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Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Fenrir(m): 4:03pm On Nov 06, 2025
lawani:
Yes President George W Bush and even others adopted me as their son because they knew getting me out of the mess would take a long time.
If a sitting or former U.S. President had legally or even symbolically adopted you, it would be publicly documented — official records, press coverage, or at the very least, international media reports.

There’s absolutely no record of that anywhere. Not a mention in U.S., Nigerian, or international archives. A presidential adoption isn’t a private, hidden matter — it would make global news instantly.

This isn’t about faith or spirituality; it’s about verifiable fact.
When someone claims events of that scale without evidence, it crosses from personal belief into clear fabrication.

So if we’re talking about truth, the burden of proof isn’t on others to believe it — it’s on you to show even one credible source.
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Fenrir(m): 4:08pm On Nov 06, 2025
Or is “George W. Bush” the name of the spirit that owns you?
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Fenrir(m): 4:24pm On Nov 06, 2025
You’ve said a lot across different platforms, but your own words tell the full story better than anyone else could.

On your LinkedIn, you claim that President George W. Bush adopted you as his son, and that his daughter Barbara “waits for you” — yet there’s not a single public record, news report, or legal document anywhere to verify that. A presidential adoption, especially across continents, would be global news.

On Facebook, you call yourself a “self-taught Awo Orunmila” and describe a system where humans are “food farms for spirits,” ranked by “God-like managerial ability” and “empathy scores.” You say spirits harvest food from Earth and spend “three hundred years in the God grid.” That’s not research — that’s your own mythology.

Here, on this forum, you’ve also said you’re not affiliated with any diviners or elders, that you charge ₦20,000 for consultations, and that your spirit owns you. You even compare your “spiritual research” to academic science, while dismissing evidence, peer review, and falsifiability — the very foundations of research.

When all of this is taken together, it’s clear there’s no consistency or external validation anywhere in your claims. The only constant is that you declare your ideas as truth, charge for them, and then redefine “research” whenever questioned.

That isn’t spiritual enlightenment — it’s self-invention.
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Fenrir(m): 4:27pm On Nov 06, 2025
Fenrir:
You’ve said a lot across different platforms, but your own words tell the full story better than anyone else could.

On your LinkedIn, you claim that President George W. Bush adopted you as his son, and that his daughter Barbara “waits for you” — yet there’s not a single public record, news report, or legal document anywhere to verify that. A presidential adoption, especially across continents, would be global news.

On Facebook, you call yourself a “self-taught Awo Orunmila” and describe a system where humans are “food farms for spirits,” ranked by “God-like managerial ability” and “empathy scores.” You say spirits harvest food from Earth and spend “three hundred years in the God grid.” That’s not research — that’s your own mythology.

Here, on this forum, you’ve also said you’re not affiliated with any diviners or elders, that you charge ₦20,000 for consultations, and that your spirit owns you. You even compare your “spiritual research” to academic science, while dismissing evidence, peer review, and falsifiability — the very foundations of research.

When all of this is taken together, it’s clear there’s no consistency or external validation anywhere in your claims. The only constant is that you declare your ideas as truth, charge for them, and then redefine “research” whenever questioned.

That isn’t spiritual enlightenment — it’s self-invention.
You’ve said a lot across different platforms, but your own words tell the full story better than anyone else could.

On your LinkedIn, you claim that President George W. Bush adopted you as his son, and that his daughter Barbara “waits for you.” Yet there’s not a single public record, news report, or legal document anywhere to verify that — a presidential adoption would make international headlines.

On Facebook, you call yourself a “self-taught Awo Orunmila” and describe a system where humans are “food farms for spirits,” ranked by “God-like managerial ability” and “empathy scores.” You say spirits harvest food from Earth and spend “three hundred years in the God grid.” That isn’t research — that’s mythology.

Here, you’ve said you’re not affiliated with any diviners or elders, that you charge ₦20,000 for consultations, and that your spirit owns you. You compare this to material science, yet dismiss evidence, peer review, and falsifiability — the cornerstones of what research actually is.

And it’s not hard to verify any of this — you use the same profile image, name, and email across all your accounts. That’s what real research looks like: traceable, verifiable evidence. The only thing consistent in your story is how you keep redefining truth whenever questioned.

That isn’t revelation or science. It’s self-invention wrapped in mysticism.
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Fenrir(m): 4:34pm On Nov 06, 2025
Fella, you really shouldn’t try lying to someone like me.
I’m ex-military — trained to investigate, verify, and see through deception.
And with multiple PhDs that, when combined, are basically qualifications in understanding human behaviour, I can tell the difference between genuine insight and a well-polished story.

This was fun though 😊
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by lawani(op): 4:38pm On Nov 06, 2025
Fenrir:
Fella, you really shouldn’t try lying to someone like me.
I’m ex-military — trained to investigate, verify, and see through deception.
And with multiple PhDs that, when combined, are basically qualifications in understanding human behaviour, I can tell the difference between genuine insight and a well-polished story.

