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Ogbono is not Igbo soup. It is Yoruba soup and it is called ọbẹ̀ àpọ̀n in Yoruba.

The seed of a wild mango is what they use to make àpọ̀n soup. Wild mango is called òro in Yoruba language. In Ibadan panegyrics, they praise Ibadan people as ọmọ a j'òro sùn. Ibadan wasn't established yesterday just so you know. So if Ibadan people have always been praised as ọmọ a j'òro sùn, and òro's seed is what is used to cook àpọ̀n (ogbono) soup, how then is ogbono an Igbo soup?

Let us be getting facts right

Igbo origin is from Edo linage, and edomite grandson of oduduwa, Omo oranmiyan!!
Just look at Ondo people?? Dey look like Igbo!

Kewtt:
Let us be getting facts right

Who is dragging with you for anything, we dash you, everything is yours even spaghetti and pizza are Yoruba foods, no bad feeling since it has already degenerated to dragging foods

Kewtt:
Ogbono is not Igbo soup. It is Yoruba soup and it is called ọbẹ̀ àpọ̀n in Yoruba.

The seed of a wild mango is what they use to make àpọ̀n soup. Wild mango is called òro in Yoruba language. In Ibadan panegyrics, they praise Ibadan people as ọmọ a j'òro sùn. Ibadan wasn't established yesterday just so you know. So if Ibadan people have always been praised as ọmọ a j'òro sùn, and òro's seed is what is used to cook àpọ̀n (ogbono) soup, how then is ogbono an Igbo soup?

You are right, even oha and ofe olugbu too is Yorubas, are you fine now?

Kewtt:
Ogbono is not Igbo soup. It is Yoruba soup and it is called ọbẹ̀ àpọ̀n in Yoruba.

The seed of a wild mango is what they use to make àpọ̀n soup. Wild mango is called òro in Yoruba language. In Ibadan panegyrics, they praise Ibadan people as ọmọ a j'òro sùn. Ibadan wasn't established yesterday just so you know. So if Ibadan people have always been praised as ọmọ a j'òro sùn, and òro's seed is what is used to cook àpọ̀n (ogbono) soup, how then is ogbono an Igbo soup?

Your parents spent lots of money for your education,only for you to come out and drag ogbono soup!!

Kewtt:
Ogbono is not Igbo soup. It is Yoruba soup and it is called ọbẹ̀ àpọ̀n in Yoruba.

The seed of a wild mango is what they use to make àpọ̀n soup. Wild mango is called òro in Yoruba language. In Ibadan panegyrics, they praise Ibadan people as ọmọ a j'òro sùn. Ibadan wasn't established yesterday just so you know. So if Ibadan people have always been praised as ọmọ a j'òro sùn, and òro's seed is what is used to cook àpọ̀n (ogbono) soup, how then is ogbono an Igbo soup?

So Praising a Tree makes it Yours?
So where I am from,idemili we revere the ball python,that means no other sides has ball python except us?

This is a very useless Take

I accept, even the south east belongs to the Yoruba, now you can go an sleep.

But igbo cook it best sha.

Yoruba speciality is in preparing rice though. Maybe.

Read SL Akintola's memoirs and you will find proof that Igbos descend from Yoruba ancestry

Freestainworld:
I accept, even the south east belongs to the Yoruba, now you can go an sleep.

Kewtt:
Ogbono is not Igbo soup. It is Yoruba soup and it is called ọbẹ̀ àpọ̀n in Yoruba.

The seed of a wild mango is what they use to make àpọ̀n soup. Wild mango is called òro in Yoruba language. In Ibadan panegyrics, they praise Ibadan people as ọmọ a j'òro sùn. Ibadan wasn't established yesterday just so you know. So if Ibadan people have always been praised as ọmọ a j'òro sùn, and òro's seed is what is used to cook àpọ̀n (ogbono) soup, how then is ogbono an Igbo soup?

