for a Crisis We Created By Gimba Kakanda

The only caution we must all preach in confronting the Frankenstein’s monster that Nigeria’s security crisis has become is the need to tone down the growing conspiracy theories that foreigners masterminded our descent into this chaos. We are not here because of some CIA or Mossad agenda. My point is not to deny that there are agendas designed to widen our divides. Rather, it is to reject the false comfort of outsourcing blame for a crisis whose roots were watered by our own history, our own choices, and our own unresolved grievances.

I say this not as an observer from the sidelines but as someone who has lived in the North all my life and watched its disintegration into an unrecognisable habitat. I lived in Jos for years during one of the most perilous periods to do so, and I saw up close how a wounded community can pass resentment from one generation to the next, each side convinced it is the eternal victim. I saw how a single narrative of injustice, left to fester, becomes a story parents pass to their children, and those children, when grown, retell as truth. That tragedy is the perfect metaphor for Nigeria’s ethno-religious and resource-based tensions today, misunderstandings born from the absence of justice and repeated until they become inherited memory. It is this pattern, not foreigners, that animates so much of the suspicion and hostility that now colours our daily interactions.

We did not get here by accident. Cracks in governance allowed small time criminals to evolve into threats that required military deployment. Those were cockroaches who once barely survived the attention of even a rural police post. So foreign actors did not light this fire. We did. They only took advantage of the fault lines we created over generations.

We may seem like a peculiar study for anthropologists, but there is no grievance we experience in Nigeria now that has not been experienced and managed elsewhere in even worse scales. Boko Haram did not emerge from a vacuum. It was an ideology left to fester until it was too late. Yet its earliest casualties included both the Muslim clerical establishment, political and traditional rulers, from the Sheikh Jaafar Mahmud Adam, down through Major General Mohammed Shuwa, to the Emir of Gwoza, Alhaji Idrissa Timta. All of them were assassinated by those we are expected to believe share a common faith with them.

So no, foreigners are not the masterminds of our dysfunction as a nation. We can resist their attempts to manipulate our narrative without crediting them with a chaos they did not create. The tragedy we face is one of our own making, and no politician, no matter how adored, is insulated from its consequences. The only true profiteers are those hiding in the forests and those who weaponise, finance, and launder money for them.

Our healing begins not with conspiracies but with confronting our own invention and whatever support that comes with it should be accepted. There is no world in which telling a distorted narrative of a crisis that consumes all as one against just one group is a sensible advocacy for solution. That is an invitation for a new layer of chaos.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 9:36am On Nov 21, 2025
Spy360:
If Christians are crying out for being targeted for killings I don't see how it concerns Muslims unless they feel they are responsible or they feel associated with the killers and so want to shield them.

Muslims coming out to deny the claims is shocking to me and hypocritical because if they claim Boko Haram and ISWAP do not represent them, then they should support the Christian claim. And ask government or Trump to go after the killers.

There's a lot of hypocrisy going on. Why are they shielding Boko Haram and ISWAP and Fulani jihadists?
I agree with you.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 9:43am On Nov 21, 2025
GrammarNazi1:
I agree with you.
Saying help should not come for Christians and their excuse is that they are also victims... doesn't make sense to me.

If you're a victim of the same attacks, shouldn't that be the key reason why you should support any form of help?

Muslims in Nigeria that are against this Christian genocide claims are hypocrites and complicit.

That's my understanding.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 9:47am On Nov 21, 2025
But why are the original Muslims from the north afraid of help from America
If you are also victims, help is coming
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 9:48am On Nov 21, 2025
Amoto94:
She said the violence affects both Christians and Muslims, asking the Nigerian government to do more to protect its citizens.

https://www.channelstv.com/2025/11/20/alleged-christian-genocide-trumps-military-threat-to-nigeria-is-reckless-congresswoman/
Don't stress yourself, FG have agreed to form a task force with the US, to wipe out the terrorists who see nothing in killing for their god/sponsors.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 9:51am On Nov 21, 2025
Documents obtained from the United States Department of Justice (DoJ) reveal that a coalition of pro-Biafra groups is behind the campaign of the ‘Christian genocide in Nigeria’, leading President Donald Trump to declare Nigeria a CPC.
https://guardian.ng/news/biafra-lobby-network-fuelling-christian-genocide-campaign-in-u-s/
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 9:53am On Nov 21, 2025
Na so we go just fold have till dem finish ushuh??

Make dem legalise "ghurn" for some red hot regions na

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 9:55am On Nov 21, 2025
airmark:
Don't stress yourself, FG have agreed to form a task force with the US, to wipe out the terrorists who see nothing in killing for their god/sponsors.
Baba.

This is very risky cos the military will always share intel to d terrorists..


Wish they can just do it alone or recruit new sets
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:57am On Nov 21, 2025
iamoyindamola:
But why are the original Muslims from the north afraid of help from America
If you are also victims, help is coming
This is the million dollar question they have failed to answer. Most of them know what they are, they are just disguising.

For example the Kwara church attacks now , let's say America wants to go after the terrorists ; why should a normal Muslim be bothered since he or she doesn't share any sympathetic feeling with the Killers.

Also, I'm sure people who have always boldly claim they support death penalty for blasphemy are suddenly jittery that sanctions may be imposed on them. That's why most of them are sleeping on Twitter day and night trying to change the narrative. Unfortunately for them, the terrorists keep handing them ropes to hang themselves with their increased attack in the past few weeks.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 10:05am On Nov 21, 2025
BlueRayDick:
This is the million dollar question they have failed to answer. Most of them know what they are, they are just disguising.