This was fun though 😊
Lying to you? Who do you think you are? And what am I to gain?
If President Bush adopted me it won't be in the headlines if it is top secret. What I gain is protection until the job is done
I said I am a self taught Babalawo with no Oluwo. A self taught person can't be an initiate. I hope you get that?
You have got so many things wrong
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Fenrir(m): 4:52pm On Nov 06, 2025
lawani:
Lying to you? Who do you think you are? And what am I to gain?
If President Bush adopted me it won't be in the headlines if it is top secret. What I gain is protection until the job is done
I said I am a self taught Babalawo with no Oluwo. A self taught person can't be an initiate. I hope you get that?
You have got so many things wrong
You’ve made a lot of claims across multiple platforms. Taken together, they don’t add up. Here are the clear contradictions and unverifiable statements from your words:

Charging vs. “never collected money”

You publicly listed a fee (₦20,000) in your profile for consultancy.

Later you said you’ve “never collected money from anybody for consultancy” and might edit your profile.
→ Either you have been charging clients (as advertised) or you haven’t — both statements cannot be true at once.

“Self-taught Awo/Babalawo” vs. initiation claims

You called yourself a “self-taught Babalawo” and said you “communicate with the spirit world with the 256 signs of Orunmila.”

When challenged you asked “Can you show where I said I was initiated?”
→ Calling oneself a Babalawo normally implies initiation/lineage. Saying both “self-taught” and denying initiation is inconsistent.

“Owned by a spirit” vs. personal agency

You said “I have one spirit that owns me” and that your spirit “has utmost control over you” and can “reactivate incarnations.”

You also post and engage as if you are an autonomous researcher and teacher.
→ If your spirit “owns” you and controls answers, you cannot simultaneously claim independent authorship of research or be the impartial agent running tests.

Research language vs. unfalsifiable method

You call your process “research” and say there are “256 possible answers,” but verification relies exclusively on private divination and spirits.
→ Research, by standard definition, requires methods others can inspect, repeat and potentially falsify. A method that only believers can perform is not independent research — it’s private revelation.

“60 billion spirits” and detailed cosmology (God-grid, 300-year terms, food harvesting)

You present detailed numeric claims and bureaucratic spirit structures (60 billion spirits, God-grid, spirits’ “three hundred year” terms, “food farms”).
→ These are extraordinary, specific claims with no cited sources, odu references, or external documentation. Extraordinary claims require verifiable evidence — none has been provided.

George W. Bush “adoption” claim

On LinkedIn you claimed President George W. Bush “adopted” you and that his daughter “waits for you.”
→ A claim of that magnitude would have public records or media coverage; none exists and it is easily verifiable. Without evidence, this is a highly implausible personal claim.

Profile / platform inconsistency

You use the same profile image, name and contact details across platforms, yet the stories differ drastically between Facebook, LinkedIn and forum posts (fees advertised → later denied; grand political-family claims; spirit bureaucracy).
→ When the same identity posts mutually contradictory claims in multiple public places, credibility collapses unless you provide clear evidence.

“Peer review” redefinition

You equate multiple people doing private divination with peer review.
→ True peer review requires independent methods and standards that can be applied and tested by outsiders. Multiple believers agreeing privately is not the same as independent verification.

What would satisfy reasonable verification? (simple, concrete asks you can post now)

If you want people to take the “research” claim seriously, provide at least one of the following, verifiably:

• A documented transcript / dated recording of a divination session with a named, independent witness who does not share your prior beliefs; or
• An Odu/odu verses citation that explicitly supports a specific, unusual claim you made (with the exact phrasing and traditional source named); or
• One verifiable, public piece of evidence that supports your extraordinary external claim (e.g., any record confirming the Bush adoption claim).

Until you produce verifiable evidence, the only reasonable conclusion from your own words is that these are personal beliefs and narratives, not independently testable research.
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Fenrir(m): 4:57pm On Nov 06, 2025
Fella, you’re really in a world entirely your own — I just hope the rest of us get visitor passes someday.
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Fenrir(m): 5:01pm On Nov 06, 2025
Fella, your imagination deserves a research grant — reality clearly couldn’t keep up.
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Fenrir(m): 5:01pm On Nov 06, 2025
Fella, I truly admire your confidence — most people would need medication to think like that.
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Fenrir(m): 5:01pm On Nov 06, 2025
Fella, I respect your creativity, but at this point you’re writing fiction and calling it revelation.
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Fenrir(m): 5:02pm On Nov 06, 2025
I hope I got this one right

Fella, even your spirit go tire to explain this one. You don enter realm we never register for.
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by AkinwaleJJ(f): 5:05pm On Nov 06, 2025
lawani:
Divination is the only way to seamlessly communicate with your spirit and divination is banned ab initio in Christianity and Islam.
Communication with the spirit realm could be called any name if your own god call it one way and another call it something else the Koko is communicating with the spirit realm which all religionists are doing.

So your lies doesn't add up!
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Fenrir(m): 5:08pm On Nov 06, 2025
AkinwaleJJ:
Communication with the spirit realm could be called any name if your own god call it one way and another call it something else the Koko is communicating with the spirit realm which all religionists are doing.