NO doubt, "Apon" or "Obe Apon" made from the wild mango seeds has been eaten for several centuries among the Yoruba folks. This doesn't mean that contiguous ethnic groups to the Yorubas such as the Igalas, Nupes, Ebiras, Edos, Fon, etc, never heard of or ate their own versions of "Obe Apon" (Apon soup) and called it their indigenous names. The Fluted Pumpkin leaves which grows nearly worldwide for centuries, has been eaten for centuries in Yorubaland and is known as "Ewe Woroko or Eweroko," the Ibibios have their own name for it, the Hausas call it "Yakuwa" and the Ibos call it Ugu. Etymologically, the pure Yoruba word Egusi (Egunsi) is a borrowed word (or LOAN WORD) called "Egwusi" by the Ibos as confirmed by the "Longman Ibo-English Dictionary" co-written by an Ibo scholar named Echeruo and a European scholar decades ago. The Longman Ibo-English Dictionary entry under "egwusi" CLEARLY states that it is a LOAN WORD got from YOR (Yoruba) contrary to the online disinformation by uninformed younger Ibo posters on that NL thread and online which was resoundingly debunked by the Yoruba folks with screenshot evidence from the Longman Ibo-English Dictionary. However, it's a historical FACT that there is an cultural overlap with some ethnicities borrowing words (loan words), dressing, cuisines and cooking styles from one another before and after British Colonial rule in Nigeria. The Igala language is a Yoruboid language (just like Itsekiri) with 65% being mutually intelligible meaning that 65% of words in Igala are of core Yoruba origin (because of the presence of Yoruba bloodlines in the larger Igala due to a fusion of migrants from the Wukari a few centuries ago with a significant number of Yoruba and Edo people around the Idah area as told by the late Igala king, Attah Michael Ameh Oboni in a Punch newspaper in a 2017). Igala is infact made up of a fusion of different ethnicities and people WITHIN the last 600 years. Even some Hausas and Nupe settled in the midst of the Igalas on the invitation of one of the Attahs of Igala because of their craftsmanship and have become Igalanised.

Yoruba-derived words in Igala are EWA spelled as "Egwa" in Igala, Egungun spelled as "Egwugwu" in Igala, Ogun for medicine is "Ogwu" in Igala, Ogun for war AJAGUN warrior is "Ajagwu" in Igala, Osu for month is spelled "Ochu" in Igala, Omi is "Omi" in Igala, Ogede in Yoruba is ALSO Ogede in Igala, Ifa in Yoruba is Ifa in Igala, Iba for fever is the same in Igala, Omo or Oma in Yoruba is spelled as Oma in Igala and even in Itsekiri, "Mo fe jeun" or "I want to eat" is pronounced exactly the same way in Igala. This is definitely how a few of these Yoruba words in Igala language found their way as loan words into Central Ibo lexicon via the Anambra/Northern Enugu/Delta North interactions of the Igala Kingdom and Igala trading and hunting communities with ONLY those areas and NOT the whole of Southern Ibo area which had NO direct contact with the Igala ethnic people who ALSO introduced the Red Chieftaincy cap into the Nsukka area from their Idah homeland. Even the name of the Igala political and cultural capital, Idah is the shortened form of a Yoruba-derived name known in full as "Ona Ida" meaning the "road is blocked" (by the river Niger) emphasizing the migrations experience of the early founders of the Igala political and cultural capital, Idah. "Ona" means road. I got all these information over several decades of reading the ADVANCED books on Nigerian history and Igala sources. I watched just 2 weeks ago the video of a young Yoruba lady and an Igala lady analysing the similarities in spoken Yoruba and Igala which shows that both groups are ancestrally cousins sharing the same Kogi State borderland bridge with one another.

I once asked a brilliant Ebira guy in the presence of an Igala man several years ago in Lagos if they understood each other's languages and the Ebira guy said NO, but the Igala guy told me that he too couldn't understand the Ebira language (despite both being from the same Kogi State). However, he told me he could understand the Yoruba language because of the shared similarities and that just blew me away with the many Yoruba words he listed in the Igala language which further buttressed the FACT that Yoruba ancestral bloodlines fused into the larger Igala as told by the Attah. However, it would be WRONG to say that Igalas are Yorubas since some other ethnicities make up Igala. Igalas are a recognized ethnicity though the language they speak is Yoruboid hence making both cousins or relatives.

The rest of Igala language is largely of Idoma origin (Idomoid). In any event, indigenous Igalas (and their descendants) exist in Anambra, Northern Enugu, and in Igala-associated communities of Delta North (Ebu, Okpanam, Asaba, Illah Asaba) in Delta State.
So you have a continuum of cultural interactions within the last 500 years among the different ethnicities and groups that make up Nigeria today.