For example the Kwara church attacks now , let's say America wants to go after the terrorists ; why should a normal Muslim be bothered since he or she doesn't share any sympathetic feeling with the Killers.

Also, I'm sure people who have always boldly claim they support death penalty for blasphemy are suddenly jittery that sanctions may be imposed on them. That's why most of them are sleeping on Twitter day and night trying to change the narrative. Unfortunately for them, the terrorists keep handing them ropes to hang themselves with their increased attack in the past few weeks.
They claimed they are victims too but refuse to accept help, how is that making sense
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 10:05am On Nov 21, 2025
Segedinho:
Baba.

This is very risky cos the military will always share intel to d terrorists..


Wish they can just do it alone or recruit new sets
There's nohow the US can do it alone. They definitely must have learnt about the ambushes and infiltration of our forces and I believe they have what it takes to take care of that.

The terrorists know the game will be up soon, that's why they are in a rush trying to populate their settings with kidnapped victims and use them as shields when US arrive.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Sportsweb: 10:07am On Nov 21, 2025
Daily type shii

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by reccy(m): 10:07am On Nov 21, 2025
The military hierarchy is compromised already. There's no way out of these menaces except we request for external help which Trump want to give us at platter of gold.

Regardless of who initiated it or who is behind the information before it got to Trump, that's inconsequential for now. We need help before we are all wiped out by these terrorists.


No sane person should be concerned about the codename since the solutions to the problem also has a profound effects on you.

We are cool
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:12am On Nov 21, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Also, I'm sure people who have always boldly claim they support death penalty for blasphemy are suddenly jittery that sanctions may be imposed on them. That's why most of them are sleeping on Twitter day and night trying to change the narrative. Unfortunately for them, the terrorists keep handing them ropes to hang themselves with their increased attack in the past few weeks.
I see what you subbed there
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:48am On Nov 21, 2025
liveLongNprospa:
Happy he was sentenced.
I didn't realize the struggle we all faced in ENDSARS protest was orchestrated by NMK.

Years down the line, I hope ENDSARS will not be referred to as an igbo sponsored protest
Just so we are clear, if we had no internet to document stuff and 30yrs down the line someone screams "that's how IPOB destroyed Lagos and the SW in 2019" in the name of politics and what not.. There will be no evidence to properly counter it? 😂😂


What a wonderful country😂
I wonder just how much historical distortion has taken place in our small history as a country
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:51am On Nov 21, 2025
Amoto94:
She said the violence affects both Christians and Muslims, asking the Nigerian government to do more to protect its citizens.

https://www.channelstv.com/2025/11/20/alleged-christian-genocide-trumps-military-threat-to-nigeria-is-reckless-congresswoman/
Lol the way democrats have lost their minds this period in the name of opposing Trump on this issue
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 11:00am On Nov 21, 2025
liveLongNprospa:
Lol the way democrats have lost their minds this period in the name of opposing Trump on this issue
TDS on steroids. It doesn't matter what it is, those Democrats just exist to oppose anything and everything Trump does. So it's no suprise they're denying the genocide in Nigeria and against America helping out. All the free Palestine accounts are now okay with Christian lives being lost in Nigeria.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 11:02am On Nov 21, 2025
Segedinho:
Na so we go just fold have till dem finish ushuh??

Make dem legalise "ghurn" for some red hot regions na
Hom many such mass kidnappings has now happened under the watch of the one who tamed the Atlantic ocean.....?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by EmmanuelScott1(m): 11:04am On Nov 21, 2025
EmmanuelScott1:
Since Trump said he will fight terrorism, all these bandits, BH, and ISWAP have been attacking villages every day.

I mean, ever since Trump declared war on the terrorists, there have been more attacks day by day than before his announcement.
Walahi, that trump message triggered those m***dafuckers.

Tinubu should resign
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 11:14am On Nov 21, 2025
airmark:
There's nohow the US can do it alone. They definitely must have learnt about the ambushes and infiltration of our forces and I believe they have what it takes to take care of that.

The terrorists know the game will be up soon, that's why they are in a rush trying to populate their settings with kidnapped victims and use them as shields when US arrive.
Drone from hades would be appreciated than working in a complicit environment
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 11:16am On Nov 21, 2025
Ellexy:
Hom many such mass kidnappings has now happened under the watch of the one who takes the Atlantic ocean.....?
The cry of bring back our girls haven't really begun then kebbi n now niger.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 11:26am On Nov 21, 2025
iamoyindamola:
But why are the original Muslims from the north afraid of help from America
If you are also victims, help is coming
Thank you.

It's the northern Muslims and it seems there is an agenda beyond what southerners think.

It may not just be religious afterall, but all conquest. Some elements want to make sure that the Christians who they feel are minority continue to be subservient to them.

They are OK with the insecurity as long as it keeps the Christian population in check
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Sportsweb: 11:28am On Nov 21, 2025
Anytime moslems are referred as terrorists, the so called moderate moslems will creep out crying how not all Moslems are not terrorists, and how those islamic terrorists are not true moslems and don't represent them. But they can never do anything to stop these so called terrorists that tarnish the image of their religion.. instead you will see so Called moderate justifying blasphemy like the one that happened here.
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