So your lies doesn't add up!
I don’t even think he’s lying. I think he genuinely believes all this, which makes it a medical issue, not a moral one.
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Truthseeker10: 9:24am On Nov 10, 2025
lawani:
If your spirit drops a thought in your mind that is not divination. Don't you understand what divination means?
So what will God do to those who are not diviners?
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by lawani(op): 12:23pm On Nov 10, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So what will God do to those who are not diviners?
God will not punish you for not learning divination. It is like not learning a new language. You can't be punished for it but you will miss out on some things
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:24pm On Nov 10, 2025
lawani:
God will not punish you for not learning divination. It is like not learning a new language. You can't be punished for it but you will miss out on some things
Miss out on some things yet you are here always calling for mass action against other schools of thought.

Guy abeg stop deceiving yourself!😂
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Truthseeker10: 11:30am On Nov 21, 2025
lawani:
God will not punish you for not learning divination. It is like not learning a new language. You can't be punished for it but you will miss out on some things
What are the things that I would miss?
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by lawani(op): 11:40am On Nov 21, 2025
Truthseeker10:
What are the things that I would miss?
For example, let us say someone poisoned your food. Your spirit will definitely alert you if you know divination
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by lawani(op): 11:41am On Nov 21, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Miss out on some things yet you are here always calling for mass action against other schools of thought.

Guy abeg stop deceiving yourself!😂
I am only trying to do my bit about making the world better. I am not calling for mass action but government action.
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Truthseeker10: 11:46am On Nov 21, 2025
lawani:
For example, let us say someone poisoned your food. Your spirit will definitely alert you if you know divination
So what happens to a person who dies from food poison without knowing divination?
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:47am On Nov 21, 2025
lawani:
I am only trying to do my bit about making the world better. I am not calling for mass action but government action.
The same government that depends on religions to gather supporters shey?

Ọmọ you need to stop dreaming because there can never be followers or supporters of government without religion!🙂
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by lawani(op): 11:48am On Nov 21, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So what happens to a person who dies from food poison without knowing divination?
According to my research using ifa, a murdered victim will reincarnate in the murderer"s Earth family within three days.
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Truthseeker10: 11:50am On Nov 21, 2025
lawani:
According to my research using ifa, a murdered victim will reincarnate in the murderer"s Earth family within three days.
What is he reincarnating to do?
2)What happens to a diviner if he is killed?
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by lawani(op): 11:52am On Nov 21, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The same government that depends on religions to gather supporters shey?

Ọmọ you need to stop dreaming because there can never be followers or supporters of government without religion!🙂
It has happened in several countries though and religion is a new thing. It started two thousand years ago with Christianity. You can't say there will be no government without religion. Before Christianity, spirituality was approached in an academic way. They all used divination which can be learnt by anybody and they believed in reincarnation etc. They had no holy books that must be believed at all cost.
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by lawani(op): 11:55am On Nov 21, 2025
Truthseeker10:
What is he reincarnating to do?
2)What happens to a diviner if he is killed?
The person will reincarnate and continue living again. Anybody killed including diviners will be reincarnated in the family of their killer within three days except they are a fully matured spirit. A fully matured spirit will be excused.
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by Truthseeker10: 12:01pm On Nov 21, 2025
lawani:
The person will reincarnate and continue living again. Anybody killed including diviners will be reincarnated in the family of their killer within three days except they are a fully matured spirit. A fully matured spirit will be excused.
What is the purpose of living again, to do what?

A fully matured spirit will be excused to where?
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:07pm On Nov 21, 2025
What system of government were they practicing then? cheesy

Have you forgotten that DEMOCRACY is what the world is championing today?

Without religion (something that will make people gather) politicians can't get followers that's the only place they can get supporters unlike that time when rulers don't need anyone to vote them in or vote their opponents out of power! smiley

lawani:
It has happened in several countries though and religion is a new thing. It started two thousand years ago with Christianity. You can't say there will be no government without religion. Before Christianity, spirituality was approached in an academic way. They all used divination which can be learnt by anybody and they believed in reincarnation etc. They had no holy books that must be believed at all cost.
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by lawani(op): 12:31pm On Nov 21, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
What system of government were they practicing then? cheesy

Have you forgotten that DEMOCRACY is what the world is championing today?

Without religion (something that will make people gather) politicians can't get followers that's the only place they can get supporters unlike that time when rulers don't need anyone to vote them in or vote their opponents out of power! smiley
People gather for many reasons, including but not limited to politics, sports, concert and etc. Religion is not what makes politics or government possible
In democracy, you campaign and take part in elections. However I am not an advocate of banning spirituality whose priests work like artisans and who teach by apprenticeship.
We however don't need religion for anything
Re: The Fight Against Terrorism by lawani(op): 12:37pm On Nov 21, 2025
Truthseeker10:
What is the purpose of living again, to do what?

A fully matured spirit will be excused to where?
A matured spirit will be excused to go and incarnate in its own family. Are you asking the reason for incarnation?
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