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Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

MikeofKd:
Well For the Christian religious folks it either heaven or hell , for others I don't know.
Everyone has a belief system subconsciously governing them, for the Christians the fear of hell frightens them to behave morally upright.
But there's no prove that heaven or hell exists , because if the body dies , then the spirit departs from the body , making the body an empty vessel. A spirit outside a body flows up air, it doesn't follow the laws of gravity , a spirit is similar to air precisely , it cannot hold it cannot feel , it cannot touch like a active human body can , so if hell was real how then do you explain fire burning a spirit , since the body is left back on earth , it doesn't make any sense.


In the other the concept of wether heaven or hell is real is purely theoretical , there's also no prove that heaven exists , some brainwashed Christian folks would say heaven is in the sky or above the earth , that's gibberish, backed up with no scientific accuracy or data.

But to answer your question , I don't think anyone fully understands the concept of death but I do to an extent , you see death just like time is an illusion, it's not real , there are traditional ways you can communicate with the dead which leaves you with only more curiosity that if death was actually real why then can we communicate with the dead.

Death is like a trance , leaving one experience ( physical ) to another experience ( spiritual )
I for one think when one dies , there's a switch between 2 worlds which are the ( physical and spiritual world)

so when one dies , he/she goes into the spirits world , now the spirits world is complex unlike the physical world , no one can describe what the spirit world looks like , even people that have died and came back , they didn't enter into the spirit world , you can't return once Ur in the spirit world.
Whatever happens in the spirit world stays in the spirit world but then there's reincarnation so can come back to earth as a human , animal or any living thing. The circle continues until God get bored and pulls the plug I guess.

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

Alusiizizi:
No satisfactory explanation of consciousness has yet been presented, indeed, the very definition of the word is hazy at best. Personally, I prefer Dr. Roger Penroses attempt at its description. For those who don't know, Dr. Penrose is a notable theoretical Physics and a Nobel laureate(2023 prize for his theory of trapped surfaces beyond the event horizon of a black hole, thus proving that, given the current understanding of General Relativity, a singularity must form at its center). Basically, his thesis centers around the theory of computation and the Godel incompleteness theorem, which basically asserts that all mathematical systems contains axioms that cannot be proven from within aforementioned mathematical system. What this essentially implies for computation machines, whether we are talking hard code software or even the most advanced A.I, is that the product of any computing machine must directly be correlated to an input, i.e. computing machines cannot create information that was not already fed into it.

Which brings us to the problem of humans. It is a matter of fact that humans routinely create new information, and this is where Penroses theses come to play: Human minds do not obey the Godel incompleteness theorem because the source of human consciousness is not a classical system but a quantum mechanical one, in other words, human minds are actually quantum computers and not classical computers.

Now, what does all this have to do with the final destination of human consciousness? Well, we know that something called "entanglement" is the very center of all quantum processes, which means that human minds, and therefore consciousness, is entangled with the rest of the universe, so perhaps, when a human dies, his body might die but his consciousness could very well linger on.

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

josielewa:
THE TRUTH IS NO ONE KNOWS WHERE THEY ARE GOING AFTER DEATH. ALL LIVING ORGANISM ARE JUST AN EMBODIMENT OF ENERGY. WHERE WERE YOU BEFORE YOU WERE BIRTHED? YOU DONT KNOW, LIKEWISEYOU NOT KNOWING WHERE YOU WILL GO WHEN YOU DIE. CREATOR HAS PUT CREATION INTO AN EVERLASTING LOOP CALLED REPRODUCTION. PEOPEL KEEPDYING AND PEOPLE KEEP GIVING BIRTH ON A DAILY.

WHAT BIRTHED YOU OR CREATED YOU IS THE MIXTURE OF CODE AND ENERGY. YOUR PARENTS EXCHANGED FLUIDS AND MADE YOU, SAME WAY ANIMALS EXCHANGE FLUIDS AND BIRTH THEIR OFFSPRING. WE ARE ALL ENERGY WALKING, TALKING AND DOING GREAT THINGS. WHEN YOU DIE, YOU ENERGY IS TAKEN BACK INTO THE EARTH AND YOUR PHYSICAL AWARENESS ( THIS WORLD) IS GONE. YOU BECOME MANURE, AND YOUR ENERGY FLOWS BACK INTO THE EARTH. WE ARE BEING RECYCLED. YOUR DEAD BODY IS GIVING TO THE EARTH AS DUST, SAND, MANURE ETC, PLANTS GET ENERGY FROM YOUR DEAD AND ROTTEN BODY, HAVE YOU TRIED LEAVING A DEAD BODY IN FIELD, WHAT HAPPENS, IT ROTS AND THE ENERGY IS TAKEN BY THE EARTH AND TRANSFORMED INTO ANOTHER TYPE OF ENERGY, MAYBE NEW PLANT, MUCOUS, FUNGUS ETC..