Kewtt:
Read SL Akintola's memoirs and you will find proof that Igbos descend from Yoruba ancestry

NO. Ibos did NOT descend from Yoruba ancestry. The term Ibo is an institutionalised British Colonial creation and Xtian missionary which gained popularity after 1900. The people who are collectively called Ibos did NOT even have a common ancestry but called themselves by distinct names of Owere, Oka, Mbaise, Ngwa, the Aros were a fusion of ethnicities with Ibibio being part of them hence the name Aro confederacy featuring Ohafia and other satellites. The Southern Ibo areas especially do NOT subscribe to Nri as being their original ancestral source which some folks from Anambra try to push on the rest of them and there are different stories about their origins.

For more CLARITY go to YouTube and watch the recent videos of Busuyi Oris on this topic (Busuyi is a well-spoken, historically knowledgeable and brilliant indigene of Ile Ife) where he condemned with evidence some uninformed revisionists from among the Ibos who were spreading massive disinformation online that the Ugbos are from them which is totally FALSE with the Olugbo of Ugbo Kingdom Oba Obateru's Palace warning these uninformed to stop and insisted that the Ugbos are Yorubas. The Ibos did NOT descend from Yoruba neither do they have anything to do with Ile Ife (or Ufe). The Igbos are the ILAJES of the oil and gas-rich Ilaje LGA of Ondo State sharing direct boundaries with the Atlantic Ocean and they were the aboriginal people in Ife before the arrival of Oduduwa from his "Oke Ora" homeland in Yorubaland just 8 miles away in the same Osun State. This is why every Ooni of Ife goes to Oke Ora as part of the coronation ceremony. The Ugbos (Ilaje people) still have their ancestral compounds in Ife till date after the FIRST EVER arrival of Oduduwa from his Oke Ora homeland over 900 years ago so.

muyico:
Igbo origin is from Edo linage, and edomite grandson of oduduwa, Omo oranmiyan!!
Just look at Ondo people?? Dey look like Igbo!

The Esan people are very popular with ogbono (or-ea) seed

AlphaTaikun:
NO. Ibos did NOT descend from Yoruba ancestry. The term Ibo is an institutionalised British Colonial creation and Xtian missionary which gained popularity after 1900. The people who are collectively called Ibos did NOT even have a common ancestry but called themselves by distinct names of Owere, Oka, Mbaise, Ngwa, the Aros were a fusion of ethnicities with Ibibio being part of them hence the name Aro confederacy featuring Ohafia and other satellites. The Southern Ibo areas especially do NOT subscribe to Nri as being their original ancestral source which some folks from Anambra try to push on the rest of them and there are different stories about their origins.

For more CLARITY go to YouTube and watch the recent videos of Busuyi Oris on this topic (Busuyi is a well-spoken, historically knowledgeable and brilliant indigene of Ile Ife) where he condemned with evidence some uninformed revisionists from among the Ibos who were spreading massive disinformation online that the Ugbos are from them which is totally FALSE with the Olugbo of Ugbo Kingdom Oba Obateru's Palace warning these uninformed to stop and insisted that the Ugbos are Yorubas. The Ibos did NOT descend from Yoruba neither do they have anything to do with Ile Ife (or Ufe). The Igbos are the ILAJES of the oil and gas-rich Ilaje LGA of Ondo State sharing direct boundaries with the Atlantic Ocean and they were the aboriginal people in Ife before the arrival of Oduduwa from his "Oke Ora" homeland in Yorubaland just 8 miles away in the same Osun State. This is why every Ooni of Ife goes to Oke Ora as part of the coronation ceremony. The Ugbos (Ilaje people) still have their ancestral compounds in Ife till date after the FIRST EVER arrival of Oduduwa from his Oke Ora homeland over 900 years ago so.

Just look at you all over the thread conjuring and dishing out half-truths with pride. You're only deceiving yourself and the people who risked paying your tuition.

[quote author=Resident.Snitch post=137596402]Just look at you all over the thread conjuring and dishing out half-truths with pride. You're only deceiving yourself and the people who risked paying your tuition.[/quote]You're obviously a troll, ill-educated and sound totally IRRESPONSIBLE for making that thoughless post trying to counter well-known, advanced history from the archives. NOW get off my mention youngster! I will have to block you as well.