THE QUSETION ABOUT WHERE WE GO IS ANSWERED IN THIS WRITE UP, WE ARE GOING NO WHERE, WE ONLY TRANSFORM ENERGY THROUGH THE POWER OF THE EARTH(SOIL), WE ARE ALWAYS HERE 100% OF THE TIME. DO YOU IF YOU HAVE EATEN THE ENERGY FROM ANOTHER ANIMAL OR HUMAN, THE PLANT , ANIMALS AND HUMANS ALL GET AND GIVE ENERGY TO ONE ANOTHER.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE SPIRITUAL OR RELIGIOUS ANGLE, I WILL SAY THAT DEPENDS ON YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM. BUT AS FAR AS AM CONCERNED, IF HUMANS DIE, THEY GO NOWHERE, THEY ARE STILL A PART OF THE UNIVERSE..

WHAT MADE YOU ASK THIS QUESTION IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HIGHER CONSCIOUSNESS TO QUESTION THINGS, TAKE THAT AWAY AND YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN THE ANIMALS I THE FIELD, YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS WHAT IS BEGGING THIS QUESTION. WE ALL DONT ACTUALLY DIE, WE JUST ADD TO WHATS INTHE UNIVERSE, WE ARE GOING NOWHERE....

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

KingAzubuike:
There is a parallel universe out there. Because energy cannot be destroyed, life continues in the parallel universe. The kind of life you will continue there depends on the choices you made prior to your death in this dimension.

For example, if you are young and died from a car crash on earth, in a parallel universe you would have remained indoors instead of going out that day. Meaning you would not be involved in a car crash.

If you died from old age on earth, in a parallel universe, you'd roll back the years albeit, certain decisions you made on this dimension would be different from the choices and decisions you made in that parallel universe. For example, I a parallel universe, you would have married a different woman.
Abacha would bot have died and would have still been ruling nigeria.
Or Nigeria would have still been under the British colony.
We might even still be in 1920 instead of 2025
Flying cars might be existing in a parallel universe.
Your mother might have married a different person and hence the way you look in this dimension might be different from the way you would have looked in another.

Alusiizizi:
No satisfactory explanation of consciousness has yet been presented, indeed, the very definition of the word is hazy at best. Personally, I prefer Dr. Roger Penroses attempt at its description. For those who don't know, Dr. Penrose is a notable theoretical Physics and a Nobel laureate(2023 prize for his theory of trapped surfaces beyond the event horizon of a black hole, thus proving that, given the current understanding of General Relativity, a singularity must form at its center). Basically, his thesis centers around the theory of computation and the Godel incompleteness theorem, which basically asserts that all mathematical systems contains axioms that cannot be proven from within aforementioned mathematical system. What this essentially implies for computation machines, whether we are talking hard code software or even the most advanced A.I, is that the product of any computing machine must directly be correlated to an input, i.e. computing machines cannot create information that was not already fed into it.

Which brings us to the problem of humans. It is a matter of fact that humans routinely create new information, and this is where Penroses theses come to play: Human minds do not obey the Godel incompleteness theorem because the source of human consciousness is not a classical system but a quantum mechanical one, in other words, human minds are actually quantum computers and not classical computers.

Now, what does all this have to do with the final destination of human consciousness? Well, we know that something called "entanglement" is the very center of all quantum processes, which means that human minds, and therefore consciousness, is entangled with the rest of the universe, so perhaps, when a human dies, his body might die but his consciousness could very well linger on.

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

Sirchiboy:
When people die. Where do they go. I want to know.

Dtruthspeaker:
If truly you went to school, then you would have known that answering questions is part of education.

But rather you have kept on running from answering the questions because you real eyes that it makes you look Stu....

So, if you think you are intelligent and educated do inlighten us and answer the questions

As a human being are you not conscious and have no consciousness ?

And do you have a mind? Is your mind conscious?

Cum4me:
explain further about consciencness and why my ancestors consciousness not in existence after they've gone